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Re: Added draft strategy game to wiki

pmac...@yahoo.com (pete m) — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:25:46 UT

I think we agree on this: I just call the one, if not 'good strategy',
then 'efficient strategy' and the other 'borg strategy'.
I don't disagree, but I think it's important to understand what the
efficient model is first, then work out the details of reaching it
from other cases.
I had a horrible time learning this game the first time, because I

Re: RFC: A less-annoying birth option

martin.baz...@blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Bazley) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:05:25 UT

The following bytes were arranged on 5 Jan 2010 by Dave_Smith354 :
My current character is a kobold - I'm rather enjoying not having the
prospect of hanging around 1950' hoping desperately for Caspanion to
show up. :-)
Does anybody else actually play kobolds? I mean, they're not
High-Elves, but they're interesting in their own way...

Re: YACD - Half-Troll Warrior (3.0.6)

martin.baz...@blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Bazley) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:07:12 UT

The following bytes were arranged on 5 Jan 2010 by Dave_Smith354 :
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Hence why people don't like Google Groups. :-)

Re: Added draft strategy game to wiki

pmac...@yahoo.com (pete m) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:50:26 UT

There are no non-ego curses anymore. Weilding cursed armor and
weapons in the early game is extremely bad luck.

Re: RFC: A less-annoying birth option

dave_smith...@hotmail.com (Dave_Smith354) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:45:47 UT

Possibly a reason why Dal-i-Thalion are not junk (not at that level) -
their activation for cure poison every 5 turns. They have helped my
warrior survive numerous packs of Air hounds (admittedly I hid round
the corner and killed most of them one at a time).

Re: A complaint about the move to ID-by-use

dave_smith...@hotmail.com (Dave_Smith354) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:10:26 UT

I still play 3.0.6 (and I've got a copy of 2.7.9 hanging around). If
you're uncertain about Takkaria's changes you could always revert to
an earlier version. Otherwise "development" becomes simply "bug-
fixing". I know people have worked long and hard on these updates
after wide-ranging and long-lasting discussions on these boards.

Re: Unexpected features in nightlies

dave_smith...@hotmail.com (Dave_Smith354) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:33:37 UT

On Dec 30 2009, 10:12 am, Timo Pietilä <timo.piet...@helsinki.fi>
wrote:
Mushrooms (nearly) always disappear - unhealth or disease can only
inflict damage once, as far as I'm aware.

Re: YACD - Half-Troll Warrior (3.0.6)

dave_smith...@hotmail.com (Dave_Smith354) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:20:37 UT

That top table, tidied up
Name: DeTritUs
Sex: Male Age: 23
Race: Half-Troll Height: 107
Class: Warrior Weight 141
Title: Commando Status 1
HP: 481/481 Maximize Y
SP: 0/0 Preserve Y
Self RB CB EB Best

Re: Added draft strategy game to wiki

timo.piet...@helsinki.fi (Timo Pietilä) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:01:42 UT

By escape I don't mean that you should run from every possible unknown
monster. I mean that you have a way to get out once you find out that
"Ouch! That hits way too badly". If you still get killed that means that
a) you didn't have escape or b) monster was an insta-killer or c) it did
have something *bad* in its sleeve that you wasn't prepared to handle

Re: YACD - Half-Troll Warrior (3.0.6)

dave_smith...@hotmail.com (Dave_Smith354) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:59:57 UT

Hi all. Happy New Year!
So I finally decided to play a game with "preserve on" and break away
from my 2.7.9 habits. Haven't posted on here in over a year; when i
first got my home pc connected to the 'net, I was a bit green about
virus issues, wound up with Trojans and Worms all over the place and

Re: Added draft strategy game to wiki

timo.piet...@helsinki.fi (Timo Pietilä) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:39:23 UT

Agreed, but it still wont kill you. Not by itself. If you have borg-like
patience and you like exploring you can enjoy and learn and get deep
using slow method instead of getting frustrated by a lot of deaths. A
lot of deaths is at least as frustrating as slow advance with single
char, and slow advance might be more appealing than billion repeats of

YACD - Half-Troll Warrior (3.0.6)

dave_smith...@hotmail.com (Dave_Smith354) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:16:58 UT

[Angband 3.0.6 Character Dump]
Name DeTritUs Self RB CB EB
Best
Sex Male Age 23 STR: 18 +4 +5 +5
18/140
Race Half-Troll Height 107 INT: 13 -4 -2 +0
7
Class Warrior Weight 141 WIS: 15 -2 -2 +1

Re: Added draft strategy game to wiki

wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:02:29 UT

I generally boost starting Dex to get +2 AC that way, and still have to
spend all my initial money to get an AC of 8. I do it anyway, because
it's a better investment (for those early levels) than anything else I
could spend it on, but it's still no more than half what I'd been used
to getting for the first dive in previous versions.

Re: Added draft strategy game to wiki

wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:52:53 UT

That last sentence bothers me, and I think it misses the point.
Playing the game is supposed to be fun.
If continuing to play won't be fun, then there's no point in playing,
and you might as well quit.
Dismissing quitting as "the coward's way out" seems rude, in that it
denigrates people who don't find a (to-them-)hopeless challenge fun.

Re: Added draft strategy game to wiki

pmac...@yahoo.com (pete m) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:42:27 UT

A lot of the tactics are already included in TANG. I will make the
reference up front, rather than in the notes section.