YASD: *&%$# Time Hounds...
dsti...@gmail.com
sneaking around and grabbing floor loot and killing off easy pickings
to get consumables and stat potions (and the occasional artifact -
Thorin!!!) when a pack of Time Hounds decided that I should stop
taking advantage of Morgy's hospitality. :-(
Any advice for the very funny random name Caring the Half-Orc warrior?
My current goal was to get to aprox. 65 and hunt for speed - always on
the lookout for headgear in the hopes of some ESP too...
[Angband 3.1.1 dev (r1626) Character Dump]
Name Caring Self RB CB EB
Best
Sex Female Age 14 STR: 18/14 +2 +5 +9
18/174
Race Half-Orc Height 63 Int: 12 -1 -2 +1
10 6
Class Warrior Weight 114 WIS: 13 +0 -2 +3
14
Title Commando Social Lordly DEX: 18/62 +0 +2 +7
18/152
HP -32/556 Maximize Y CON: 18/17 +1 +2 +7
18/117
SP 0/0 CHR: 12 -4 -1 +2
9
Level 33 Armor [28,+115] Saving Throw
49%
Cur Exp 235673 Fight (+24,+25) Stealth Very
Good
Max Exp 255925 Melee (+33,+37) Fighting
Legendary
Adv Exp 302500 Shoot (+36,+15) Shooting
Heroic
MaxDepth 3050' (L61) Blows 6/turn Disarming
59%
Turns 412437 Shots 2/turn Magic Device Very
Good
Gold 80904 Infra 30 ft Perception 1 in
41
Burden 144.2 lbs Speed 4 Searching
14%
Your father was an Orc, but it is unacknowledged. You are the adopted
child of a Royal Blood Line. You are a credit to the family. You
have blue eyes, straight auburn hair, and a very fair complexion.
rAcid:......+.*.... rConf:.............
rElec:.++.......... Sound:........+....
rFire:.+..+........ Shard:......+......
rCold:.+........... Nexus:.............
rPois:............. Nethr:.............
rFear:........+...+ Chaos:........+....
rLite:....+........ Disen:.............
rDark:+...+.......+ S.Dig:.+...........
rBlnd:............. Feath:.............
PLite:+...+........ Aggrv:.............
Regen:............. Stea.:.......+...+.
ESP:............. Sear.:.............
Invis:+............ Infra:............+
FrAct:+.......++... Tunn.:.............
HLife:+...+........ Speed:.+....+......
ImpHP:............. Blows:.............
ImpSP:............. Shots:.+...........
Fear:............. Might:.+...........
[Last Messages]
> You are surrounded by a white light.
> The Time hound breathes time.
> You're not as bright as you used to be...
> The Time hound breathes time.
> You feel life has clocked back.
> The Time hound breathes time.
> You feel life has clocked back.
> Low hitpoint warning!
> *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> The Time hound breathes time.
> You feel life has clocked back.
> *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> The Time hound breathes time.
> You feel life has clocked back.
> You die.
Killed by a Time hound.
[Character Equipment]
a) a Glaive of Gondolin (2d6) (+9,+12) {@w0 !d!k!v}
Slays demons, orcs, trolls, dragons.
Provides resistance to dark.
Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
Prevents paralysis. Stops experience drain. Grants the ability
to see invisible things.
Combat info:
6 blows/round.
This weapon benefits from one or more ring brands.
Average damage/hit: 61.8 vs. demons, 61.8 vs. orcs, 61.8 vs.
trolls, 61.8 vs. dragons, 61.8 vs. creatures not resistant to
electricity, and 46.3 vs. others.
Radius 1 light.
b) The Short Bow of Amras (x2) (+12,+15) (+1 speed)
+1 intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, speed, shooting speed,
shooting power.
Provides resistance to lightning, fire, cold.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Slows your metabolism.
c) a Jasper Ring of Lightning [+14]
It brands your melee attacks with lightning.
Provides resistance to lightning.
Cannot be harmed by electricity.
When aimed, it grants electricity resistance for d20+20 turns
and
creates a lightning ball of damage 85.
Takes 71 to 140 turns to recharge at your current speed.
d) a Sapphire Ring of Damage (+0,+8)
e) an Azure Amulet of Devotion (+2)
+2 wisdom, charisma.
Provides resistance to fire, light, dark.
Sustains wisdom, charisma.
Stops experience drain.
Radius 1 light.
f) The Phial of Galadriel (charging)
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Radius 3 light.
g) The Leather Scale Mail 'Thalkettoth' (-1) [10,+25] (+3) {!d!k!v}
+3 dexterity, speed.
Provides resistance to acid, shards.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
h) an Elven Cloak of Stealth [6,+12] (+3 stealth)
+3 stealth.
i) The Small Metal Shield of Thorin [4,+25] (+4) {!*!*}
+4 strength, constitution.
Provides immunity to acid.
Provides resistance to fear, sound, chaos.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.
j) a Golden Crown of Might [0,+9] (+3)
+3 strength, dexterity, constitution.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains strength, dexterity, constitution.
Prevents paralysis.
k) a Set of Mithril Gauntlets of Power (+3,+4) [5,+11] (+2)
+2 strength.
Cannot be harmed by acid.
l) a Pair of Iron Shod Boots of Stealth [3,+9] (+2)
+2 stealth.
[Character Inventory]
a) 3 Green Mushrooms of Clear Mind
When eaten, it cures confusion and hallucination, removes fear
and
grants you temporary resistance to confusion.
b) 32 Purple Speckled Potions of Cure Critical Wounds {@q1 !d}
When drunk, it heals you a large amount (1/4 of your wounds,
minim
um 30HP), heals cut damage, and cures stunning, poisoning,
blindne
ss, and confusion.
c) 13 Yellow Potions of Resist Cold
When drunk, it grants temporary resistance to cold for 1d10+10
tur
ns.
d) a Red Speckled Potion of Resist Poison
When drunk, it grants temporary resistance to poison for 1d10+10
t
urns.
e) 10 Scrolls titled "efecuppo" of Phase Door
When read, it teleports you randomly up to 10 squares away.
f) 3 Scrolls titled "larecor ino co" of Teleport Level {!r!d!k!v}
When read, it teleports you one level up or down.
g) 9 Scrolls titled "elis comae" of Magic Mapping
When read, it maps the area around you.
h) 2 Scrolls titled "ex illentia no" of Word of Recall
When read, it returns you from the dungeon or takes you to the
dun
geon after a short delay.
i) a Scroll titled "punas pro jus" of Recharging
When read, it tries to recharge a wand or staff, destroying the
wa
nd or staff on failure.
j) 4 Zirconium Rods of Treasure Location {@z3}
When activated, it detects gold and objects nearby.
Takes 70 turns to recharge at your current speed.
k) 3 Silver Rods of Door/Stair Location {@z2}
When activated, it detects doors and stairs nearby.
Takes 98 turns to recharge at your current speed.
l) 4 Nickel Rods of Trap Location {@z1}
When activated, it detects traps nearby.
Takes 70 turns to recharge at your current speed.
m) 2 Aluminum Rods of Light {@z4}
When aimed, it lights up part of the dungeon in a straight line.
Takes 12 turns to recharge at your current speed.
n) a Pewter Wand of Teleport Other (8 charges) {!d!k!v}
When aimed, it teleports a target monster away.
o) a Mahogany Staff of Detect Evil (15 charges)
When activated, it detects evil creatures nearby.
p) 2 Mistletoe Staves of Teleportation (7 charges) {!*}
When activated, it teleports you randomly up to 100 squares away.
q) an Eucalyptus Staff of Speed (6 charges)
When activated, it hastens you for 2d10+20 turns.
r) a Cottonwood Staff of Identify (3 charges)
When activated, it reveals to you the extent of an item's
magical
powers.
s) a Pair of Steel Shod Boots of Stability [6,+10]
Provides resistance to nexus.
Feather Falling.
t) 9 Arrows (1d4) (+2,+5) {=g}
Combat info:
Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
Average damage/hit: 69.5.
35% chance of breaking upon contact.
u) 60 Arrows (1d4) (+0,+0) {=g}
Combat info:
Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
Average damage/hit: 54.
35% chance of breaking upon contact.
[Home Inventory]
a) 11 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds {@q1 !d}
When drunk, it heals you a large amount (1/4 of your wounds,
minim
um 30HP), heals cut damage, and cures stunning, poisoning,
blindne
ss, and confusion.
b) 6 Potions of Healing
When drunk, it heals you a really large amount (35% of max HP,
min
imum 300HP), heals cut damage, and cures stunning, poisoning,
blin
dness, and confusion.
c) 2 Blue Speckled Potions of *Healing*
When drunk, it restores 1200 hit points, heals cut damage, and
cur
es stunning, poisoning, blindness, and confusion.
It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
d) a Green Potion of Enlightenment
When drunk, it completely lights up and magically maps the level.
e) 3 Purple Potions of Resist Heat
When drunk, it grants temporary resistance to fire for 1d10+10
tur
ns.
f) 2 Scrolls of Teleportation
When read, it teleports you randomly up to 100 squares away.
g) a Scroll of Remove Curse
When read, it removes all ordinary curses from all equipped
items.
h) a Scroll titled "lacredo vo co" of *Destruction*
When read, it destroys an area around you in the shape of a
circle
radius 15, and blinds you for 1d10+10 turns.
i) a Brass Rod of Illumination
When activated, it lights up an area and inflicts 2d8 damage on
li
ght-sensitive creatures.
Takes 42 turns to recharge at your current speed.
j) 2 Mahogany Staves of Detect Evil (0 charges)
When activated, it detects evil creatures nearby.
k) a Cedar Staff of Mapping (1 charge)
When activated, it maps the area around you.
l) an Amethyst Ring of Strength (+4)
+4 strength.
Sustains strength.
m) a Quartz Ring of See Invisible
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
n) The Full Plate Armour of Isildur [26,+25] (+1)
+1 constitution.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, confusion,
sound, nexus.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
o) The Cloak of Thorongil [1,+10]
Provides resistance to acid, fear.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis. Grants the ability to see invisible
things.
p) The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cammithrim' [1,+10]
Provides resistance to light.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains constitution.
Prevents paralysis.
Radius 1 light.
q) The Short Bow of Amrod (x2) (+12,+15) (+2)
+2 strength, constitution, shooting power.
Provides resistance to lightning, fire, cold.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Speeds regeneration.
r) a Heavy Crossbow of Extra Shots (x4) (+11,+13) (+1)
+1 shooting speed.
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CHAR.
| TURN | DEPTH |LEVEL| EVENT
============================================================
1 0' 1 Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
2203 100' 2 Reached level 2
2614 200' 3 Reached level 3
2614 200' 4 Reached level 4
3455 200' 4 Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
5942 200' 5 Reached level 5
6322 200' 6 Reached level 6
16569 250' 7 Reached level 7
19923 250' 8 Reached level 8
26708 350' 9 Reached level 9
36375 500' 10 Reached level 10
43405 550' 11 Reached level 11
46673 550' 12 Reached level 12
58237 150' 12 Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
63261 300' 13 Reached level 13
78918 450' 14 Reached level 14
85979 550' 15 Reached level 15
102432 750' 16 Reached level 16
111682 850' 17 Reached level 17
120603 850' 18 Reached level 18
140412 900' 18 Killed Smeagol
141899 900' 19 Reached level 19
154524 950' 20 Reached level 20
170772 1200' 20 Killed Grishnakh, the Hill Orc
170908 1200' 21 Reached level 21
185541 1700' 22 Reached level 22
196408 1850' 23 Reached level 23
255031 1900' 24 Reached level 24
279371 1900' 25 Reached level 25
291858 1950' 25 Found The Leather Scale Mail 'Thalkettoth'
293868 1950' 26 Reached level 26
294726 1950' 26 Found The Small Metal Shield of Thorin
302143 1900' 26 Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
303577 1950' 27 Reached level 27
304400 1950' 27 Found The Short Bow of Amrod
306824 2000' 28 Reached level 28
314984 2100' 28 Found The Cloak of Thorongil
319099 2100' 29 Reached level 29
319599 2100' 29 Killed Ibun, Son of Mim
333526 2250' 29 Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
345932 2250' 30 Reached level 30
348840 2300' 30 Killed Mim, Betrayer of Turin
348863 2300' 30 Found The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cammithrim'
349959 2300' 31 Reached level 31
361086 2450' 31 Found The Pike 'Til-i-arc' (LOST)
362440 2450' 31 Found The Short Bow of Amras
364089 2500' 31 Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
365271 0' 31 Killed Farmer Maggot
381195 2800' 32 Reached level 32
385651 2800' 32 Found The Full Plate Armour of Isildur
396043 3000' 32 Found The Dagger 'Dethanc'
397782 2950' 33 Reached level 33
399516 3000' 33 Killed Adunaphel the Quiet
404996 3000' 33 Found The Dagger 'Narthanc'
[Options]
Maximize effect of race/class bonuses : yes (adult_maximize)
Randomize some of the artifacts (beta) : no (adult_randarts)
Restrict the use of stairs/recall : no (adult_ironman)
Restrict the use of stores/home : no (adult_no_stores)
Restrict creation of artifacts : no
(adult_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor : no (adult_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level : no (adult_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs : no (adult_no_stairs)
Adult: Monsters chase current location : yes (adult_ai_sound)
Adult: Monsters chase recent locations : yes (adult_ai_smell)
Adult: Monsters act smarter in groups : yes (adult_ai_packs)
Adult: Monsters learn from their mistakes : no (adult_ai_learn)
Adult: Monsters exploit players weaknesses : no (adult_ai_cheat)
Adult: Monsters behave more intelligently (broken): no
(adult_ai_smart)
Score: Peek into object creation : no (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation : no (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation : no (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else : no (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info : no (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death : no (score_live)
Eddie Grove
> Everything was going great, I was blipping down to the dungeon,
> sneaking around and grabbing floor loot and killing off easy pickings
> to get consumables and stat potions (and the occasional artifact -
> Thorin!!!) when a pack of Time Hounds decided that I should stop
> taking advantage of Morgy's hospitality. :-(
> [Last Messages]
>
> > You are surrounded by a white light.
> > The Time hound breathes time.
> > You're not as bright as you used to be...
> > The Time hound breathes time.
> > You feel life has clocked back.
> > The Time hound breathes time.
> > You feel life has clocked back.
> > Low hitpoint warning!
> > *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> > The Time hound breathes time.
> > You feel life has clocked back.
> > *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> > The Time hound breathes time.
> > You feel life has clocked back.
> > You die.
>
> Killed by a Time hound.
>
> [Character Equipment]
> e) an Azure Amulet of Devotion (+2)
> +2 wisdom, charisma.
> Provides resistance to fire, light, dark.
> Sustains wisdom, charisma.
> Stops experience drain.
>
> Radius 1 light.
There is no guarantee it would have helped, but if you had been
wearing an amulet of infravision you might have seen the time hounds
before you had to light the room, and that might have saved you.
Another option is to abuse connected stairs. If you land in a
possibly dangerous room, reset by taking the stairs immediately, and
repeat until you don't land in a dark room.
Eddie
Timo Pietilä
> Everything was going great, I was blipping down to the dungeon,
> sneaking around and grabbing floor loot and killing off easy pickings
> to get consumables and stat potions (and the occasional artifact -
> Thorin!!!) when a pack of Time Hounds decided that I should stop
> taking advantage of Morgy's hospitality. :-(
>
> Any advice for the very funny random name Caring the Half-Orc warrior?
> My current goal was to get to aprox. 65 and hunt for speed - always on
> the lookout for headgear in the hopes of some ESP too...
> Level 33 Armor [28,+115] Saving Throw
> MaxDepth 3050' (L61) Blows 6/turn Disarming
> 59%
> Turns 412437 Shots 2/turn Magic Device Very
That death was pretty unavoidable.
Only suggestion I can make is to either go slower (that's pretty fast
you have been going) and get ESP before getting into Time Hound region,
or go a lot faster IE. crash-dive to 4000' and spend as little time
between 2500' and 4000 as possible to increase possibility of getting
better gear before that happens.
Time Hounds are also my worst enemy. Those move at speed +20 which means
that when I first meet them I can't match their speed even with haste,
and that means I can't fight them one by one easily. It is very bad luck
to get them at the starting room.
I would have used Amrod instead of Amras (for CON and STR), but other
than that not much other changes.
Timo Pietil�
pete m
> Everything was going great, I was blipping down to the dungeon,
> sneaking around and grabbing floor loot and killing off easy pickings
> to get consumables and stat potions (and the occasional artifact -
> Thorin!!!) when a pack of Time Hounds decided that I should stop
> taking advantage of Morgy's hospitality. :-(
>
> Any advice for the very funny random name Caring the Half-Orc warrior?
> My current goal was to get to aprox. 65 and hunt for speed - always on
> the lookout for headgear in the hopes of some ESP too...
>
detection and/or ESP. As Eddie says, "Infra can help a lot (and vs
'Q', even with ESP)
My recommendation is to try Rogue. I have much better luck with that
class for diving. (Ranger is good too, depending on taste.)
Eddie Grove
> On Jan 10, 1:29 pm, "dstil...@gmail.com" <dstil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Everything was going great, I was blipping down to the dungeon,
> > sneaking around and grabbing floor loot and killing off easy pickings
> > to get consumables and stat potions (and the occasional artifact -
> > Thorin!!!) when a pack of Time Hounds decided that I should stop
> > taking advantage of Morgy's hospitality. :-(
> >
> > Any advice for the very funny random name Caring the Half-Orc warrior?
> > My current goal was to get to aprox. 65 and hunt for speed - always on
> > the lookout for headgear in the hopes of some ESP too...
> >
> There's not much you can do with a warrior after dl 60, without
> detection and/or ESP. As Eddie says, "Infra can help a lot (and vs
> 'Q', even with ESP)
And maybe a hat of infravision as well, even instead of his crown of might, in
addition to an amulet. Would another +8 on infravision have saved him? We'll
never know.
This comes under detection, which really is more important than offense or
defense. That's a lesson you don't fully appreciate until you spend a lot of
time in the deeper half of the dungeon.
Eddie
dsti...@gmail.com
It seems silly now, but I hadn't really considered Infravision
to be detection before. Oh well, live/die and learn! ;-)
--
Daniel C. Stillwaggon
<dsti...@gmail.com>
Dave_Smith354
Another thing for me to watch out for then - I won't ask what their
native depth is because if I do find out, there's sure to be an OOD
pack waiting for me on my next dive (thanks be to the RNG)!!
Matthew Vernon
> Another thing for me to watch out for then - I won't ask what their
> native depth is because if I do find out, there's sure to be an OOD
> pack waiting for me on my next dive (thanks be to the RNG)!!
I'm not very good at doing this, but if you arrive in a horrible room,
you can just go back up the stairs...
Matthew
--
Rapun.sel - outermost outpost of the Pick Empire
http://www.pick.ucam.org
dsti...@gmail.com
> I'm not very good at doing this, but if you arrive in a horrible room,
> you can just go back up the stairs...
as a great free escape mechanism - so much so that my feeling of
security on a level is a linear function of my distance from the
stairs! Many a time I've gone down stairs, seen a pack of nasties
(or one *really* nasty!) and immediately gone back up. The problem
here is that the Time Hounds were literally one square beyond my
very large (5!) light radius and so I couldn't see them until I
lit the room - the one move safety margin - at which time they
pummeled me.
Don't let this be misread as a caution against diving - the
exact same thing could have happened (and has) if I'd spent
an order of magnatude more time getting to that dl. Luck
is a part of this game and I firmly believe that diving rapidly
is the best way of skewing the distribution curve in my
favor. It also makes the trip a damn-sight more fun!
pete m
> The problem
> here is that the Time Hounds were literally one square beyond my
> very large (5!) light radius and so I couldn't see them until I
> lit the room - the one move safety margin - at which time they
> pummeled me.
>
> Don't let this be misread as a caution against diving - the
> exact same thing could have happened (and has) if I'd spent
> an order of magnatude more time getting to that dl. Luck
> is a part of this game and I firmly believe that diving rapidly
> is the best way of skewing the distribution curve in my
> favor. It also makes the trip a damn-sight more fun!
>
Yes! After [at least] two deaths to plasma hounds under the same
circumstances, I am not one likely to disagree. (Actually, [at least]
one of those deaths was from a bad teleportation, but who's counting?)
Eddie Grove
Were you playing a mage-caster? If so m7a is the answer.
http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=2577&highlight=m7a
Doesn't help warriors, but rogues and rangers and mages have an out.
Eddie
pete m
Nice trick! But the OP was playing Warrior, which is what started the
discussion about "Infra in the first place. (And yes, I value "Infra
extremely high, even with ESP. Better than anything else until very
late, except for "WIS for Priest/Paladin. Certainly better than
"Regen. Or Devotion, except as a swap.)
Matthew Vernon
> Were you playing a mage-caster? If so m7a is the answer.
Oh, cute. Not that I've found that book in my current game, yet.