Re: Mnpinball - Hey - Where's this Official Stern Announcement you promised?
Beemus
> Coming Soon??? I don't think so. It's been 4 days now. Another
> frick'in Gary!!
I reached out to a Stern software designer today...
My guess is TDK update and buy gold!! ;-)
Pinboozie
Thanks Beemus. :) If in fact that's it, why someone would post that
as an "Official Stern Announcement" and than just let it go on is
beyond me. I guess that's what trolls do. Regards.
Rare Hero
> Thanks Beemus. :) If in fact that's it, why someone would post that
> as an "Official Stern Announcement" and than just let it go on is
> beyond me. I guess that's what trolls do. Regards.
We shall no longer refer to Jason as "Crazy J" ...he will be
"Cocktease J" until he finishes his announcement tease.
;)
Greg
Les Manley
I wouldn't go nearly as far as calling Jason a troll, reality would be
quite the opposite. I witnessed that first hand on Saturday night.
On the other hand, the Cocktease J is pretty damn funny. You should
say what it is though Jason, even just e-mail me and tell me, I won't
say anything. :) Especially if it is a TDK update, it needs one so
bad...
Lloyd Olson
news is second to none. And he's had some big announcements in the past. So
well worth the wait. LTG :)
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Rare Hero
> Especially if it is a TDK update, it needs one so bad...
It's coming, just be patient like the Spidey owners. Lyman has shown
his commitment to his games.
Greg
mnpinball
> Coming Soon??? I don't think so. It's been 4 days now. Another
> frick'in Gary!!
If you need to know so badly, please by all means email me directly or
call Stern 1-800-KICKERS.
The only troll I see is the one posting the hate ;) I just posted a
topic and wanted it to go from there and see what others have heard.
But again like always in any thread of news someone has to make fun or
take the hatefull side of things. Anyone that knows me knows that I
of all people care about pinball and it's future and it does indeed
look good !
mnpinball
specified date. I remember a certain Spidey code fiasco that went
not as planned. Alas things don't go as planned but by all means
Spidey was updated and then some, and then some, and then some. Fact.
Daniel Tonks
But you have to admit that running into a Pinball newsgroup and yelling "BIG
NEWS!" about the only remaining pinball company, and then fleeing, is akin
to running into a Star Trek convention and yelling "SHATNER!". And if
there's no Shatner - well, you'd better hope these were all TNG fans.
- Dan
Bryan Kelly
scoop or not.
All we know is, his beer is always cold. :-)
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
Home of the EXECUTIVE Pin Footie http://www.pinfooties.com
On Nov 23, 5:01 pm, Pinboozie <pinboo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Jason - Just busting your chops a little. I was just messing around.
> Trying to pry it out of you. I was taking the lead from your original
> post where someone said you were trolling and referred to you as
> Gary....that's all. But when you say "coming soon" and don't give any
> indication as to what it's referring to, most expect that to mean in a
> few hours, that night, tomorrow, etc, not just at some point in the
> future there will be news. If that's the case, we all have a crystal
> ball. :) Everyone here knows you have the inside scoop and
> appreciates all your updates, etc.
Del
> Most of us local guys couldn't give a sh*t if Jason has the inside
> scoop or not.
>
> All we know is, his beer is always cold. �:-)
>
All you have to do in MN to get beer cold is set it on the porch &
hope it doesn't freeze ;p
Pin-Del,
cargpb28
chuck
> Coming Soon??? I don't think so. It's been 4 days now. Another
> frick'in Gary!!
He just saved big money by switching to Geico...
Jeff S
information is not news, it is only being a tease. As no info was
revealed nor any hint provided of what it involves is really just a
heads up.
I have no problem with anyone coming on and saying there may be an
announcement coming up soon, just point out that this in itself is not
news.
From a philosophical point of view, if you know something that the
general public will eventually become aware, and keep it to yourself,
you are not providing a service to the pinball community. No secrets
are being shared and nobody is the better for it. If you spill the
beans, then you can argue that you broke the story. What benefit to
anyone is gained by stating you know something?
Imagine watching the news and at the beginning of each story they say
something happened to some company and we aren't going to say what or
give you any futher details. They'd have to call it something other
than news,,,maybe tease.
JeffS
ATL
phishrace
> Announcing there will be some news and not offering a shred of
> information is not news, it is only being a tease. As no info was
> revealed nor any hint provided of what it involves is really just a
> heads up.
>
> I have no problem with anyone coming on and saying there may be an
> announcement coming up soon, just point out that this in itself is not
> news.
>
> From a philosophical point of view, if you know something that the
> general public will eventually become aware, and keep it to yourself,
> you are not providing a service to the pinball community. No secrets
> are being shared and nobody is the better for it. If you spill the
> beans, then you can argue that you broke the story. What benefit to
> anyone is gained by stating you know something?
>
> Imagine watching the news and at the beginning of each story they say
> something happened to some company and we aren't going to say what or
> give you any futher details. They'd have to call it something other
> than news,,,maybe tease.
>
> JeffS
> ATL
http://www.dailywav.com/0101/nopants.wav
-phish
Lloyd Olson
hear something, get sworn to secrecy, and yet the Earth shattering news
can't be held in any longer. So hobbyists often want to share at least that
much. And Jason has friends at Stern. So maybe something really good is
about to happen ?
We have been seeing update action lately. Maybe even better things are on
the horizon. I'm patiently waitning. LTG :)
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Terrapin (No Tilt Bob) Mark
> And another thing, where did I "promise" it would be posted in any
> specified date.
How about this Jason,
When do you expect to be able to tell everyone what you know?
jeeezz already. Sorry but I agree with Miracleman from the original
thread that you posted.
Mark Salas
CARGPB 30
Taylor-VA
Okay, I'll go.
Ironman May 2010.
Harry Potter Nov 2010.
have fun.......... : )
mnpinball
Remember back in the 80's when Lee Iacocca was hired to bring an
almost dead company lossing millions back on it's feet into a new
direction ? Basically the same concept at Stern is what I hear is
being performed there. Outside interests are involved to make the
company bigger, better, and taking it in the direction it needs to go
to thrive and survive.
As to who it is that's at the helm I don't know. We are seeing code
updates on games and it's a great thing !
I believe a good company stays strong and assures your customers to
buy the product if that company listens to it's customer base and
makes a product people want. Code and finished product is a main
gripe. It's not a matter of the coders or developers not listening,
they know what people want. It's the deciding factor of Mr Stern that
makes the call. Plain and simple he is not making wise choices. Get
someone in there that can make the choices that need to be made to
make the company bigger and better.
I think it's a great idea that BBH is delayed and they are re-running
product to sell. Gives ample time to have BBH complete and out the
door as a 100% finished product. Smart move.
I wish Stern would use the internet as a tool for business as an
interactive with it's customers.
Example, free video advertising on gameplay and descriptions like WMS
did with promo videos. Also use a voting tool as to what themes/titles
people would like to see. It's gives the company an idea of what could
sell the most units. Easy and free things that could be linked to
the website.
These are my words and the take on things.
-J
Terrapin (No Tilt Bob) Mark
I have heard that Stern is re-running several titles whose licenses
will run out. Spiderman and TSPP.
I have heard that there are now some outside investors involved.
And these are just that. Rumors that I have heard.
Mark Salas
CARGPB 30
Rare Hero
> I think it's a great idea that BBH is delayed and they are re-running
> product to sell. Gives ample time to have BBH complete and out the
> door as a 100% finished product. Smart move.
...but the problem is they are making a BBH pin. Keep delaying it, I
say!!! ;)
Greg
Basil
> people would like to see.
Stern does already have this on its myspace.
Jeff S
Thanks for the update Jason. I was on Sears and Costco sites a few
days ago and ran across statement that warranty work would be
preformed by ???. Can't remember who it was, maybe Betson. But at
the time I began to wonder if this meant they might have a new
partnership or joint venture started with Stern. I retraced my steps
today on the web sites and can't find same info to verify who that
was.
JeffS
ATL
Mike MN
it.. I want it. Hijack.
Mike
mattyb
We should be careful what we wish for. Investors care about one
thing...profit. By some peoples estimations, Williams became bigger
and better when they canned the pinball division.
I doubt that these guys are sitting around brainstorming on how to
build the highest quality, kickass, blow your mind pinball machines.
More like: How can we mass produce a cheaper(crappier) version of our
current product to maximize the return on our investment? I hope they
prove me wrong. MattyB
Lloyd Olson
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I doubt that these guys are sitting around brainstorming on how to
build the highest quality, kickass, blow your mind pinball machines.
MattyB
mattyb
>
> news:d1b144f3-a11f-404c...@x31g2000yqx.googlegroups.com...
>
> I doubt that these guys are sitting around brainstorming on how to
> build the highest quality, kickass, blow your mind pinball machines.
>
> MattyB
That is excellent news!
The formula for a great pinball is quite simple: Make everything about
it extremely cool.
MattyB.
chuck
You're generally right about investors but think about this, what does
stern have? Inventory (nope) Expensive Machinery to liquidate (nope)
Some good people (a few) Huge possible money-making licenses (nope -
they sub-license) When you look at those things investors can only be
there to do one thing, make more money with pinball machines.
mattyb
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> - Show quoted text -
Yeah but investors are employees who do nothing but still expect a
paycheck. The cost a making a game just went up. How will they
compensate for that? This is my concern. MattyB
Bryan Kelly
etc? Their paycheck may be to simply keep pinball manufacturing
alive.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
Home of the EXECUTIVE Pin Footie http://www.pinfooties.com
On Nov 24, 9:18 pm, mattyb <mdbri...@sentara.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah but investors are employees who do nothing but still expect a
> paycheck. The cost a making a game just went up. How will they
> compensate for that? This is my concern. MattyB- Hide quoted text -
PinChamp
> Remember back in the 80's when Lee Iacocca was hired to bring an
> almost dead company lossing millions back on it's feet into a new
> direction ? Basically the same concept at Stern is what I hear is
> being performed there. >
This is a perfect analogy for Stern actually. Chrysler was a joke of
a company and then Lee came in and they continued to be a joke of a
company for many years to come. They build subpar products, and
nobody would really miss them if they were gone (or when they are gone
which will be probably be soon).
Sounds just like Stern. They too can bring in some two-bit self
proclaimed messiahs and have them keep hashing out crap games that
nobody cares about. Sooner or later they will fold, and the sooner
the better.
Pinball was a living form of art, a true representation of American
craftsmanship that could be looked at nostalgically, up until around
1999.
If Stern keeps sullying up the world with its abominations of
pixelated artwork, garbage craftmanship, and piss poor incomplete
software then you can kiss the proud and adoring memories of pinball
goodbye. Pinball will be just be thought of as another other cheap
ass joke product that looks like it was thrown together in China.
mattyb
> But what if the investors are a group of pinball hobiests/collectors,
> etc? Their paycheck may be to simply keep pinball manufacturing
> alive.
>
> Home of the EXECUTIVE Pin Footie http://www.pinfooties.com
>
> On Nov 24, 9:18 pm, mattyb <mdbri...@sentara.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yeah but investors are employees who do nothing but still expect a
> > paycheck. The cost a making a game just went up. How will they
> > compensate for that? This is my concern. MattyB- Hide quoted text -
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>
> - Show quoted text -
That sounds admirable but a little naive too. The CPR guys seem to be
doing okay with that business philosophy but what about the profit
crazed madman that is Gary Stern? How will his insatiable lust for mo'
money be squelched?
I really hope there are some pinball enthusiasts involved and I wish I
had the doe to be one of them! MattyB
mnpinball
You bring up a good point of CPR. You have people, alot of people
that love the classic Stern's. Artwork, playfields, backglasses, and
plastics being reproduced. Now did anyone see the Gary Stern
interview at expo this year ;) Gary himself even pondered the idea of
bringing back the classics. No shit, running the simple, cool
classics. The crowd cheered and applauded, me included. Both
companies could work in unison. Just speaking out loud. Could you
imagine buying a NIB Star Gazer or Nine Ball !!!!! Remanufactured
boards are available except the speech board but everything else is
possible.
Andrew Barney
>
> This is a perfect analogy for Stern actually. Chrysler was a joke of
> a company and then Lee came in and they continued to be a joke of a
> company for many years to come. They build subpar products, and
> nobody would really miss them if they were gone (or when they are gone
> which will be probably be soon).
Hmmm, I like my Chrysler product. It is built well and has worked
well. Going on 100K miles soon. Has held up nicely.
Andrew
Josh Lehan - Krellan
> You bring up a good point of CPR. You have people, alot of people
> that love the classic Stern's. Artwork, playfields, backglasses, and
> plastics being reproduced. Now did anyone see the Gary Stern
> interview at expo this year ;) Gary himself even pondered the idea of
> bringing back the classics. No shit, running the simple, cool
> classics. The crowd cheered and applauded, me included. Both
> companies could work in unison. Just speaking out loud. Could you
> imagine buying a NIB Star Gazer or Nine Ball !!!!! Remanufactured
> boards are available except the speech board but everything else is
> possible.
Wow, re-running some classic games would be great. I prefer the
layouts of classic "flat" games from the early 1980's. A modern, more
reliable, boardset could be used, with modern software that would keep
players interested with plenty to do (and be essentially impossible to
roll over).
My votes for:
Stargazer
Seawitch
Meteor
Nine Ball (who knows, maybe they'll get the software right on their
61st try, or just hire okaegi to do it right the first time)
Josh
metallik
>
> Stargazer
If you woulda went to Expo 09, you could have played Duncan's awesome
Stargazer with NOS playfield installed... :)
CornCob
Hold on one second, you're forgetting the pants press. Why Mr. Stern
himself says you can't make pinball without it. Thats gotta be ten
bob of anyone's pocket ;)
Ping
Expat
If you guys really care about Stern,you'd better hope not that they re-
release stuff lie Star Gazer
Instant death guaranteed
Max Badazz
> If Stern keeps sullying up the world with its abominations of
> pixelated artwork,
Who gives a sh!t about cabinet artwork. Who cares? If you have one
on location, no one will refuse to play it becasue the cab artwork is
pixelated. Looking for a distance, you can't even see it. If you buy
one for the home, it can go between two other machines if its so
bothersom. This topic has been going on for years, and is so
irrelevant (did I spell that right?)
> garbage craftmanship
broken switches are not Stern's fault. As far as the game itself,
they are built quite nicely. Blame ops for not taking care of them on
location, but my 8 Sterns at home do just fine.
> and piss poor incomplete software
I agree here.....totally lame, there's no excuse for this and they
know it. I am all for releasing with incomplete software (most
software companies do this), however you have to release patches in a
timely manner afterwards. Stern has failed to do this
Chris (in NH)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/maxbadazz
come and get it.....SST for $1k or trade
John
thinking up ways to produce kick tail pinball machines. Don't
forget the best way to hit the home market is many pinball tables or
experiences available in one 250lb shell, let's get back to a modern
approach on leveraging cheap memory and start licensing new software
on the hardware platform of a pinball machine. There's definitely
margin in software, not so much in outsourced/final assembly
manufacturing sold through distribution chains in fairly light
volume. We don't need full on virutal pinball, but re-theming a pin
needs to get easier somehow....
Anyway, since I have no connection to Stern, I'll post my desire to
participate at some level. I have an engineering degree and many
years of business leadership on my resume', a passion for pinball and
frustration with(more importantly a desire to help improve) the
lackluster performance of the current and only pin producer still
standing. It won't be easy, but then again, there's already ways to
make a pinball with generic PF Interface boards for coils, GI and
motors so that a pf could be swapped in minutes. As for the
software, piece of cake, USB stick access behind the coin doir for a
specific game boot. C'mon, I can't be the onlly one thinking about
stuff like this am I?
I could even so for those that demand side art and translites be
themed, they can be made available and easily interchangeable.
Believe me I appreciate these things too, but damn if I had a 'Stern'
Pinball Platform in my house that with a few minutes effort could
change to a completely new pinball experience, and I free up the space
required by the traditional platform (one game = one theme), and I
save $$$ becuase I don't have to pay 4k for a new game experience
(cause Stern doesn't have to pay for the raw materials, absorb or pass
on commodity costs and labor) we all win.
Shit, event the ops that only have a few pinballs win. Now you don't
have to lug the games back and forth, just the pf and interchangeable
artwork.....
Sorry, I can't doing anything without a lot of passion.
John
machine while you shop out or maintain the other pf.....(well I guess
pin 2k introduced this concept)
acarp...@madixinc.com
incomplete games. It is no secret when this started. Keith, Steve,
Dennis, and Lyman have proven game play and rule set can save any
theme or art package. Gary needs to build his credibilty before
singing a new tune and preaching being a "changed man" (i.e interested
in what collectors want).
finish incomplete games, all of them. This is a "principal" issue
that is tangable evidence there has been a philosophy change
Sub contract design to those with a proven track record. You do not
have to reinvent the wheel if it performs. In my mind Keith has not
made a dud yet.
Can not be on the fence regarding collectors. FGY, SM and BSM are
sucess stories. WOF, BDK, IJ4 and 24 are not.
His rumoured interest in changing is nice but it is hardly a
behavior. I will wait and see. For me classic games remain doesn't
really do it for me personally. Complete different playing
experience.
I want Stern to prosper but not if they keep status quo..
Alan
Lloyd Olson
you'd have to sell to make it possible isn't likely. And they wouldn't be
selling for 1980 prices, they'd be 2010 prices. LTG :(
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miracleman
run their non-licensed 80s games, and they just smiled and said they
had some plans for the future we'd have to wait to see. Guess I should
have read more into that than I did at the time!
Lloyd Olson
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CornCob
Well if FF can remake King of Diamonds and sell it; I'm sure Stern
could along side their normal pinball operations, re-run some of the
more popular older, Stern electronics' titles.
Only thing I see that would be important here is that they keep at the
current line rather then do a pin2k and completely bum over with
fingers crossed, hoping older titles and designs alone will sell.
Ping
Lloyd Olson
hope they do. Because that sets the stage for other great things. LTG :)
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Expat
> Too early to tell yet if FF can remake KOD, sell it, and do it profitably. I
> hope they do. Because that sets the stage for other great things. LTG :)
>
>
> news:023167da-106a-429d...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> Well if FF can remake King of Diamonds and sell it; I'm sure Stern
> could along side their normal pinball operations, re-run some of the
> more popular older, Stern electronics' titles.
>
> Only thing I see that would be important here is that they keep at the
> current line rather then do a pin2k and completely bum over with
> fingers crossed, hoping older titles and designs alone will sell.
>
> Ping
Yeah but something tells me that for all the love and effort put into
KOD,it just ain't gonna fly w/ the public.
I'd like to be proven wrong BUT I'm in the BK camp about pinballs
future prospects
It's dying day by day and nothing is gonna bring it back.
Good thing is that the rare bird future pin dorks being born in the
next few years will be able to pick up our A list titles fer next to
nothing,,ya know how we used to get em back in the mid 90's ;)
Just ask any woodrail collector, good times to buy cause most of the
guys are too old to move heavy objects around or dead
CornCob
lol ;) I'm not sure how to answer your post but sure I expect people
who can't move a game will have little interest in it, also doubt
anyone born today, not knowing pinball would buy'em either.
Ping
Expat
Well it's pretty simple..
Where do the future players get exposed to pinball now days ???
The arcades are mostly gone
I got my pinball bug implanted from being 10-11 years old and hangin
out in arcades in the early 80's
Granted I mostly forgot about pinball btwn the ages of 14 and 25 BUT
The seed had been planted so when I got a little older I wanted to own
these cool mechanical wonders.
They at least for me give e a nice nostalgia feeling when I fire 'em
up
I don't have much hope for the hobby when those bonds can't be forged
anymore.
Steve
> Wow, that's something I would like to be a part of....sitting around
> thinking up ways to produce kick tail pinball machines. Don't
> forget the best way to hit the home market is many pinball tables or
> experiences available in one 250lb shell, let's get back to a modern
> approach on leveraging cheap memory and start licensing new software
> on the hardware platform of a pinball machine. There's definitely
> margin in software, not so much in outsourced/final assembly
> manufacturing sold through distribution chains in fairly light
> volume. We don't need full on virutal pinball, but re-theming a pin
> needs to get easier somehow....
>
> participate at some level. I have an engineering degree and many
> years of business leadership on my resume', a passion for pinball and
> frustration with(more importantly a desire to help improve) the
> lackluster performance of the current and only pin producer still
> standing. It won't be easy, but then again, there's already ways to
> make a pinball with generic PF Interface boards for coils, GI and
> motors so that a pf could be swapped in minutes. As for the
> software, piece of cake, USB stick access behind the coin doir for a
> specific game boot. C'mon, I can't be the onlly one thinking about
> stuff like this am I?
>
> I could even so for those that demand side art and translites be
> themed, they can be made available and easily interchangeable.
> Believe me I appreciate these things too, but damn if I had a 'Stern'
> Pinball Platform in my house that with a few minutes effort could
> change to a completely new pinball experience, and I free up the space
> required by the traditional platform (one game = one theme), and I
> save $$$ becuase I don't have to pay 4k for a new game experience
> on commodity costs and labor) we all win.
>
> Shit, event the ops that only have a few pinballs win. Now you don't
> have to lug the games back and forth, just the pf and interchangeable
> artwork.....
>
> Sorry, I can't doing anything without a lot of passion.
John, you have a positive and passionate outlook for pinball and that
is commendable, but
I have to say that yours is an unrealistic dream.
The processes you suggest are not new, and I know you know this. The
cost
is/would be higher for the base unit, and "kits" (as they have been
known in the past) w/ plug in playfields have not been offered because
there is no money
to be made selling just playfield and/or art packages at a reduced
price. It was tried at Williams and other
pin companies.
The plan failed. There was hardly any interest after they were built
and offered. Even the guys (distribs) who begged for kit development
didn't want them after testing them.
Suddenly, sloppy graphics replacement jobs and the location asking for
the "old" game back caused big problems and some mighty ugly pinball
machines.
The Americana in pinball is a complete package designed from the start
to be ONE GAME. With virtual pinball anything can be done, but
sales of traditional pinball require a purpose-built package. The
universal pinball product is also very limiting. When anything can be
changed,
true innovation emerges. You might buy your ideal game, but I wonder
how many others would.
Your ideas work for virtual pinball, but not for physical ones. With
P2K, it ended up that the BOM was
$600 higher for all those plugs and universal connection capabilities
(plus the monitor and software/animation costs), and buyers were
already not wanting pinball at the cheaper price.
There is profit in selling a complete pinball game. Profits have
historically been necessary to sustain the pinbiz.
You seem like a guy full of energy and good sense. You could probably
make a good contribution to pinball, but there is a lot to learn about
pinball history and knowledge first.
There is also this basic problem: The present leadership of the last
pinball company needs replacement badly. When that is done, pinball
might have a glimmer of a hope to move forward. Only then could
anything "new" be tried.
Steve
Lloyd Olson
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.
LTG :)
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John
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I hear you. Damn, it would be nice
for the home market though....I could just lug 60 lbs worth of new
playfield downstairs versus the whole darn game everytime. Plus, I
would need at least 30 complete pf's before I ran out of room! Oh
well, I still hold out hope. BTW, what do you recommend for reading
up on the history of pins (and are you speaking about profit
limitations on the concept or mechanical limitations)?
John
mnpinball
> On Nov 23, 5:20 pm, mnpinball <mnpinb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 23, 3:26 pm, Pinboozie <pinboo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Coming Soon??? I don't think so. It's been 4 days now. Another
> > > frick'in Gary!!
>
> > If you need to know so badly, please by all means email me directly or
> > callStern1-800-KICKERS.
>
> > The only troll I see is the one posting the hate ;) I just posted a
> > topic and wanted it to go from there and see what others have heard.
> > But again like always in any thread ofnewssomeone has to make fun or
> > take the hatefull side of things. Anyone that knows me knows that I
> > of all people care about pinball and it's future and it does indeed
> > look good !
>
> Jason - Just busting your chops a little. I was just messing around.
> Trying to pry it out of you. I was taking the lead from your original
> post where someone said you were trolling and referred to you as
> Gary....that's all. But when you say "coming soon" and don't give any
> indication as to what it's referring to, most expect that to mean in a
> few hours, that night, tomorrow, etc, not just at some point in the
> future there will benews. If that's the case, we all have a crystal
> ball. :) Everyone here knows you have the inside scoop and
> appreciates all your updates, etc.
http://www.pinballnews.com/news/sternpartner.html
Officially announced now.
Brad
are.
Feeling hopeful for something fresh.
Brad
Bryan Kelly
Dude, that news has been floating around for weeks.
Give us something we can really sink our teeth into, Jason.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
On Dec 2, 10:32 am, mnpinball <mnpinb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> http://www.pinballnews.com/news/sternpartner.html
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> Officially announced now.- Hide quoted text -