My new BK machine has troubles
Steve
a few minor problems that I didn't know about, which I fixed, and it was
working GREAT... I've played about 60 games in the last 24 hours. Then...
I went to have lunch, during which I left the machine on, and when I came
back an hour later, the first thing I noticed is that the high-score was
just showing up as the commas. The numbers were missing. It was still
flashing the last score played properly, but in between, when it went to
high-score, just commas showed on all four displays.
I thought that was strange, but I just hit the start button, and started
playing. The next thing I noticed is that this game never ended. I played
through ball 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and finally I decided this was too strange, so I
turned it off and on again. Well, now it comes up with the flippers on even
not in a game, and the player one display just says "2500 3" on it, which I
assume is an error-code. It won't start a game, even with all 3 balls in
the drain, but the flippers still work...
I hit the test switch inside the coin door, and I can get numbers to
increment on the display, but since I don't yet have a manual, I don't
really even know what I'm looking for.
Does anyone know:
1: What may have happened
2: what does "2500 3" mean?
3: Where I can quickly buy or at least view online a manual, or at least a
list of error codes?
Thanks!
-Steve Jones
GlennBo
version for Bram Stoker's Dracula at www.ipdb.org
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someotherguy
if you're going to be away from it for a while. It doesn't take much for a
board crash/solenoid lockup to burn it to a crisp or at least cause significant
damage to the boards and playfield. Some may disagree but I've owned a few
examples that have looked like this (huge hole burned completely through the
driver board, underside of playfield charred black from a burnt coil, etc.)
What you think is an error code is likely the game coming up in audit mode, and
you are seeing the game # in the player 1 display. Probably when the board
crashed it corruped the CMOS data. Pretty common. Sounds like you need to do
the typical "go-through" of an older machine, i.e. resolder all header pins,
especially the 40-pin connector in between the MPU and the driver board.
Go here for lots of repair info!: www.marvin3m.com/fix.htm
Specifically: http://www.marvin3m.com/sys37/index.htm
Richard
Mike Messersmith
that you'll get a code like this and the game will not boot into
attract mode. Be sure you put the batteries in correctly too.
Good luck!
Mike
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Chris
conduction through a corroded battery holder, or a bad 5101 CMOS RAM chip.
Chris
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David Gersic
> Does anyone know:
> 1: What may have happened
Likely "Old Williams Disease". A common malady involving poor electrical
connections between major components. See also "Scanbe" socket exorcisms,
failed Molex connectors, and the dreaded 40-pin interboard connector
problems.
> 2: what does "2500 3" mean?
It's the game ID number and ROM revision. The game, on power up, detected
that the battery backed 5101 CMOS RAM contents were invalid. When this
happens, it starts in "diagnostics" mode and waits for you to take care of
the problem. Open the coin door, and flick the power switch off then back
on again. That *should* get it to boot to "game over" mode.
> 3: Where I can quickly buy or at least view online a manual, or at least a
> list of error codes?
You'll find manuals and schematics available from For Amusement Only, Marco
Specialties, Mayfair Amusements, and / or Pinball Resource. You'll find
these fine businesses listed in the FAQ, available from
http://www.mrpinball.com.
You'll find lots of System 7 repair, troubleshooting, diagnostics, and
advice on Clay's web site (http://www.marvin3m.com). More information,
advice and such on Ray's (http://www.actionpinball.com).
> a few minor problems that I didn't know about, which I fixed, and it was
> working GREAT... I've played about 60 games in the last 24 hours. Then...
> I went to have lunch, during which I left the machine on, and when I came
> back an hour later, the first thing I noticed is that the high-score was
> just showing up as the commas. The numbers were missing. It was still
> flashing the last score played properly, but in between, when it went to
> high-score, just commas showed on all four displays.
This could be a number of things, really. Most likely is the Scanbe
sockets, especially the one under the 5101 CMOS RAM chip.
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David Gersic
> "2500 3" is a symptom of memory corruption - failing backup batteries, poor
> conduction through a corroded battery holder, or a bad 5101 CMOS RAM chip.
Given his description, it sounds like the game "crashed". That will
wipe/corrupt what's stored in CMOS. Personally, I'm betting it still has
Scanbe sockets. If they're not replaced, this will become more of a problem
the longer he has the game.
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Todd Gilmore
replaced the batteries with a capacitor. When I turn my machine on, it
automatically comes up in audit mode. (Since there are no batteries.)
Inside the coin door are the buttons for the diagnostics. (I assume you
already knew that.) Click the middle toggle button down, press the advance
button a few times, toggle the middle button back up and press the advance
button until you go past the number 50 in the match display. I have to do
this twice. After the second time, the game is ready to play.
That should at least get you back to the point of trying to play the game
and see if it's working.
Good luck.
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Richard