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Rachel Elizabeth Dillon  
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 More options Jul 15 2009, 3:12 pm
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From: Rachel Elizabeth Dillon <rac...@akrasiac.org>
Date: 15 Jul 2009 19:12:51 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 15 2009 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: DCSS August Tournament Announcement, request for comments
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On 2009-07-15, David Ploog <pl...@mi.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Rachel Elizabeth Dillon wrote:

>> After last year's success we're having another Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup
>> tournament over at crawl.akrasiac.org and crawl.develz.org.

> Yay!

>> Award banner for winning.

> Should all banners have cool names? This one could be "The Orb".

>> Award banner for first rune.

> "The Rune"

>> "The Scythe": Award banner for "I killed Sigmund twenty-seven times."

>:)

> Another idea for points:
> Deepest level reached in a ziggurat (200/100/50)

This will go in if we have an 0.5.1 where anyone sees a ziggurat.
*innocent smile*

>> NO POINT BANNERS
>> ----------------

> I like the idea of the banners a lot. But some of them are scummable:

>> "Pantheist": Chose every God not as a starting God. (Beogh and Lugonu
>> are tricky here! Also detecting this is vaguely tricky; technically it
>> works out to "died or won with every God with a character class that
>> cannot start as that God.)

> This one is probably okay, although players might kill characters of Kiku
> (say) after reaching the Temple. It might be better given for
> Won with all Gods (on characters who never switched religion).
> This demands 14 wins, so could be lessened to
> Won with most gods (on characters who never switched religion). [*]

The idea is that you should be able to get it easily, so that you don't
have to be able to win in order to get the award. :) If it's not worth
points I can't imagine a Stabwound or a N78291 killing off a character to
get a PNG file.

>> "Agnostic Pantheist": Has abandoned every God.

> This is too cheap: a winning character would visit the Temple during the
> orb run, take on and abandon all gods, voila! What about this:
> Has abandoned and mollified every god.

Ooooh, I like that a lot.

>> Open to other fun things here with the restriction that we need to be able
>> to calculate them from milestone and log files.

> "Versatile": Had [foo] different skill 27 titles (characters need not have
> won). [*]

I like this as well.

> "Pacifist": Highest XL reached without killing anyone. [*]
> (I hope this can be tracked.)

I like "won with fewest kills" instead as discussed elsewhere.
The real kicker: Fewest kills (which is basically the "summoner award") or
Fewest monsters that died?

> [*] All of these might be instead (or in addition) used for clan scoring.
> Especially something like
> 200/100/50 most versatile clan
> 200/100/50 most gods won
> 200/100/50 win with fewest kills (a milder form of pacifist)

I think those are reasonable.

> All of these can be nicely distributed among a team. (The last one,
> pacifist, is more fun if done for a clan than on its own, in my opinion.)

>> CLAN POINTS ONLY
>> ------------
>> 200/100/50 for _clan_ with most high scores in race/class combos.
>> 100/50/20 for _clan_ with most uniques killed (or all uniques killed first)

> I think clan boni of this order (200 or 100) are okay but only if...

>> CLAN SCORING
>> ------------
>> Sum total of individual points for wins, runes, and uniques,
>> sum total of special wins points, sum total of high scores points,

> If we remove the special wins here. I think it's more interesting for clan
> play if the first win etc. are not counted and instead questions like "Who
> of us is gonna try the Kiku win?" are emphasised.

I disagree; I think your individual performance should reflect well on
your clan. This didn't seem broken last year.

Thank you,

-r.


 
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