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How to use smithing most efficient?

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Andreas Grates

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Dec 31, 2002, 7:30:11 AM12/31/02
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And another question:
I seem to fail in finding a good documentation on the manyfold uses of
smithing! Can anyone out there tell stupid me what's all hidden behind
the humble name 'Smithing' (and how it's done)?
OK, I know you need a hammer, an anvil, ingots and a forge, and I know
what you can do to ore. I know how to improve things via smithing. But
is that really all about it? (Granted, it's quite a big /all/ :-))

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Stephen White

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Dec 31, 2002, 8:31:25 AM12/31/02
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Andreas Grates wrote:

> I seem to fail in finding a good documentation on the manyfold uses of
> smithing! Can anyone out there tell stupid me what's all hidden behind
> the humble name 'Smithing' (and how it's done)?

> OK, I know you need a hammer, an anvil, ingots and a forge, and I know
> what you can do to ore. I know how to improve things via smithing. But
> is that really all about it? (Granted, it's quite a big /all/ :-))

About. You can also remove rust from things. The main purpose of
smithing is to improve your equipment substantially. With a PC
properly skilled in it (i.e. a Weaponsmith) you can get truly
great equipment. Here are some of the items a recent weaponsmith
of mine (sadly departed on D50) had:

tower eternium shield (+2) [+17, +4]
gauntlets of strength (-1, +0) [+8, +7] {St+5}
heavy crossbow of accuracy (+9, +12)
mithril cap [+6, +10]
adamantium mace of penetration (+8, 1d6+8) [+2, +0]

He had DV/PV of 91/72, on very aggressive tactics.

If you are looking for some tips on being successful at smithing,
rather than it's overall use, let me know and I will post a few.

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Andreas Grates

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Dec 31, 2002, 9:13:17 AM12/31/02
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Stephen White wrote:

[snipping general and nice collection items]


>
> If you are looking for some tips on being successful at smithing,
> rather than it's overall use, let me know and I will post a few.
>

Some tips would come in handy. And I don't think that taking some good
advice is cheating.
I'll think I try some weaponsmith-chars next. I never considered them
really a choice for that damn 1000s-thing they carry around.

Stephen White

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Dec 31, 2002, 10:35:40 AM12/31/02
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Andreas Grates wrote:

> Stephen White wrote:
>
> [snipping general and nice collection items]
> >
> > If you are looking for some tips on being successful at smithing,
> > rather than it's overall use, let me know and I will post a few.
>
> Some tips would come in handy. And I don't think that taking some good
> advice is cheating.
> I'll think I try some weaponsmith-chars next. I never considered them
> really a choice for that damn 1000s-thing they carry around.

It is a bit of a burden until you get to use it. I tend to store
it somewhere as soon as I can. Anyway, some tips:

I've heard somewhere that wearing a leather apron helps. I forget
where, and I don't know if it really does anything, but I always
wear one if I can.

Chance of success is influenced by both smithing and metallurgy
skill, so try to get them both high (ideally 100) before doing
any serious work. My favourite method for this is to only melt
down ore for ingots until my skill is higher - that way you don't
waste ingots on failed attempts.

Make sure you smith in a non-corrupting area if at all possible,
since it takes a long time. I would certainly never smith in
Darkforge. There are tips in the guidebook on how to get rid of
the dwarven smith if you want to use his forge.

If you are smithing somewhere other than dwarftown, lock the doors
to the room, make some if there aren't any. Use coward tactics
in case anything does manage to get in.

Eat before you start - you don't want to be interrupted by hunger.
You can also benefit by unequipping artifacts that you don't
really need to reduce food consumption, and don't wear anything
granting invisibility.

When you get a message saying something like "despite your best
efforts the quality of the foo does not improve", this does *not*
mean you cannot improve the item any more. You usually can, with
repeated attempts. You will eventually reach a limit though when
you stop getting any improvement. I usually give up on further
improving an item if I get that message for ten attempts with no
improvements made in between, but this is just my feeling, it's
not based on any significant testing.

Don't disregard items made from lesser metals just because you
have higher ones. My last weaponsmith had a mithril cap he could
take to higher stats than his adamantium one.

Bless and rustproof your anvil if possible to reduce the risk
of losing it to some form of item destruction.

Finally, some tips that apply only if you are actually playing a
weaponsmith, not just attempting it with any old character:

Collect everything metal you can. Weapons, armor, anything, up to
the point of not being Strained! all the time of course. You can
melt them down with the class power to get more ingots. Trigger
spear traps, collect battle axes from vault of gnolls, whatever.

You can melt down anvils, if you are lucky enough to find spares.
My last weaponsmith found three anvils randomly, as well as his
starting one. I kept one spare and melted the others down, lots
of ingots to be had from 1000s lumps of pure iron.

Well, I hope at least some of this helps - happy smithing!

Sam Blanning

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Dec 31, 2002, 1:19:54 PM12/31/02
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"Stephen White" <fake_email_address@fake_domain.com> wrote in message
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> Here are some of the items a recent weaponsmith
> of mine (sadly departed on D50) had:
>
> gauntlets of strength (-1, +0) [+8, +7] {St+5}

Was the Strength boost improved by Smithing, or was it just a tweak?


Stephen White

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Dec 31, 2002, 2:38:30 PM12/31/02
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"Sam Blanning" wrote:

No, they were found with that strength bonus. AFAIK, such bonuses
cannot be improved by smithing, sadly. The same PC had Ironfist,
but I wore these anyway since the St bonus was only slightly less
and they have much better DV and PV. Had a {St+4} pair that were
almost as good too.

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