ANN: pinball.enthusiast.newsgroup
pinballnewsgroups.com
This is to announce the creation and launch of a newsgroup which will be
focused on providing discussion and help for the pinball community. It will
operate very similar as rec.games.pinball, and in fact uses the same NNTP
(newsgroup) technology. The rationale for this newsgroup is to create a
positive environment open to all who follow the guidelines to participate in
the newsgroup (mainly posting). We expect the pinball
(pinball.enthusiast.group and rec.games.pinball) newsgroups to co-exist
nicely, and the major differences are is that pinball.enthusiast.group will
a) have a set of user guidelines and a group of peers to monitor the group,
b) you will need an account/password (which is available to all) -AND- can
still be anonymous to others on the group (posting name, posting e-mail and
can change them at will). BUT, in cases where there issues, we can identify
the user and remove posts/account if needed, and c) small pictures (<30Kb)
can be posted.
We will attempt to strike a balance of accountabiltiy in posts while
maintaining a public degree of anonymity as desired, which we believe will
allow for a constructive environment which is sometimes difficult in a fully
open anonymous setting. Those posting to the newsgroup will be able to do so
within the published guidelines which are basically in a postive,
constructive, and helpful tone, and we will also have a number of newsgroup
senior folks - a group of peers (g...@pinballnewsgroups.com) responsible for
insuring that the newsgroup stays on that track. Note that this newsgroup is
a private newsgroup and is not associated in any way with usenet newsgroups,
etc. It is also open to all - all pinball enthusiasts whether you own a
pinball or not, all vendors and suppliers, etc - this is not a commercial
venture in any way..
We encourage all of you to get an account and use these side by side (as in
newsreaders like Outlook Express, etc). In addition, there is also a web
interface for the pinball.enthusiast.group as well. To request an account,
we will ask for Name, E-mail, Phone # which will be kept private and used
only to administer the newsgroup. You can send this to
subs...@pinballnewsgroups.com - after a quick review and possible
additional e-mail to confirm, you will be sent an account/password and setup
info, which for those using newsreaders will configure into your favorite
newsreader, and otherwise you can always access and post to the group thru
the web interface at www.pinballnewsgroups.com
There is a full overview of the current FAQ and Guidelines on the newsgroup
now, which can be accesed via newsreaders without a account/password
(read-only, no posting) using the configuration:
NNTP Server: news.pinballnewsgroups.com
Subscribe To: pinball.enthusiast.group
Note, with the launch there may be a slight delay of 1-2 days due to
potential large number of requests, we will do our best to process these
requests as quickly as possible.
postm...@pinballnewsgroups.com
norma...@hotmail.com
AB
pinballnewsgroups.com
group ... open to all
cch...@comcast.net
-cody
CARGPB#4
Koz Pinlicious
who is this assclown looking for self-promotion by TRYING to start -YET
ANOTHER- newsgroup?
all you need to do is grow a little fore-skin and you can survive just
fine on rgp :-)
Pinlicious ( ...there is no spoon.)
Eric A.
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groups?... pffft
metallik
Count me out. This group right here is the best.
Randy P.
want to talk rationally about pinball, and none of the hate-spewing
malcontents who seem to permeate RGP these days. Sounds cool to me ;-)
Randy
"pinballnewsgroups.com" <postm...@pinballnewsgroups.com> wrote in message
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Lloyd Olson
return, as well as those that are hesitant to post. Everybody that
contributes helps everbody. LTG :)
"Randy P." <pin...@REMOVEthepecks.com> wrote in message
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GA Pinhead
John!
cch...@comcast.net
and offenses get thrown around. I am guilty of all of that and regret
some things I've said here. But I won't let my pride or stupidity keep
me off the group. Life's too short. Enjoy it and participate while you
can, 'cause way too soon it's Game Over.
-cody
CARGPB#4
azarca...@cox.net
visit regularly. nothing is perfect fellas. even moderated groups have
issues, mostly favroritism.
as long as rgp has cliff im not going anywhere.
Kenbo
RGP doesn't seem bad to me. A private group is sort of like a gated
community and the idea offends my sensibilities.
Manic
here... I for one sure don't have time to check yet another group.
Let's keep the info, tips, reviews and fussing in ONE place.
Makes it easier to google search later ;-)
--
*Because John Shields HATES to see people's collections:*
M.M, C.V, N.G.G, T.O.M, J.Y, N.F, J.D, P.M, J.M,
Shad*w, C.F.T.B.L, A.F.M, F.T, W.W, L.O.T.R, T.S.P.P
"pinballnewsgroups.com" <postm...@pinballnewsgroups.com> wrote in message
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Donnie Barnes
> On 4 Sep 2005 16:03:53 -0700, azarca...@cox.net wrote:
>>actually rgp has the least amount of hate being spewed of the groups i
>>visit regularly. nothing is perfect fellas. even moderated groups have
>>issues, mostly favroritism.
>>
>>as long as rgp has cliff im not going anywhere.
I believe the new group has cliffy, too.
> RGP doesn't seem bad to me. A private group is sort of like a gated
> community and the idea offends my sensibilities.
It's not a private group, though. It's simply a group where hate spewing
won't be tolerated. Conflicting opinions will be. Pinball topics will be.
Off topic stuff probably won't be. Being a jerk to other folks won't be.
Personally, I'd prefer the same group to have setup a web forum instead of
another news server. Easier to administer and easier for most people to
use. More features, too (like email notification on thread replies if you
want them, inline pictures, private messaging, etc). I'm very much in
favor of the idea, but I probably won't check it since it's another NNTP
server and I'm not an Outlook Express user (and never will be).
--Donnie
--
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pinballnewsgroups.com
correct, it's not a private group, just a monitored one with guidelines,
monitored by long standing rgp'ers.
It does have a web forum as well as NNTP Newserver, so the best of both -
the web interface is at www.pinballnewsgroups.com and does include e-mail
alerts, inline pictures.
Ron Strom
my tongue on a lot of the stuff I see here lately.
--
Ron -- CARGPB7
ron...@asisnotapplicable.com (change not applicable to na)
In article <362dnQwGLdw...@pghconnect.com>, l...@ssbilliards.com
says...
Ron Strom
group.
In article <EMmdnRWiDrq...@comcast.com>,
postm...@pinballnewsgroups.com says...
> Subject: ANN: Launch of pinball.enthusiast.group Newsgroup
>
> This is to announce the creation and launch of a newsgroup which will be
> focused on providing discussion and help for the pinball community. It will
> operate very similar as rec.games.pinball, and in fact uses the same NNTP
> (newsgroup) technology. The rationale for this newsgroup is to create a
> positive environment open to all who follow the guidelines to participate in
> the newsgroup (mainly posting).
[SNIP]...
Chris
Perhaps a minority, but nonetheless you should know.
Chris
"Ron Strom" <SeeM...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Kenbo
<djbSPA...@donniebarnes.com> wrote:
[...]
>On Sun, 04 Sep, Kenbo wrote:
>> RGP doesn't seem bad to me. A private group is sort of like a gated
>> community and the idea offends my sensibilities.
>
>It's not a private group, though. It's simply a group where hate spewing
>won't be tolerated. Conflicting opinions will be. Pinball topics will be.
>Off topic stuff probably won't be. Being a jerk to other folks won't be.
>
I've seen groups like this and they always seem to end up squashing
conversations that aren't popular.
For example, I visit several tractor boards. One of them has
moderators and they all own Kubota tractors. Anyone who reports a
problem or complains about a Kubota get's belittled and driven off the
board. By the moderators! Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I don't
bother with that board anymore.
Ceegary
archives is one place. I'll pass for now unless I hear that it's really a
happening thing.
GRY
"Kenbo" <Ke...@NOqsolvJUNKMAIL.com> wrote in message
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Cliffy
in many pinball related forums and groups. Yep, I got signed up on PEG
too. What the heck, try it out, I say, see if it's happenin'.
I'm also on marty's EM yahoo group, Ken Layton's prewar pinball yahoo
group, The VP forums, shiva, nirvana and a german group. Occasionally
I'll pop in on #pinball on irc too. Dude, I'm everywhere! :P
--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com
PT
John
Lloyd Olson
"Ron Strom" <SeeM...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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TheKorn
> I'm slowly working my way back in Lloyd and am struggling REAL hard to
> bite my tongue on a lot of the stuff I see here lately.
I'd been wondering where you were, Ron! :)
Manic
--
*Because John Shields HATES to see people's collections:*
M.M, C.V, N.G.G, T.O.M, J.Y, N.F, J.D, P.M, J.M,
Shad*w, C.F.T.B.L, A.F.M, F.T, W.W, L.O.T.R, T.S.P.P
"pinballnewsgroups.com" <postm...@pinballnewsgroups.com> wrote in message
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Donnie Barnes
Wow, not bad. Not bad at all.
Donnie Barnes
> I've seen groups like this and they always seem to end up squashing
> conversations that aren't popular.
Time will tell.
> For example, I visit several tractor boards. One of them has
> moderators and they all own Kubota tractors. Anyone who reports a
> problem or complains about a Kubota get's belittled and driven off the
> board. By the moderators! Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I don't
> bother with that board anymore.
Well, all the moderators of this group don't own the same brand of pinball
machines.
Why condemn it to failure until you try it? Not every moderated group is
bad. Not even close, IMHO.
Kenbo
<djbSPA...@donniebarnes.com> wrote:
[...]
>
>Why condemn it to failure until you try it? Not every moderated group is
>bad. Not even close, IMHO.
They never are, as long as you agree with the moderators.
dianebrat
> anyone can participate so long as they are positive and constructive in
> the group ... open to all
>
In the famous words of Cosmo Kramer..
..............I'm out...
;-)
Diane
Paul
told in no uncertain terms that it probably wouldnt be used. So gave up
on that idea :)
It's down to people. Some like NG's. Some like Web-based. Each to their
own, and to what they are used to.
Paul
Fred Kemper
It's too bad that many will feel the need
to shoot it down without even a chance.
Well, I'm in at least until I'm thrown out. ;)
--
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
******************
over...@spam.ftc.gov
vendors and ebay ripoffs? Want to make sure your audience doesn't know
about your scams?
Then you need to form your own group where no one is allowed to tell
the truth.
The great lie. (If you believe it, I have some mirror goosed pinballs
I'd like to sell you.)
Fortunately, I don't need to tell you to go away, you've already done
that.
I don't intend to visit -- I don't believe Gene or Gary or any other
of the people who say they're going to do something and don't do
anything except call the lawyers.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe in your good intentions.
Jim
On 4 Sep 2005 12:36:02 -0700, "metallik" <lsc...@dlptech.com> wrote:
>Yet another attempt to moderate/control/censor RGP.
>
>Count me out. This group right here is the best.
Donnie Barnes
Or when they have moderate moderators.
pinballnewsgroups.com
keep a positive and constructive tone and don't go far away from the
guidelines, then quite frankly there is no need to moderate.
Manic
the second time I've asked. Seems like a simple and
appropriate question.
"pinballnewsgroups.com" <postm...@pinballnewsgroups.com> wrote in message
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Ray Johnson - Action Pinball
There's 4 or 5 others. I'll let the others speak for themselves if they
wish (not sure what the etiqutte is with the group yet).
Looks to be a good fun group. The more pinball, the merrier!
Ray J.
--
Action Pinball & Amusement, LLC
Salt Lake City, Utah USA
Web: www.actionpinball.com
We're serious about pinball. Anything else is just for fun!
"Manic" <manicmusic...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Lloyd Olson
LTG :)
"Ray Johnson - Action Pinball" <st...@actionpinball.com> wrote in message
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Mark Salas
Manic wrote:
> I think there are already more than enough informative posts over
> here... I for one sure don't have time to check yet another group.
Not trying to be a smart aleck. If you are not interested or do not
have the time why are you responding to this topic numerous times? Just
curious.
> Let's keep the info, tips, reviews and fussing in ONE place.
Who made you king of the playground :) I want reviews in MORE than ONE
place.
raptor68_428
Sounds good, this is web-based? How do you get to it? I lost the original
posts...
Lloyd Olson
"raptor68_428" <raptor68_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Manic
"Mark Salas" <msa...@salascorp.com> wrote in message
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>
> Manic wrote:
> > I think there are already more than enough informative posts over
> > here... I for one sure don't have time to check yet another group.
>
> Not trying to be a smart aleck. If you are not interested or do not
> have the time why are you responding to this topic numerous times? Just
> curious.
Well since you are curious I never said I wasn't interested... and since
this is the one group I like to come to I'll probably keep checking the
thread.
>
>
> > Let's keep the info, tips, reviews and fussing in ONE place.
>
> Who made you king of the playground :) I want reviews in MORE than ONE
> place.
That's what makes the world go round - have fun.
Wolffy
the weekend. I've come to the conclusion that while this idea may sound
good on paper I don't think it will work in implementation.
Over at the Chicago Pinball Mafia we have a forum and I don't get much
time to check that... and I'm one of the founders over there. I can't
see myself having time to check a thrid place to go.
I also don't like the idea of moderation. I think it's going to end the
laid back atmosphere that most of us enjoy from the friendships we have
here. For example when we post the TGOM reviews it has the disclaimer
that these things are intenitonally juvenile. I can see moderators
filtering out tons of valid opinions because we might feel strongly
enough about that opinion that some preacher's wife would take offense.
I also don't like moderation because some of the people who are in
charge of filtering out posts don't know who I am. Is it really fair to
me for a moderator to say "screw wollfy Lloyd can offer tech help" and
not have my assistance posted? I can see this happening in a moderated
group more than anyone would like to believe.
So from my stand point... any new web pages, tech help, reviews, or just
love for the game... I'll keep it real and keep it at RGP. You'll never
get to the real guts of the game if you make sure everything is 100%
sugar coded and approved by big brother.
-wolffy
nomad
new forum in 3 words: Too much Gary;)
nomad
Joseph 'Tony' Dziedzic
suggestion. In the light of recent events it's not too hard to imagine
the hosting server(s) becoming inaccessible due to various forms of
natural (or man-made) disasters. Usenet being a distributed entity
doesn't suffer from these failure scenarios. Additionally, you lose
access via public archives (such as Google).
If you feel a moderated group is really necessary then create
rec.games.pinball.moderated via the standard RFC mechanism; I'd be
surprised if you couldn't get enough votes.
Joseph "Tony" Dziedzic
PT
the conventional wisdom pushes it back under a rock. A few years ago
(as a newbee) I even started a thread suggesting a moderated newsgroup
(because of a certain troll poster before Gary's time). What I was
suggesting was a "moderated usenet newsgroup" not a "moderated web
forum" - big difference. I have since seen the light that moderators
are a bad thing. They lead to group think and huge moderator egos.
Despite the misleading text of the announcement at the top of this
thread; PINBALL.ENTHUSIAST.NEWSGROUP IS NOT REALLY A NEWSGROUP!! It
could go away or be reset tomorrow and all historical posts would be
lost forever. RGP IS A NEWSGROUP ON THE USENET and will remain cached
on Google until the end of time. For those of you who don't know the
difference between a "web forum" and a "usenet newsgroup" I suggest you
study up. On the surface they appear similar, but they are completely
different.
RGP is actually quite civil compared to most unmoderated forums and
newsgroups. Pinball people are good people for the most part. Sure
there are debates and different points of view, but very rarely hate is
spewed. Those threads are easily ignored anyway.
Fortunately this will work itself out in the end as the initial
interest in this alternate to RGP falls off and it is all but
forgotten. Unfortunately any informative posts and tech help will be
lost forever when it goes away.
>new forum in 3 words: Too much Gary;)
If that is the case then I wish the new moderated web based forum all
the luck in the world! Just post your tech questions and help over
here in RGP, so they will be cached by google (Gary doesn't care about
tech posts anyway).
John
kirb
>won't be tolerated. Conflicting opinions will be. Pinball topics will be.
>Off topic stuff probably won't be. Being a jerk to other folks won't be.
Who says so? some "group" of people decide who stays and who goes. No
thanks.
This all starts with good intentions and then something happens and
good people get tossed and the ones who have control moderate to their
"standards".
Kirb
John Wart, jr
interface similar to google groups
I don't mind visiting both myself, but that's my choice.
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record is quite amusing:
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Care to reveal your identity?
Joseph "Tony" Dziedzic
Lloyd Olson
that. You are wanted to post and help. But it is meant to avoid some of the
endless tirades and attacks. Of which you have suffered here, and even left
a few times. LTG :)
"Wolffy" <sendnospa...@gaspar.net> wrote in message
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pinballjim
>There's 4 or 5 others.
Are you guys gonna have 3 or 4 hour long chat room meetings?
Kenbo
[...]
>RGP is actually quite civil compared to most unmoderated forums and
>newsgroups. Pinball people are good people for the most part. Sure
>there are debates and different points of view, but very rarely hate is
>spewed. Those threads are easily ignored anyway.
Judicious use of the killfile turns RGP into a very civil newsgroup.
pinballnewsgroups.com
message before posting. In either event, as with usenet newsgroups, it's
freedom of choice as with the other forums setup. It was setup to address a
particular problem, and I'm sure everyone can see faults with every other
mechanism to bring communities of people together, so to me more is not so
bad.
"PT" <zeec...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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pinballnewsgroups.com
usenet server goes down alot, as well as have lost posts as well.
Additionally, it's monitored more than moderated, there are a set of
guidelines, the only difference is that in this group more accountability is
available. Again, it's a choice that everyone can make, isn't it?
"Joseph 'Tony' Dziedzic" <ton...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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pinballnewsgroups.com
can take action (like really offensive posts, spam, etc).
"pinballnewsgroups.com" <postm...@pinballnewsgroups.com> wrote in message
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Steve Kulpa
Where you been hiding???
---
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Hermitage, TN
http://www.geocities.com/stevekulpa/rgpidx.htm
Ron Strom wrote:
> I'm slowly working my way back in Lloyd and am struggling REAL hard to bite
> my tongue on a lot of the stuff I see here lately.
> --
> Ron -- CARGPB7
Koz Pinlicious
is who sent out a load of e-mails.
Pinlicious ( ...there is no spoon.)
PT
>Seems my usenet server goes down alot, as well as
>have lost posts as well.
Your particular usenet server may have lost posts, but not mine and
probably not google. That's the whole point. By being on the usenet,
RGP is a public forum protected from failure in ways that your $10.95 a
month web-based, simulated newsgroup cannot match. RGP is way too
valuable to switch over to something that can be reset or simply go
away in the blink of an eye.
I have seen web based forums go away over night; only to re-appear on a
new server a few days later - sans all the previous posts. Talk about
frustrating.
>Additionally, it's monitored more
>than moderated, there are a set of guidelines, the only
>difference is that in this group more accountability is
>available. Again, it's a choice that everyone can make, isn't it?
Whatever - still don't see the need. There are few posts by a few
wayward individuals that can easily be ignored or filtered. Is that
really worth moving away from the bullet-proof usenet system that
serves us so well?
And I didn't catch your name? Or at least your previous RGP alias?
How do we know that you won't get fed up and stop paying the bill or
just shut out the lights? Personally I don't want any individual or
small group of individuals - let alone an anonymous one - to control
what should be a public forum and have the power to pull the plug in
anger at any given point.
John
Ron Strom
I lost interest completely in pins and the group over a year ago and gave my
Mystic and PinBot to my son in Bend Oregon and my EBD and Mousin' Around to
my other son in Eugene Oregon but kept my Fathom (and always will).
That lasted for a while until minor repairs over the net and phone got to be
a drag for them so I took the pins back. All of them sat beheaded for
months.
My wife and I inherited a new large home last October and finally finished
moving in December. Stuck all the beheaded pins in the large unfinished
(unfortunately) basement.
I started thinking "GAMEROOM!!!!" and thought about the work involved with
finishing another basement and since I'm still not "enthused" like I used to
be, quickly gave up on that idea.
I started lurking on the group about six months ago with a rare (probably
mean spirited;) post occasionally. From what I saw from certain new folks
and a lot of the same old predictable thorns, saw no reason to join in. Did
help to step back for awhile and see my previous self in some of their posts.
Sure is hard to "bite my tongue though ;-)
A few weeks ago I decided to setup a couple pins and resurrected the Mystic,
PinBot and Mousin' Around. The Mousin' Around had a flipper problem which I
posted and received a solution on from the group. While there I saw a post
from Cliffy about needing the PinBot wire gate above the pops and removed the
one from mine and sent it to him to repro. He in turn sent me an EOS switch
when he returned my gate. He never did tell me how much to reimburse him for
it.
I play a game or two on the pins now and then but the "Joy" is still not
back. Meanwhile the playable Fathom sits beheaded and I still have two
replacement PF's for it - one from Oliver that was touched-up and cleared by
Bill Davis and one of the repros. I also have the repro backglass, Pinball
Rescue plastics, a set of self-adhesive cabinet stencils. I even thought
about buying one of the new cabinets from Chris Munson but thought "what's
the point". Maybe someday it'll get finished.
At any rate I'm not hidin' now, just mostly lurkin' and trying to regain
interest.
Nice talkin' at you for a while but since I'm not a touch typist this is
getting a little long winded.
As always, all the best to you and yours,
--
Ron -- CARGPB7
ron...@asisnotapplicable.com (change not applicable to na)
In article <1126041994.0...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
steve...@yahoo.com says...
Ron Strom
In article <MPG.1d87ceaa...@news.sisna.com>, SeeM...@nowhere.net
says...
Cliffy
switch and thanks for the help with my PB :)
Ron Strom wrote:
> Shit! Supposed to go to email.
--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com
metallik
won't leave here, some will only post there, many will choose one or
the other, and RGP is fragmented and split apart. Not good IMHO.
Koz Pinlicious
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That isn't the intent of the group Wollfy. You of all people should
know
that. You are wanted to post and help. But it is meant to avoid some of
the
endless tirades and attacks. Of which you have suffered here, and even
left
a few times. LTG :)
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so he should go to the other group and leave rgp for good?
i took a look at the posts over there and it is so watered down you
would think sugar and spice were illegal.
to give you a pinball analogy, it is like san angeles 2032 with the
cryo-prison system. anyone who says anything out of line is considered
a scrap and they will eventually do away with them. i think the
demolition man summed it up the best...
"this fascist crap makes me want to puke"
Pinlicious ( ...there is no spoon.)
(the rumor is true, man are you guys out of the loop)
kirb
>nomad
I decided to keep an open mind and read through the posts. Hope they
enjoy their group.
One HUGE positive. Gary posts there (a lot) and not here. Fine by me.
That alone will keep me here (which I'm sure everyone there is happy
about).
Kirb
Manic
moderators or "monitors" so I dunno what I'm
bitching about... ;-)
Guess it's the worry of info getting spead out and
missed at one spot or the other but that's hardly a
big deal. Maybe I'm just scared of change ;-)
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*Because John Shields HATES to see people's collections:*
M.M, C.V, N.G.G, T.O.M, J.Y, N.F, J.D, P.M, J.M,
Shad*w, C.F.T.B.L, A.F.M, F.T, W.W, L.O.T.R, T.S.P.P
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kirb
>moderators or "monitors" so I dunno what I'm
>bitching about... ;-)
I do have to agree about the moderators.
Kirb
Ceegary
Still have to see what will settle as to what posts go to which group. It is
really appealing to discuss pins with good folk without having to wade
through some of the toxic stuff that appears here.
GRY
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well as backed up nightly, raid disks, as well as a backup system that can
be turned on to a separate server. We will also be mirroring in multiple
countries, and archiving to the web.
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