Searching for the One Ring
David Vestal
(my 4th winner ever, yay!), and I really, REALLY wanted to find the
one ring for a change.
So I kept diving...straight to level 127, stopping at each level only
to cast Clairvoyance and peruse the object list (okay, I did take a
detour for a certain 4d5 longsword).
For 200K turns at +30 speed I've been doing nothing but:
1) Cast Alter Reality at level 127.
2) Cast Clairvoyance
3) See that the object list doesn't contain a plain gold ring
4) Repeat.
Not a trace. Is this optimum strategy for finding it?
Timo Pietilä
> My Dunadan priest killed Morgy at just over the 1 million turns mark
> (my 4th winner ever, yay!), and I really, REALLY wanted to find the
> one ring for a change.
>
> So I kept diving...straight to level 127, stopping at each level only
> to cast Clairvoyance and peruse the object list (okay, I did take a
> detour for a certain 4d5 longsword).
>
> For 200K turns at +30 speed I've been doing nothing but:
> 1) Cast Alter Reality at level 127.
> 2) Cast Clairvoyance
> 3) See that the object list doesn't contain a plain gold ring
What object list? Can you have window that shows all known objects?
> Not a trace. Is this optimum strategy for finding it?
The one Ring has rarity of about 1/1000000 to find it. You can find it
but it takes time. A lot of time.
I have found all old artifacts and from new ones only Mediator is still
not found.
The One Ring isn't actually that useful if you have optimized other
gear. I have found it twice now, and second time I didn't even use it
because I already had everything I needed and then some, and aggravation
from that would have been bigger penalty than any bonus it gave.
Feanor did avoid me longest time. When I found it I didn't even
recognize it as artifact, I just thought "weird name for a new ego, lets
try it on". When my speed bounced +15 points I realized what it was.
Timo Pietil�
lcc
Try killing dragons/ wyrms for treasure. Eventually you will have
found all artifacts EXCEPT the one ring. Then the next time an
artifact is generated, out it pops!
Lonnie Courtney Clay
dve...@gmail.com
1230678 6350' 50 Found The Amulet 'Elessar'
1265473 6350' 50 Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Camlost' (LOST)
1278012 6350' 50 Found The Cloak 'Colannon'
1280099 6350' 50 Found The Ring of Power 'The One Ring'
Holy @*$!, it's fun walking around with the One Ring and Grond!
Here's a chardump, just for the heck of it. I used Taratol and
Cubragol when fighting Morgoth.
[Angband 3.1.1 dev Character Dump]
Name Gorgis Self RB CB EB
Best
Sex Female Age 65 STR! 18/100 +1 -1 +13718/
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Race Dunadan Height 76 INT! 18/100 +2 -3 +13518/
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Class Priest Weight 185 WIS! 18/100 +2 +3 +13518/
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Title ***WINNER*** Social Lordly DEX! 18/100 +2 -1 +13418/
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HP 816/959 Maximize Y CON! 18/100 +3 +0 +13718/
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SP 340/350 CHR! 18/100 +2 +2 +13018/
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Level 50 Armor [32,+128] Saving Throw
100%
Cur Exp 12630704 Fight (+58,+50) Stealth
Good
Max Exp 12630704 Melee (+63,+56) Fighting
Superb
Adv Exp ******** Shoot (+80,+21) Shooting
Superb
MaxDepth 6350' (L127) Blows 3/turn Disarming
88%
Turns 1283044 Shots 2/turn Magic Device
Heroic
Gold 13417772 Infra 1270 ft Perception 1 in
19
Burden 334.8 lbs Speed 22 Searching
29%
You are one of several children of a Guildsman. You are a credit to
the family. You have brown eyes, straight brown hair, and an average
complexion.
Acid:..*...+.*++.. Confu:......+..+...
Elec:..*......+... Sound:........+....
Fire:..*......+... Shard:.......+.....
Cold:..*......+... Nexus:.........+...
Pois:..+...+..+... Nethr:..+......+...
Fear:....+...++... Chaos:.....+..+....
Lite:.........+... Disen:..+.+........
Dark:..+......+... S.Dig:.............
Blind:.....+....... Feath:.............
PLite:.........+... Aggrv:+.+..+.......
Regen:..+.......... Stea.:.............
Telep:+.+..+...+... Sear.:.....+.......
Invis:+.+..+...+... Infra:.....+...+...
FrAct:....+...+.+.. Tunn.:.............
HLife:............. Speed:..++.......+.
ImpHP:............. Blows:.............
ImpSP:............. Shots:.+...........
Fear:............. Might:.+...........
[Last Messages]
> You destroy a Katana (3d5) {unknown}.
> You see no more Katanas (3d5) {unknown}.
> You were wielding The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+6) (s).
> You are wielding The Long Sword 'Ringil' (4d5) (+22,+25) (+10 speed) (a).
> You were wielding The Long Sword 'Ringil' (4d5) (+22,+25) (+10 speed) (s).
> You are wielding The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+6) (a).
> Looks like any other level.
> Illegal command for window options!
> Looks like any other level.
> You sense no traps.
> You sense the presence of doors and stairs!
> You sense the presence of buried treasure!
> You sense the presence of objects!
> You sense the presence of invisible creatures!
> You sense the presence of monsters!
Killed by Ripe Old Age.
[Character Equipment]
a) The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+6)
Slays animals, evil creatures, orcs, trolls.
*Slays* dragons, demons, undead.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Grants telepathy.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Aggravates creatures nearby.
Combat info:
3 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 211 vs. animals, 211 vs. evil creatures,
285.7
vs. orcs, 285.7 vs. trolls, 435.1 vs. dragons, 435.1 vs. demons,
435.1 vs. undead, and 136.3 vs. others.
Sometimes creates earthquakes on impact.
b) a Light Crossbow of the Haradrim (x3) (+22,+21) (+1)
+1 shooting speed, shooting power.
Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
c) The Ring of Power 'The One Ring' (+15,+15) (+5) {cursed}
Permanently cursed.
+5 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution,
charisma, speed.
Provides immunity to acid, lightning, fire, cold.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison,
dark,
nether, disenchantment.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity,
constitution,
charisma.
Speeds regeneration.
Grants telepathy.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Aggravates creatures nearby.
Drains experience.
It can be activated.
d) a Ring of Speed (+15)
+15 speed.
e) an Amulet of Weaponmastery (+5,+5) (+3)
+3 strength.
Provides resistance to fear, disenchantment.
Sustains strength, constitution.
Prevents paralysis.
f) The Palantir of Westernesse (+2)
+2 intelligence, wisdom, infravision.
+10% to searching.
Provides resistance to blindness, chaos.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Grants telepathy.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Aggravates creatures nearby.
Drains experience.
It can be activated.
Radius 3 light.
g) The Augmented Chain Mail of Caspanion (-2) [16,+20] (+3)
+3 intelligence, wisdom, constitution.
Provides resistance to acid, poison, confusion.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
It can be activated.
h) a Cloak of Protection [1,+29]
Provides resistance to shards.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
i) The Small Metal Shield of Thorin [4,+25] (+4)
+4 strength, constitution.
Provides immunity to acid.
Provides resistance to fear, sound, chaos.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.
j) The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth [0,+7] (+125)
+125 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution,
charisma, infravision.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison,
fear,
light, dark, confusion, nexus, nether.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Grants telepathy.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Radius 1 light.
k) The Set of Caestus of Fingolfin (+10,+10) [5,+20] (+4)
+4 dexterity.
Provides resistance to acid.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.
It can be activated.
l) a Pair of Steel Shod Boots of Speed [6,+12] (+8)
+8 speed.
[Character Inventory]
a) a Holy Book of Prayers [Beginners Handbook] {@m1@b1}
b) 2 Holy Books of Prayers [Words of Wisdom] {@m2@b2}
c) a Holy Book of Prayers [Chants and Blessings] {@m3@b3}
d) 2 Holy Books of Prayers [Exorcism and Dispelling] {@m4@b4}
e) 4 Holy Books of Prayers [Ethereal Openings] {@m5@b5}
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
f) 3 Holy Books of Prayers [Godly Insights] {@m6@b6}
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
g) 2 Holy Books of Prayers [Purifications and Healing] {@m7@b7}
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
h) 2 Holy Books of Prayers [Holy Infusions] {@m8@b8}
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
i) 2 Holy Books of Prayers [Wrath of God] {@m9@b9}
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
j) 26 Potions of Healing
k) a Potion of Life
It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
l) 22 Potions of Restore Mana
m) 13 Scrolls of Teleport Level
n) a Scroll of Banishment
o) 2 Rods of Speed
Cannot be harmed by electricity.
p) 4 Wands of Clone Monster (14 charges)
q) The Cloak 'Colannon' [1,+15] (+3)
+3 stealth, speed.
Provides resistance to nexus.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
It can be activated.
r) a Cloak of Protection [1,+17]
Provides resistance to shards.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
s) The Long Sword 'Ringil' (4d5) (+22,+25) (+10 speed)
+10 speed.
Slays evil creatures, undead, trolls.
*Slays* demons.
Branded with frost.
Provides resistance to cold, fear, light.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Blessed by the gods.
Slows your metabolism.
Speeds regeneration.
Prevents paralysis.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
It can be activated.
Combat info:
4 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 106.6 vs. evil creatures, 120.4 vs. undead,
120.4 vs. trolls, 120.4 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, 148
vs. demons, and 92.8 vs. others.
Radius 1 light.
t) The Light Crossbow 'Cubragol' (x3) (+10,+14) (+10)
+10 speed.
Branded with flames.
Provides resistance to fire.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
[Home Inventory]
a) 5 Potions of *Healing*
It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
b) 12 Potions of Life
It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
c) 20 Scrolls of Teleport Level
d) a Ring of Speed (+13)
+13 speed.
e) a Ring of Speed (+12)
+12 speed.
f) The Ring of Power 'Narya' (+6,+6) (+1)
+1 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution,
charisma, speed.
Provides immunity to fire.
Provides resistance to fire, fear.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains strength, constitution.
Slows your metabolism.
Speeds regeneration.
Prevents paralysis.
Grants telepathy.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
It can be activated.
g) The Ring of Power 'Nenya' (+8,+8) (+2)
+2 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution,
charisma, speed.
Provides immunity to cold.
Provides resistance to cold, blindness.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains intelligence, wisdom, constitution.
Feather Falling.
Speeds regeneration.
Prevents paralysis.
Stops experience drain.
Grants telepathy.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
It can be activated.
h) an Amulet of Trickery (+4)
+4 dexterity, stealth, infravision, speed.
+20% to searching.
Provides resistance to poison, nexus.
Sustains dexterity.
i) The Necklace of the Dwarves (+3)
+3 strength, constitution, infravision.
Provides resistance to fear.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Speeds regeneration.
Prevents paralysis.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Radius 1 light.
j) The Elfstone 'Elessar' (+7,+7) [+10] (+2)
+2 strength, wisdom, charisma, speed.
Provides resistance to fire, poison, fear.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
It can be activated.
k) The Mithril Plate Mail of Celeborn (-3) [35,+25] (+4)
+4 strength, charisma.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, dark,
disenchantment.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
It can be activated.
l) The Adamantite Plate Mail 'Soulkeeper' (-4) [40,+20] (+2)
+2 constitution.
Provides resistance to acid, cold, fear, dark, confusion, nexus,
nether, chaos.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains constitution.
Stops experience drain.
It can be activated.
m) The Hard Leather Armour of Himring [8,+15]
Provides resistance to poison, nether, chaos.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
It can be activated.
n) The Cloak of Thorongil [1,+10]
Provides resistance to acid, fear.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
o) The Mithril Shield of Gil-galad [10,+20] (+5)
+5 wisdom, charisma.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, dark, disenchantment.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains wisdom, dexterity, charisma.
It can be activated.
Radius 1 light.
p) The Golden Crown of Gondor [0,+15] (+3)
+3 strength, wisdom, constitution, speed.
Provides resistance to fire, cold, light, blindness, confusion,
sound, chaos.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Speeds regeneration.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
It can be activated.
Radius 1 light.
q) The Jewel Encrusted Crown of Numenor [0,+18] (+3)
+3 intelligence, dexterity, charisma, speed.
+15% to searching.
Provides resistance to cold, light, dark, blindness, sound,
shards.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Radius 1 light.
r) The Metal Cap of Celebrimbor [3,+18] (+3 searching)
+3 intelligence, dexterity, charisma.
+15% to searching.
Provides resistance to acid, fire, shards, disenchantment.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
s) The Executioner's Sword 'Crisdurian' (4d5) (+18,+19)
Slays evil creatures, undead, orcs, trolls, giants, dragons.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Combat info:
4 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 100 vs. evil creatures, 114.4 vs. undead,
114.4 vs. orcs, 114.4 vs. trolls, 114.4 vs. giants, 114.4 vs.
dragons, and 85.6 vs. others.
t) The Blade of Chaos 'Doomcaller' (6d5) (+18,+28) [-50]
Slays animals, evil creatures, demons, trolls.
*Slays* dragons.
Branded with frost.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, chaos.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.
Grants telepathy.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Aggravates creatures nearby.
Combat info:
4 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 122.5 vs. animals, 122.5 vs. evil creatures,
143.4 vs. demons, 143.4 vs. trolls, 143.4 vs. creatures not
resistant to cold, 185.2 vs. dragons, and 101.6 vs. others.
u) The Trident of Ulmo (4d8) (+15,+19) (+4)
+4 dexterity.
Slays animals, dragons.
Provides immunity to acid.
Provides resistance to acid, nether.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Blessed by the gods.
Slows your metabolism.
Speeds regeneration.
Prevents paralysis.
Stops experience drain.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
It can be activated.
Combat info:
4 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 111.8 vs. animals, 131.9 vs. dragons, and
91.6
vs. others.
v) The Two-Handed Great Flail 'Thunderfist' (4d6) (+7,+18) (+4)
+4 strength, constitution.
Slays animals, orcs, trolls.
Branded with lightning, flames.
Provides resistance to lightning, fire, fear, dark.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Combat info:
4 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 106.1 vs. animals, 123 vs. orcs, 123 vs.
trolls, 123 vs. creatures not resistant to electricity, 123 vs.
creatures not resistant to fire, and 89.1 vs. others.
w) The Mace 'Taratol' (3d4) (+12,+12)
*Slays* dragons.
Branded with lightning.
Provides immunity to lightning.
Provides resistance to lightning.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
It can be activated.
Combat info:
4 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 90.7 vs. creatures not resistant to
electricity, 108.2 vs. dragons, and 73.1 vs. others.
x) The Mattock of Nain (2d8) (+12,+18) (+6 searching)
+6 strength, infravision, tunneling.
+30% to searching.
Slays orcs, trolls, giants, dragons.
Provides resistance to dark, disenchantment.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
It can be activated.
Combat info:
4 blows/round.
Average damage/hit: 103.9 vs. orcs, 103.9 vs. trolls, 103.9 vs.
giants, 103.9 vs. dragons, and 82.5 vs. others.
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CHAR.
| TURN | DEPTH |LEVEL| EVENT
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1 0' 1 Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
4897 50' 2 Reached level 2
16886 50' 3 Reached level 3
22291 0' 3 Killed Farmer Maggot
30446 100' 3 Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
30446 100' 4 Reached level 4
46432 300' 5 Reached level 5
47977 300' 6 Reached level 6
61746 400' 7 Reached level 7
69480 450' 8 Reached level 8
88050 450' 9 Reached level 9
94067 450' 10 Reached level 10
103578 500' 11 Reached level 11
128577 550' 12 Reached level 12
139896 650' 13 Reached level 13
144732 650' 14 Reached level 14
151724 750' 15 Reached level 15
162429 800' 16 Reached level 16
171049 900' 17 Reached level 17
174782 900' 17 Killed Brodda, the Easterling
182713 900' 18 Reached level 18
186734 950' 19 Reached level 19
200387 950' 20 Reached level 20
222998 1100' 21 Reached level 21
254828 1150' 22 Reached level 22
268311 1150' 23 Reached level 23
302902 1350' 24 Reached level 24
321580 1400' 25 Reached level 25
339810 1400' 25 Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
339949 1400' 25 Found The Spear 'Nimloth' (LOST)
361848 1450' 25 Found The Rapier 'Careth Asdriag' (LOST)
375706 1650' 26 Reached level 26
428072 1700' 27 Reached level 27
449379 1750' 27 Found The Main Gauche of Maedhros (LOST)
452555 1750' 28 Reached level 28
453417 1750' 28 Killed Angamaite of Umbar
469032 1750' 28 Found The Short Bow of Amrod (LOST)
469888 1750' 28 Killed Draebor, the Imp
476763 1750' 28 Found The Dagger 'Narthanc' (LOST)
484241 0' 28 Found The Phial of Galadriel (LOST)
490178 1750' 28 Killed Smeagol
493283 1750' 28 Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
493536 1750' 28 Found The Lucerne Hammer 'Turmil' (LOST)
498444 1750' 29 Reached level 29
501213 1750' 29 Killed Beorn, the Shape-Changer
502502 1750' 29 Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
507456 1800' 29 Found The Soft Leather Armour
'Hithlomir' (LOST)
520592 1800' 29 Found The Set of Gauntlets
'Pauraegen' (LOST)
524304 1800' 29 Killed Boldor, King of the Yeeks
525062 1800' 30 Reached level 30
526772 1800' 30 Killed Orfax, Son of Boldor
540451 2000' 30 Killed Khim, Son of Mim
550409 2000' 31 Reached level 31
568690 2300' 31 Found The Mace 'Taratol'
580895 2600' 32 Reached level 32
589559 2650' 32 Killed Kavlax the Many-Headed
603619 2800' 32 Killed Ibun, Son of Mim
616682 2900' 32 Found The Metal Brigandine Armour of the
Rohirrim (LOST)
618862 2900' 32 Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang
623650 2900' 32 Found The Short Sword 'Sting' (LOST)
630039 3050' 32 Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach' (LOST)
639884 3150' 33 Reached level 33
651459 3250' 33 Killed Grishnakh, the Hill Orc
675678 3300' 33 Found The Leather Shield of Celegorm (LOST)
679874 3350' 33 Killed Castamir the Usurper
681504 3350' 33 Killed Scatha the Worm
685369 3350' 33 Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord
685540 3350' 33 Found The Chain Mail of Arvedui (LOST)
687584 3350' 33 Killed Ulfang the Black
690416 3350' 33 Killed Smaug the Golden
690416 3350' 34 Reached level 34
691081 3350' 34 Killed The Balrog of Moria
697280 3350' 34 Killed Tom the Stone Troll
698962 3350' 35 Reached level 35
701417 3350' 35 Killed Nar, the Dwarf
703528 3400' 35 Killed The Queen Ant
713483 3550' 35 Found The Metal Cap of Celebrimbor
716725 3550' 35 Found The Iron Helm of Gorlim (LOST)
718145 3550' 35 Killed Shelob, Spider of Darkness
720975 3550' 35 Found The Full Plate Armour of Isildur
(LOST)
725656 3600' 35 Killed Ji Indur Dawndeath
725656 3600' 36 Reached level 36
730563 3600' 36 Found The Broad Axe 'Barukkheled' (LOST)
735103 3650' 36 Found The Katana 'Aglarang' (LOST)
739672 3700' 36 Killed Adunaphel the Quiet
751132 3800' 36 Killed Ariel, Queen of Air
754342 3850' 36 Killed Uldor the Accursed
761485 3900' 36 Found The Hard Leather Cap of Thranduil
(LOST)
771032 4000' 36 Killed Qlzqqlzuup, the Emperor Quylthulg
771032 4000' 37 Reached level 37
776651 4000' 37 Found The Dagger 'Dethanc' (LOST)
777404 4000' 37 Found The Quarterstaff 'Nar-i-vagil' (LOST)
784830 4050' 37 Killed Ren the Unclean
788025 4050' 37 Killed Saruman of Many Colours
788273 4050' 37 Found The Amulet 'Evenstar' (LOST)
788303 4050' 37 Found The Pair of Leather Boots 'Dal-i-
thalion' (LOST)
788336 4050' 37 Found The Flail 'Totila' (LOST)
794193 4100' 37 Found The Cutlass 'Gondricam' (LOST)
799587 4250' 37 Killed Eol, the Dark Elf
799587 4250' 38 Reached level 38
803798 4250' 38 Killed Mim, Betrayer of Turin
816515 4400' 38 Found The Ring of Barahir (LOST)
818492 4500' 38 Found The Metal Cap of Thengel (LOST)
825684 4500' 39 Reached level 39
829630 4500' 39 Found The Amulet of Carlammas (LOST)
829894 4500' 39 Found The Mithril Shield of Gil-galad
832662 4500' 39 Found The Halberd 'Osondir' (LOST)
834933 4500' 39 Found The Leather Scale Mail
'Thalkettoth' (LOST)
837516 4500' 39 Found The Quarterstaff 'Eriril' (LOST)
841789 4500' 39 Found The Light Crossbow 'Cubragol'
841855 4500' 39 Found The Dagger 'Nimthanc' (LOST)
857637 4500' 39 Found The Set of Gauntlets
'Paurnimmen' (LOST)
866143 4550' 40 Reached level 40
871542 4550' 40 Found The Leather Shield of the Haradrim
(LOST)
880611 4650' 40 Found The Battle Axe 'Lotharang' (LOST)
883719 4650' 40 Found The Iron Helm of Dor-Lomin (LOST)
885717 4700' 40 Killed Lugdush, the Uruk
892360 4750' 40 Killed Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain
894484 4750' 40 Killed Ar-Pharazon the Golden
894516 4750' 40 Found The Broad Sword 'Glamdring' (LOST)
906030 4850' 40 Killed Khamul, the Black Easterling
906256 4850' 40 Found The Augmented Chain Mail of Caspanion
911757 4850' 40 Killed Itangast the Fire Drake
914328 4850' 40 Found The Morning Star 'Firestar' (LOST)
916150 4850' 41 Reached level 41
916180 4850' 41 Found The Set of Leather Gloves
'Cambeleg' (LOST)
924250 4900' 41 Killed Atlas, the Titan
931669 4900' 41 Killed Lagduf, the Snaga
934467 4900' 41 Found The Broad Sword 'Orcrist' (LOST)
943193 4850' 41 Found The Set of Caestus of Fingolfin
947455 4900' 41 Killed Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw
948981 4900' 41 Found The Small Metal Shield of Thorin
950660 4900' 41 Found The Iron Helm 'Holhenneth' (LOST)
951232 4900' 41 Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurnen' (LOST)
951402 4900' 41 Found The Two-Handed Great Flail
'Thunderfist'
955971 4900' 42 Reached level 42
956330 4900' 42 Killed Bolg, Son of Azog
959247 4900' 42 Found The Palantir of Westernesse
959576 4900' 42 Found The Mattock of Nain
959627 4900' 42 Found The Star of Elendil (LOST)
959849 4900' 42 Found The Set of Leather Gloves
'Cammithrim' (LOST)
963150 4900' 42 Found The Long Sword 'Elvagil' (LOST)
968235 4900' 42 Killed Medusa, the Gorgon
970775 4900' 42 Found The Beaked Axe of Hurin (LOST)
972244 4900' 42 Killed Akhorahil the Blind
973231 4900' 42 Found The Main Gauche of Azaghal (LOST)
978574 4900' 42 Killed Glaurung, Father of the Dragons
980953 4900' 42 Found The Amulet of the Dwarves
981412 4900' 43 Reached level 43
987174 4900' 43 Killed The Phoenix
988691 4900' 43 Killed Cantoras, the Skeletal Lord
992627 4900' 43 Killed The Witch-King of Angmar
992729 4900' 42 Killed Hoarmurath of Dir
992742 4900' 42 Killed Uvatha the Horseman
995367 4900' 43 Killed Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops
996691 4950' 43 Killed Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin
996847 4950' 43 Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain
996852 4950' 43 Found The Ring of Power 'Narya'
998940 4950' 43 Killed Ugluk, the Uruk
999686 4950' 43 Killed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
999686 4950' 44 Reached level 44
1001301 4950' 44 Killed The Lernaean Hydra
1004212 4950' 44 Killed Feagwath, the Undead Sorcerer
1013057 4950' 44 Killed Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings
1017544 4950' 44 Killed Kronos, Lord of the Titans
1019106 4950' 44 Killed Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs
1021098 4950' 44 Killed Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
1028414 4950' 44 Killed Sauron, the Sorcerer
1034721 4950' 44 Killed Bert the Stone Troll
1034906 4950' 45 Reached level 45
1035124 4950' 45 Killed The Mouth of Sauron
1035129 4950' 45 Found The Ring of Tulkas (LOST)
1037979 4950' 45 Found The Arkenstone of Thrain (LOST)
1042746 5000' 45 Found The Heavy Crossbow of Umbar (LOST)
1042867 5000' 45 Found The Trident of Ulmo
1042932 5000' 45 Found The Set of Gauntlets of Eol (LOST)
1042976 5000' 45 Found The Spear of Melkor (LOST)
1045299 5000' 45 Killed Baphomet the Minotaur Lord
1045357 5000' 45 Found The Rapier 'Forasgil' (LOST)
1045832 5000' 45 Killed Waldern, King of Water
1047180 5000' 45 Killed Ungoliant, the Unlight
1052187 4950' 45 Killed Uriel, Angel of Fire
1054127 4950' 45 Found The Pair of Leather Boots of
Wormtongue (LOST)
1054854 4950' 45 Found The Large Metal Shield of Anarion
(LOST)
1054857 4950' 45 Found The Battle Axe of Balli Stonehand
(LOST)
1060468 4950' 45 Killed The Tarrasque
1060468 4950' 46 Reached level 46
1062196 4950' 46 Found The Short Bow of Amras (LOST)
1064973 4950' 46 Killed Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves
1070341 4950' 46 Found The Scythe 'Avavir' (LOST)
1071794 4950' 46 Killed Pazuzu, Lord of Air
1072413 4950' 46 Killed Quaker, Master of Earth
1072426 4950' 46 Killed Bill the Stone Troll
1073330 4950' 46 Killed Vargo, Tyrant of Fire
1073814 4950' 46 Found The Long Bow 'Belthronding' (LOST)
1075212 4950' 46 Killed Vecna, the Emperor Lich
1075212 4950' 47 Reached level 47
1078672 4950' 47 Killed Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
1079354 5000' 47 Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
1080512 4950' 47 Found The Scimitar 'Haradekket' (LOST)
1081087 4950' 47 Found The Zweihander 'Mormegil' (LOST)
1084866 4950' 47 Killed Azriel, Angel of Death
1087699 4950' 47 Found The Amulet of Ingwe (LOST)
1088296 4950' 47 Killed Harowen the Black Hand
1091590 4950' 47 Killed Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir
1092275 4950' 47 Killed Rogrog the Black Troll
1094891 4950' 47 Killed Gabriel, the Messenger
1095670 4950' 47 Killed Omarax, the Eye Tyrant
1099395 4950' 47 Killed Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang
1100989 4950' 47 Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
1105862 4950' 47 Killed Tselakus, the Dreadlord
1105862 4950' 48 Reached level 48
1106999 4950' 48 Found The Dagger 'Belangil' (LOST)
1111242 4950' 48 Killed Ancalagon the Black
1114932 4950' 48 Killed Fundin Bluecloak
1122793 4950' 48 Found The Bastard Sword 'Calris' (LOST)
1123855 4950' 48 Killed The Cat Lord
1124589 4950' 48 Killed Huan, Wolfhound of the Valar
1129236 4950' 49 Reached level 49
1129281 4950' 49 Found The Mithril Chain Mail
'Belegennon' (LOST)
1129573 4950' 49 Found The Ring of Power 'Nenya'
1133610 4950' 49 Found The Executioner's Sword 'Crisdurian'
1134720 4950' 49 Found The Ball-and-Chain of Fundin Bluecloak
(LOST)
1134865 4950' 49 Found The Dagger of Rilia (LOST)
1137541 4950' 49 Found The Short Sword 'Dagmor' (LOST)
1138890 4950' 49 Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain
1139809 4950' 49 Found The Pair of Steel Shod Boots of Thror
(LOST)
1143560 5000' 49 Killed Bullroarer the Hobbit
1144147 5000' 49 Killed Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
1144158 5000' 49 Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
1144172 5000' 49 Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
1144512 5000' 49 Found The Cloak of Thorongil
1147486 5000' 49 Found The Spear of Orome (LOST)
1150929 5150' 50 Reached level 50
1155110 5150' 50 Found The Trident of Wrath (LOST)
1171079 6050' 50 Found The Long Bow of Bard (LOST)
1172722 6100' 50 Found The Lance of Eorlingas (LOST)
1183795 6350' 50 Found The Pick of Erebor (LOST)
1184897 6350' 50 Found The Lochaber Axe 'Mundwine' (LOST)
1187889 6350' 50 Found The Steel Helm of Hammerhand (LOST)
1188485 6350' 50 Found The Hard Leather Armour of Himring
1191837 6350' 50 Found The Blade of Chaos 'Doomcaller'
1192435 6350' 50 Found The Long Sword 'Ringil'
1203894 6350' 50 Killed Azog, King of the Uruk-Hai
1206581 6350' 50 Found The Golden Crown of Gondor
1211606 6350' 50 Found The Cloak of Thingol (LOST)
1211707 6350' 50 Found The Iron Crown of Beruthiel (LOST)
1216433 6350' 50 Found The Mithril Plate Mail of Celeborn
1224276 6350' 50 Found The Jewel Encrusted Crown of Numenor
1229953 6350' 50 Found The Adamantite Plate Mail 'Soulkeeper'
1230678 6350' 50 Found The Amulet 'Elessar'
1265473 6350' 50 Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Camlost' (LOST)
1278012 6350' 50 Found The Cloak 'Colannon'
1280099 6350' 50 Found The Ring of Power 'The One Ring'
[Options]
Maximize effect of race/class bonuses : yes (adult_maximize)
Randomize some of the artifacts (beta) : no (adult_randarts)
Restrict the use of stairs/recall : no (adult_ironman)
Restrict the use of stores/home : no (adult_no_stores)
Restrict creation of artifacts : no
(adult_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor : no (adult_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level : no (adult_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs : no (adult_no_stairs)
Adult: Monsters chase current location : yes (adult_ai_sound)
Adult: Monsters chase recent locations : yes (adult_ai_smell)
Adult: Monsters act smarter in groups : yes (adult_ai_packs)
Adult: Monsters learn from their mistakes : no (adult_ai_learn)
Adult: Monsters exploit players weaknesses : no (adult_ai_cheat)
Adult: Monsters behave more intelligently (broken): no
(adult_ai_smart)
Score: Peek into object creation : no (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation : no (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation : no (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else : no (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info : no (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death : no (score_live)
lcc
> Ah ha!!!!
>
> 1230678 6350' 50 Found The Amulet 'Elessar'
> 1265473 6350' 50 Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Camlost' (LOST)
> 1278012 6350' 50 Found The Cloak 'Colannon'
> 1280099 6350' 50 Found The Ring of Power 'The One Ring'
>
> Holy @*$!, it's fun walking around with the One Ring and Grond!
>
As the door says in "Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" - "Pleased to
be of service". You should post your dump at :
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder.php
Lonnie Courtney Clay
Timo Pietilä
> [Angband 3.1.1 dev Character Dump]
> a) The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+6)
I see that Grond is still buggy in your version. It should be (+5,+25).
> c) The Ring of Power 'The One Ring' (+15,+15) (+5) {cursed}
> Provides immunity to acid, lightning, fire, cold.
> Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison,
There is redundant information. If you have immunity, you don't need
resist. Should not have both. Looking at artifact.txt it seems that The
One Ring has both, even that those resists are not used.
In fact it looks like there are duplicates in most items with immunity:
Razorback, Tuor, Eonwe, Ulmo, Taratol, Deathwreaker, Narya, Nenya, Vilya
and The One Ring have both immunities and resists but Thorin, Gothmog
and Azaghal have only immunities.
Timo Pietil�
Timo Pietilä
Looks like I need to get busy making my own variant. There are few quite
annoying but small things that are easy to fix.
First thing to change is to make Chaos #1 high element again instead of
nether, and restore its side-effect immunities including other effects
causing them (both XP drain from nether and confusion from confusion
should be prevented by chaos resist, but not damage from those sources).
Then to tweak monsters and items.
Too bad I'm not coder, current vanilla code is much harder to understand
than Robert code was. I need time to figure out what certain parts of
code do and how to change them without breaking something.
Timo Pietil�
Magnate
> dve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [Angband 3.1.1 dev Character Dump]
>
>> a) The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+6)
>
> I see that Grond is still buggy in your version. It should be (+5,+25).
Yes. I reopened the ticket for this at trac.rephial.org - I can't check the
number from work, but the title is "Morgoth arts messed up". Nobody
understands why it happens, as the code to force production of Grond and the
crown seems to be fine.
CC
Stefan O'Rear
> "Timo Pietilä" <timo.p...@helsinki.fi> wrote
Are we sure he's not running svn from before I fixed it?
IMO, we should include rXYWZ in all game version reports (even stable)
so that it's obvious whether bugs need to be reopened.
-sorear
Timo Pietilä
If that appears every time it should be easy to test: just Create Troll
Warrior, activate debug-mode, make that Warrior clvl50 with maxed stats,
create impossible gear you need in order to kill M and jump to dlvl 100.
(something like PDSM, The One Ring, Thorin, Dor-Lomin and Fingolfin,
Mace of Disruption of fury (5d8) (+100,+100) (+10), Rings of Acid and
Lightning, BoS +50 and 99 potions of life, 50 scrolls of mass banishment
and *destruction* and 20 rods of teleport other)
I can do that today for rev1500 (not just now though).
Timo Pietilä
dve...@gmail.com
> On 2009-07-16, Magnate <n...@receiving.here> wrote:
>
> >> dves...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> [Angband 3.1.1 dev Character Dump]
>
> >>> a) The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+6)
>
> >> I see that Grond is still buggy in your version. It should be (+5,+25).
>
> > Yes. I reopened the ticket for this at trac.rephial.org - I can't check the
> > number from work, but the title is "Morgoth arts messed up". Nobody
> > understands why it happens, as the code to force production of Grond and the
> > crown seems to be fine.
>
> Are we sure he's not running svn from before I fixed it?
I was using the 3.1.0 official release, not a nightly build. It was a
pretty old one, old enough that it had some pretty big bugs (like
inability to unwield an uncursed Calris).
Timo Pietilä
> Stefan O'Rear wrote:
>> On 2009-07-16, Magnate <n...@receiving.here> wrote:
Tested. Morgoth arts looks like to be OK. At least when killed in
debug-mode using heavily modified extra blows mace of disruption of
extra blows.
Timo Pietil�
pete m
This is a real problem: there has not been a patch on 3.1.0, despite
several serious bugs being found. I play the dev branch 3.1.1, though
I don't update very often. This has it's own problems: game balance
remains worse than in 3.1.0
Timo Pietilä
> On Jul 16, 5:40 am, "dves...@gmail.com" <dves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 16, 7:40 am, Stefan O'Rear <stefa...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2009-07-16, Magnate <n...@receiving.here> wrote:
>>>>> dves...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> [Angband 3.1.1 dev Character Dump]
>>>>>> a) The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+6)
>>>>> I see that Grond is still buggy in your version. It should be (+5,+25).
>>>> Yes. I reopened the ticket for this at trac.rephial.org - I can't check the
>>>> number from work, but the title is "Morgoth arts messed up". Nobody
>>>> understands why it happens, as the code to force production of Grond and the
>>>> crown seems to be fine.
>>> Are we sure he's not running svn from before I fixed it?
>> I was using the 3.1.0 official release, not a nightly build. It was a
>> pretty old one, old enough that it had some pretty big bugs (like
>> inability to unwield an uncursed Calris).
>
> This is a real problem: there has not been a patch on 3.1.0, despite
> several serious bugs being found. I play the dev branch 3.1.1, though
> I don't update very often. This has it's own problems: game balance
> remains worse than in 3.1.0
Radical idea: how about if dev-team stops "developing" and concentrate
on fixing bugs and balancing things up?
3.1.1 dev is quite good as it is, except that there are several bugs
(none of the extremely bad game-stopper bugs that 3.1.0 beta has though)
and balance is off currently. Many things in balance is only matter of
editing edit-files. You can change game pretty drastically just by
changing things in monster.txt, object.txt, ego-item.txt and
artifact.txt. (BTW. edit files help in beginning of each file needs
correcting because syntax of things have changed)
My suggestion is to reduce {good} drops from monsters and replace them
with ordinary drops. Make some drops to be huge again. Make stat-potions
more common.
If you look at older versions before JLE changes {good} and {excellent}
drops were *MUCH* rarer.
People editing game have been making it easier so long that game balance
has gone out of the window. Every small change in game has made it
slightly easier. I don't recall any changes that has made game harder.
And there has been huge amount of those small changes. Many of those
changes were in theory quite good, but consequences of those changes
were not thoroughly though over and changes in related areas were not done.
Timo Pietil�
Nick McConnell
> pete m wrote:
>> This is a real problem: there has not been a patch on 3.1.0, despite
>> several serious bugs being found. I play the dev branch 3.1.1, though
>> I don't update very often. This has it's own problems: game balance
>> remains worse than in 3.1.0
>
> Radical idea: how about if dev-team stops "developing" and concentrate
> on fixing bugs and balancing things up?
The plan (at least as far as I understand it) is that 3.0.9b is the last
stable version. The whole 3.1.x series is to be labelled 'beta', and
all the big changes are happening now; none of this series is expected
to be properly balanced. So currently, for players, the choice is to
play the old, but stable version, or the new, but less stable, version.
This can, of course, be a bit frustrating for people who want the new
stuff _and_ stability. On the other hand, I'm sure that somebody who
cared enough could patch 3.1.0 with the fixes currently in 3.1.1dev. I
would tend to argue, though, that the people who are currently working
on getting the dev version toward a new, stable state are better
employed doing that than fixing 3.1.0.
Nick.
Timo Pietilä
Problem with 3.1.0 beta is that it is main download in rephial.org in
both main "play" -page and in "releases" -page, so people download it,
not the older stable release. Either remove that main download status
from that beta-version or release fixed version of 3.1.0.
There are two main problems to fix in 3.1.0beta: Heavy Curses are in
reality permanent (dispel curse, enchanting to break curse and *remove
curse* say that they removed the curse, but nothing happens) which is
game-stopper bad bug (easy to fix though, one-liner) and Morgoth Arts
are messed up (which doesn't really matter much). Also branding rings do
not give info that they give brand to melee-weapons, but that is minor.
At least that Heavy Curse -bug should be fixed, because it effectively
makes Calris and other Heavy Curse -items unwieldable and your game gets
ruined for good. Even crash is better because those don't usually mess
your savefile.
Timo Pietil�
Nick McConnell
> Problem with 3.1.0 beta is that it is main download in rephial.org in
> both main "play" -page and in "releases" -page, so people download it,
> not the older stable release. Either remove that main download status
> from that beta-version or release fixed version of 3.1.0.
Agreed - someone should do something about it. Someone! Do something!
Nick.
Someone
You rang?
Magnate
My understanding is that as soon as Takkaria incorporates the remainder of
Eddie's ID changes, he intends to release 3.1.1. Many are already done in
trunk, but Eddie sent a *lot*, and I think there are several left to
include.
At that point 3.1.0 will be replaced by 3.1.1 as the main download, and it
should certainly be an improved experience all round. Yes there are bound to
be some balance issues because there are major changes to ID and shopping,
but the obvious flaws of 3.1.0 (not enough stat potions, too many ego items)
have been fixed.
So with a bit of luck we should see 3.1.1 in a matter of weeks now.
Then I can get on with breaking trunk again.
CC
Timo Pietilä
> "Nick McConnell" <nckmc...@yahoo.com.au> wrote
>> Timo Pietil� wrote:
>>
>>> Problem with 3.1.0 beta is that it is main download in rephial.org in
>>> both main "play" -page and in "releases" -page, so people download
>>> it, not the older stable release. Either remove that main download
>>> status from that beta-version or release fixed version of 3.1.0.
>>
>> Agreed - someone should do something about it. Someone! Do something!
>>
>> Nick.
>
> My understanding is that as soon as Takkaria incorporates the remainder
> of Eddie's ID changes, he intends to release 3.1.1. Many are already
> done in trunk, but Eddie sent a *lot*, and I think there are several
> left to include.
Those are only coding changes. He also said to me that he will check and
fix some balance-issues by going thru monster list, and that should take
more time (unless he practically needs to recode everything Eddie did).
Timo Pietil�
Nick McConnell
> Problem with 3.1.0 beta is that it is main download in rephial.org in
> both main "play" -page and in "releases" -page, so people download it,
> not the older stable release. Either remove that main download status
> from that beta-version or release fixed version of 3.1.0.
Update on this - takkaria has changed the front of rephial.org so that
it gives the option of downloading 3.0.9b or 3.1.0 (beta).
Nick.
pete m
> Magnate wrote:
> > "Nick McConnell" <nckmccn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote
There is one MAJOR balance issue in 3.1.1: stats are even harder to
come by than in 3.1.0, because you only gain 1 point per potion.
Please, please, please, revert this change prior to releasing 3.1.1.
I understand that there's a long term plan for stats, but in a real
release, the change to weaker stat potions needs to be atomic with a
counterbalancing effect.
Timo Pietilä
Noticed that when I downloaded 3.1.0beta again in order to check if that
game-ruining curse-bug has been corrected or not. It hasn't.
This update-policy takkaria is using needs correcting. Even if milestone
is finished it should get fixes for bugs if next release is weeks away.
This 3.1.0 beta is over half year old now. BUG FIXES. Not development.
All releases until next is released should get bug fixes, and if next
release is more badly unbalanced even after that.
Timo Pietil�
Andi Sidwell
> There is one MAJOR balance issue in 3.1.1: stats are even harder to
> come by than in 3.1.0, because you only gain 1 point per potion.
> Please, please, please, revert this change prior to releasing 3.1.1.
> I understand that there's a long term plan for stats, but in a real
> release, the change to weaker stat potions needs to be atomic with a
> counterbalancing effect.
Done.
Andi
Andi Sidwell
> Andi Sidwell wrote:
>> On 2009-07-17 09:22, Timo Pietil� wrote:
>
>>> My suggestion is to reduce {good} drops from monsters and replace them
>>> with ordinary drops. Make some drops to be huge again. Make stat-potions
>>> more common.
>
>> adding vulnerabilities to some monsters and adding some different
>> resistances to others, so as I go through and add those, I will tweak
>> overall drops too.
>
> While you do that I would like to urge you to reconsider rings that
> brand weapons. They are diminishing several Artifacts to
> near-uselessness. I mean, who would use Taratol if they can have
> ordinary Blade of Chaos and brand it with a ring? Brands used to mean
> something. In fact in _old_ days when most things were better balanced
> acid and poison brands didn't even exist and elec brand was x5 brand.
> Also kill-slays were limited to kill dragon.
> [...]
>
> I would rather see those branding-rings replaced with immunity-rings,
> but that could make killing wyrms too easy. This is YABalanceBraking
> small change I was talking about. It is designed to make game easier,
> but nothing to compensate was added. Actually there is no possible way
> to compensate this.
It actually wasn't changed to make the game easier; it was changed to
make elemental rings have some purpose, and to increase the variety of
gear people could make meaningful choices about. I think there's a fair
range of opinion on whether it's worked or not. I'll be looking again
at these in the balace-up of 3.1.2, though, possibly removing, or
possibly toning down the multipler they use.
Andi
Wally the Grey
That there is controversy over whether those rings are now overpowered
seems to me to mean that it worked. The controversy is that it may have
worked too well.