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mike3

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May 17, 2009, 8:50:43 PM5/17/09
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I don't know if anyone's still here, or even remembers this, but I
felt I needed
to say something.

I remembered an ancient flame letter (I think it was 2001) sent by a
guy here
called "Karkadinn", and wanted to say something about it, and what
happened...
I don't know if anyone here even remembers, but this was a really
trying
experience for me, esp. at that young age of just 11...

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.adom/msg/9712b37fd5527f57?hl=en&dmode=source

"Oh hoh. Hurt your feelings... your poor, poor child. I am SO sorry
to have
damaged your self-esteem. I'm sure that you'll never recover. No,
wait, I'm
not.
There are often people who like to compare themselves to animals...
I've always
thought of myself as being somewhat cat-like. And now that I think of
it,
you're a lot like a lemming. With a brain the size of a peanut, if it
is even
existent, you march cheerfully, with a stupid little grin on your
face,
straight to the sea. And you taste that saltwater, and think to
yourself, "My!
How yummy that is! I think I shall walk in some more and drown in
this
delicious liquid refreshment!" And so you march, and the waves get
higher.
Only, I'm afraid that the metaphor fails here, as you have yet to
drown. Which
is truly a great pity, as your transformation to a bloated corpse
would
considerably reduce your general level of annoyance to TB and the
various
posters of this newsgroup.
I don't CARE about your feelings, you miserable little pissant,
because you
have shown no effort whatsoever to care about anyone else's feelings,
despite
the great laxness that has been shown towards you."

And I'd like to say this (about the last sentence, I can laugh at the
rest of
the post actually now): I did not perceive "laxness" first of all. I
think I was
first called "troll" soon after I began posting, and as an 11 year old
child,
this was very painful -- yes, I was being truthful when I said what I
did.
So I was blinded by emotion and pain, being exposed to all this at
such
a young age, and so even if someone did try to be lax I was fairly
hurt and
upset and so it would never have registered.

Some of the things that I was told like "you should read what's been
said before" for example, were irritating since for one I had, at
least as
much as I could find on Google's archives, and it made it sound like
that
wasn't enough, and yet I didn't see the need to spend hours and HOURS
just to make a single post (or at least that's what I was perceiving).
When
the infamous "Tchunk!" thread that started it all was posted, with my
"famous"
"someone aught to research that message" bit was, well, because I was
so
excited about the Tchunk thing, and I really was full of curiosity
about
what it may be (I've always, and still do, like mysteries). And other
messages
made it sound like I was the only one who could do research and that
it was
wrong to ask for *help*.

In addition, all the "prying" for the source code was also out of that
curiosity,
and a desire to learn something, namely about how to program a Rogue-
like
game. I, at just those 11 years of age, didn't see myself as doing
something
"wrong" at all by sending those emails to TB either.

Darren Grey

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May 18, 2009, 8:09:01 AM5/18/09
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On May 18, 1:50 am, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In addition, all the "prying" for the source code was also out of that
> curiosity,
> and a desire to learn something, namely about how to program a Rogue-
> like
> game. I, at just those 11 years of age, didn't see myself as doing
> something
> "wrong" at all by sending those emails to TB either.

I'd personally say USENET is no place for 11-year-olds :P Same for
many online fora actually. There's too many morons that find
insulting the only method of getting their point across. When the
target is some faceless wall of text people will go all out and forget
the most basic elements of human politeness. Thankfully I find the
ADOM communities much more reserved these days - there's almost no
flaming or trolling on the official forums for instance; the community
does extremely well whilst being entirely absent of moderators.

Anyway, hope you've learnt the meaning of *TCHUNK* these days ;)

--
Darren Grey

newname

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Jun 3, 2009, 7:15:30 AM6/3/09
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Darren Grey <darrenj...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f3ca9695-
9fb2-43a1-887...@v17g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

Yeah, most flaming now is mock-flaming, and just for fun.
I can't remember the last time that someone from the adom.de
forums has criticized someone for not researching before
asking a question... no wait- I just remembered Soirana doing
that just a couple of weeks ago : )

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