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1.  Graham Leonard  
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 More options Mar 20 2004, 1:56 pm
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From: cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard)
Date: 20 Mar 2004 10:56:08 -0800
Local: Sat, Mar 20 2004 1:56 pm
Subject: Hanafuda and Kabufuda
I've launched a website explaining how to play various games using
hanafuda (Japanese flower cards) and kabufuda. It can be found at
http://hana.kirisame.org/

When looking for information for the site I noticed posts in this
group asking about these cards and their rules, so thought that my
site might be of interest to some of the posters here.

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2.  Pwee Keng Ho  
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 More options Mar 20 2004, 10:28 pm
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From: "Pwee Keng Ho" <ken...@singmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:28:45 +0800
Local: Sat, Mar 20 2004 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda
Nice and useful site.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Keng Ho

"Graham Leonard" <cckerbe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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3.  Iain Cheyne  
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 More options Mar 21 2004, 5:20 am
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From: Iain Cheyne <myfirstn...@mysurname.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:20:45 GMT
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Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda
cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard) wrote in
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> I've launched a website explaining how to play various games using
> hanafuda (Japanese flower cards) and kabufuda. It can be found at
> http://hana.kirisame.org/

Very nice. Thank you. I might pick up a pack.

Which is the best hanafunda game in your opinion?

Also, it might be worth sorting the encoding out as some of the Japanese
script does not display properly on Western browsers.

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4.  John Coxon  
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From: John Coxon <rogue_nine_1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:59:07 +0000
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Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda

Nintendo was a hanafuda card producer before going into toys and eventually
video games.

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5.  Graham Leonard  
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 More options Mar 21 2004, 12:45 pm
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From: cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard)
Date: 21 Mar 2004 09:44:59 -0800
Local: Sun, Mar 21 2004 12:44 pm
Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda

Iain Cheyne <myfirstn...@mysurname.net> wrote in message <news:Xns94B3693E8BF31iaincheyne@193.38.113.46>...
> cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard) wrote in
> news:dd7f3312.0403201056.4b3121c@posting.google.com:

> > I've launched a website explaining how to play various games using
> > hanafuda (Japanese flower cards) and kabufuda. It can be found at
> > http://hana.kirisame.org/

> Very nice. Thank you. I might pick up a pack.

> Which is the best hanafunda game in your opinion?

> Also, it might be worth sorting the encoding out as some of the Japanese
> script does not display properly on Western browsers.

Out of the hanafuda games on my site, I've only played Poka, Koi-Koi,
Hachi-Hachi, Mushi, Hana-awase, so I can only comment on them. I've
also played the kabufuda games, but won't involve them because they're
essentially just black jack variants.

My favorite game for two is Mushi. Koi-Koi is more popular (except for
here in Kansai), but I'm not fond of the game's tendency for low
scoring hands.

For three players I like Hana-awase because it has a range of hands to
get but isn't too complicated. Hachi-Hachi is certainly fun, though;
it's field multipliers can add a great sense of excitement.

Is there a way for Japanese characters to display properly for someone
who hasn't installed a Japanese font? I was tempted to make image
files for the words but in the end decided that the use of Japanese on
the pages wasn't that extensive and that users who could read Japanese
would likely have the correct font.

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Graham Leonard


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6.  Tom Sloper  
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 More options Mar 21 2004, 2:43 pm
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From: "Tom Sloper" <toms...@sloperamaNOSPAM.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:43:51 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 21 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda

>> Also, it might be worth sorting the encoding out as some of the Japanese
>> script does not display properly on Western browsers.

I looked at every page and didn't see any problems. However, I looked at the
page source and did not see any encodings line in the source. Gotta do that,
else Japanese won't display properly for folks who aren't set up for it! (My
computer IS set up for it, and defaults to Shift-JIS when I go to that
page.)

>Is there a way for Japanese characters to display properly for someone
>who hasn't installed a Japanese font?

I think you can insert a line like the following, after the </head> tag and
before the <body> tag:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Shift-JIS">

or maybe there's supposed to be an underline after Shift and before JIS:

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=Shift_JIS">

I don't know how all of that line works, so maybe somebody will suggest a
better way to enforce the Shift-JIS encoding in your web page.

>users who could read Japanese
>would likely have the correct font.

Yes, but it's nice if it looks right even for those who don't. Oh, and by
the way. I can only speak for myself, but I find the white text a little
hard to read on the light blue background.

And I should mention that I greatly admire the amount of research and detail
inherent in the site.

Tom


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7.  Graham Leonard  
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 More options Mar 22 2004, 12:28 pm
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From: cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard)
Date: 22 Mar 2004 09:28:38 -0800
Local: Mon, Mar 22 2004 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda

"Tom Sloper" <toms...@sloperamaNOSPAM.com> wrote in message <news:Xfm7c.56790$po.530490@attbi_s52>...
> I think you can insert a line like the following, after the </head> tag and
> before the <body> tag:

> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Shift-JIS">

> or maybe there's supposed to be an underline after Shift and before JIS:

> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=Shift_JIS">

> I don't know how all of that line works, so maybe somebody will suggest a
> better way to enforce the Shift-JIS encoding in your web page.

I added the Shift-JIS specification to all the pages.

> I can only speak for myself, but I find the white text a little
> hard to read on the light blue background.

I can see your point. I'm not particularly attached to the current
color scheme and don't mind changing it. I'm leaving for China on the
day after tomorrow, though, so it probably won't get done for at least
a week.

> And I should mention that I greatly admire the amount of research and detail
> inherent in the site.

Thank you. There's still a couple points that I'd like to clarify and
add examples for; particularly in regards to the scoring.

As an aside, how familiar are you with the Hawaiian rules for
hanafuda?

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8.  Tom Sloper  
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 More options Mar 22 2004, 3:34 pm
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From: "Tom Sloper" <toms...@sloperamaNOSPAM.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:34:15 GMT
Local: Mon, Mar 22 2004 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda
From: cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard)

>how familiar are you with the Hawaiian rules for hanafuda?

What I learned about Higo Bana I learned by playing the downloadable
hanafuda game by Mark Hashimoto. I see that his Geocities website is gone
now, but his email address is (or was) alohapc at hotmail.com. I had to
download an old Visual Basic DLL file to get his program to run again - and
the rules of the game are given in his game's help file.  I don't remember
where I heard that Hawaiian hanafuda is called "higo bana" - I don't see
that term listed in Mark's help file.  His rules are similar to koi-koi, but
have added yaku combos (see http://www.sloperama.com/hanafuda/variants.htm).

Tom


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9.  Iain Cheyne  
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From: Iain Cheyne <myfirstn...@mysurname.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:31:49 GMT
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Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda
cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard) wrote in
news:dd7f3312.0403210944.50fa096f@posting.google.com:

> My favorite game for two is Mushi. Koi-Koi is more popular (except for
> here in Kansai), but I'm not fond of the game's tendency for low
> scoring hands.
> For three players I like Hana-awase because it has a range of hands to
> get but isn't too complicated. Hachi-Hachi is certainly fun, though;
> it's field multipliers can add a great sense of excitement.

Thanks. Might be worth putting this advice on the site.

> Is there a way for Japanese characters to display properly for someone
> who hasn't installed a Japanese font?

Use Shift-JIS on your webpage. Put this tag between the <Head> and </Head>
part of your HTML:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=x-sjis">

I think I'll find it easy to persuade my wife to play with these cards with
me. She did a Japanese degree, lived in Tokyo for a year and loves Japanese
things in general.

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10.  Graham Leonard  
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 More options Mar 22 2004, 12:33 pm
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From: cckerbe...@hotmail.com (Graham Leonard)
Date: 22 Mar 2004 09:33:41 -0800
Local: Mon, Mar 22 2004 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Hanafuda and Kabufuda

Iain Cheyne <myfirstn...@mysurname.net> wrote in message <news:Xns94B3E5303320Ciaincheyne@193.38.113.46>...
> Thanks. Might be worth putting this advice on the site.

I'm hoping to add a strategy/comments section to the site after I
finish the page on the history of the cards. I'll include that
information in there.

> I think I'll find it easy to persuade my wife to play with these cards with
> me. She did a Japanese degree, lived in Tokyo for a year and loves Japanese
> things in general.

Good! I recommend finding a third player if you can. I find the three
player games more entertaining.

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Graham Leonard


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