HOMOSEXUAL pinball theme could be HALRIOUS

[Pinball Muggle]

For the record I’m 100% hetro!!!!! but it's time for this idea to come
out of the closet.

Right after DC comics announced that "The Green Lantern" is now a
homosexual, I realized there could be a ton of funny "homo humor" done
in a pinball theme (Though it could be disgusting too ... if the art or
DMD graphics got to explicit).

There’s got to be a million “laugh out loud” quote possibilities for
stuff like; "skill shot – pop-bumpers - ball drains – double bone-us"
... You get the idea.

If such a thing ever happened, Gay Bars every where would “gobble ‘em
up”.
For me, playing a copule times at a pinshow would be plenty.


--
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This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com

[Mark Andresen]

I think I'll take a pass on this one...

[ldnayman]

Wizard of Oz is already nearing completion so you are a step behind on
this one.

Looking forward to James' sure to be over-the-top "this is what's
wrong with the US today" rant.

[CEG]

don't even get me started on the different modes it could have lol

chas

[Frank Furhter]

Pinball Muggle wrote:
> For the record I�m 100% hetro!!!!! but it's time for this idea to come

> out of the closet.
>
> Right after DC comics announced that "The Green Lantern" is now a
> homosexual, I realized there could be a ton of funny "homo humor" done
> in a pinball theme (Though it could be disgusting too ... if the art or
> DMD graphics got to explicit).
>

> There�s got to be a million �laugh out loud� quote possibilities for
> stuff like; "skill shot � pop-bumpers - ball drains � double bone-us"

> ... You get the idea.
>

> If such a thing ever happened, Gay Bars every where would �gobble �em
> up�.

> For me, playing a copule times at a pinshow would be plenty.
>
>

Pretty sure this topic of a pinball has been covered in the high heels
'go girls' pinball, if not just cross dressing but guys that enjoy being
in girls clothing. Its as gay as gay could get, surely it meats your
kneeds.

[TheKorn]

Pinball Muggle <cab...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Pinball.Mu...@rrgparchive.com:

> For the record I�m 100% hetro!!!!! but it's time for this idea to come
> out of the closet.

If you believe in the idea, P-ROC it up. Or at the very least, vpinball it up.

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[Tracelifter]

I know of a place in San Berdoo that would be a great location for this
game.

Wayne Head's Home "O" Mobile World.

http://tinyurl.com/c6azce6


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[Joe Grenuk]

Yawn.

Homosexual pin themes have been around since the 30's when Genco made
Gay Time, and then Bally followed up with the classic Gay Cruise.

But a new 21st century spin would be cool. And if WOZ has slippers for
flippers, and SS has bony flippers, the new homosexual pin would have
to have boner flippers. When they get stiff after a few games, you
have to lube up the shaft. The game would come :) with an extra set
of rubbers. Don't even want to think about the shooter rod. :)

And when they go up in value to overinflated prices in a few years,
when you buy one, you definitely have to bend over.

Bye Bye

XOXOXO

[Ron - NYP]

I can't believe you went for the cheap humor Joe, balls should go into
outholes, not inholes.
Ron:)

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[ldnayman]

I can't believe you forgot "Gay 90s" by Williams.

[Pinball Muggle]

jgrenuk;1951009 Wrote:
> Yawn.
>
> Homosexual pin themes have been around since the 30's when Genco made
> Gay Time, and then Bally followed up with the classic Gay Cruise.
>
>

Not quite - back then (and even into the 1960's) the meaning for the
word was "being in a very happy mood".
Guess it still means that but it's been so polluted now it's just used
for homosexuals.

[Joe Grenuk]

>
> > Homosexual pin themes have been around since the 30's when Genco made
> > Gay Time, and then Bally followed up with the classic Gay Cruise.
>
> Not quite - back then (and even into the 1960's) the meaning for the
> word was "being in a very happy mood".
> Guess it still means that but it's been so polluted now it's just used
> for homosexuals.
>

No Kidding? Really? No way!!!!!!

Next thing you know you'll be telling me that "queer" doesn't mean
"odd" any more.

[ldnayman]

This is truly a revalation.

The gays are ruining the English language.

[Frank Furhter]

Pinball Muggle wrote:
> jgrenuk;1951009 Wrote:
>> Yawn.
>>
>> Homosexual pin themes have been around since the 30's when Genco made
>> Gay Time, and then Bally followed up with the classic Gay Cruise.
>>
>>
>
>
> Not quite - back then (and even into the 1960's) the meaning for the
> word was "being in a very happy mood".
> Guess it still means that but it's been so polluted now it's just used
> for homosexuals.
>
>

Since likely none of us were alive and doing well as adults in the 30s
though the 50s, I doubt any of us know for sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gay

If someone uttered the word 'gay' at any time the first thought would be
some queer/homosexual and certainly not 'good times.' I'm confident
post WWII productions/children would not consider it OK to call anything
for sale today gay without a special market in mind (say, double gay goo
lubricants) and priced accordingly.

[Joe Grenuk]

>
> The gays are ruining the English language.

No, Levi, you meant to say that the gays are queering the English
language. :)

[Pinball Muggle]

Faggot - Bundle of sticks.
Dykes - Wire cutters
Pack-o-fags - Andy Capp's cigarettes.

[ldnayman]

They are buggering it all up for sure.

[Ken Layton]

Time to bring back the "gobble hole".

Gameplay rules could something this:

Light up F-L-A-M-I-N-G or A-N-U-S for bonus score.

Completing A-I-D-S ends game immediately.

[Joe Grenuk]

Yep, they blew it.

[planetmess]

> it's time for this idea to come out of the closet.

Hey, hasn't pinball historically been about sex anyway...?

Mic

[jackofdiamonds]

Who's the guy who does the custom shooter rods?


--
jackofdiamonds

[Pinball Muggle]

jackofdiamonds;1951122 Wrote:
> Who's the guy who does the custom shooter rods?

LOL!!


--
Pinball Muggle

Steve Smith
Richmond VA

[DOC DOOM]

Guess you all forgot the one with Elton John?

Doc Doom

[wbradley]

That would be a dangerously slippery slope. Few are able to be very
successful being politically incorect.


--
wbradley

[Joe Grenuk]

I'm in favor of gay marriage, so long as both chicks are hot.

[cody chunn]

Your homophobia is showing under your skirt.

-cody

PS: you are not funny


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[Silverball17]

Go Girl was a Drag Queen pinball machine was it not?

[RomulusX]

On Jun 4, 5:46 pm, Joe Grenuk <jgre...@aol.com> wrote:
> I'm in favor of gay marriage, so long as both chicks are hot.

Right on Brother!

[Pinball Muggle]

cody chunn;1951179 Wrote:
> Your homophobia is showing under your skirt.
>
> -cody
> PS: you are not funny
>
>

Oh cody - tisk tisk

--
Pinball Muggle

Steve Smith
Richmond VA

[jpola]

Hey, it's cool if I point out that HALARIOUS isn't an actual English
word, right?

[Joe Grenuk]

On Jun 4, 8:39 pm, jpola <jpno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, it's cool if I point out that HALARIOUS isn't an actual English
> word, right?

While not correct, it does pass RGP's low standards. He only missed
one out of 9 letters, for a correctness percentage of 88.9%. He's
good.

[Dan Q very much]

Look again, he spelled it "halrious."

He also missed "hetero" and "couple."

And "pin show" isn't one word, either.

But I stopped being a spelling nazi ages ago, so never mind. :-)

[Frank Furhter]

Apparently 88.9% is good, which makes a normalization factor of good to
be somewhere in that range. Of which most pinball machines for sale
offered here are not good, more like fair.

[vanilla]

On Jun 4, 3:59 pm, "cody chunn" <cchu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Your homophobia is showing under your skirt.
>
> -cody
>
> PS: you are not funny
>

I agree. This is not cool.

One can select from this thread who to avoid in person.

[ldnayman]

On Jun 4, 3:46 pm, Joe Grenuk <jgre...@aol.com> wrote:
> I'm in favor of gay marriage, so long as both chicks are hot.

My God Joe, that one is older than "Of course gays should be able to
marry...let 'em be as miserable as us!!!"


SOOOO not fabulous.

[phishrace]

On Jun 4, 8:39 am, Pinball Muggle <cabi...@verizon.net> wrote:
> For the record I’m 100% hetro!!!!! but it's time for this idea to come
> out of the closet.
>
> Right after DC comics announced that "The Green Lantern" is now a
> homosexual, I realized there could be a ton of funny "homo humor" done
> in a pinball theme (Though it could be disgusting too ... if the art or
> DMD graphics got to explicit).
>
> There’s got to be a million “laugh out loud” quote possibilities for
> stuff like;  "skill shot – pop-bumpers - ball drains – double bone-us"
> ... You get the idea.
>
> If such a thing ever happened, Gay Bars every where would “gobble ‘em
> up”.
> For me, playing a copule times at a pinshow would be plenty.

I'm straight too, but I do know of gay people in the pinball hobby.
Some who post here. I doubt they'd find your idea amusing.

One of the things I really enjoy about this hobby is how it attracts
folks from all walks of life. Didn't really notice it when I was a kid
playing at the arcade. But now that I'm older, I can really appreciate
it. You won't find many other hobbies with such a wide cast of
characters. Throw stones at any minority here and you're likely to hit
someone. HTH

-phish

[Tektune]

I agree with you phish. Well said! Why do people need to throw stones
anyways?

"I'm straight too, but I do know of gay people in the pinball hobby.
Some who post here. I doubt they'd find your idea amusing.

One of the things I really enjoy about this hobby is how it attracts
folks from all walks of life. Didn't really notice it when I was a kid
playing at the arcade. But now that I'm older, I can really appreciate
it. You won't find many other hobbies with such a wide cast of
characters. Throw stones at any minority here and you're likely to hit
someone. HTH

-phish"

--
Tektune

[Joe Grenuk]

Yep, no one has any sense of humor anymore. Can't poke any fun at
anyone for fear of offending someone. The list of verboten subjects is
expansive. Good thing All in the Family had it's run in the 70's; it
could never happen today because the Polish, Italians, Jews, Irish,
Puerto Ricans, gays, hippies, swingers, feminists, the fats and the
skinnies and the blacks would see to it that the show would never see
the light of day. Yes. more seriousness is definitely in order.

[ldnayman]

No thread like this is complete without the old white guy "PC rant."

Well done, Joe, well done.

[Terrapin Mark]

On Jun 4, 11:05 pm, ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote:

Levi, aren't we both politically correct Redskins fans?

http://www.cubbytees.com/ShirtPieces/RG3--ZM--RED.jpg

[Joe Grenuk]

That would be

Nope II

[ldnayman]

http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/Redskins-Facepalm-psd37809.png

[TunaSled]

> If someone uttered the word 'gay' at any time the first thought would be
> some queer/homosexual and certainly not 'good times.' I'm confident
> post WWII productions/children would not consider it OK to call anything
> for sale today gay without a special market in mind (say, double gay goo
> lubricants) and priced accordingly.

So what does a good gay lubricant go for these days then?

[ldnayman]

Obviously it's what Novus 1 is for.

[Terrapin Mark]

On Jun 4, 11:45 pm, ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote:

> http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/Redskins-Facepalm-psd37809.png

LOL! Very True!

[ldnayman]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/409003812.jpg?key=200178&Expires=1338871817&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=QurRgatFSR-g5lN-eA4FBEYA-DOASD8PcAvRyqTcEqxo0tm-NFUScZfjudQlg7n3LRH1M8U8j~x0Q0Cl4DUtr8AlvMH9IAo3FXleRJcF0KdT0P8smB5sU0WwbW-HOD0aQbFL-WUjoat1qs-SL23960l-rBIJ0GdftgOI21w0V2A_

[Max Badazz]

> Gameplay rules could something this:
>
> Light up F-L-A-M-I-N-G or A-N-U-S for bonus score.
>
> Completing A-I-D-S ends game immediately.

All of you are taking the male thing too far.... why is no one talking
about two (or more) hot girls in a pinball machine. That is still
gay, but a much more male pleasing theme :)

Double bonus can be a double "you know what" :)
shaker motor stimulation
silver bullet multiball
Kong Dong mode
etc

put a good backglass and some nice sideart and its a winner :)

Chris (in NH)

[gnrbv]

I agree with that !

[ldnayman]

I am the Halrious! Goo Goo Ga Joob!

[metallik]

On Jun 4, 11:02 pm, Joe Grenuk <jgre...@aol.com> wrote:
> Yep, no one has any sense of humor anymore. Can't poke any fun at
> anyone for fear of offending someone. The list of verboten subjects is

Problem isn't the poking.. there's lots of really funny gay jokes out
there. Problem is, none are in this thread :) Muggle's half-assed
attempt at playground humor and atrocious spelling aren't entertaining
in the slightest. Thank goodness we have Levi around - he's got more
of a sense of humor than all you 'old white men' combined :)

[pinman00]

This thread is ridiculous, offensive, and down right sick. How about
we have a (insert racial slur here) pinball machine? It's the same
concept and it's uncalled for. Like others have said here, there are
many homosexuals in the pinball hobby, along with people of different
races, religions, financial situations, you name it somebody of that
"group" probably likes pinball. It has nothing to do with restricting
humor, it has to do with common decency and respect for people from
all walks of life. I know personally the struggles that gay people go
through and many would find this thread very offensive. To those of
you who have said some of the offensive things in this thread, I hope
one of your loved ones turns out to be a homosexual so that you can
personally see the struggles they go through in life, maybe it will
open your eyes and teach you to be more accepting of others. *end of
rant*

[James Lewis]

When someone or something is pushed upon or pushes themselves upon the
public as has happened with homosexuality there is going to be a
reaction be it good or bad. Homosexuality is being pushed in everyones
face either by the gays themselves or the pro homosexual government.
They had the same rights as everyone else before this happened but now
they are supposed to be exalted and protected and excepted by everyone
else. And you wonder why some are sick of them and make crude remarks.
If you don't like the publicity then take your sexuality back in the
bedroom where it belongs.

Also, Homosexuality is NOT the same as race. A black, Latin, Asian or
whatever person cannot stop being what he/ she is. A homosexual chooses
to be homosexual and can choose not to act on his impulses.


--
James Lewis

[JimS]

> Also, Homosexuality is NOT the same as race. A black, Latin, Asian or
> whatever person cannot stop being what he/ she is. A homosexual chooses
> to be homosexual and can choose not to act on his impulses.
>
> --
> James Lewis
> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com

James,

This probably doesn't belong on RGP but I still feel a need to
respond. I don't expect to change your mind but I'll ask a few
questions anyway. Do you feel like you are "choosing" to be attracted
to women? Do you feel like you would be capable of "choosing" to be
equally attracted to men? If you answer "yes" to these questions, the
I can understand your postition. However, if you answer "no" please
consider the following.

Personally, I feel hard-wired to be attacted to women, It doesn't seem
like a "choice". However, I know people who feel just as hard-wired in
the opposite direction. I have also met some people who don't seem so
strongly wired in a particular sexual preference and are able to base
who they're attracted to on just personality. It makes perfect sense
to me given all the variations in nature that sexual preference would
be on a continuum with those who are strongly biased towards the
opposite sex on one end and those who are strongly biased to the same
sex on the other. I also think it's a normal part of human psychology
for some people to choose to go against their natural inclinations, to
either fit into or go against societal norms. However IMHO these
people are in the minority.

After all is said and done, don't you think we all deserve the same
rights? I do.

Jim

[metallik]

On Jun 5, 1:47 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> When someone or something is pushed upon or pushes themselves upon the
> public as has happened with homosexuality there is going to be a
> reaction be it good or bad. Homosexuality is being pushed in everyones
> face either by the gays themselves or the pro homosexual government.

Wrong.

> They had the same rights as everyone else before this happened but now

Wrong again.

> Also, Homosexuality is NOT the same as race. A black, Latin, Asian or
> whatever person cannot stop being what he/ she is. A homosexual chooses
> to be homosexual and can choose not to act on his impulses.

Oh man, you are so, so wrong. But thanks for playing; parting gifts
are in the lobby. Fortunately, ignorant 'old white men' like yourself
are slowly becoming a significant minority :)

[Pacpin]

hahaha, you sound so gay saying that!


--
Pacpin

[ldnayman]

On Jun 5, 1:47 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> When someone or something is pushed upon or pushes themselves upon the

> public as has happened with Christianity there is going to be a
> reaction be it good or bad. Christianity is being pushed in everyones
> face either by the Christians themselves or the pro Christianity government.

> They had the same rights as everyone else before this happened but now
> they are supposed to be exalted and protected and excepted by everyone
> else. And you wonder why some are sick of them and make crude remarks.

> If you don't like the publicity then take your religion back in the
> bedroom where it belongs.
>

You always bring the crazy James, that's why we love you!

[JimS]

Oh, nice word swap there...clever, clever :-)

Jim

[apimomfan2]

vanilla;1951256 Wrote:

> On Jun 4, 3:59*pm, "cody chunn" <cchu... (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:
> > Your homophobia is showing under your skirt.
> >
> > -cody
> >
> > PS: you are not funny
> >
>
> I agree. This is not cool.
>
> One can select from this thread who to avoid in person.

It sounds funnier with a sheet over your head.


--
apimomfan2

[James Lewis]

You certainly don't deserve disrespect or to be abused and you have and
always have had the same rights as anyone else but you don't deserve
preferential treatment as many liberals, the media and the gov say that
you do.

As far as choosing my sexual preference, I am hetero and I choose to be
that way. The difference is you say you were born that way,I say I was
designed that way. Homosexuality is a behavioral choice stemming from
many areas in life such . There is NO evidence except that there is a
gay gene. The pedophile can say that he was born that way and is only
attracted to children The same argument can be made, and it is being
made now in Europe, that pedophilia is just another sexual deviation.
All this garbage is easy to swallow when you are told that you are just
another animal, that you evolved from a single cell. Then you can do
whatever you want with no consequences. The fact is, we were designed
and we were designed male and female for a reason. Nothing comes from
nothing and life does not come from nonliving matter.

Back to choices, I would love to stick it to me neighbor as she's hot. I
would also liked to stick it to the woman that came on to me in a bar,
She was hot as well. I'm married, so I chose not to because its wrong.

The fact is, I really don't care what you do as your behavior is your
choice but I'm sick of it being thrown in my face every day everywhere I
go. If I don't here about gay marriage or gay rights or something of
that sort 10 times a day I'm lucky.

Sorry if this is all over the place.

[Pacpin]

I think by reading this thread, we can all tell who the gays are that
post on RGP. I also love it how the people 'defending' the gays point
out right off the bat "i'm hererosexual, but....." Haha, like no matter
how hard they try to argue against it, they still think it's an insult
to be considered gay. Like if you defend women's rights, you aren't
saying "First off, i'm a man, but women should have equal rights, etc".
That doesn't happen, but when a man defends gay men, he makes sure to
point out that he himself is not gay.


--
Pacpin

[ldnayman]

Gays have the right to bitch about their treatment and restricted
civil rights, and you have the right to be disgusted by it. It's
really as simple as that.

I find the fact that we are still arguing about in 2012 to be quite
HALRIOUS. The U.S. is so far behind much of the world in many
respects.

[James Lewis]

HALRIOUS. The U.S. is so far behind much of the world in many
respects.

Yes Levi but thanks to liberals and a liberal government the US is quicly
becoming a broke, in debt, no jobs, overtaxed, welfare state piece of shit
like the rest of the world. We see how well socialism is doing in Europe.

[ldnayman]

On Jun 5, 3:39 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> HALRIOUS. The U.S. is so far behind much of the world in many
> respects.
>
> Yes Levi but thanks to liberals and a liberal government the US is quicly
> becoming a broke, in debt, no jobs, overtaxed, welfare state piece of shit
> like the rest of the world. We see how well socialism is doing in Europe.
>

James, you know I don't care about any of that shit.

Since I know that hardcore intellectuals like yourself are on the
case, I can rest easy at night knowing you'll sort it out for me.

Thanks bro!

[apimomfan2]

James Lewis;1951611 Wrote:
>
>
> I'm sick of it being thrown in my face every day everywhere I go. If I
> don't here about gay marriage or gay rights or something of that sort 10
> times a day I'm lucky.

Then change the channel, Einstein.


--
apimomfan2

[Pinball Muggle]

Oops - misspelled some words … sorry guys (and others). = )


--
Pinball Muggle

[JimS]

 I also love it how the people 'defending' the gays point
> out right off the bat "i'm hererosexual, but....."  Haha, like no matter
> how hard they try to argue against it, they still think it's an insult
> to be considered gay.

Or perhaps we just want to make the point that you don't have to be
homosexual to believe we should all be treated equally. Usually, when
someone is defending woman's rights, their gender is obvious by
appearance or name.

Jim

[JimS]

> As far as choosing my sexual preference, I am hetero and I choose to be
> that way. The difference is you say you were born that way,I say I was
> designed that way.  Homosexuality is a behavioral choice stemming from
> many areas in life such . There is NO evidence except that there is a
> gay gene.

You make valid points considering your underlying beliefs. It
reinforces the realization of how much our actions and thoughts are
determined by many unprovable beliefs.

I've seen enough examples of children who appeared to be homosexual at
a very young age turn out to be homosexual, that I don't believe it is
a "choice", however I can't prove it.

Even if it were proven they were "designed" that way. Someone could
ask the question, "By Whom?". Someone could believe the devil designed
them that way so they're just deviants who don't deserve any rights.
How can such beliefs be proven wrong?

And so it has gone throughout history. Now it's sexual preference
discrimination. Before that it was racial discrimination. Before that
it was discrimination against women.

I have hope that we as a society will continue to make the correct
choices.

Jim

[James Lewis]

I've seen enough examples of children who appeared to be homosexual at
a very young age turn out to be homosexual, that I don't believe it is
a "choice", however I can't prove it.

If the child is told this behavior is wrong and steered away from it in
many cases the behavior would cease. The same as stealing of other
detrimental behavior. We can agree or disagree but I would think you
would have to admit that the homosexual lifestyle is a tough life to
live in many ways. Wouldn't you want a child to not have to experience
that.

I hope I have been respectful to you in my answers.


--
James Lewis

[ldnayman]

I would like to nominate HALRIOUS as the worst spelling error ever in
RGP history. And that's saying something, especially considering how
long James has been posting here.

If anybody can think of anything that tops HALRIOUS I'd like to see
it. Though I admit googling for typos is gonna be tough.

[JimS]

Agreed the homosexual lifestyle seems like a tough life to live in
many ways and not one I would choose for my child (given the choice).
The child might be steered away from the behavior, but at what cost? I
would think that accepting them for who they are (and were born to be)
would give them the best chance at finding happiness in the long run.
A society that did not punish or ostracize them would greatly ease the
difficulty as well.

I hope I have been respectful to you in my answers as well.

Jim

[James Lewis]

What about a child that steals or molests his little sister or torments
and kills animals, should that behavior be allowed? Should we accept
them for what they are? I of course don't think that homosexuality is as
harmful as these examples but I'm using them to make my point. You could
not allow the kids to do these things. They in some way would have to be
steered away from that behavior or their lives would be ruined. Children
must me taught good behavior and steered away from bad. The idea that
letting a child do as he wants and finding his own way causes all kinds
of societal problems. Look at latchkey kids who's parents are never home
to guide them or parents who just don't give a shit. How many of them
wind up in jail. My wife is a teacher and she can point out these
children the first day of class in most cases.

Again I hope I am showing you respect even though we don't agree.

[metallik]

> What about a child that steals or molests his little sister or torments
> and kills animals, should that behavior be allowed? Should we accept
> them for what they are? I of course don't think that homosexuality is as
> harmful as these examples

Homosexuality is not harmful at all. Gays are God's answer for human
overcrowding and population control. The old standbys (war, famine
and pestilence) were such downers that He found a better way to limit
our exponential growth (which is really the root of most of society's
problems today).

What's funny is that my conjecture above is just as valid as any of
the stuff you believe :)

[JimS]

>
> What about a child that steals or molests his little sister or torments
> and kills animals, should that behavior be allowed? Should we accept
> them for what they are? I of course don't think that homosexuality is as
> harmful as these examples but I'm using them to make my point. You could
> not allow the kids to do these things. They in some way would have to be
> steered away from that behavior or their lives would be ruined. Children
> must me taught good behavior and steered away from bad. The idea that
> letting a child do as he wants and finding his own way causes all kinds
> of societal problems. Look at latchkey kids who's parents are never home
> to guide them or parents who just don't give a shit. How many of them
> wind up in jail. My wife is a teacher and she can point out these
> children the first day of class in most cases.
>
> Again I hope I am showing you respect even though we don't agree.
>
> --
> James Lewis

> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com- Hide quoted text -
>
I was taught that my rights end at the point my behavior hurts others.
I don't believe a person's sexual preference, whether they're a child
or an adult, conflicts with this philosophy.

And yes, this has been a mutually respectful discussion even though we
disagree. Thanks.

Jim

[stevenp]

ldnayman;1951104 Wrote:
> On Jun 4, 4:15*pm, Joe Grenuk <jgre... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
> > > The gays are ruining the English language.
> >
> > No, Levi, you meant to say that the gays are queering the English
> > language. * *:)
>
>
>
> They are buggering it all up for sure.

Looking at the original post, it's clear to me that some "hetrosexuals"
are doing a damned good job of screwing it up themselves.

(P.S. Levi, sorry but I gotta do this: 'revelation'--at least you fit
right in with the hetros!)


--
stevenp

[goatdan]

On Jun 5, 1:58 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> If I don't here about gay marriage or gay rights or something of
> that sort 10 times a day I'm lucky.

I used to work in an industry where I was one of the very few straight
males in it, and everyone jokingly made fun of me for being straight,
and even then I don't think that I had gay marriage or gay rights
thrown in my face 10 times a day. What are you doing that people are
talking about it that much with you?

I've said this above the topic for a long time -- when you look at
history, it amazes a lot of people that "all men are created equal"
meant all white men, no females, for the longest time. Slowly, little
by little, we have allowed minorities of all types to do things
equally. When my two year old grows up, I don't want him to ask me
why my generation wouldn't allow gay people to marry, the same way
that I remember asking my grandma when I was young why her generation
hated black people.

On top of all of this, isn't the conservative stance usually for
'individual rights' and how the government shouldn't trample on your
freedom? If so, why does that apply to only the straight people.
It's one of those talking points that I've never really figured out
how people reconcile the two.

[fatality83]

Great you could have going in drywall multiball which is 3 balls. There
could be a blue oyster style toy where a regular shinyball goes In and a
pink ball comes out. The outlanes would be covered in mustaches and lube
bottles


--
fatality83

[JimS]

>
> Homosexuality is not harmful at all.  Gays are God's answer for human
> overcrowding and population control.  The old standbys (war, famine
> and pestilence) were such downers that He found a better way to limit
> our exponential growth (which is really the root of most of society's
> problems today).
>

In all seriousness, that could very well be the case. Good point
Metallik.

And to James, I should add that I figure the best I can do is teach my
daughter to be true to herself (but not at the expense of others) and
try to accept others for who they are, if she would like to be
accepted for who she is. The "golden rule" still works in my book and
takes care of all the molesting, torturing, etc.. concerns.

Jim

[James Lewis]

JimS;1951794 Wrote:
> >
> > Homosexuality is not harmful at all. *Gays are God's answer for human
> > overcrowding and population control. *The old standbys (war, famine

> > and pestilence) were such downers that He found a better way to limit
> > our exponential growth (which is really the root of most of society's
> > problems today).
> >
>
> In all seriousness, that could very well be the case. Good point
> Metallik.
>
> And to James, I should add that I figure the best I can do is teach my
> daughter to be true to herself (but not at the expense of others) and
> try to accept others for who they are, if she would like to be
> accepted for who she is. The "golden rule" still works in my book and
> takes care of all the molesting, torturing, etc.. concerns.
>
> Jim

Hey Jim I just wanted to say that regardless of my views on this subject
I do not wish you malice, in fact I wish you well. If we were ever to
meet I would say we could just avoid the subject and agree to disagree.


Take care

[Rare Hero]

On Jun 5, 5:43 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hey Jim I just wanted to say that regardless of my views on this subject
> I do not wish you malice, in fact I wish you well. If we were ever to
> meet I would say we could just avoid the subject and agree to disagree.
>
> Take care

Oh, would you two just blow each other already and get it over
with! :)

:) :) :) :) :)

Greg

[cody chunn]

"When someone or something is pushed upon or pushes themselves upon the

public as has happened with homosexuality there is going to be a
reaction be it good or bad. Homosexuality is being pushed in everyones
face either by the gays themselves or the pro homosexual government."

How is it being pushed in your face?

"They had the same rights as everyone else before this happened but now
they are supposed to be exalted and protected and excepted by everyone
else."

Really. No family insurance coverage. Can't bequeath an estate so the
government steals it. "Sodomy" still on the books as a crime.

"And you wonder why some are sick of them and make crude remarks.

If you don't like the publicity then take your sexuality back in the
bedroom where it belongs."

Yeah, you first stop preaching against it in churches.

"Also, Homosexuality is NOT the same as race. A black, Latin, Asian or
whatever person cannot stop being what he/ she is."

What about a white? What about a bigot?

"A homosexual chooses
to be homosexual and can choose not to act on his impulses."

So can you, but why would you? Why would anyone want you to, except the hope
you don't make more of your like?

---

"You certainly don't deserve disrespect or to be abused and you have and

always have had the same rights as anyone else..."

Patently a false statement.

"...but you don't deserve

preferential treatment as many liberals, the media and the gov say that
you do."

By being able to marry and have *equal* rights? What preferential treatment
are you talking about? To not be victims of hate crimes?

"As far as choosing my sexual preference, I am hetero and I choose to be
that way."

A right all Americans should have.

"The difference is you say you were born that way,I say I was
designed that way."

The is only a difference is semantics here. Same thing different term.

"Homosexuality is a behavioral choice stemming from
many areas in life such."

It absolutely doesn't matter. Choice or not, you should have the same civil
rights as everyone else.

"There is NO evidence except that there is a
gay gene."

That's pretty much evidence, if it exists.

"The pedophile can say that he was born that way and is only
attracted to children The same argument can be made, and it is being
made now in Europe, that pedophilia is just another sexual deviation."

Nice. Equating two willing, consenting adults to predators of children.
Entirely absurd and offensive.

"All this garbage is easy to swallow when you are told that you are just
another animal, that you evolved from a single cell. Then you can do
whatever you want with no consequences."

What an ignorant statement. Whether we were created or evolved does not
matter. Behavior that harms others is wrong. Two consenting adults in a
relationship doesn't harm anyone, except bigots.

"The fact is, we were designed
and we were designed male and female for a reason."

That is not a fact. That is your opinion.

"Nothing comes from
nothing and life does not come from nonliving matter."

You should think about that statement for a minute. Are stars alive? Because
that's what we're made of...literal stardust.

"Back to choices, I would love to stick it to me neighbor as she's hot. I
would also liked to stick it to the woman that came on to me in a bar,
She was hot as well. I'm married, so I chose not to because its wrong."

If you have fantasized about it, it's just as bad as if you did, so you
might as well go on and do what you were thinking.

"The fact is, I really don't care what you do as your behavior is your

choice but I'm sick of it being thrown in my face every day everywhere I

go. If I don't here about gay marriage or gay rights or something of
that sort 10 times a day I'm lucky."

I wonder what media outlets are so hung up on it, throwing it in your face?

"Sorry if this is all over the place."

Uh-huh.

---

"Yes Levi but thanks to liberals and a liberal government the US is quicly
becoming a broke, in debt, no jobs, overtaxed, welfare state piece of shit
like the rest of the world. We see how well socialism is doing in Europe."

Yeah, the country was BOOMING and the Constitution was all-sacred when Bush
was done. He ran us off a cliff and you blame the next guy.

---

"I've seen enough examples of children who appeared to be homosexual at
a very young age turn out to be homosexual, that I don't believe it is
a "choice", however I can't prove it."

Remember this:

"Homosexuality is a behavioral choice stemming from
many areas in life such."

Which one is it?

"If the child is told this behavior is wrong and steered away from it in
many cases the behavior would cease."

Who said it was wrong? What did Jesus say about it? The reason homosexuality
is "wrong" is because it doesn't propagate the 'species'. Although species
is too general a term. It doesn't make more of "you"...less taxpayers, less
soldiers, etc. If there's less of "you" there might be more of "them", and
THAT cannot be tolerated. When tribal population was limited it was vitally
important to make babies to ensure a fighting chance for the tribe to
survive. That is hardly valid today. In fact, overpopulation is a problem,
homosexuality is not.

"The same as stealing of other
detrimental behavior."

No, it's not. First it was pedophiles, now it's thieves. Homosexuals do not
steal anything from anyone by being gay.

"We can agree or disagree but I would think you
would have to admit that the homosexual lifestyle is a tough life to
live in many ways."

Only because of bigots!

"Wouldn't you want a child to not have to experience
that. "

If there were no bigots, they wouldn't!

"I hope I have been respectful to you in my answers."

---

"What about a child that steals or molests his little sister or torments
and kills animals, should that behavior be allowed?"

How can you keep equating homosexuality with theft and violence? Are you so
utterly brainwashed you just can't think about gays unless you can make them
villains?

"Should we accept
them for what they are? I of course don't think that homosexuality is as

harmful as these examples but I'm using them to make my point."

Not "as harmful" but harmful just the same. What harm do gays do you
exactly?

"You could
not allow the kids to do these things. They in some way would have to be
steered away from that behavior or their lives would be ruined."

How is a homosexual's life ruined? Oh yeah, by BIGOTS!

"Children must me taught good behavior and steered away from bad. The idea
that
letting a child do as he wants and finding his own way causes all kinds
of societal problems. Look at latchkey kids who's parents are never home
to guide them or parents who just don't give a shit. How many of them
wind up in jail. My wife is a teacher and she can point out these
children the first day of class in most cases."

You make a compelling argument for something, but I have no idea what it is.

"Again I hope I am showing you respect even though we don't agree."

---

James, for someone who throws his "christianity" in everyone's face all the
time you sure don't seem to practice what you preach. What did Jesus say
about gays?

I wouldn't have really cared, but you harp on religion so much and then your
asshole thread and now this. Why don't you put your political/religious
beliefs where you think gays should keep their sex life.

Give it a rest already.

-cody


"James Lewis" wrote in message news:James.Lew...@rrgparchive.com...

[Frank Furhter]

If you meat each others kneeds let us know the outcum.
Or shank and mank for the good old times.

[Dan Q very much]

I do see "abbreviation" misspelled as "acronym" a lot! ;)

[ldnayman]

Somebody had to say it.

[JimS]

> Hey Jim I just wanted to say that regardless of my views on this subject
> I do not wish you malice, in fact I wish you well. If we were ever to
> meet I would say we could just avoid the subject and agree to disagree.
>
> Take care
>
> --
> James Lewis
> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com

Yes, we can just agree to disagree. I wish you well and bear you no
malice as well, though I hope that some day you may change your mind
regarding this subject.

Regards,

Jim

[JimS]

On Jun 5, 6:29 pm, Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> Oh, would you two just blow each other already and get it over
> with!  :)
>
> :)   :)   :)   :)   :)
>
> Greg

Ha..Ha..Verrry Funny Greg! :-)

Jim

[Taylorva]

I guess James' mouth is too full to comment.


--
Taylorva

[Pacpin]

JimS;1951662 Wrote:
> *I also love it how the people 'defending' the gays point
> > out right off the bat "i'm hererosexual, but....." *Haha, like no

> matter
> > how hard they try to argue against it, they still think it's an
> insult
> > to be considered gay.
>
> Or perhaps we just want to make the point that you don't have to be
> homosexual to believe we should all be treated equally. Usually, when
> someone is defending woman's rights, their gender is obvious by
> appearance or name.
>
> Jim

But what would your sexual orientation have to do with you debating a
point you felt strongly about? Like why feel the need to mention it,
other than you are embarassed that if you defend gays that people might
think you are gay. And if you really thought being gay was OK, you
wouldn't care if people thought you were gay.


--
Pacpin

[IMMark]

Perhaps because some might perceive a bias.
Mark


--
IMMark

[Juan_Fingers]

It sounds to me like Brokenvette is suppressing homosexual tendencies
but he is CHOOSING to be heterosexual. The ironic thing is there are
a lot of gay men who are married with 2 kids. They just hide behind
hate speech because they are confused with there own feelings. Best
of luck to you

[ldnayman]

On Jun 6, 9:10 am, Juan_Fingers <lewbe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It sounds to me like Brokenvette is suppressing homosexual tendencies
> but he is CHOOSING to be heterosexual.  The ironic thing is there are
> a lot of gay men who are married with 2 kids.  They just hide behind
> hate speech because they are confused with there own feelings.  Best
> of luck to you

At this point, it's blatently obvious that James craves cock.

It's the ONLY answer. Nobody who is this obsessed with supressing
homosexuality could possibly be straight.

And look at the language he uses.."thrown in my face"..."stick it to
me" (oddly when trying to say he wants to bone his neighbor)..."easy
to swallow..."

I think the proof is in the pudding.

He and Pacpin should get together and work this shit out, if you know
what I mean!

[pinman00]

"If you don't like the publicity then take your sexuality back in the
bedroom where it belongs."

MY Sexuality is in the bedroom, My rights are not. There wouldn't be
so much media attention if Homosexuals were just given the EXACT SAME
rights as everyone else.

"Also, Homosexuality is NOT the same as race. A black, Latin, Asian or

whatever person cannot stop being what he/ she is. A homosexual

chooses
to be homosexual and can choose not to act on his impulses."

Sexuality has nothing to do with acting on impulses, A homosexual can
make him or herself straight just as easily as a black person can
become white. It isn't possible. I am a gay man and I did not choose
to be gay. I grew up in a family that is very against homosexuality,
and because I have a gay cousin I had masculinity shoved down my
throat my entire life. If you met me you would never guess that I am
gay unless I told you. I went to school for auto mechanics for Christ
sake! If I could choose to be straight, you better believe that I
would.

"hahaha, you sound so gay saying that!"

I am. And I'm not afraid to admit it.

"You certainly don't deserve disrespect or to be abused and you have
and

always have had the same rights as anyone else but you don't deserve

preferential treatment as many liberals, the media and the gov say
that
you do."

EQUAL RIGHTS is not Preferential treatment, it's EQUAL treatment for
all.

"As far as choosing my sexual preference, I am hetero and I choose to
be

that way. The difference is you say you were born that way,I say I was
designed that way. Homosexuality is a behavioral choice stemming from
many areas in life such . There is NO evidence except that there is a
gay gene. The pedophile can say that he was born that way and is only

attracted to children The same argument can be made, and it is being
made now in Europe, that pedophilia is just another sexual deviation.

All this garbage is easy to swallow when you are told that you are
just
another animal, that you evolved from a single cell. Then you can do

whatever you want with no consequences. The fact is, we were designed
and we were designed male and female for a reason. Nothing comes from

nothing and life does not come from nonliving matter."

I'm sorry but this is just asinine.

"Back to choices, I would love to stick it to me neighbor as she's
hot. I
would also liked to stick it to the woman that came on to me in a bar,
She was hot as well. I'm married, so I chose not to because its
wrong."

I have made the same choices, I am in a committed relationship and
choose not to go after the guys that I find hot in the bar because it
IS wrong.

"The fact is, I really don't care what you do as your behavior is your
choice but I'm sick of it being thrown in my face every day everywhere
I
go. If I don't here about gay marriage or gay rights or something of
that sort 10 times a day I'm lucky"

It won't be thrown in your face if you treat homosexuals as equals.

"Yes Levi but thanks to liberals and a liberal government the US is
quicly
becoming a broke, in debt, no jobs, overtaxed, welfare state piece of
shit
like the rest of the world. We see how well socialism is doing in
Europe."

I'm Gay and I'm a conservative, I'm not the only one either. Equal
rights has nothing to do with Liberals/Conservatives. It's a civil
rights matter that people on both sides of the fence stand behind.

"And so it has gone throughout history. Now it's sexual preference
discrimination. Before that it was racial discrimination. Before that
it was discrimination against women."

Exactly, and as my Grandmother has always said, "this too shall pass"

"If the child is told this behavior is wrong and steered away from it
in
many cases the behavior would cease. The same as stealing of other
detrimental behavior. We can agree or disagree but I would think you
would have to admit that the homosexual lifestyle is a tough life to
live in many ways. Wouldn't you want a child to not have to experience
that."

I didn't appear to be homosexual as a child, yet I was told that being
gay is wrong, I was shown that anything less than 100% Masculinity is
wrong, and I was taught that real men don't show there feelings. All
this did was fuck my childhood and early adulthood up. Trust me
showing a child that homosexuality is wrong doesn't change who they
are. Like I previously stated you would never guess that I'm gay.

"Agreed the homosexual lifestyle seems like a tough life to live in
many ways and not one I would choose for my child (given the choice).
The child might be steered away from the behavior, but at what cost? I
would think that accepting them for who they are (and were born to be)
would give them the best chance at finding happiness in the long run.
A society that did not punish or ostracize them would greatly ease the
difficulty as well."

You're a good man Jim.

"What about a child that steals or molests his little sister or
torments
and kills animals, should that behavior be allowed? Should we accept
them for what they are?"

Homosexuality and these examples are in no way connected.

"I was taught that my rights end at the point my behavior hurts
others.
I don't believe a person's sexual preference, whether they're a child
or an adult, conflicts with this philosophy."

I completely agree, this is exactly why laws limiting gay rights are
totally wrong.

"On top of all of this, isn't the conservative stance usually for
'individual rights' and how the government shouldn't trample on your
freedom? If so, why does that apply to only the straight people.
It's one of those talking points that I've never really figured out
how people reconcile the two."

This is very convenient isn't it?

Cody Chunn I won't quote your entire post but you make many strong
intellectual arguments and it's great to see straight men stick up for
homosexuals. It shows that you're comfortable with your own sexuality,
unlike others here.

My point in all this, is that all people regardless of race, sexual
orientation, lifestyle, financial status, etc. should be treated with
respect as long as they are not hurting anyone. It's very unfortunate
that in this day and age we still have to argue about civil rights.
You would think that we would be past all of this. With that said I
also don't wish malice or harm on anyone that disagrees with me, I
just find it very unfortunate that you are that closed minded, and I
can only pray that if you find out a loved one is homosexual that you
treat him or her as an equal.

[ldnayman]

This is all pretty interesting, but as a proud gay Conservative, how
to you feel about the allegation that James is, in fact, desperatly
trying to suppress a all-econmpassing desire for gay sex?

I mean, it's possible, right?

[pinman00]

"This is all pretty interesting, but as a proud gay Conservative, how
to you feel about the allegation that James is, in fact, desperatly
trying to suppress a all-econmpassing desire for gay sex?

I mean, it's possible, right?"

Of course it's possible, To be completely honest, before I came out I
was very anti gay. I even argued in a debate way back when I was in
highschool that gay marriage should be illegal.

[Pacpin]

ok, so pinman00 is a gay, and James is a gay too. Is that what we've
learned from this thread so far? Anyone else wanna step forward?


--
Pacpin

[ldnayman]

On Jun 6, 10:46 am, Pacpin <jml_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ok, so pinman00 is a gay, and James is a gay too.  Is that what we've
> learned from this thread so far?  Anyone else wanna step forward?

We have also learned that you are gay.

[ldnayman]

I know we don't have to work with, but which role do you think James
would prefer, in the likely event that he is actually gay?

I kind of see him as a "power bottom."

[Pacpin]

ldnayman;1952075 Wrote:
> On Jun 6, 10:46*am, Pacpin <jml_... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> > ok, so pinman00 is a gay, and James is a gay too. *Is that what we've
> > learned from this thread so far? *Anyone else wanna step forward?

>
>
> We have also learned that you are gay.

Come on seriously, why are you insulting me? If you knew the amount of
chicks that i've drilled you would know that is not true.

[Frank Furhter]

Pacpin wrote:
> ldnayman;1952075 Wrote:
>> On Jun 6, 10:46*am, Pacpin<jml_... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>> ok, so pinman00 is a gay, and James is a gay too. *Is that what we've
>>> learned from this thread so far? *Anyone else wanna step forward?
>>
>>
>> We have also learned that you are gay.
>
> Come on seriously, why are you insulting me? If you knew the amount of
> chicks that i've drilled you would know that is not true.

Photo album?

[James Lewis]

Yea, you people just keep believing that. Women are just to yummy to
prefer another guys ass.


--
James Lewis

[ldnayman]

On Jun 6, 11:06 am, Pacpin <jml_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ldnayman;1952075 Wrote:
>
> > On Jun 6, 10:46*am, Pacpin <jml_... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> > > ok, so pinman00 is a gay, and James is a gay too. *Is that what we've
> > > learned from this thread so far? *Anyone else wanna step forward?
>
> > We have also learned that you are gay.
>
> Come on seriously, why are you insulting me?  If you knew the amount of
> chicks that i've drilled you would know that is not true.

Only a gay person would say this.