Settings for a Rougelike

[kaisal...@gmail.com]

I'm quite young so if that gets be shunned from the Rougelike crowd I can live with that.I attempting to make a Rougelike (Or maybe a Rougelikelike at the least). I've already sorted out a Map Algorithm which I've included lots of different parameters to give different dungeons and dungeon floors different feels.
Screen Shot: http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/kaimonkey_pkmn/ScreenShot.png

As you can see I'm using a tiles (But Ascii can be turned on/off) and I will be using various other graphics throughout the project.

The problem is that the only person I know who's willing to do graphics for the project has a full-on hatred for anything Fantasy. Which is annoyingly, the setting of most Rougelikes.
This means if I want to get free art for my project from a friend I most choose a setting that not Fantasy...

Just to clear up I'm planning to have:
Multiple dungeons as apposed to one big/infinite one.
Optional Permadeath
any kind of Combat System as nothing other than the Map Algorthm and Rendering has been started.

Thanks for your Help
Kai :)

[Gerry Quinn]

In article <20ac39e3-05e9-47f1...@googlegroups.com>,
kaisal...@gmail.com says...

> I'm quite young so if that gets be shunned from the Rougelike crowd I
> can live with that.I attempting to make a Rougelike (Or maybe a
> Rougelikelike at the least). I've already sorted out a Map Algorithm
> which I've included lots of different parameters to give different
> dungeons and dungeon floors different feels.
> Screen Shot: http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/kaimonkey_pkmn/ScreenShot.png

Set text to 80 columns please. And welcome aboard, screenshot looks
nice!

PS: it is roguelike, not rougelike.

> The problem is that the only person I know who's willing to do graphics for the project has a full-on hatred for anything Fantasy. Which is annoyingly, the setting of most Rougelikes.
> This means if I want to get free art for my project from a friend I most choose a setting that not Fantasy...

Well, science fiction is probably the nearest thing to fantasy. You can
use a lot of similar concepts, i.e. you can wield a blaster instead of a
wand of fireball, use 'programming' magic to summon and control robots,
use 'psionic' magic to hypnoptise enemies or cast illusions, etc... And
for dungeons you can have abandoned space stations or what not.

- Gerry Quinn

[kaisal...@gmail.com]

> Set text to 80 columns please.

I don't know what that means and my google-fu isn't helping me...

> PS: it is roguelike, not rougelike.

Okay now I just feel silly, I've been mis reading that for ages :)

> Well, science fiction is probably the nearest thing to fantasy.

Yes that was my thought but I'm hoping that won't be too generic for him.

Thanks for the help,
Kai

[Radomir Dopieralski]

On 2012-06-17, kaisal...@gmail.com <kaisal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This means if I want to get free art for my project from a friend I most
> choose a setting that not Fantasy...

http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php/Themes

Really, I can't understand why anybody still does fantasy roguelikes with
that much stuff to choose from :)

--
Radomir Dopieralski, sheep.art.pl

[narf_the_mouse]

"I don't understand why anybody would do science fiction roguelikes with
that much stuff to choose from."

There's a flaw in your logic.

[Michal Bielinski]

Once upon a time, narf_the_mouse wrote thus:

Not really. Science fiction roguelikes are far from the majority.

--
Michał Bieliński

[R. Alan Monroe]

Radomir Dopieralski <ne...@sheep.art.pl> wrote in
news:slrnjtse5...@shell.moinmo.in:

> http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php/Themes

Yes. This.

[Gerry Quinn]

In article <slrnjtse5...@shell.moinmo.in>, ne...@sheep.art.pl
says...

I think fantasy is just more evocative for the majority of people - both
players and developers.

- Gerry Quinn

[E. Liddell]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:45:49 -0700, kaisalmonkey wrote:

>> Set text to 80 columns please.
>
> I don't know what that means and my google-fu isn't helping me...

Traditional newsreaders (read: anything other than Google's
standards-violating web interface) don't word-wrap text.
That means that, since Google doesn't do it for you, you need
to hit Enter after every 70-odd characters to keep everyone
else from having to scroll sideways.

Alternatively, you could get a real newsfeed (some ISPs still
have their own, and http://www.eternal-september.org/ offers
a free one) and a real newsreader, so that you see what the
rest of us see.

[Kornel Kisielewicz]

It isn't helped by the fact that trying to find any newsreader that
isn't textmode and doesn't suck is next to impossible.
--
regard,
Kornel Kisielewicz
http://chaosforge.org/

[Darren Grey]

On Jun 18, 2:07 pm, Gerry Quinn <gerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnjtse57.fvp.n...@shell.moinmo.in>, n...@sheep.art.pl
> says...

>
> > On 2012-06-17, kaisalmon...@gmail.com <kaisalmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This means if I want to get free art for my project from a friend I most
> > > choose a setting that not Fantasy...
>
> >http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php/Themes
>
> > Really, I can't understand why anybody still does fantasy roguelikes with
> > that much stuff to choose from :)
>
> I think fantasy is just more evocative for the majority of people - both
> players and developers.

Fantasy includes magic, which for gameplay purposes allows a lot of
player and monster powers that you can be creative with. Also allows
pure monster enemies to wail on (a reason why zombies are also a
popular theme). Plus culturally it's a predominant and recognisable
setting. You have a good idea of what an orc is in every game you
play.

Some discussion of settings on Roguelike Radio:
http://roguelikeradio.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/episode-24-themes-and-settings.html

--
Darren Grey

[Martin Read]

Darren Grey <darrenj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You have a good idea of what an orc is in every game you play.

Only in the vague sense of "ugly humanoids with a propensity for
violence". Compare D&D orcs (ugly violent pig-snouted hooligans),
Tolkienian orcs (swarthy skulking ugly bullies), and Warhammer orcs
(bright green football hooligans).
--
\_\/_/ turbulence is certainty turbulence is friction between you and me
\ / every time we try to impose order we create chaos
\/ -- Killing Joke, "Mathematics of Chaos"

[narf_the_mouse]

Fallacy - You did not address the number of Roguelikes of each genre
category, only the possible genre categories.[/debate]

[narf_the_mouse]

On 19/06/2012 11:39 AM, Martin Read wrote:
> Darren Grey <darrenj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You have a good idea of what an orc is in every game you play.
>
> Only in the vague sense of "ugly humanoids with a propensity for
> violence". Compare D&D orcs (ugly violent pig-snouted hooligans),
> Tolkienian orcs (swarthy skulking ugly bullies), and Warhammer orcs
> (bright green football hooligans).
>

Those three categories, however, include most orcs in modern fiction.

[narf_the_mouse]

Huh...*TestText*TestText*TestText*TestText*TestText*TestText*TestText*TestText*TestText*TestText*

[fram...@sdf.org]

Running in a complete cli environment here (http://sdf.org) using tin
and loving it!

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6:34pm
This is a *time signature*.

[David Damerell]

Quoting E. Liddell <elid...@no.patience.for.spam>:
>That means that, since Google doesn't do it for you, you need
>to hit Enter after every 70-odd characters to keep everyone
>else from having to scroll sideways.

I just came back to Usenet... have Google actually changed matters so it's
effectively _impossible_ to post unmangled articles? What a nuisance.
--
David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> flcl?
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