(LambdaRogue) Steal the stars!
Michal Bielinski
favourite roguelikes DoomRL and Crawl get played less and less. Instead
I dig up easier games like LamdaRogue. Recently I scored a win. Have
a look.
> Widmo, male, believer in Ares
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> LambdaRogue version: 1.6
>
> Widmo was the child of an archer and his beautiful wife.
> Widmo's eyes were blue and the thin hair was light brown.
>
> HP: 1653/1690
> PP: 109/117
Only 20 character levels and look how big your HPs grow. LR is *band in
gameplay terms but my toughest buffest chars in Gumband got barely over
thousand hit points.
> Strength : 93%/100%
> Divine Rage: 87%/100%
Ah, so DVR is divine rage! I could not find in help what that
abbreviation meant. I noticed when it fills 100% next hit instantly
kills something unless it is really buff.
> Widmo has retired after a successful life on dungeon level 6
> (the Cube, deck 2).
> Date: 199-12-1747
>
> Widmo was active for 164721 turns.
> In this time, Widmo achieved a score of 15140 points.
Most turns were spent searching for stairs to another dungeon level.
> Abilities
> Fight : 252
> View : 1
> Chant : 8
> Move : 30
> Steal : 9
I raised fight only to twenty-something. Rest was effect of my deity
going insane. I was digging through rock in heart of Forgotten Realm to
earn enough piety with RNG to finally receive History of NeoTerr
(part II) from him. During excavation I found many useless things which
got sacced to Ares on nearby altar. Some time later my character
stumbled into a web. To free him I placed my finger on 'p' and look what
happened. Ares increased fighting skill every second prayer ... instead
of lifting me instantly. Good thing was nearly everything got instantly
slain from that point on.
> Skills
> Sword : 20
> Axe : 8
> Lance : 5
> Fire-arm : 5
> Tool : 10
Spent some gold to increase tool so digging does not cost so much food.
> Talents
> Humility : 25
> Trade : 3
>
> Melee/Long-range/Defense: 269/252/92
Murderous, eh?
> Experience : 135400
> Character Lvl.: 20
>
> Profession: Thief
> - Assassin
> - Master Thief
Assassin is nothing to be proud of but Master Thief took some thought.
> Widmo has solved 39 quest(s).
> Solved quests:
[SNIP!] Too much spoilers there.
> Although Widmo prayed 12085 and saved 2 time(s), Widmo is dead.
The ship got hit by an asteroid?
> Inventory:
> ----------
> Insurance Card x1
> Picklock x3
> Eris' Key x1
> Caffeine x25
> Penicillin x67
> Tamiflu x75
[snip rest]
Did not find use for Eris' key.
> Monsters killed:
> ----------------
> 24 caveworm(s)
Uh-oh.
> 1 Thanan(s)
This <monster_name>(s) should be dealt with.
> 25 holetoad(s)
> 28 scorpio(s)
> 147 hellrat(s)
> 310 sick rat(s)
> 325 preacher(s)
> 365 cavebat(s)
> 229 slowworm(s)
> 205 antbee(s)
> 157 mindhunter(s)
> 173 lost priestess(s)
> 432 snake(s)
> 336 dark preacher(s)
> 64 sandman(s)
> 1 Dwarvenfall(s)
> 394 ghost(s)
> 321 nightmare(s)
> 24 worm mother(s)
Without additional speed one may end up needing to kill some.
> 1 Lonely Librarian(s)
> 1 Canthra(s)
> 1 Eris(s)
Pity I wasted her before Ares got wild with my fighting skill. Could
only deal damage by criticals.
> 1 Sleeper(s)
> 172 watchdog(s)
> 115 lavabee(s)
> 122 flicker(s)
> 150 evocator(s)
> 61 undead(s)
Undead(s)?! Terrible.
> 92 medusa(s)
> 1 XXXXX(s) (the one right above stronghold of Eris)
> 282 juno(s)
> 104 guard(s)
> 1 Benito Leone(s)
> 6 icewolf(s)
> 1 Ordinator(s)
> 3 scorpio(s)
> 17 undead rat(s)
> 1 Hunter(s)
> 9 silent ghost(s)
> 24 horse(s)
> 1 Undying King(s)
I actually listened to priest's advice and did as he say but king was
still here so I beat him anyway.
> 1 rat king(s)
> 25 old horse(s)
> 183 model X robot(s)
> 35 model Y robot(s)
All robots got oneshotted. No idea how dangerous these are.
> 1 Abandoned Android(s)
> 4 Michal(s)
> 2 Michal(s)
> 4 Michal(s)
> 4 Michal(s)
> 5 Michal(s)
> 2 Michal(s)
> 4 Michal(s)
> 3 Widmo(s)
> 3 Widmo(s)
All ghosts and all low level characters. LambdaRogue does not erase
bones file after using it.
> Last Messages:
[snip. nothing interesting here]
> Achievements:
> -------------
>
> 38-3-1715 (turn 0): Begins a new journey.
[snip]
> 199-12-1747 (turn 164721): Completed the journey successfully.
Oh, it took 32 years.
Worst thing was searching for up and down stairs when you need to travel
between towns to do quests. Boring and irritating because you have no
clue where stairs are and there is no detect stairs spell. No word of
recall either. Open caves are still quick to travel but mazes are
nightmarish unless you use a spade.
Quest givers will always reply "I am glad to know you, name." when you
talk to them after completing errand and recceiving reward. This applies
even to Francesca after you murder Benito.
Stealing cooldown does not work. Moreover it is reset by save-restore.
I could not resist to take advantage of this and make a little abuse ...
ok I cheated. Gathered enough money to buy insurance card early. Needed
it few times to combat starvation when my food supplies ran out while
trudging up and down between towns to solve quests. Stealing bug was
used to secure a full set of Adrian Smith's gear.
Deep underground I wandered for long time since I could not find
Dwarvenfall anywhere. Did the Forgotten Realm (but without challenging
the king) to no avail. Got complete history of NeoTerr but also without
result. Descended down and slew Eris. Resigned I decided to spoil myself
and searched quest data file for 'Dwarvenfall'. Numbers here are wrong.
He will not generate! Fixed this and ripped his guts open.
Next step was the spaceship itself. Here game instantly crashed after
opening a force field. A guaranteed range check error occurs. Annoyed
but still determined I figured out a stable release would not be out so
long with such a major bug so its probably only ASCII mode with this
bomb. My fears were confirmed. Last level was done in vastly inferior
SDL mode. However, minimap shows location of stairs and quest givers!
Aaaargggh!! Since I could not stand tile display I hacked quick through
the space ship, dug out rock around it but found no way to proceed.
With a sigh I opened level data file and placed stairs somewhere. Pity
it did not occur to me to remove all force fields and switch back to
ASCII. Anyway it was not the end of editing. Weapons officer had to be
placed to give me last quest. There I am ready to rob the stars!
All in all this is not a legitimate win after stealing abuse and file
editing despite the latter was justified.
--
Michal Bielinski
Mario Donick
Thanks for the reports -- I hope despite all the things you mention
(and which I was not aware of before), you had some fun ;)
Mario Donick
words:
> Most turns were spent searching for stairs to another dungeon level.
> ...
> there is no detect stairs spell. No word of recall either.
How do you find stairs in other roguelikes? Are there simply more of
them, or do you always have these spells?
> Ares increased fighting skill every second prayer ...
lol -- I think Ares may have been drunk ;-) No, seriously this must be
a bug.
Which of course destroyed the whole game for you.
> > Although Widmo prayed 12085 and saved 2 time(s), Widmo is dead.
> The ship got hit by an asteroid?
another lol -- another bug.
> Oh, it took 32 years.
What about weeks?
> Did not find use for Eris' key.
Without having Eris' key in inventory, you wouldn't been able to find
stairs down to Eris.
> I actually listened to priest's advice and did as he say but king was
> still here so I beat him anyway.
Did the king attack you? He is supposed to stay there, but die a
peaceful (second) death.
> LambdaRogue does not erase bones file after using it.
On purpose. Actually the startup script of the Windows version allows
to import bones files from other players into the existing ones, and
exporting existing ones.
> Quest givers will always reply "I am glad to know you, name." when you
> talk to them after completing errand and recceiving reward. This applies
> even to Francesca after you murder Benito.
Ah. This happens when you use a quest system that was made for
"positive" quests for "negative" things without adapting that message.
A bug.
> Stealing cooldown does not work. Moreover it is reset by save-restore.
On purpose. I don't want players to steal all the time.
> Deep underground I wandered for long time since I could not find Dwarvenfall anywhere
and
> Weapons officer had to be placed to give me last quest.
Since February 25th, there's a fix for this:
http://code.google.com/p/lambdarogue/downloads/detail?name=monsters.txt&can=2&q=
> Got complete history of NeoTerr but also without result.
You can use it for the father who wants to give it to his daugther.
> Next step was the spaceship itself. Here game instantly crashed after
> opening a force field. A guaranteed range check error occurs. Annoyed
> but still determined I figured out a stable release would not be out so
> long with such a major bug so its probably only ASCII mode with this
> bomb.
I tested this in ASCII mode, too. Worked. Strange. Have to check it
again.
> vastly inferior SDL mode
Matter of taste, I think. Many people who like LambdaRogue do it
because of the ASCII mode and its UI.
> With a sigh I opened level data file and placed stairs somewhere
Stairs should have been there without need for editing.
Michal Bielinski
>> Most turns were spent searching for stairs to another dungeon level.
>> ...
>> there is no detect stairs spell. No word of recall either.
>
> How do you find stairs in other roguelikes? Are there simply more of
> them, or do you always have these spells?
Roguelikes with persistent levels often have just one stairs down.
Crawl and games with large maps have many points to descend/ascend.
Roguelike with nonpersisten levels like Angband and variants have
multiple stairs. Word of recall which transports between town and
lowest reached dungeon level is a plenty and available to anyone for
little cost.
>> Ares increased fighting skill every second prayer ...
>
> lol -- I think Ares may have been drunk ;-) No, seriously this must be
> a bug.
>
> Which of course destroyed the whole game for you.
Thats true. Fortunately only late game was affected. Otherwise fighting
was quite fun.
>> Oh, it took 32 years.
>
> What about weeks?
Admittedly I do not understand LambdaRogue date format.
>> Did not find use for Eris' key.
>
> Without having Eris' key in inventory, you wouldn't been able to find
> stairs down to Eris.
So maybe use up the key when descending to Eris' fortress and make
the way permanently available from this point onward? Help says not to
drop this item since it is valuable even after I have Meteor in my
inventory.
>> I actually listened to priest's advice and did as he say but king was
>> still here so I beat him anyway.
>
> Did the king attack you? He is supposed to stay there, but die a
> peaceful (second) death.
So I was expected to defeat the king first and kill Eris then? I did it
the other way around. The king attacked me and was prompty slain.
>> Stealing cooldown does not work. Moreover it is reset by save-restore.
>
> On purpose. I don't want players to steal all the time.
>
>
>> Deep underground I wandered for long time since I could not find
>> Dwarvenfall anywhere and Weapons officer had to be placed to give me last
>> quest.
>
> Since February 25th, there's a fix for this:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/lambdarogue/downloads/detail?name=monsters.txt&can=2&q=
Ah, very good! I suggest you place a link to this file on LambdaRogue.net
download page.
>> Got complete history of NeoTerr but also without result.
>
> You can use it for the father who wants to give it to his daugther.
I did but my hopes were this would unlock Dwarvenfall somehow.
>> With a sigh I opened level data file and placed stairs somewhere
>
> Stairs should have been there without need for editing.
Sadly that was not the case.
--
Michal Bielinski