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NetHack's 20th birthday (redux)

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David Damerell

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Aug 1, 2007, 10:48:53 AM8/1/07
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http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/nhcake.jpg

I told you we would have CAKE.
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Janis Papanagnou

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Aug 1, 2007, 1:46:09 PM8/1/07
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David Damerell wrote:
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/nhcake.jpg

I beg your pardon; I know of purple, red, and brown liches, but what's
that green lich on the cake? (A new monster species for Nethack 3.5?)

Janis

David Damerell

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Aug 1, 2007, 2:53:22 PM8/1/07
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It's a Sporkist master lich.

Martin Read

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Aug 1, 2007, 2:53:59 PM8/1/07
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Sporkhack has made master liches green instead of purple. (It has also
made them non-covetous.)
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Janis Papanagnou

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Aug 1, 2007, 8:32:12 PM8/1/07
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David Damerell wrote:
> Quoting Janis Papanagnou <Janis_Pa...@hotmail.com>:
>
>>David Damerell wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/nhcake.jpg
>>
>>I beg your pardon; I know of purple, red, and brown liches, but what's
>>that green lich on the cake? (A new monster species for Nethack 3.5?)
>
> It's a Sporkist master lich.

Uh-oh! What a blasphemy! A "Sporkhack monster" on Nethack's anniversary
cake. 8-o

Janis

Mike Kelly

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Aug 2, 2007, 7:25:51 AM8/2/07
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On 1 Aug, 19:53, Martin Read <mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> Janis Papanagnou <Janis_Papanag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >David Damerell wrote:
> >>http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/nhcake.jpg
>
> >I beg your pardon; I know of purple, red, and brown liches, but what's
> >that green lich on the cake? (A new monster species for Nethack 3.5?)
>
> Sporkhack has made master liches green instead of purple. (It has also
> made them non-covetous.)

And lower in cholesterol.

David Damerell

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Aug 2, 2007, 9:42:59 AM8/2/07
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Quoting Martin Read <mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>:

>Janis Papanagnou <Janis_Pa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>I beg your pardon; I know of purple, red, and brown liches, but what's
>>that green lich on the cake? (A new monster species for Nethack 3.5?)
>Sporkhack has made master liches green instead of purple. (It has also
>made them non-covetous.)

Personally I think Derek should have gone one step further; renamed purple
covetous archliches "master liches", renamed green uncovetous master
liches "demiliches", renamed demiliches "lichs", ditched the lowest rank
popcorn liches altogether. :-)
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Derek Ray

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Aug 2, 2007, 10:16:12 AM8/2/07
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On 2007-08-02, David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Personally I think Derek should have gone one step further; renamed purple
> covetous archliches "master liches", renamed green uncovetous master
> liches "demiliches", renamed demiliches "lichs", ditched the lowest rank
> popcorn liches altogether. :-)

I could just take away all their spells except "summon nasties" and make
them skittish... ;) Though I'm inclined to make them skittish anyway once
more of the monster spells don't rely on melee range to be effective. There's
no reason a critter with grade 'A' ranged attacks should rush up next to
you just so it can get Cuisinarted.

(That, of course, still requires a lot more thought, since this sort of
thing can really shake up the game, possibly too much so.)

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Ray Chason

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Aug 2, 2007, 4:29:33 PM8/2/07
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Small historical note: in pre-3.0 NetHack, leprechauns were L, leocrottas were
l, and liches did not exist. These NetHacks didn't have color, but if they did,
they might have had green L.

Furthermore, color first appeared in 3.0.4 (29 Sep 1989), and leprechauns
changed places with liches in 3.0.6 (22 Nov 1989). So mainline NetHack did
indeed have green L -- for all of 54 days in 1989.

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Sascha Wilde

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Oct 12, 2007, 6:54:53 PM10/12/07
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Ray Chason <cha...@newsguy.com.SPAMMEN.VERBOTEN> wrote:
> Small historical note: in pre-3.0 NetHack, leprechauns were L, leocrottas were
> l, and liches did not exist. These NetHacks didn't have color, but if they did,
> they might have had green L.

For those who -- like me -- missed these days and never played the
very first Nethack version released, now you can:

After discussing whether Nethack or Perl was older on our local LUG
(Linux User Goup) -- don't ask why this question might be of any
importance, it really isn't -- and some researching (Nethack is in
fact older by about five months) we dug up the original sources from
an usenet archive.

Unfortunately the old sources can't be build on a modern system out of
the box, so I hacked them a bit up -- and now they compile and run on
a nowadays GNU/Linux system. :-)

So for all of you interested in time traveling, here is the tarball
with the modified sources:

http://www.sha-bang.de/content/18_nethack/nethack-1.3d-revived_20071013.tar.gz

The current revived sources can always be found on my homepage
(german, just look out for the dowload link):

http://www.sha-bang.de/index.php?page=18_nethack

A README.revived with further details can be found in the archive and
online in the SCM:

http://hg.intevation.de/nethack/history/nethack-1.3d-revived/raw-file/tip/README.revived

Apropos SCM, those who are interested in the detailed changes (and
maybe in contributing) the mercurial[0] repository with all changes
can be found online at:

http://hg.intevation.de/nethack/history/nethack-1.3d-revived

cheers
sascha

[0] http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/
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Sascha Wilde

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Oct 15, 2007, 2:30:15 AM10/15/07
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Oct 15, 2007, 6:31:46 AM10/15/07
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Oct 15, 2007, 6:17:03 AM10/15/07
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