YAFAP: Ralysse the Chaotic Elven Mage, or, Why does this game seem easier?
syull...@gmail.com
a half, give or take. I think what surprised me most was how easy
everything was once I had all my equipment picked out. The Eye of
Awesome is almost broken (I never ran out of PW again until Astral),
and conflict definitely -is-. It makes any level where the enemies
come in hordes a cake walk, and I hadn't noticed because I hadn't
gotten to any really crowded levels before.
I started by leaving my kitten behind, since it didn't seem interested
in being useful, and heading into the mines in search of AC and food.
My secondary spell was create monster, so I was all set for altar
camping. I found a wand of wishing, got myself 2 blessed scrolls of
charging, +2 SDSM, and +2 fireproof speed boots. In Minetown I tried
to sac for Magicbane, but Anhur must not have been paying attention,
'cuz I didn't get jack for ages. I offed the watch and the shopkeepers
(minus Izchak - I didn't even steal his stuff), bought protection, and
lost my spare wishes when a hill giant broke my glass WoW with his
WoStriking. As a side note, I think the game would be improved if
shopkeepers were significantly tougher - trying to outwit them is fun
up until you know what works and what doesn't, but you can kill them
almost at will if you have magic missile and reflection (and with only
a little difficulty if you instead have magic resistance), which makes
the whole thing kind of pointless. Anyway, after that I remembered to
use containers. Sokoban had an amulet of reflection (I swear it must
be guaranteed if you've already found a source of reflection), but I
found a bag of holding soon anyway, and managed to never blow it up.
I wanted Magicbane before the Quest, so I went around converting
altars in the main dungeon and sacfesting. At some point I ended up
with another WoW, a magic lamp, and a water demon wish, which together
got me a helm of brilliance, gauntlets of dexterity, a t-shirt, the
Master Key of Thievery (which was actually after the quest; but
whatever), a amulet of life saving (I later found more), and an amulet
of magical breathing. The Amulets spoiler led me to believe I could
eat it to become unbreathing, but it must not have worked because I
wasn't unbreathing when I ascended. The Quest was easy, and with Eye
and Bell in hand I descended to the castle, stoning Medusa with my
reflection on the way.
I didn't want to deal with the drawbridge, so I smashed it from afar
and flew around back (as a master mind flayer, wearing water walking
boots in case I changed back). I wore conflict and threw around MM,
and in retrospect I think this is the other wand I was thinking of
when I wrote the paragraph above. I went down to the Valley, decided
to beef up, and used the Eye's oh-so-handy levelport to set up a stash
in Sokoban, where there are fewer interruptions. I enchanted up my
armor, made holy water, and prepared scrolls of gold detection (and
cursed scrolls of confuse monster, because at the time I didn't have
any forgotten spells to confuse myself with and wanted to make sure I
could get confused on the Planes). I sacced a little more in hopes of
getting Stormy, but Anhur was screwing around and I gave up - I was
wielding Magicbane all the way to the High Altar. I did a little
nurse dancing to raise my HP, too.
By the time I killed Vlad (who is almost pointlessly easy - why not
make him more formidable?) I was nearly untouchable, but I genocided
some stuff just to be safe - L because summons are annoying (although
with conflict and -37AC (-47 in my preferred master mind flayer form)
they were hardly much to worry about), c because I'm prone to stupid
footrice related instadeaths, and ; because I wasn't confident that I
actually had unbreathing like the amulet spoiler said I did, which
turned out to be a good thing. I experimented with mounts, but I kept
killing them with reflected magic missiles so I decided to remain
petless. The Wizard was no trouble. He always went down in a single
death ray - no fuss, no mess, and I never lost a single artifact.
When I actually got the Amulet of Yendor from the High Priest of
Moloch, I stopped for a minute just to enjoy it. I dropped it so I
could read its flavor text, and then remembered I should #name it so
that I could find it easily if Rodey got his grubby mitts on it. I
named it Dave, and Dave and I went up through Gehennom. As I was
chaotic, the mysterious force was no problem (which I don't understand
- the Amulet and Moloch are unaligned. Why would they affect different
alignments differently?). I made liberal use of teleport, and made up
for the nutrition loss by consuming the occasional brain. Meeting no
resistance, I proceeded to the first floor of the Dungeons of Doom,
where I quaffed a cursed potion of gain level to ensure that Dave was
still, you know, Dave. Rodney came to wish me luck on Earth, and I
gave him my best wishes as well, in the form of a sweet little beam of
negative energy. I took the spellbook of digging, got confused, trap-
detected with gold detection, and headed off for the portal. Air was a
bit tight, and the elementals actually managed to knock me out of my
mind flayer form. I don't think any spoilers actually mention it, but
being a flying monster is just as good as having levitation for moving
about on Air (I took off my ring for a few moments to check). I
decided to just 'port all the elementals away and run for the portal
to Fire, which worked. I was low on PW from Dave's parasitic
tendencies so I couldn't poly back into a master mind flayer, but it
hardly mattered. I just floated past some balrogs over to the portal
and headed to Water. Water was even easier; I just levitated over to
the portal's bubble and jumped in.
Astral took me by surprise. The enemies had more HP than I was used
to, but couldn't hit worth crap. With -37AC, half spell and half
physical damage, the most HP I lost on Astral came from getting
blasted by the Master Key of Thievery when I used it to pick the locks
on the doors. Anhur tried to be useful by sending me a guardian angel,
but he was unexpectedly weak so I just ignored him. I replaced my ring
of polycontrol with conflict, my ring of levitation with free action,
and tried the right door. Death came for me, and fell to two magic
missiles. I didn't realize his touch of death was so pointless; 2hp
per hit, with a chance of doing nothing? The right altar was Thoth's,
so I went to the center. It was Ptah's, and Famine was guarding it. He
never touched me; my wand of death did nicely for him. I think the
Tourist had Firebrand and I considered killing him for it to get more
points, but he had a ton of HP and I eventually just walked away to
the left altar. On my way in I death-rayed a lot of priests, and
Pestilence, and I think I killed Death some more. I got to the Altar,
savored my victory for a moment, and offered.
I then realized I couldn't cut and paste the entire window anymore on
the Windows terminal, so I took a screenshot instead. These are the
final stats.
You offer the Amulet of Yendor to Anhur... //I was really hoping it
would say "You offer Dave to Anhur...//
An invisible choir sings, and you are bathed in radiance... //What?
Anhur the Great and Chaotic Lazy Bum has invisible choirs and
radiance? That seems more like a Lawful shtick.//
The Voice of Anhur thunders: "Congratulations, mortal!"
"In return for thy service, I grant thee the gift of immortality!"
You ascend to the status of Demigoddess... //At one point I became male
through a polyself accident, and had to polypile for an amulet of
change. It didn't seem right to become a Demigod when I'd started out
female.//
Ralysse the Mage St:18 Dx:22 Co:16 In:25 Wi:25 Ch:8 Chaotic
Astral Plane $47 HP:278(278) Pw:76(397) AC:-37 Exp:30 T:55649
DYWYPI?:(y)
Amulets
o - an uncursed amulet of life saving (being worn)
W - the uncursed Eye of the Aethiopica
Weapons
m - the rustproof +2 Magicbane (weapon in hand)
Armor
b - a blessed fireproof +4 cloak of magic resistance (being worn)
q - a blessed rustproof +5 helm of brilliance (being worn)
B - a blessed fireproof +5 T-shirt (being worn)
O - a blessed +5 silver dragon scale mail (being worn)
P - a blessed fireproof +4 pair of speed boots (being worn)
T - a blessed fireproof +5 pair of gauntlets of dexterity (being
worn)
Comestibles
Y - an uncursed K-ration
Scrolls
I - a cursed scroll of teleportation
Spellbooks
e - the blessed Book of the Dead
Rings
f - an uncursed ring of levitation
k - an uncursed ring of free action (on right hand)
u - an uncursed ring of polymorph control
w - an uncursed ring of conflict
Wands
g - a wand of death (0:0)
r - a wand of death (0:3)
t - a wand of fire (0:7)
A - a wand of death (0:5)
C - a wand of teleportation (0:2)
H - a wand of death (0:5)
J - a wand of teleportation (0:5)
N - a wand of digging (0:7)
S - a rusty wand of teleportation (0:4)
U - a wand of teleportation (0:0)
Tools
d - a blessed +0 unicorn horn
h - an uncursed stethoscope
j - an uncursed magic whistle
v - the blessed Candelabrum of Invocation (7 candles attached)
G - a magic marker (0:64)
K - a blessed bag of holding
X - the blessed Bell of Opening (0:1)
Z - the uncursed Master Key of Thievery
Gems
Q - a blessed luckstone
V - an uncursed jet stone
Contents of the bag of holding:
a wand of death (0:0)
an uncursed spellbook of fireball
a blessed potion of full healing
an uncursed potion of object detection
an uncursed amulet of ESP
a cursed amulet of restful sleep
3 potions of holy water
an uncursed scroll of scare monster
5 uncursed scrolls of blank paper
a wand of digging (0:0)
a blessed potion of full healing
a wand of fire (0:4)
an uncursed amulet of life saving
3 uncursed amber stones
a cursed amulet of strangulation
an uncursed potion of extra healing
a frost horn (0:4)
a wand of fire (0:6)
a wand of digging (0:0)
a wand of cold (0:1)
a wand of digging (0:0)
an uncursed spellbook of identify
an uncursed amulet of reflection
a wand of probing (0:5)
an uncursed diamond
a wand of magic missile (0:8)
a wand of create monster (0:15)
an uncursed chrysoberyl stone
an uncursed luckstone
a blessed wand of sleep (0:5)
a wand of lightning (0:8)
a rusty wand of teleportation (0:3)
a wand of speed monster (0:5)
an uncursed spellbook of magic missile
an uncursed spellbook of polymorph
an uncursed spellbook of jumping
a wand of slow monster (0:4)
a cursed potion of extra healing
2 uncursed emeralds
an uncursed topaz stone
a wand of fire (0:7)
a wand of digging (0:5)
a wand of digging (0:6)
a wand of slow monster (0:8)
a wand of fire (0:5)
a wand of digging (0:6)
a wand of sleep (0:8)
a wand of digging (0:8)
a wand of magic missile (0:7)
5 uncursed citrine stones
4 uncursed turquoise stones
a wand of create monster (0:14)
an uncursed amulet of reflection
a cursed amulet of strangulation
an uncursed fluorite stone
an uncursed amulet of reflection
an uncursed dilithium crystal
a wand of create monster (0:10)
a wand of create monster (0:11)
an uncursed amulet of strangulation
an uncursed amulet of life saving
an uncursed spellbook of invisibility
an uncursed jade stone
an uncursed turquoise stone
an uncursed chrysoberyl stone
an uncursed opal
an uncursed spellbook of haste self
an uncursed amulet of life saving
4 cursed scrolls of confuse monster
a magic marker (0:0)
3 uncursed rubies
2 uncursed jasper stones
2 uncursed diamonds
6 uncursed emeralds
2 uncursed garnet stones
an uncursed jet stone
an uncursed citrine stone
5 uncursed agate stones
an uncursed amulet of reflection
58893 gold pieces
a +0 unicorn horn
the +0 Demonbane
3 uncursed jet stones
2 uncursed dilithium crystals
2 uncursed rubies
8 uncursed jasper stones
a wand of magic missile (0:5)
a wand of digging (0:3)
5 uncursed topaz stones
5 uncursed amethyst stones
5 uncursed garnet stones
4 uncursed obsidian stones
a thoroughly rusty corroded +0 pick-axe
a wand of sleep (0:6)
a wand of lightning (0:8)
a wand of digging (0:3)
a wand of sleep (0:5)
a wand of sleep (0:2)
a +0 unicorn horn
an uncursed scroll of genocide
Final Attributes:
You were the Glory of Arioch.
You were piously aligned.
You were fire resistant.
You were cold resistant.
You were sleep resistant.
You were disintegration-resistant.
You were shock resistant.
You were poison resistant.
You were magic-protected.
You saw invisible.
You were telepathic.
You were warned.
You had infravision.
You were invisible to others.
You could teleport.
You had teleport control.
You were protected.
You were very fast.
You had reflection.
You had free action.
Your life would have been saved.
You were extremely lucky.
You had extra luck.
Good luck did not time out for you.
You survived.
Vanquished creatures:
Asmodeus
Baalzebub
Orcus
Juiblex
The Wizard of Yendor (8 times)
Death (thrice)
Pestilence
Famine (twice)
2 high priests
4 mastodons
Medusa
8 krakens
5 iron golems
a master lich
5 storm giants
6 glass golems
4 balrogs
4 purple worms
2 gray dragons
5 red dragons
2 white dragons
6 black dragons
5 blue dragons
3 green dragons
a yellow dragon
17 minotaurs
4 jabberwocks
The Dark One
11 baluchitheria
15 Angels
a demilich
Vlad the Impaler
7 stone golems
a master mind flayer
6 Olog-hai
5 Nazguls
5 pit fiends
2 sandestins
4 hell hounds
11 titanotheres
10 trappers
a baby red dragon
a baby white dragon
a baby green dragon
2 guardian nagas
8 disenchanters
30 vampire lords
5 skeletons
4 shopkeepers
The Oracle
31 aligned priests //why are priests of Moloch aligned with respect to
corpse generation and this count? Shouldn't they be -unligned-
priests?//
5 captains
6 shades
3 liches
4 clay golems
9 nurses
5 ice devils
5 nalfeshnees
8 lurkers above
an Aleax
a frost giant
10 ettins
6 golden nagas
3 black puddings
31 vampires
9 lieutenants
a watch captain
39 ghosts
2 queen bees
8 winged gargoyles
--More--
3 mind flayers
10 giant mimics
11 zruties
a fire giant
7 ogre kings
11 rock trolls
13 umber hulks
a flesh golem
2 Elvenkings
3 doppelgangers
16 hezrous
12 bone devils
5 large mimics
9 wumpuses
3 fire vortices
7 long worms
16 stalkers
7 air elementals
7 fire elementals
10 earth elementals
2 water elementals
5 hill giants
2 giant mummies
3 black nagas
17 xorns
13 giant zombies
7 elf-lords
16 sergeants
a water demon
7 barbed devils
15 vrocks
4 salamanders
17 wargs
2 winter wolves
9 hell hound pups
21 small mimics
3 glass piercers
6 warhorses
7 steam vortices
15 xans
6 ettin mummies
5 ogre lords
10 quantum mechanics
26 trolls
2 sasquatches
7 wood golems
3 erinyes
6 mariliths
5 sharks
an electric eel
12 gelatinous cubes
9 large dogs
2 freezing spheres
13 flaming spheres
3 shocking spheres
6 large cats
11 tigers
8 gargoyles
4 dwarf kings
19 tengu
7 ochre jellies
6 leocrottas
6 energy vortices
5 mountain centaurs
8 stone giants
4 elf mummies
5 human mummies
3 red nagas
5 green slimes
9 pit vipers
6 pythons
4 cobras
57 wraiths
7 carnivorous apes
22 ettin zombies
5 leather golems
3 Grey-elves
53 soldiers
4 watchmen
4 horned devils
5 succubi
11 incubi
12 chameleons
5 crocodiles
18 giant beetles
6 quivering blobs
11 cockatrices
19 wolves
10 winter wolf cubs
4 lynxes
8 panthers
6 gremlins
6 spotted jellies
4 leprechauns
4 orc-captains
8 iron piercers
9 mumakil //I never knew this was the plural of mumak.//
12 giant spiders
7 scorpions
5 horses
3 ice vortices
6 black lights
66 vampire bats
a forest centaur
11 gnome kings
5 orc mummies
6 dwarf mummies
4 ogres
4 brown puddings
10 rust monsters
17 owlbears
8 yetis
6 gold golems
5 werewolves
3 Green-elves
2 piranhas
21 giant eels
17 lizards
an apprentice //if "y" weren't a movement key, this guy would've
lived//
6 chickatrices
4 dogs
3 dingos
5 housecats
5 jaguars
5 dwarf lords
7 blue jellies
7 white unicorns
a gray unicorn
a black unicorn
9 dust vortices
14 ravens
8 plains centaurs
5 gnome mummies
5 snakes
10 water moccasins
9 apes
22 human zombies
7 rope golems
3 Woodland-elves
13 soldier ants
18 fire ants
4 bugbears
5 imps
4 lemures
11 quasits
3 wood nymphs
7 water nymphs
7 mountain nymphs
24 Mordor orcs
15 Uruk-hai
an orc shaman
2 rock piercers
4 rock moles
4 ponies
5 fog clouds
15 yellow lights
2 shriekers
8 violet fungi
21 gnome lords
10 gnomish wizards
5 kobold mummies
5 gray oozes
6 barrow wights
19 elf zombies
21 ghouls
2 straw golems
4 paper golems
a jellyfish
3 baby crocodiles
13 giant ants
3 little dogs
9 floating eyes
3 kittens
29 dwarves
6 homunculi
3 kobold lords
2 kobold shamans
39 hill orcs
17 rothes
a rabid rat
4 centipedes
15 giant bats
6 monkeys
27 orc zombies
19 dwarf zombies
a wererat
6 werejackals
10 iguanas
51 killer bees
9 acid blobs
6 coyotes
2 gas spores
9 hobbits
12 manes
3 large kobolds
8 hobgoblins
6 giant rats
3 cave spiders
3 brown molds
5 yellow molds
3 green molds
2 red molds
72 gnomes
a garter snake
7 gnome zombies
10 geckos
10 jackals
2 foxes
3 kobolds
6 goblins
4 sewer rats
11 grid bugs
5 bats
8 lichens
13 kobold zombies
9 newts
2377 creatures vanquished.
Genocided species:
chickatrices
cockatrices
pyrolisks
liches
demiliches
master liches
arch-liches
7 species genocided.
Voluntary challenges:
You genocided 7 types of monsters.
You used 10 wishes.
Goodbye Ralysse the Demigoddess...
You went to your reward with 4022766 points,
The Book of the Dead (worth 10000 zorkmids and 25000 points)
Magicbane (worth 3500 zorkmids and 8750 points)
The Candelabrum of Invocation (worth 5000 zorkmids and 12500 points)
Demonbane (worth 2500 zorkmids and 6250 points) //found in the Valley.
Orcrist was in Gehennom, but I didn't pick it up//
The Eye of the Aethiopica (worth 4000 zorkmids and 10000 points)
The Bell of Opening (worth 5000 zorkmids and 12500 points)
The Master Key of Thievery (worth 3500 zorkmids and 8750 points)
10 jasper stones (worth 5000 zorkmids),
8 emeralds (worth 20000 zorkmids),
7 garnet stones (worth 4900 zorkmids),
6 citrine stones (worth 9000 zorkmids),
6 topaz stones (worth 5400 zorkmids),
5 rubies (worth 17500 zorkmids),
5 turquoise stones (worth 10000 zorkmids),
5 jet stones (worth 4250 zorkmids),
5 amethyst stones (worth 3000 zorkmids),
5 agate stones (worth 1000 zorkmids),
4 obsidian stones (worth 800 zorkmids),
3 dilithium crystals (worth 13500 zorkmids),
3 diamonds (worth 12000 zorkmids),
3 amber stones (worth 3000 zorkmids),
2 chrysoberyl stones (worth 1400 zorkmids),
1 opal (worth 800 zorkmids),
1 fluorite stone (worth 400 zorkmids),
1 jade stone (worth 300 zorkmids),
4 amulets of life saving (worth 600 zorkmids),
4 amulets of reflection (worth 600 zorkmids),
3 amulets of strangulation (worth 450 zorkmids),
1 amulet of ESP (worth 150 zorkmids),
1 amulet of restful sleep (worth 150 zorkmids),
and 58940 pieces of gold, after 55649 moves.
You were level 30 with a maximum of 278 hit points when you ascended.
-Mal, who is going to play some SLASH'EM
Jesssica
On Jul 8, 7:30 pm, syullf....@gmail.com wrote:
> As a side note, I think the game would be improved if
> shopkeepers were significantly tougher - trying to outwit them is fun
> up until you know what works and what doesn't, but you can kill them
> almost at will if you have magic missile and reflection (and with only
> a little difficulty if you instead have magic resistance), which makes
> the whole thing kind of pointless.
You have to be careful with killing shopkeepers
if you're not playing chaotic (you lose telepathy and
2 points of luck). This usually makes me reluctant
to kill them. Plus you lose a useful source of price-
identification. (Which I guess you don't have to
worry too much about as a wizard.)
On Jul 8, 7:30 pm, syullf....@gmail.com wrote:
> At some point I ended up
> with another WoW, a magic lamp, and a water demon wish, which together
> got me a helm of brilliance, gauntlets of dexterity, a t-shirt, the
> Master Key of Thievery (which was actually after the quest; but
> whatever), a amulet of life saving (I later found more), and an amulet
> of magical breathing. The Amulets spoiler led me to believe I could
> eat it to become unbreathing, but it must not have worked because I
> wasn't unbreathing when I ascended.
You only get a 1 in 5 chance of getting an intrinsic
from eating an amulet:
http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/343/amul-343.html
"If the EAT field is Y, then it is possible to obtain an
effect permanently by polymorphing into a metallivore
(rock mole, rust monster, or xorn) and eating the
amulet. There is only a 1/5 chance of obtaining the
effect this way ("Magic spreads through your body
as you digest the amulet.")."
Why did you bring so much gold to the Planes?
syull...@gmail.com
> Congratulations on the ascension!
>
Thanks!
> On Jul 8, 7:30 pm, syullf....@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > As a side note, I think the game would be improved if
> > shopkeepers were significantly tougher - trying to outwit them is fun
> > up until you know what works and what doesn't, but you can kill them
> > almost at will if you have magic missile and reflection (and with only
> > a little difficulty if you instead have magic resistance), which makes
> > the whole thing kind of pointless.
>
> You have to be careful with killing shopkeepers
> if you're not playing chaotic (you lose telepathy and
> 2 points of luck). This usually makes me reluctant
> to kill them. Plus you lose a useful source of price-
> identification. (Which I guess you don't have to
> worry too much about as a wizard.)
>
True enough. I suppose that by the time you've converted an altar to
raise luck at, there's no point in worrying about whether or not
shopkeepers are balanced, since you can altar-camp indefinitely until
you find something you want anyway.
Still, tougher shopkeepers might be worth looking into.
> On Jul 8, 7:30 pm, syullf....@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > At some point I ended up
> > with another WoW, a magic lamp, and a water demon wish, which together
> > got me a helm of brilliance, gauntlets of dexterity, a t-shirt, the
> > Master Key of Thievery (which was actually after the quest; but
> > whatever), a amulet of life saving (I later found more), and an amulet
> > of magical breathing. The Amulets spoiler led me to believe I could
> > eat it to become unbreathing, but it must not have worked because I
> > wasn't unbreathing when I ascended.
>
> You only get a 1 in 5 chance of getting an intrinsic
> from eating an amulet:
>
> http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/343/amul-343.html
>
> "If the EAT field is Y, then it is possible to obtain an
> effect permanently by polymorphing into a metallivore
> (rock mole, rust monster, or xorn) and eating the
> amulet. There is only a 1/5 chance of obtaining the
> effect this way ("Magic spreads through your body
> as you digest the amulet.")."
>
>
Heh. I must've missed that and skipped right to the amulet
descriptions. Ah well; it's good to know for future reference.
Because adventurers should always take home all the treasure they can
carry! It would be a mortal sin to let all that gold sit with some
priest who never leaves the dungeon. If I don't get to keep the Amulet
of Yendor, I might as well have something to show for myself.
Well, besides immortality, which probably isn't all it's cracked up to
be.
Joseph N. Hall
> come in hordes a cake walk, and I hadn't noticed because I hadn't
> gotten to any really crowded levels before.
There are other ways to easily clear really large numbers of monsters.
A wielded cockatrice corpse is remarkably effective if you can do it
around a corner where you generally always have the first attack.
3cn...@gmail.com
Or:
1. break a wand of teleportation.
2. bread a wand of death, *preferably* while wearing an amulet of life-
saving, as dying is rather inconvenient.
3. leather drum/tooled horn/uncharged frost or fire horn - sort of
like area effect Elbereth.