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Dave Schulpius

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Dec 18, 2004, 4:08:38 PM12/18/04
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I can't say enough good things about Allen. This guy is crazy nice. He
goes out of his way to keep up happy and supply us with quality things
to give our games (and game rooms) anal perfection. Just look at all the
over the top quality decals and stickers he can do for our games. And
now he's gone and done it! He's found a way to reach the art lover in
me. He's making awesome canvas artwork of different sizes reproduced
from game flyers! Can you picture this stuff framed and hung in the
master bedroom (Well, maybe just the Scared Stiff and Party Monsters
ones and just for us unmarried guys)? Now I'm really going to go broke.

Yep that's right, I'm plugging this thing big time. It's cool! Have a
look if you haven't already:

http://www.treasure-cove.net/Pinball%20Posters.htm

Dave

Look at the artwork they're doing now!

KME owns UFO

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Dec 18, 2004, 4:24:01 PM12/18/04
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until Gene finds out anyways...

Fat Albert

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Dec 18, 2004, 4:16:53 PM12/18/04
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I agree, those posters look awesome. I would like to see some pics of the
canvas posters before i buy some though. I thik they would be a great
addition to any gameroom.
Eric

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Mike

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Dec 18, 2004, 4:37:26 PM12/18/04
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Can you say "Copyright Infringement"

If he did the work I would sing praise with you but anybody can resize a
flyer on a printer. There's nothing artistic about that.


--
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Dave Schulpius

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Dec 18, 2004, 4:52:32 PM12/18/04
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The twist is that they can be put on canvas. Just like a real peace of
art. It's a great idea for someone that understands that canvas artwork
is vary tasteful.

Dave

David Deturck

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Dec 18, 2004, 5:11:59 PM12/18/04
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This has been done before. I have already one of these for a while now, but
not purchased from Allen.

David


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MRWEELR

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Dec 18, 2004, 5:57:02 PM12/18/04
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The company is defunct, for Christ's sake! Not only that, but Gene
doesn't need any more money...now does he? Let it go people....geez

Bryan Kelly

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Dec 18, 2004, 6:37:38 PM12/18/04
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>
>Can you say "Copyright Infringement"
>
>If he did the work I would sing praise with you but anybody can resize a
>flyer on a printer. There's nothing artistic about that.
>
>
>--
>Mike S.
>http://www.muddeatr.com
>


I don't know how to do what Allen has done with these. I think it's a great
idea. I'd like to see what the canvas ones look like myself.

Keep up the very nice work Allen. :-)

Bryan (Goose Lurker, CARGPB14)

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PinballShark

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Dec 18, 2004, 7:06:59 PM12/18/04
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"It's a great idea for someone that understands that canvas artwork
is vary tasteful."

Yes, like Elvis painted on velvet or Dale Earnhardt  on a dinner plate.
You would normally
need to go to a swap meet to find artwork of such distinction.
I like the posters, but the canvas... nope.

-PinballShark

Bryan Kelly

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Dec 18, 2004, 7:42:11 PM12/18/04
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>
>"It's a great idea for someone that understands that canvas artwork
>is vary tasteful."
>
>Yes, like Elvis painted on velvet or Dale Earnhardt=A0=A0on a dinner plate.

>You would normally
>need to go to a swap meet to find artwork of such distinction.
>I like the posters, but the canvas... nope.
>
>-PinballShark
>


Well then I guess you need to broaden your horizons just a little bit
Pinballshark and get out more. It is amazing what they do with printing on
canvas. My wife and I bought a piece locally that depicts an evening scene
form downtown Minneapolis from the 40's or so. Here's an example of what this
particular guy does.

http://www.karljaeger.com/TWILIGHT_PAGE.htm

Depending on the amount of light shining on the pictrure, this thing , at
times, seems to jump out at you from the wall. Other times it looks like a
window and you are actually looking out at this scene. These things need to be
seen in person to fully appreciate them.

Now, I'm not saying Allen's canvas prints are going to "jump out at you" but it
would be interesting to see one. :-)

Lloyd Olson

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Dec 18, 2004, 7:55:27 PM12/18/04
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Way cool. This one http://www.karljaeger.com/NIGHT_LIGHTS_PAGE.htm if you look
at the big building on the left with the dome on top, this is the old Scottish
Rite building, at 6th and Hennepin. ( Minneapolis, MN ) Across 6th on this
side of the building is the night club that went through various things and
became my Father's Rifle Sport Arcade from 1970 to 1981. LTG :)

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Bryan Kelly

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Dec 18, 2004, 9:13:01 PM12/18/04
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>Way cool. This one http://www.karljaeger.com/NIGHT_LIGHTS_PAGE.htm if you
>look
>at the big building on the left with the dome on top, this is the old
>Scottish
>Rite building, at 6th and Hennepin. ( Minneapolis, MN ) Across 6th on this
>side of the building is the night club that went through various things and
>became my Father's Rifle Sport Arcade from 1970 to 1981. LTG :)
>


Glad I could take you for a little trip down memory lane Lloyd. :-)

Lloyd Olson

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Dec 18, 2004, 10:18:58 PM12/18/04
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It was nice. I always look at pictures like this. In hopes of turning up
pictures of the arcade at 812 Hennepin. It was in that spot for about 35
years, but I've only ever seen one picture of it. Never thought then of taking
pictures of it, the inside, or the state fair shooting gallery. LTG :)

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PinballShark

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Dec 18, 2004, 10:53:29 PM12/18/04
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It's not the technique or the look i'm talking about,
it's the subject matter combined with the technique
that i feel don't go well together.

Like: Elvis - looks good in photographs and album covers - not velvet
paintings,
i know what i'm talking about because i live close to Tiajuana.

or like: Dale Earnhardt - looks good on... well, actually he doesn't
look good
on anything - to me he looks like a dehydrated, skinny white guy from
the backwoods with a giant
mustache.

Anyway, lots of things look good on canvas - like your example of the
evening scene -
esthetic, fine arts, etc.. not just a blown up pinball flyer sent to
ops who usually don't
think of pinball machines as "art" but money making mechanisms.
-PinballShark

Kevin Steele

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Dec 18, 2004, 11:09:00 PM12/18/04
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Fat Albert thought about it a bit, then said...

> I agree, those posters look awesome. I would like to see some pics of the
> canvas posters before i buy some though. I thik they would be a great
> addition to any gameroom.
> Eric

I just got a canvas 16x20 Circus Voltaire in the mail from Treasure Cove
- very, very nice! Here's a couple of pics:

http://retroblast.com/photos/pinball/posters/circus1.jpg
http://retroblast.com/photos/pinball/posters/circus2.jpg

Now I just need to get it framed. Print quality is great.

> > http://www.treasure-cove.net/Pinball%20Posters.htm

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Dave Schulpius

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Dec 18, 2004, 11:28:39 PM12/18/04
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LOL, Elvis on velvet. :-) I see your point. However, I still like the
canvas effect.

Dave

PinballShark

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Dec 18, 2004, 11:34:29 PM12/18/04
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OK, i checked out the photos Kevin posted and i have
to admit they look pretty cool. Not my cup of tea, but
still not bad at all. It could just be that i love the CV
artwork though... hmmmm.

-PinballShark

Dave Schulpius

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Dec 19, 2004, 12:04:58 AM12/19/04
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I have to agree with most of what PinballShark is saying here. There
were a lot of really neat flyers from popular and less popular games
that had really nice artwork that would look good on canvas. I would
rather have a framed canvas poster reproduction from a flyer of one of
these games then one form a popular game just showing the table and a
bunch of descriptions. For example (I know these are popular but just as
an example) I like the posters Allen offers like: AFM, Bride of Pinbot,
Cactus Canyon, MM, CFTBL... Well you get my idea. I like to see the
artwork on my walls, not the table and description. Movie titles would
be nice to as long as they don't have big heads of Arnold or Sylvistor.
Of course I like to see Elvira on my wall also but that's another
fetish. LOTR would be a great one to do. I bet I could go through a pile
of old flyers and pick out many posters I would like to have reproduced
on canvas weather I liked the game or not.

Dave

Chris Woodruff

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Dec 19, 2004, 3:51:32 AM12/19/04
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Hmmm... I might be more interested in backglasses... :)

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Bryan Kelly

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Dec 19, 2004, 8:38:20 AM12/19/04
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>
>I just got a canvas 16x20 Circus Voltaire in the mail from Treasure Cove
>- very, very nice! Here's a couple of pics:
>
>http://retroblast.com/photos/pinball/posters/circus1.jpg
>http://retroblast.com/photos/pinball/posters/circus2.jpg
>
>Now I just need to get it framed. Print quality is great.
>
>> > http://www.treasure-cove.net/Pinball%20Posters.htm
>
>--
>Kevin Steele
>RetroBlast! Retrogaming News and Reviews
>www.retroblast.com

Just a little tip Kevin. My understanding is, with canvas prints, the "in"
thing is to not frame them. You simply build a wood frame a little smaller
then the print and wrap the print around the frame and staple it to the back
side. We had this done to a canvas print my wife and I bought and the look is
quite different but nice. Totally different look then framing. The simplicity
is what makes it look so cool.

I could take a pic of it if you'd like. :-)

Kevin Steele

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Dec 19, 2004, 9:32:30 AM12/19/04
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Bryan Kelly thought about it a bit, then said...

> >
> >I just got a canvas 16x20 Circus Voltaire in the mail from Treasure Cove
> >- very, very nice! Here's a couple of pics:
> >
> >http://retroblast.com/photos/pinball/posters/circus1.jpg
> >http://retroblast.com/photos/pinball/posters/circus2.jpg
> >
> >Now I just need to get it framed. Print quality is great.
> >
> >> > http://www.treasure-cove.net/Pinball%20Posters.htm
>
> Just a little tip Kevin. My understanding is, with canvas prints, the "in"
> thing is to not frame them. You simply build a wood frame a little smaller
> then the print and wrap the print around the frame and staple it to the back
> side. We had this done to a canvas print my wife and I bought and the look is
> quite different but nice. Totally different look then framing. The simplicity
> is what makes it look so cool.
>
> I could take a pic of it if you'd like. :-)
>
> Bryan (Goose Lurker, CARGPB14)
>
> http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins

Thanks for the tip - I was trying to figure out how best to have it
"mounted" for display. ;-)

Zenith

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Dec 19, 2004, 10:20:09 AM12/19/04
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>
> Can you say "Copyright Infringement"
>
> If he did the work I would sing praise with you but anybody can resize a
> flyer on a printer. There's nothing artistic about that.

Yeah, I have to agree, essentially he's making money off other people's
work.

And really, if someone wanted a large poster print of a pinball flyer, why
not just buy a flyer, scan it at high res, then head over to zazzle.com and
make your own print of it at whatever size you want - hell, you could even
have it printed at 52x78" by Zazzle, if that's what floats your boat, and
even on canvas... with archival UV resistant inks.

But, I really don't see the point, especially of canvas as a medium. And
once you get to large sizes, you're going to either start seeing the
original offset printing screen patterns, or it's going to be blurry, so why
bother.

Just my opinion, everyone's entitled to one I suppose :)

Zenith.


gpc...@yahoo.com

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Dec 19, 2004, 10:53:02 AM12/19/04
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the thing I like about Allen is that he is always trying something new.
I actually do agree that it would be cool if he did lesser known pins.
For the posters ....

gary

Kevin Steele

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Dec 19, 2004, 1:24:47 PM12/19/04
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Pokepin thought about it a bit, then said...
> Is the canvas print a canvas texture on paper, or real canvas cloth?

It's real canvas - feels about the same as artist's canvas (for
paintings).

Kevin

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Pokepin

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Dec 19, 2004, 1:21:53 PM12/19/04
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Is the canvas print a canvas texture on paper, or real canvas cloth?

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Pokepin

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Dec 19, 2004, 1:33:46 PM12/19/04
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Convenience and cost savings? - no need to buy the flyer ($5+), or scan (if
you have a decent scanner), or color-correct (if you know how), or upload
(if you have broadband and can upload a 15+ MB file) or pay Zazzle-prices
($22+ for a small UV-ink print).


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bogart

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Dec 19, 2004, 1:43:20 PM12/19/04
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My wife has painted on canvas this way for many years. I modified her
easel so it would hold the stretched canvas from inside the frame so she
could paint the wrap-around effect into her paintings. They're very easy
to hang this way, too.

bogart

TreasureCove

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Dec 19, 2004, 9:34:01 PM12/19/04
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A long as I have the flyer, ... I can make a poster, .. just email your
wants!!


Allem

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pinballjim

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Dec 19, 2004, 10:09:48 PM12/19/04
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Yech!

Zenith

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> Convenience and cost savings? - no need to buy the flyer ($5+), or scan
(if
> you have a decent scanner), or color-correct (if you know how), or upload
> (if you have broadband and can upload a 15+ MB file) or pay Zazzle-prices
> ($22+ for a small UV-ink print).

My point was, at least the person would own the material they're having
blown up to a larger size, which isn't as bad as someone duplicating and
then selling for profit someone else's copyright material.

Zenith.


Pokepin

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Dec 20, 2004, 4:25:26 AM12/20/04
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Under that scenario, TC could just include a copy of the flyer along with
the print and all would be OK. I'm guessing rather some sort of licensing
arrangement is in place.

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Zenith

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> Under that scenario, TC could just include a copy of the flyer along with
> the print and all would be OK. I'm guessing rather some sort of licensing
> arrangement is in place.

I doubt there's any licensing arrangement in place.

Zenith.


Matt S.

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Dec 20, 2004, 2:18:45 PM12/20/04
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Technically, Zazzle shouldn't be reprinting the flyers either.

I know the Kinkos in my area won't do enlargements of copyrighted
stuff. Your own picture, sure.

Steve C

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Dec 21, 2004, 8:21:12 PM12/21/04
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they are probably looking for the copyright symbol no matter how old
it is. just use Photoshop and blot it out. they wouldn't make a large
copy of an old flyer from the defunct Chicago Coin stuff I had but the
copyright (as far as I know is long since gone). I used Photoshop to
remove it and they had no problem with it.

steve c

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