Breaking News: Williams sells pinball rights to Mr Pinball Australia
Pinball News
http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
Cheers,
Martin Ayub,
Editor, Pinball News.
http://www.pinballnews.com/
Mr Pinball Australia
Regards
Wayne Gillard
Mr Pinball Australia Pty Ltd
4/993 North Road
Murrumbeena, Victoria, Australia 3163
Tel: 613-9579-0466
Fax: 613-9579-0422
Website: www.mrpinball.com.au
Email: sa...@mrpinball.com.au
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nomad
nomad
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Michael
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> Crikey!!
>
> Regards
> Wayne Gillard
Absolutely freakin *OUTSTANDING!!* CONGRATULATIONS Wayne!!!!!!
Let's hope you also get to manufacture parts when Gene's exclusivity clause
runs out!
This is GREAT NEWS for pinball!!!!!
Michael
ldnayman
cost you but it is very interesting news and I think will have very
good results for you. Operators used to like buying Bally games, didn't
they, and all the NON-RGP ones I have talked to don't seem to like the
Stern name much.
Michael
"Michael" <radius_sv*@*yahoo.*com> wrote in message
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> Let's hope you also get to manufacture parts when Gene's exclusivity
clause
> runs out!
Oops.. Only read the first paragraph before excited mode kicked into high
gear.
Michael
Mamushka
pinball community.
John Carlson
JB
-JB
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Zenith
Zenith.
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Apples
Daryl
llabnip
gregb...@hotmail.com
when you told me your plans for this deal
l didn't think WMS would go for it
well done Wayne very well done indeed
oh and Gary if your reading this
l bet you didn't see this comming
- in your face you little troll
Greg
ave...@hotmail.com
fools joke.. (is it already april 1 down there ? :)
anyway, wayne I wish you a lot of succcess
Aeneas
http://www.flippers.be
Cliff Tucker
Who'd ever thought this would happen. Iam very excited and happy for you
Wayne.
Congratulations.
I only hope you still have some $$ left over to reproduce the parts and
machines we thought were dead and buried, and turn a profit.
Aussie Aussie Aussie, oui oui oui.
Cliff Tucker
AKA Private Gimp
TAF, PlayBall, King Pin
"Pinball News" <Edi...@pinballnews.com> wrote in message
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>
CornCob
what are you going to re-make? How does this effect Stern given you
said he's paid to use WMS patents? Now I see why you've been using WMS
parts in your whitewoods!
I've looked at many of the patents in my lunch hour at work many times
and have come to the conclusion that they are that great (Especially
when only you, Stern and maybe Gene is making pinball's). I'd bet
some of those CAD files and bill of materials with supplier information
is helpful.
Good luck anyhow...
Ping
Thorsten Heldt
Hope to see new pins or remakes in the near future.
A pinhead from germany
With regards Thorsten Heldt
Shoot 'M Again
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With kind Regards / Met vriendelijke groet
Hans Balk
The Shoot 'M Again Team
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JDubbbs
I hope you do a better job than Gene did repo'in parts. may i be the
first and chime in with NO FEAR main ramps :o)
Question: Are you going to use the pinball 2000 platform at all to
make games ?
John
jdubbbs
Sojourner353
Congratulations mate, this is a great thing you achieved and I wish you
the best of luck with it.
I now understand why you said the other day when I called looking for a
part you said "How many thousand do I need" hehe, well done and look forward
to future business with you.
Regards,
Kevin
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>
TheKorn
> http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
>
> Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
(I had an unbelievably happy message all typed out, but I'm not 100% sure
this isn't an april fool's joke. So I'll post up my real message once I
know for sure that it isn't.)
PinballShark
Brian
very truthful and pinball news's integrity isn't worth wasting on an April
Fools joke IMO.
I wish Wayne the best of luck and hopefully everyone out there gets the
parts they need while Wayne turns his endeavor into a great success.
It's a great day for pinball.
Brian
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Marc Alexander
In fact I don't think anyone involved even noticed that
this was actually close to April 1st!
--
Cheers,
Marc
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Bryan Kelly
and good things will be coming.
I wish you all the best Wayne. :-)
Bryan
PT
news. Anyone but Gene owning these rights would be fantastic news. If
only Wayne could get that pile of residual parts that are wasting away
in Gene's warehouse. Maybe Gene will sell Wayne his Williams parts
inventory in exchange for the rights to continue building the BBB
project!
On April 2 we will know for sure I guess!
John
Chris Woodruff
my birthday all rolled into one! :)
Chris
in news:1112254248....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "Pinball
News" <Edi...@pinballnews.com> said:
>
> http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
>
> Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
>
Loosey
Having an April Fools joke on the 31st of March would be in direct
violation of April Fools Day's code of ethics and so the joke would be
considered to be null and void (ie we would not have been fooled at
all). Having said that, Wayne's comment of "Crikey" could mean that he
is surprised, so it could be BS after all. Anyway I was thinking that
one of the new MM playfields would be great but now I think an entire
brand new MM machine would be better.
Dave
TheKorn
news:Xns962A34BE0825D...@207.115.63.158:
I gotta quit waking up early; I forgot March had thirty-ONE days!
OK, so back to the previously mentioned happy message...
FREE AT LAST,
FREE AT LAST,
THANK GOD ALMIGHTY, I'M FREE AT LAST!!
The tyranny (and that's the _only_ thing you can call it) of GENE THE
FUCKWAD and the BUTTCAVE TRAVELING CIRCUS OF IDIOTS is now over! (Kim
excepted; she _earned_ my respect. Gene? BWAHAHAHA-FUCKING-HAHAHA! Not
even!)
This announcement suddenly put a lot of things into place; why Gene has
been pulling parts out of his ass when he's been completely inept before,
Buttcave's threatening of Wayne on the Facist Forum, and Wayne using WMS
coils on his whitewood all now make sense.
(mirrors via email are nice. :)) )
Tom Stevens
Congratulations Wayne.
Hey, is my MM playfield done yet? Ha! Just kidding. But that does
explain how you were able to get the artwork to make one for your game.
Looking forward to seeing updates on this!!! Ask Uncle Willy may be
coming back!!!
Peter Colombo
Now you've go everyone around the world wondering
about the possibilities (which seem endless). Let us know
what you have planned!
Pete :o) :o) :o) :o) :o)
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>
> http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
>
> Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
>
Otto
I hope you make a fortune on it!
Otto
CARGPB11
My web page: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Ottoslanding
azarca...@cox.net
endeavors. Im confident things will be different come October.
darin
heckheck
eastern when Wayne posted he'd need some sleep. THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!
PINBALL IS BACK BABY!!!!
h_h
Can I preorder my MM now?
chef Tako
questions like, does the floppy disk containing the WPC-95 AV/ASIC code
still exist?
bet yer bottom dollar than in the next six months, wayne accomplish's
more (and will do more) for the pin community that gene did in the last
six years.
--tako
Pinball News wrote:
> http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
>
> Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin Ayub,
> Editor, Pinball News.
> http://www.pinballnews.com/
>
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Mike
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> Crikey!!
>
> Regards
> Wayne Gillard
>
> Mr Pinball Australia Pty Ltd
> 4/993 North Road
> Murrumbeena, Victoria, Australia 3163
> Tel: 613-9579-0466
> Fax: 613-9579-0422
> Website: www.mrpinball.com.au
> Email: sa...@mrpinball.com.au
>
> "Pinball News" <Edi...@pinballnews.com> wrote in message
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DWGoett
i'm skeptical now.... thanks!
Mike Schudel
So what's going to happen with parts production between now and Oct. 12th,
2005???
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heckheck
all the best.
Guess we can't say now that the best Pinball is just made in the USA.
Hope that shipping from Australia works out, but I'm sure it will.
Rock on!
h_h
Brian
problem going 6 more months ;)
I have high faith in Wayne and I'm sure we'll see lots of great things
coming soon.
Brian
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DWGoett
make more CC or something like that. those are hard to find.
dj
It's only 11:30 pm here....
Mr Pinball Australia wrote:
> Crikey!!
>
> Regards
> Wayne Gillard
>
> Mr Pinball Australia Pty Ltd
> 4/993 North Road
> Murrumbeena, Victoria, Australia 3163
> Tel: 613-9579-0466
> Fax: 613-9579-0422
> Website: www.mrpinball.com.au
> Email: sa...@mrpinball.com.au
>
> "Pinball News" <Edi...@pinballnews.com> wrote in message
> news:1112254248....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>>http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
>>
>>Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
>>
pbga...@hotmail.com
to support your efforts.
May the Force be with you! :)
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
===========================
Chris Lyon
leave America. But, it will be exciting to see what new things come.
Dukester
it? This would definitely drop the price on the currently high price
for MM?
Chris Lyon
kinda cool.
Dukester
Chris Lyon
chef Tako
> April Fools already???
>
> It's only 11:30 pm here....
>
during the next 14 hours (EST) to come up good stuff tommorrow given
today's wonderfull news.
--tako
Dukester
beloved machine will not be as valuable anymore. I just notice that MM
makes a lot of money on route. I know the one at college back in the
days always raked in the quarters.
I guess it would cost too much to remake and still sell enough machines
to profit.
Pinsgonewild
at the wheel.... oh and do us a favor hire or subcontract Brian Eddy
and Lyman Sheats to write-up some home version ROMS and for creative
ideas for NEW non-movie themed pins.....
Good Luck....
Del
Forget the Re-makes for now ,, It would be great to see ALOT of parts
being re-made 1st & then <crossed-fingers> New games later,, He cain't
do it all in one day,, But just sitting here reading this is VERY
EXCITING !!! Great news for everyone !!
A Happy Day for Pinball, !! LET THERE BE LIGHT !!!!
Pin-Del, =)
dmp65
Williams is a publicly traded company and must post all press releases,
yet I don't see anything about this on their site yet.
I guess Pinball News really is FIRST and free!
Having said that, if it's true then congratulations Wayne!
Also, please forget about remaking old Williams games....it's time for
something new and exciting in the name of WMS/Bally.
Dave
Julian Hepworth
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pinballjim
institution, and I'll bet even the guy in Austrailia will outsource
half of it to China.
I try not to be jingoistic, but if all this comes to pass then one of
the most unique traits about pinball is over. Only way I'd ever buy
some pinball from Austrailia is it had better be the best damn original
game ever, or it better be $2k NIB.
WMS remakes at high prices? Forget about it.
Dave M
the Q jackpot!
Dave
Dave M
jackpot!
Dave
Al
Al
TheKorn wrote:
> "Pinball News" <Edi...@pinballnews.com> wrote in
> news:1112254248....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>
> > http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
> >
> > Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
>
> (I had an unbelievably happy message all typed out, but I'm not 100%
sure
> this isn't an april fool's joke. So I'll post up my real message
once I
> know for sure that it isn't.)
HalifaxPinball
I for one am looking forward to getting the chance to make as many
playfields as possible.
Thanks for the phone call Wayne. Very happy to celebrate the news with you.
It cost me a night sleep as my head was swimming with the possibilities. I
ended up working on Centaur for hours...
Greg
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>
> http://www.pinballnews.com/news/bally.html
>
> Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
>
Chuck Hess
Assuming this is not a April Fools joke, which I'm still not convinced
of, what are your plans?
Setup manufacturing in Australlia? US?
What games might you re-release?
What effect does this have on BBB?
TheKorn
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
> I'm curious....
> Williams is a publicly traded company and must post all press releases,
> yet I don't see anything about this on their site yet.
> I guess Pinball News really is FIRST and free!
Nobody says you have to put out a press release for everything.
heckheck
wouldn't even be suprised to see Wayne assemble the populated
playfields only in Aussie land, and then use someone like Big Time
Cabinets to make the cabinets and do final assembly in the USA. This
would make a lot of sense. If the buisness details can be worked out,
I'd not be surprised to see two machines a year in perhaps 1000 unit
quantities at somewhere in the $5K price region. That's 10M gross
sales. There are certainly enough popular titles to support this.
ROCK ON.
h_h
TheKorn
>> Looks like Wayne has got a busy time ahead. :-)
>
> So what's going to happen with parts production between now and Oct.
> 12th, 2005???
>
Business as usual. In other words NOT A F*CKING THING FROM IPB.
(Illinois Pinball aBomination.... :) )
(cept maybe some bra cups that are painted black and white. :)) )
frenchy
see what he turns out. Going to be his own system, not WPC. Just says
he will use existing Williams part numbers. For all we know he's going
to turn out stripped down 80s type machines with no licenses. Which
could be a good thing if the games are good. Not a cinch to make a
good game. Who's he got for designers?
Plus don't know if he's going to do remakes or new games. Not sure
what the point would be to do remakes and have to hassle with not even
using the old boardset, that could be a nightmare. The whitewood
definitely looked new but sure didn't look like a big budget machine if
that's going to be the first one. Lot of unknowns and lots potential.
Good luck to him nonetheless!!
Frenchy
John Wart, jr
have the rights owned by someone in the USA who takes years to make
anything happen, or someone overseas who can get things done?
Congrats Wayne!
-
heckheck
Chuck Hess wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> Assuming this is not a April Fools joke, which I'm still not
convinced
> of, what are your plans?
I'm betting it's real. Too much innuendo lately. Gene's cease and
desist letter, the talk of the Oct exclusivity clause etc.
>
> Setup manufacturing in Australlia? US?
Would make sense to make populated playfields in Australia (or an even
cheaper locale in Pac Rim) and do final assemply in USA using someone
like Big Time Cabinets to supply cabinets and do assembly. Just a
guess.
>
> What games might you re-release?
MM, he already mentioned he's doing playfields and this is a no
brainer. I'd suspect AF, since it is a simple game and very popular.
AFM comes to mind. Oh this is too much fun.
>
> What effect does this have on BBB?
I'll bet BBB gets done, AFTER Wayne gets the contracts he needs out of
Gene for molds, supplies, etc. This is probably the root of the C&D
letter. To give Wayne leverage.
blub...@gmail.com
years of work on their own great products. I'm glad a real pinball
person is taking ownership. Good luck!
richa...@yahoo.com
sleep....sounds like you're gonna need it. Also sounds like I'm
finally going to have to plunk down some money for a NIB machine in the
near future. What a great thing to read to start the day.
Richard
Mike Schudel
I doubt even that... :-(
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Mike S.
Kalamazoo, MI
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lsc...@dlptech.com
parts, and Gene can concentrate on BBB now, and now maybe Kingpin down
the line.
Hoopstar
this months before it happened or that "it will never happen" or that "wayne
will never make a pinball machine"
Eat your words you tools..!!
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> Crikey!!
>
> Regards
> Wayne Gillard
>
> Mr Pinball Australia Pty Ltd
> 4/993 North Road
> Murrumbeena, Victoria, Australia 3163
> Tel: 613-9579-0466
> Fax: 613-9579-0422
> Website: www.mrpinball.com.au
> Email: sa...@mrpinball.com.au
>
> "Pinball News" <Edi...@pinballnews.com> wrote in message
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David Gray
johnw...@johnwartjr.com wrote:
> I enjoy a good pinball machine, wherever it comes from!
Me too. I have owned and played some fantastic games that were made in
Bologne, Italy.
> Congrats Wayne!
Ditto here.
Have a Foster's and some vegemite on a cracker and enjoy the brouhaha!
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This operation will henceforth run entirely on mirrors.
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Roger (in the UK)
industry. How many machines are WMS /Bally turning out right now?
It's only the name that's gone, you had no product anymore.....
It is fantastic news. I guess your post is for your amusement, to try
and illicit responses?
(Plus you need to check your history too).
Roger.
Roger (in the UK)
Australia being sickening.
Roger.
Roger (in the UK)
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That's just the cherry on top of the cake , isn't it...? :-)
Greg P
Hoopstar wrote:
> Can't wait to hear either Gary or Pinilicous chime in on how they
knew about
> this months before it happened or that "it will never happen" or that
"wayne
> will never make a pinball machine"
>
> Eat your words you tools..!!
Damn Hoopster, you beat me to it.....Notice there is no commentary from
either of these two yet.
JP
kirb
knew about this months before it happened or >that "it will never
happen" or that "wayne will never make a >pinball machine"
>Eat your words you tools..!!
Well, to be fair, he hasn't produced anything yet.
The irony is that Gary says remakes are on the way, then bids high on
games he says will be remade anyway, says MRPA will never make a game,
then we find out that the person who can remake the games is MRPA.
Strange twist of events. Even without this news, Gary is a tool.
Kirb
Hoopstar
We "Australians" have been taking over your "Americana" for so many years it
is not funny. Go look in your Yankee institution that is General Motors for
exhibit A ;) Thing is, we do it better, cheaper and faster..
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Hoopstar
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bogart
The king is dead. LONG LIVE THE (new) KING!!!
Oh, and for the folks who said NOTHING ever manufactured in OZ was
distributed worldwide, I've seen THOUSANDS of Aristocrat slot machines
in Nevada casinos that were, you guessed it, MADE IN AUSTRALIA! Plenty
of parts, too!
bogart
www.pinrestore.com
Mr Pinball Australia wrote:
> Crikey!!
>
> Regards
> Wayne Gillard
>
> Mr Pinball Australia Pty Ltd
> 4/993 North Road
> Murrumbeena, Victoria, Australia 3163
> Tel: 613-9579-0466
> Fax: 613-9579-0422
> Website: www.mrpinball.com.au
> Email: sa...@mrpinball.com.au
>
> "Pinball News" <Edi...@pinballnews.com> wrote in message
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>
Hoopstar
maybe they were right - he wont produce "A" pinball machine.. just a shit
load of them :)
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MitchelWB
that... talk about pingasm!
MitchelWB
Hoopstar
Wayne said - Cirkey. :)
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BrianAce
for your new endeavor. Both the shocking good news and the positive
vibes and optimism on RGP had me checking my calendar for signs of an
elaborate April Fool's prank as well.
Brian
Hoopstar
decided to pull the pin (no pun intended) on Pinball
God bless Wayne :)
John Bigbooty
<ave...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>if the article wasn't dated 31th march I'd think it's an early aprils
>fools joke.. (is it already april 1 down there ? :)
>
>anyway, wayne I wish you a lot of succcess
>
> Aeneas
>http://www.flippers.be
Isn't it already April 1st in Australia???
But, first mention of it came on March 30th (EST) so if it is a April
Fools joke, he planted the seed early.
Mark
Norcross GA
frenchy
their new system, and we find out if this is much more than now having
TWO guys that paid Williams a lot of money and can now go to cocktail
parties, buff their fingernails on their shirts and say "I own a
pinball company".
Chuck Hess
Kirb,
This is a hoot. Gary continually reveals the depths of his idiocy.
Notice he is strangely quiet. Although he may just be down at
chuck-e-cheese trying to get enough tickets to win the table top
spiderman pinball machine.
I do hate them fancy lads!
Chuck Hess
--------------------------------
Kalamazoo, MI
chuckATsource9DOTcom
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BWAGNER5150
Ben
frenchy
an article, not the legal papers.
The wording of the news implies he could remake a Williams MM and name
it a Bally, but then seems to indicate he could only manufacturer it
under his own company, and only use Bally if they were his new games OR
former Bally games. Might have to be labeled as a "WayneCo MM", maybe
not.
So he has to use his new system (whateverr it is) for new games cuz
Williams wouldn't let him use their old system for making any new
games. Hmmm. Paying for the rights for WPC but he can't do anything
new with it.
pinballjim
>games that were made in Bologne, Italy.
Sure, I've played some amusing Zacarria and Playmatic games, too.
But those games are virtually worthless as collectibles and probably
come to very few minds when someone says the word "pinball". I've got
a New World sitting in storage with my name on it, and it looks *new*,
brand new. But so what? That makes it worth $350 instead of $200 if
it was beat up?
In a dying market, remakes of old machines aren't going to change
anyone's minds about what country was the master of pinball. This
stuff, even if he's very successful, isn't going to be a drop in the
bucket of the numbers already out there.
JC
to you due to location...chinese labor, asian market, friendly aussie
trade rights with the U.S....Nice move and good luck.
I fully expect to see some Bally pins around Shanghai when I get over
there again in 3 years or so. Hmmmm, any chance of an olympic tie-in
pin for 2008?
However, given the size of your investment and the start-up costs of
integrating the new technologies with base knowledge, I promise to be a
bit more realistic in terms of my "reasonable price" expectations than
what I seen suggested by others!
-JC-
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Manic
potentially manufactured. The market is close to dead and
even with Wms economy of scale and associated manufacturers
an MM still cost almost 4K NIB eight years ago.
Now imagine *today* how much they could cost if you want that same
level of quality eight years later and with none of the tooling
plants available and no savings from large production numbers.
But enough of glum assessments - good news is good news ;-)
--
*Because John Shields HATES to see people's collections:*
M.M, C.V, N.G.G, T.O.M, J.Y, N.F, J.D,
Shad*w, C.F.T.B.L, A.F.M, F.T, W.W, L.O.T.R.
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Dukester
Japanese make better cars.
Remakes of old machines only purpose is to get games like MM to the
hands of those who cannot because of the scarce supply. Of course the
true main purpose for any of this is $$$$$$$
If there is a good possiblity of making $$$$ it will be done. It is
that simple. Its all about the GREEN. That is life.
frenchy
level of quality eight years later and with none of the tooling
plants available and no savings from large production numbers. >>
Yeah but your example was remaking MM, so there is no need to recoup
the development costs of that particular game. Wayne didn't pay them
THAT much.
Sure would be volume savings on other stuff like parts, screening etc,
but that stuff is minor compared to the near 1 million per game
development cost that had to be made back by Williams.
If he wants to use his own system to make a worthily named MM 2?
Uhhhhhhh.....
kirb
level of quality eight years later and with none of the >tooling plants
available and no savings from large production >numbers.
I wonder how many more (or less) games would be sold if they were in
kit form. I'd jump at the chance to assemble my own game.
Kirb
frenchy
with parts inside of them and flippers on them and balls bouncing
around....but only Americans know how to build a pinball.
Wayne....the new Zaccaria? God I hope not.
Chuck Hess
>kit form. I'd jump at the chance to assemble my own game.
>
>Kirb
I would be all over kit games!