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Re: My challenge to Christopher Hitchens

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pin...@yahoo.com

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Jan 2, 2005, 12:21:00 AM1/2/05
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What you say is true about how a ball moves on an overlay. But
if the overlay is clearcoated with an auto urethane, the properties
of the overlay/ball are changed. I don't think the ball cares
what the substrate is. The ball only cares about the top coat,
which is now 'diamondplate'. So an clearcoated overlay plays
(exactly) the same as a clearcoated wood playfield.

Regardless though, I agree with Fred Kemper's view of overlays.
They are a last resort, and they don't make a game more valuable.
They are for games that have destroyed playfields, giving
them some reason to not be parted-out.

That all a-side, this has nothing to do with C Hitchens. I mean
who cares if he can restore a game or not? I don't remember this
forum being rec.games.whoisthebestrestorer. This is a forum to
exchange ideas and thoughts. Not a place to corner people and
challange them like a high school football game. I don't think anyone
has anything to prove here.

Sincerely,
Steven R.

gpc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> For those of you emailing me in private about this, it looks like it
is
> not going to happen.
>
> Christopher did send me two rambling emails, but if judging from the
> emails, if he restores the same way he puts his thoughts together ...
>
> Oh well ...
>
> Maybe I can bid on a FUN pinball auction.
>
> I am sure Christopher is a great guy, but where is the proof of how
> good this guy really is?
>
> I will say it one more time with all this talk of the Funhouse
pinball
> going on, buying one with an overlay and then clearcoated it is nutty
> ... do you know how the ball moves on an overlay? the ball doesn't
so
> much roll as it kind of drags. Totally different feel to it. Like
> having unwanted backspin on the ball. Kind of like the difference
> between a real sun tan and one of those places where they spray the
tan
> stuff on you and you hope that it sticks.
> Not like wood my friends ...
>
> all my opinions ...
>
> gary

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Randy P.

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Jan 2, 2005, 12:52:23 AM1/2/05
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<gpc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Christopher did send me two rambling emails, but if judging from the
> emails, if he restores the same way he puts his thoughts together ...

Wow, well said. I'm gonna stay away from Chris -- looks like he just slit
his own throat. What kind of fool would pass up the opportunity to restore
a machine for you to critique? Everyone respects you and your opinions so
much...you've contributed so much to the group, you're sort of a father
figure to most of us.

Please let us all know who else we should steer clear of. Thanks Gary!
You're super!

Randy

P.S. I no longer consider you to be "just" a clueless juvenile idiot.
You're a rude prick too. I've never seen anyone who knew so little about
what they were talking about, spout so much nonsense. Does your wife have
any idea how people feel about you on RGP? Is she proud of you? Do you
have *any* friends on RGP? Can you name them, or are they too ashamed to
admit it?


Cliffy

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Jan 2, 2005, 1:17:09 AM1/2/05
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filters filters filters. joy joy joy ;)

--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com

cody chunn

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Jan 2, 2005, 2:33:30 AM1/2/05
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Yes, please, everyone ignore the gpctv account. It is beyond obvious at
this point.

"Cliffy" <cri...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Inbiz4us

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Jan 2, 2005, 11:11:50 AM1/2/05
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>I am sure Christopher is a great guy, but where is the proof of how
>good this guy really is?

well if you knew how to google you would then find all the proof you need to
understand how good he is.

you gary are an absolute BAFOON !


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GA Pinhead

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Jan 2, 2005, 10:37:47 AM1/2/05
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If Gary plays pinball like he writes, he must be worse than me.

<gpc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> For those of you emailing me in private about this, it looks like it is
> not going to happen.
>

Christopher Hutchins

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Jan 2, 2005, 2:12:48 PM1/2/05
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Gary I don't know why you waste your life away with this crap.It is Sunday
watch the game,make love to your wife,shop out one of your machines,play
with your kids or do all four.You have my #.If you would like to buy
something to enjoy or send a game that needs some work then I would be glad
to help you or anyone else accomplish that.Begging me to sell you a game in
this public forum just further promotes what I do and is most likely making
you look more foolish.I doubt either of those things are what you intend to
do. A review from you is no better than the many already archived in Google
to anyone but yourself..The games stacked up around here from well respected
individuals and repeat customers puts me in a position where I do not have
to deal with you unless I choose to.
It is pointless cluttering up the group with post that equate to nothing
more than you playing on the computer.A phone call or private email would
get you much better results and would at least make this seem like a true
interest of yours rather than your latest unwarranted attack..
The method you are using on this subject looks more like you are trying to
create drama than actually do business or fill a need you might have for a
nice game.The email you sent me read more like"I want a perfect game cheap
but if you do that for me I will give it the Gary stamp of approval".
Talk about loosing on both fronts. Gee I wonder why I am not jumping all
over this "opportunity"

--
Christopher Hutchins


<gpc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> For those of you emailing me in private about this, it looks like it is
> not going to happen.
>
> Christopher did send me two rambling emails, but if judging from the
> emails, if he restores the same way he puts his thoughts together ...
>

> Oh well ...
>
> Maybe I can bid on a FUN pinball auction.
>

> I am sure Christopher is a great guy, but where is the proof of how
> good this guy really is?
>

Del

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Jan 2, 2005, 2:22:02 PM1/2/05
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Would someone PLEASE tell me how to Block Garys post ???

The BS is getting deep & I'm not reading this page to see what the ASS
has to say ,, PLEASE Help

Pin-Del
Delmail333 remove this @ aol.com

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Cliffy

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Jan 2, 2005, 2:52:11 PM1/2/05
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First off, don't use google. Use your own isp's NNTP server. Then use a
good news reader like Netscape 4.8 or Agent, Xnews, there are lots out
there. Heck you can even use Outlook Express which is most likely
already on your computer. Then you simply subscribe to rgp and add his
email to your filters, he has two so be aware.

--

Del

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Jan 2, 2005, 3:18:41 PM1/2/05
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Thank You & DONE Cliffy !!
I'm using Out-Look & that was really easy , Wish I had known sooner
!!!! GOOD-BYE Gary !! Enjoy talking to your-self !!
( I think he does that anyway,, Must be the Prozac ) =)
Pin-Del, =)

pr

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Jan 2, 2005, 4:09:46 PM1/2/05
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Christopher Hitchens is the author of "Love, Poverty and War". I
haven't read the book yet but I understand it's a good read. I am
disturbed (as I'm sure others are) to hear that he is unable to write a
coherent email. As a celebrated author, he most certainly should be
able to put together a simple piece of writing. What a shame.

Now Christopher Hutchins is a husband, father and pinball restorer.
Though I have read about 200 of his emails and found them to be pretty
lucid, I honestly was more concerned with his ability to restore my
precious games then whether he was up for the Hugo award.

As for a challenge, Hutchins has accepted mine! Guess you have to put a
little money on the line to get anyone to take you seriously. Anyway,
he is going to restore my proto ES w/ NOS pf. This is no simple task!
The pf is NOS but has crazing and the cabinet is screened and needs
repair and repainting. To boot the 17 year old game is a System 11
which quite frankly is a BEAR to work on. This will be an exhaustive,
time consuming labor of love (not to mention costly).

Since you are unable or unwilling to put your money where your mouth
is, gary, guess I'll have to do it for you. I will post extensive
before and after pics in the coming months. I'll venture to say this
will exhibit some unbelieveable skills that few possess in the
restoration business.

Now this is the last time I'm going to bail you out gary. As for Mr.
Hitchins, sorry man you're on your own. (shaking my head) Such a damn
shame.

pr

Inbiz4us

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Jan 2, 2005, 7:46:04 PM1/2/05
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>Judging by how many people are doing business with me on this group
>You are yesterdays news ...
>

business ? who's trying to run a business here ? i'm just restoring games,
helping a few guys out and finding / playing sweet pins.

i think you are in the hobby for the wrong reason.

bye, bye Mr. Gafoon !

( i haven't passed out a knickname in sometime, but i believe you are now
worthy of the gary-bafoon hybrid name )

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