Account Options

  1. Sign in
The old Google Groups will be going away soon, but your browser is incompatible with the new version.
Google Groups Home
« Groups Home
SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
There are currently too many topics in this group that display first. To make this topic appear first, remove this option from another topic.
There was an error processing your request. Please try again.
flag
  Messages 1 - 25 of 67 - Collapse all  -  Translate all to Translated (View all originals)   Newer >
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
 
From:
To:
Cc:
Followup To:
Add Cc | Add Followup-to | Edit Subject
Subject:
Validation:
For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility icon. Listen and type the numbers you hear
 
SaBbRa CaDaBra  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 2:54 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:54:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 2:54 pm
Subject: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
great, instead of such a Dog?

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
metallik  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 2:59 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: metallik <metal...@fuse.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 2:54 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
> what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
> great, instead of such a Dog?

Meaningful rules.  The game is nothing but modes, and the difference
between doing really well in a mode and doing just enough to complete
it is negligible.  Scoring is very linear, with the only real
variation being the multiball, which is more luck than skill to get.
The ramps flow nicely, but the only other shots are to the left orbit
and the big stopper up the middle.  Left orbit only does C3PO, most
modes have you shooting the ramps or up the middle.  Absolutely no
stacking whatsoever, no variety, and no humor.  Also has way too much
jar-jar (which is not funny).

Game is just flat out boring after a few rounds :(


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Pinsgonewild  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 3:03 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Pinsgonewild <pinplay...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:03:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
Long drawn out video's before the start of each mode. If they had only
provided an option to turning them off:-(

Just for the record I still like the game.

Don


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Rare Hero  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 3:06 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 11:54 am, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
> what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
> great, instead of such a Dog?

RFM is better, that's what happened.  All the video projection on RFM
is animated targets that the ball interacts with.  Most of Ep1's video
is just footage to watch...or video representations of real pinball
stuff like a spinner.  What's the point of a video spinner?  You're
splatting martians and blowing up ships on RFM....it uses the
technology perfectly.  Also, even hardcore Star Wars fans don't like
Ep.1 enough to put up with the theme.

Greg


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
SaBbRa CaDaBra  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 3:12 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 3:06 pm, Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Most of Ep1's video

> is just footage to watch...or video representations of real pinball
> stuff like a spinner.  What's the point of a video spinner?

How does the game sense when to show the video of the spinner
spinning?  And, does the game detect different speeds of spinner for
different strengths of shot?

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Max Badazz  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 3:14 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Max Badazz <max_bad...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:14:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?

> How does the game sense when to show the video of the spinner
> spinning?  And, does the game detect different speeds of spinner for
> different strengths of shot?

There's an optical switch there (if I remember correctly).  And no, it
spins the same speed everytime with a woo-woo-woo-woo sound effect

Chris (in NH)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/maxbadazz


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
so  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 3:59 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: so <yrag.ne...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:59:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 11:54 am, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
> what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
> great, instead of such a Dog?

There is seldom anything to aim for. You might as well aimlessly bat
the ball around, because it won't make any difference.

so


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
seymour-shabow  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 4:22 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: seymour-shabow <seymour.sha...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:22:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 2:54 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> What happened to the game?

Popaduik

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Flippedout  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 4:24 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Flippedout <FBHA...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:24:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 1:54 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
> what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
> great, instead of such a Dog?

OT, but why is your handle a Black Sabbath song?

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Rare Hero  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 4:43 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:43:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 1:22 pm, seymour-shabow <seymour.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > What happened to the game?

> Popaduik

...but, quick - give him $10k or $16k  for a mystery game you know
nothing about!  :)

Greg


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Rompen  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 5:12 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Rompen <rompe...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 14:12:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 3:43 pm, Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On May 14, 1:22 pm, seymour-shabow <seymour.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > What happened to the game?

> > Popaduik

> ...but, quick - give him $10k or $16k  for a mystery game you know
> nothing about!  :)

And remember, you have to enter into a contractual arrangement where
you can't say anything about the game either.   Has anyone published
the actual NDA he wants people to sign?  Does it restrict them from
making any critical comments publicly?

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Septo  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 5:40 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Septo <cannedsonsh...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 14:40:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
2 words:
Jar Jar

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
cody chunn  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 6:05 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: cody chunn <cchu...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:05:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
That can't be right. He himself chastised people for buying games
without playing them first.

-cody

On May 14, 3:43 pm, Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com> wrote:


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
cody chunn  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 6:06 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: cody chunn <cchu...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 3:22 pm, seymour-shabow <seymour.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 14, 2:54 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

> > Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> > episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> > What happened to the game?

> Popaduik

ZING!! That's better than the drawn out goggledygook I was thinkin.
Larry pretty much nailed it.

-cody


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
SaBbRa CaDaBra  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 6:26 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 4:24 pm, Flippedout <FBHA...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On May 14, 1:54 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

> > Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> > episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> > What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
> > what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
> > great, instead of such a Dog?

> OT, but why is your handle a Black Sabbath song?

Cuz the song rocks and it sounds like a pinball game.

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
trilogybeer  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 7:56 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: trilogybeer <dougman...@elknet.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 16:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 5:26 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> On May 14, 4:24 pm, Flippedout <FBHA...@comcast.net> wrote:

> > On May 14, 1:54 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:

> > > Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> > > episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> > > What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
> > > what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
> > > great, instead of such a Dog?

> > OT, but why is your handle a Black Sabbath song?

> Cuz the song rocks and it sounds like a pinball game.

I like episode 1

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
cranie4 @ yahoo. com  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 8:00 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: cran...@yahoo.com <cran...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 20:00:35 -0400
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?

Rompen;1940071 Wrote:

> And remember, you have to enter into a contractual arrangement where
> you can't say anything about the game either.   Has anyone published
> the actual NDA he wants people to sign?  Does it restrict them from
> making any critical comments publicly?

I have yet to have to sign anything from John. However he IS very
secretive on what he will show people outside the studio during game
development which makes writing music for it a lot harder.

As far as WHY Ep1 is a stinker...Jpop seems to distance himself from it
as well. It was just far too much Lucas control and focus was heavy on
video clips you'd never seen before. It was more a promo for the flick
than a licensed game IMHO.

For the record RFM crushes EP1 :) Althought it suffers from limited
number of modes due to CPU concerns. After you attack and destroy
Mars...you start over..lather, rinse, repeat.

--
cran...@yahoo.com
This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
hey load  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 8:36 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: hey load <kimbo...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 1:54 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Star Wars Episode 1 had great theme (although some would say the later
> episodes were better), great technology, and had great potential.
> What happened to the game?  For someone who hasn't played much of it,
> what could have been better implemented within the game to make it
> great, instead of such a Dog?

I've been playing pinball for 49 years . . . I remember being six
years old and my dad giving me nickles to play the game that was in
the NCO club stag bar at Wheelus AFB.  I've played pinball all over
the world, and can honestly say there has never been a game I wouldn't
put a second quarter in to play . . . until this one.

It is boring.  Shoot the middle.  Watch the videos.  Shoot the
middle.  Watch the videos.  Shoot the left orbit/ramp, shoot the
middle.  Watch the videos.  And if you do it often enough, the light
saber comes on . . . then do it all over again.

A really wasted opportunity of a game.

kim


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
PT  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 9:00 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: PT <zeeca...@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 18:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 8:36 pm, hey load <kimbo...@comcast.net> wrote:

Pinball 2000 is the biggest problem with this game.

John


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
ranhorton  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 9:35 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: ranhorton <ranhor...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:35:51 -0400
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?

I really like my SWE1.
Plus, working on it is so easy that I can always keep it at 100% with
little effort and now have the confidence and skill to purchase older
games and bring them back to life.
It's a great "learner" for those of us just getting into the hobby.

--
ranhorton
This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
ranhorton  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 10:03 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: ranhorton <ranhor...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:03:23 -0400
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?

I really like my SWE1.
Plus, working on it is so easy that I can always keep it at 100% with
little effort and now have the confidence and skill to purchase older
games and bring them back to life.
It's a great "learner" for those of us just getting into the hobby.

--
ranhorton
This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
yetterben  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 10:20 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: yetterben <yetter...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:20:36 -0400
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?

What happened was Jpop blew his wad on WCS94 all down hill ever since.

--
yetterben
This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
ldnayman  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2012, 10:33 pm
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:33:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 14 2012 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
THe p2K games just aren't very good...even the "good one," RFM.

Episode One's downfall starts with the awful theme and just downhill
from there.

If you MUST own one of those games RFM is the way to go, but it's sort
of like a demented game of "Who would you rather..." between two
unattractive targets.


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
llabrevlis  
View profile  
 More options May 15 2012, 2:40 am
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: llabrevlis <llabrev...@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 23:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 15 2012 2:40 am
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
On May 14, 7:33 pm, ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote:

> THe p2K games just aren't very good...even the "good one," RFM.

> Episode One's downfall starts with the awful theme and just downhill
> from there.

> If you MUST own one of those games RFM is the way to go, but it's sort
> of like a demented game of "Who would you rather..." between two
> unattractive targets.

Never understand the hate that P2K or especially SWE1 gets on here,
for the first 2 releases on a breakthru platform, they were pretty
damned good!!  I will agree that RFM is the better of the 2, and both
could use some tweaking, but the concept was brilliant, and generally
well executed, the sky was the limit if it had been allowed to
evolve!!

Also, some very low shots at JPOP here, all he's done is design 3
games that are regularly in the top 10 of best game polls, think he
deserves a little more respect than what I see here!

Dale


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Borygard  
View profile  
 More options May 15 2012, 3:02 am
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: Borygard <boryg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 00:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 15 2012 3:02 am
Subject: Re: SWE1 - Why such a Dog?
+1

Very well said Dale.

--
Rob Anthony
Pinball Classics
http://LockWhenLit.com
Quality Board Work - In Home Service
314-766-4587

On May 15, 12:40 am, llabrevlis <llabrev...@shaw.ca> wrote:


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Messages 1 - 25 of 67   Newer >
« Back to Discussions « Newer topic     Older topic »