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Has Lyman Sheats left Stern?

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miracleman

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Jun 18, 2010, 12:44:21 PM6/18/10
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???

Jazman

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Jun 18, 2010, 12:48:21 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 11:44 am, miracleman <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ???

What prompted you to ask that question?

Jaz

JediTurtle

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Jun 18, 2010, 12:57:16 PM6/18/10
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Lloyd has made a couple comments in the BDK software thread that could
be taken that way. Not sure if there's other hints too.

Sure hope that's not the case!

toyboy6

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Jun 18, 2010, 1:31:49 PM6/18/10
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That would be devastating to say the least. Without Steve and Lyman,
I would not hold out hope for a lot of future development. That would
certainly be the end of a fantastic era for the silverball. Much love
for those two (as much as one guy can love another guy...you know what
I mean).

Scott

tktlwyr

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Jun 18, 2010, 1:38:33 PM6/18/10
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Someone posted on the Pinball Bash forum:

"Guys, I am not one to start rumors, but I have been told by a very
credible source that Lyman Sheats has left Stern."

I know miracleman is a member there, so perhaps that's where he read
it.

miracleman

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Jun 18, 2010, 1:38:49 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 12:48 pm, Jazman <cartra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What prompted you to ask that question?
> Jaz

http://pinballbash.com/forum/index.php?topic=5483.0

Bingovit

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Jun 18, 2010, 1:43:41 PM6/18/10
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I would be really surprised if he really left...
I'm going to say NO, Lyman is still there unless I get it
confirmed :-)


--Evert

PinAffliction

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Jun 18, 2010, 1:52:40 PM6/18/10
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I had been told last week he indeed has given his notice, but felt the
anouncement should come straight from the horses mouth so to speak,
you know how rumors go... but seems the cat is out of the bag.
A great loss to both Stern and us if/when confirmed.


Scott

azpinlawyer

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Jun 18, 2010, 1:54:47 PM6/18/10
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If this is true, it is indeed the death knell for Stern.

Lloyd Olson

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Jun 18, 2010, 2:08:21 PM6/18/10
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I'm sure stern will be fine. ( see the positive opinion there chuck and
steve ? no negativity from me, nothing hateful at all. Even though this is
how I make a living and not a hobby for me ) while it may change any chance
of deeper rule sets and great game play. With the direction stern is taking
zizzleizing pinball and making home models for Costco, etc. I'm sure pinball
is safe now.

Might be bad for ops or serious home market types. But having stern survive
is most important. LTG :)

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azpinlawyer

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Jun 18, 2010, 2:19:55 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 11:08 am, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
> I'm sure stern will be fine. ( see the positive opinion there chuck and
> steve ? no negativity from me, nothing hateful at all. Even though this is
> how I make a living and not a hobby for me ) while it may change any chance
> of deeper rule sets and great game play. With the direction stern is taking
> zizzleizing pinball and making home models for Costco, etc. I'm sure pinball
> is safe now.
>
> Might be bad for ops or serious home market types. But having stern survive
> is most important. LTG :)
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> > If this is true, it is indeed the death knell for Stern.- Hide quoted text -

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Zizzleizing. Nice.

Brian Munn

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Jun 18, 2010, 2:36:03 PM6/18/10
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Game Over, Man!!!!!

Stern is idioitic! He was the person saving Stern! I guess Iron Man
is complete.

PS - it ain't American if it's outsourced!

Brian
Detroit Pinball

erickit

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Jun 18, 2010, 2:43:24 PM6/18/10
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I think I read somewhere that the Kingpin code is incomplete.
:)

Eric

miracleman

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Jun 18, 2010, 2:45:30 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 2:19 pm, azpinlawyer <gregda...@mail2lawyer.com> wrote:
> Zizzleizing.  Nice.

BDKZ ???

TSPPZ ???

LOTRZ ???

Lloyd Olson

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Jun 18, 2010, 2:52:48 PM6/18/10
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ClosedZ

Game OverZ

Lights OutZ

LTG :(


Pinballer

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Jun 18, 2010, 2:59:50 PM6/18/10
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LTGZ, There you go talking negative again Lloyd. :-)


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chuck

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:01:18 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 1:54 pm, azpinlawyer <gregda...@mail2lawyer.com> wrote:

> If this is true, it is indeed the death knell for Stern.

Someone wise said, "Saving pinball has nothing to do with saving
Stern."

That said there are many good, hard working people still there. They
are people who are a lot like us who love pinball and do anything they
can to help make great machines. I haven't always agreed with what
Gary Stern has done or said; quite frankly I rarely agree ;-) But the
people who truly care about pinball still manage to make great
machines. So, those who campaign for Stern's failure and those who
hope for Stern's longevity don't start cheering/mourning yet. And
remember *if* Stern does eventually close its doors, pinball will
live.

In the mean time visit your local arcade or drop a buck or two into a
location machine. If the pins are filthy and don't work remind the
operator that even simple cleanings make pins play better. Of course
if you run into the ops who don't do anything to their pins and just
complain that they don't earn like they used to find another place to
go. If you have lots of well-maintained pins in your house invite your
neighbors over to play them =) Everyone who plays my machines wonders
why they don't see them in the wild anymore and they have a blast. If
you're ever near Kalamazoo drop me a line or go to http://www.klassicarcade.com/.
Kevin is a true fan of pinball and has lots of great machines.

Being a huge Bond fan I have to end with, "Never say never again."

Lloyd Olson

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:13:16 PM6/18/10
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CurseZ. Foiled againZ. LTGZ :)

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Jonny O

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:18:36 PM6/18/10
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Oh great, a new pinball meme is started: "If only Lyman hadn't
left..." Ten years from now you'll still be hearing it, just like
everyone says "If only they hadn't canceled pin 2000".

Stern should use all this pent up player drama to their advantage by
running their business more like the WWE. "In a shocking
announcement, after the next game, Lyman plans to retire from pinball!
And his last game will be a limited edition." And then everyone will
run out and pay tons of money for the game.

Then Lyman will disappear for a few months and return as evil Lyman.
He'll kidnap Gary Stern's daughter and hold her hostage unless gary
puts in the rules changes he demands. But then in a surprise move,
Steve Ritchie rescues her and Gary Stern is so overcome with gratitude
that he makes Steve his right hand man. They call themselves the
Double Jackpots.

But soon tensions arise over Steve's latest project. "Grass Yuck"
What a strange name for a pinball game, Gary thinks. "You're going to
love it, Gary" Steve assures him. The game begins production when
suddenly Gary gets a phone call from Pat Lawlor: "you moron, that's an
anagram for 'Gary Sucks'." The relationship falls to pieces and Gary
performs his signature finishing move, "STERN Discipline" on Steve
Ritchie. But Steve Ritchie hulks out and drags a pinball game from a
disused corner the warehouse. "Oh my god it's the Avatar white wood,
I knew it all along, Mean Gene!" Steve Ritchie choke slams Gary into
the cabinet causing the electronics to impossibly explode in a shower
of pyrotechnics.

It just writes itself.

chuck

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:22:51 PM6/18/10
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They also don't have the source. At least Gene doesn't.

Ron Lyons

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:24:28 PM6/18/10
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You forgot the part where Steve rips his shirt off, and points at Gary
and goes "YOU!~"

JediTurtle

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:24:47 PM6/18/10
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That is the post of the day. Awesome. And so true to the world of
pro wrestling. :)

I love the idea of Steve Ritchie "hulking up" and choke slamming
Gary. Brilliant!

Well done sir!
Chris

JediTurtle

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:26:01 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 2:24 pm, Ron Lyons <rlyo...@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> You forgot the part where Steve rips his shirt off, and points at Gary
> and goes "YOU!~"

No he didn't. That's part of the definition of "Hulking up"! :) LOL!

Jonny O

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Jun 18, 2010, 3:50:32 PM6/18/10
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thank you thank you.

The pay per view will introduce Python as the Ultimate Pinball Warrior
and Sam Harvey as the diabolical Pinball Clown. Richard Conger will
be special guest referee and Clay will do color commentary.

erickit

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Jun 18, 2010, 4:02:53 PM6/18/10
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As the investors pick the now demoralized and defeated Gary's bones
scene fades to a close up of a small figure on a backglass as the
camera dollys out you see the title of the game appear "Ritchie's
Revenge" and you notice it is a Capcom game.
Camera continues dolly and you see a shiny new Kingpin sitting next
to it.
(fade to black)
The End
Credits roll.

Eric

Stavs

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Jun 18, 2010, 4:09:57 PM6/18/10
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Wow...new level of geekery for RGP....fan fiction.

1st

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Jun 18, 2010, 4:12:53 PM6/18/10
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I just figured it was the Friday weed....

1st

kbliznick

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Jun 18, 2010, 4:45:34 PM6/18/10
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On 18 June, 09:44, miracleman <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ???

Official word at the moment is no he has not left

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/sternpinball?v=wall&story_fbid=404181634243

chuck

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Jun 18, 2010, 5:21:22 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 2:52 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
> "miracleman" <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote in message

are you closing shop?

Steven

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Jun 18, 2010, 5:23:42 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 8:08 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
> the positive opinion there chuck and
> steve ? no negativity from me, nothing hateful at all. Even though this is
> how I make a living and not a hobby for me

Ok, I took time to explain my post you're referring to. I send you an
email with apologies for the case you'd taken an offence by my post as
well. You didn't reply on both. Well..... now you do in a way, I
see. :p

Steven

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Jun 18, 2010, 5:33:15 PM6/18/10
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> On 18 June, 09:44, miracleman <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Official word at the moment is no he has not left
>
> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/sternpinball?v=wall&story_fbid=404...

Hope that's true!

Dmod

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Jun 18, 2010, 7:24:03 PM6/18/10
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It looks like what Stern actually said is that he continues to work on
Stern games. That isn't the same as saying he hasn't left Stern.

Randy

> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/sternpinball?v=wall&story_fbid=404...

azpinlawyer

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Jun 18, 2010, 7:26:20 PM6/18/10
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My thoughts exactly--has he departed for Raw Thrills? PErhaps a
merger in the works? Wild speculation on my part? Oh, yes.

Pinball Life

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Jun 18, 2010, 8:19:30 PM6/18/10
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This is the longest I have ever seen it take for news of this
magnatude to hit RGP.
It/we must be losing our edge :-).
Terry.

Brian Munn

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Jun 18, 2010, 8:53:27 PM6/18/10
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On Jun 18, 8:19 pm, Pinball Life

Your a local Chicago guy Terry. You have to know the scoop! Give it
up!

Brian
Detroit Pinball

Lloyd Olson

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Jun 18, 2010, 9:32:38 PM6/18/10
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At least you have an excuse. You were busy moving. LTG :)

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Daniel Tonks

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Jun 18, 2010, 10:12:24 PM6/18/10
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So Stern replies on Facebook that "Lyman still works on stern games and will
continue to do so. He's working with team on the new title now." Obviously
that doesn't actually say that he's actually still employed by Stern as
previously, but that he's merely working on Stern games... perhaps at a
lesser extent?

I know Lyman's work on SM and I assume BDK was done for the love of the
game, but I'm not sure how well this fares for his continued work on BDK and
other favorite titles of his (and BDK really does need a bit more work -
it's a bit lopsided now, like half is polished and half is just roughed in).

At any rate this kind of feels like the last Wizard has left the building. I
know his recent work on BDK has been responsible for more than a few new
machines sold over the past couple months (IT'S THE ONLY REASON I BOUGHT
MINE), and without him there on a daily basis I just don't know how the
software/rulesets are going to fare without him pushing (and imagine if "the
bare minimum" goes uncontested).

- Dan


Pinball Life

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Jun 18, 2010, 10:57:03 PM6/18/10
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I think the sound bite "saving pinball and saving Stern are two
different things" deserves more thought than it is currently getting.
Pinball (and maybe even Stern) will survive, regardless as to whether
or not pinball and/or Stern take the turns we, as collectors, want it
to. These are very interesting pinball times that we live in, and I
personally believe that 2010-11 will be looked back on as pivitol
years in the history of pinball. Stay tuned, and witness history,
IMHO.
Terry.


Lloyd Olson

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Jun 18, 2010, 11:01:43 PM6/18/10
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I'm rooting for early 2011. Long live pinball. LTG :)

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mnpinball

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Jun 18, 2010, 11:31:33 PM6/18/10
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I think pinball as we all know it will be different after 2010.
July 15th will be an announcement of the next Stern title, then
another new title Dec/Jan.
Don't know much after that.

Is Lyman working on his masterpiece RUSH pinball ?

kenny_ii

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Jun 18, 2010, 11:34:52 PM6/18/10
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I just went and looked and it said the post has been removed...

K2

AFM_TZ

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Jun 18, 2010, 11:47:46 PM6/18/10
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I see that. Not good....

mikepin

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Jun 19, 2010, 12:15:07 AM6/19/10
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I put money on he goes to WMS to work on slots!!

Lloyd Olson

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Jun 19, 2010, 12:17:33 AM6/19/10
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I put money on he already has. LTG :)

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Daniel Tonks

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"AFM_TZ" <jdur...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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No, you're just clicking on a link that has been truncated by good ol'
Google. Look earlier in the thread for the correct, unmangled link.

- Dan

bayoubilly1970

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Jun 19, 2010, 5:36:47 AM6/19/10
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On Jun 18, 12:44 pm, miracleman <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ???


If you play the record backwards, it says Paul is dead.

5voltsr...@gmail.com

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Jun 19, 2010, 7:33:21 AM6/19/10
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Maybe he just wants to work from home

Jonny O

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Jun 19, 2010, 3:25:25 PM6/19/10
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On Jun 18, 1:09 pm, Stavs <splatterh...@mac.com> wrote:
> Wow...new level of geekery for RGP....fan fiction.
>

Fiction?

Professional wrestling is real so SHUT YOUR STUPID FACE.

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