Whats the latest with Pat Lawlor?
Eric Schmitt
Not in the expo schedule.
did I miss the boat on something?
I see on PLD web site that he is making his own CPU boards. Did he
branch off on his own or are those just for his redemption games?
--Eric
Lloyd Olson
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> did I miss the boat on something?
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> --Eric
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jta...@aol.com
> Not on deck for any new games.
He designed Stern's latest game "CSI" due out at the end of October.
Jerry
Daniel Tonks
I thought 24 was next?
- Dan
Eric Schmitt
> I thought 24 was next?
>
> - Dan
Who knows.....(I sure dont). Some once thought that CSI would be
released right before Dark Night and I think PL was working on CSI in
the later part of 2007 and somehow release got pushed forward.
Anything is possible now.
--Eric
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wrote:
Nope. CSI at the end of October and then 24 at the end of December to
coincide with both shows new seasons.
black...@skynet.be
SM till at least december and that production of any new games would
be for january.
Didn't Pat Lawlor quit the board with Stern cause he didn't agree on
Sterns' new filosofy? Can anybody confirm this actually? Did anyone
talke with Pat about this?
TheKorn
b82b-c31...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> Not on deck for any new games.
>
> Not in the expo schedule.
>
> did I miss the boat on something?
He quit.
--
Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
web or on DVD?
Taylor-VA
Is filosofy a greek thing?
twilightzonepinball
What is the new philosophy? That pinball is not just for drunks in
bars?
-Tom
Pinball Basics DVD
Ozricman
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> He quit.
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5voltsr...@gmail.com
> What?!?!?!?!?
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Although I am burned out on Law and order..csi and the others , I am
sure the pin will be a cool layout, although topping FGY will indeed
be a challenge. Whats' this Pat resigned????
Expat
In Lawlor's defense.
Look at what the man has created in pins...
He constantly was pushing for new innovations and "bigger and better"
as much as possible.
You might not like TZ but man that was one hell of an innovative
design.
I could see why he just got tired of working w/ Stern's low budget/non
innovation policy.
Pat is/was an artist,not a hack who could just be content to spit out
mediocre designs.
Like it or not Pat Lawlor designs drove most of the innovation and YES
success of the DMD era of pins.
Am I surprised that he fell out w/ Gary Stern...not at all
The two men couldn't be further apart in what they aim to achieve in
the pinball world.
Be thankful you got what designs from Pat that you did!
TheKorn
bd8577...@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>> He quit.
>>
> What?!?!?!?!?
He quit/resigned/parted company with/whatever other term you want to use.
Scylla
> Eric Schmitt <erics.pinb...@gmail.com> wrote in news:cfa335e8-1e0c-454f-
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> > Not on deck for any new games.
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> > Not in the expo schedule.
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> > did I miss the boat on something?
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> He quit.
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> Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
> web or on DVD?
>
> http://www.webwidevideo.com/
How is it that you know everything? What's going on at the State
Department lately, where's Jimmy Hoffa, who shot JR and will they ever
film The Hobbit??
mnpinball
CSI will not be released this year and maybe not at all.
When I emailed Pat about the website and shirts that he sold for Stern
he said no more shirts and I had to contact Stern directly.
Sounds like he has washed his hands of the company.
At least he went out with a bang on a successful Family Guy pin.
24 is next but not sure if a Dec. release or early 2009.
TheKorn
f690cc...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> How is it that you know everything? What's going on at the State
> Department lately, where's Jimmy Hoffa, who shot JR and will they ever
> film The Hobbit??
<24-speak>
I used a tunnel to socket in to the firewall via the stack. After that, I
used a VPN schematic to hack the hash table which got me access to the
matrix. Finally, after using a simple beyer algorithm combined with a red-
black tree, I could see and know everything! :)
</24-speak>
azpinlawyer
I don't entiirely disagree, but if you'd heard him spout off at Expo
'07, you might think differently about Pat's philosophy.
Joe Blasi
> Scylla <smba...@wowway.com> wrote in news:e7b1b6bf-78f7-4440-8d14-
> f690cc...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
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>> How is it that you know everything? What's going on at the State
>> Department lately, where's Jimmy Hoffa, who shot JR and will they ever
>> film The Hobbit??
>
> <24-speak>
> I used a tunnel to socket in to the firewall via the stack. After that, I
> used a VPN schematic to hack the hash table which got me access to the
> matrix. Finally, after using a simple beyer algorithm combined with a red-
> black tree, I could see and know everything! :)
> </24-speak>
>
twilightzonepinball
> Scylla <smbaue...@wowway.com> wrote in news:e7b1b6bf-78f7-4440-8d14-
> f690cc3a1...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
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> > How is it that you know everything? What's going on at the State
> > Department lately, where's Jimmy Hoffa, who shot JR and will they ever
> > film The Hobbit??
>
> <24-speak>
> I used a tunnel to socket in to the firewall via the stack. After that, I
> used a VPN schematic to hack the hash table which got me access to the
> matrix. Finally, after using a simple beyer algorithm combined with a red-
> black tree, I could see and know everything! :)
> </24-speak>
>
> --
> Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
> web or on DVD?
>
> http://www.webwidevideo.com/
Why doesn't PL just start his own pinball company? He has the ability
to make whitewoods, so just farm out the manufacturing.
-Tom
Pinball Basics DVD
ldnayman
>
> Why doesn't PL just start his own pinball company? He has the ability
> to make whitewoods, so just farm out the manufacturing.
>
> -Tom
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It's so simple!
beechwood
> > to make whitewoods, so just farm out the manufacturing.
Farm out to who...Stern?
Joel
HIOP
chuck
> Ozricman <Ozric1...@gmail.com> wrote in news:320e5d06-b67b-478b-817a-
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> >> He quit.
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> > What?!?!?!?!?
>
> He quit/resigned/parted company with/whatever other term you want to use.
>
> --
> Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
> web or on DVD?
>
> http://www.webwidevideo.com/
I was think about this the other day. I'm just glad I was able to buy
what might be his last, and arguably one of his best, pinball machines
FG.
twilightzonepinball
Don't other manufacturers farm out subassemblies and such? Why does it
have to be a pinball manufacturer?
-Tom
Pinball Basics DVD
JonC
> Ozricman <Ozric1...@gmail.com> wrote in news:320e5d06-b67b-478b-817a-
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> > What?!?!?!?!?
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> He quit/resigned/parted company with/whatever other term you want to use.
>
> --
> Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
> web or on DVD?
>
> http://www.webwidevideo.com/
What is he planning to do now? From what I can see his business has
only designed machines for Stern, pinball and one redemption.
Jon
miracleman
> In Lawlor's defense.
> Look at what the man has created in pins...
bah
He's just as good or bad as any other designer, with his share of
flops.
I own BR and will get a FG eventually, but still think TZ and AF are
vastly overrated.
I think most of his designs are overcluttered messes.
But to each his own!
ldnayman
>
> Don't other manufacturers farm out subassemblies and such? Why does it
> have to be a pinball manufacturer?
>
> -Tom
>
> Pinball Basics DVD
Only someone who thinks our moronic government could pull off a
"truthers" fantasy believes it's this easy to make pinball machines.
5voltsr...@gmail.com
> Scylla <smbaue...@wowway.com> wrote in news:e7b1b6bf-78f7-4440-8d14-
> f690cc3a1...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
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> > Department lately, where's Jimmy Hoffa, who shot JR and will they ever
> > film The Hobbit??
>
> <24-speak>
> I used a tunnel to socket in to the firewall via the stack. After that, I
> used a VPN schematic to hack the hash table which got me access to the
> matrix. Finally, after using a simple beyer algorithm combined with a red-
> black tree, I could see and know everything! :)
> </24-speak>
>
> --
> Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
> web or on DVD?
>
> http://www.webwidevideo.com/
Korn, that is deep!!
5voltsr...@gmail.com
> TheKorn wrote:
> > Scylla <smbaue...@wowway.com> wrote in news:e7b1b6bf-78f7-4440-8d14-
> > f690cc3a1...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
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> >> Department lately, where's Jimmy Hoffa, who shot JR and will they ever
> >> film The Hobbit??
>
> > <24-speak>
> > I used a tunnel to socket in to the firewall via the stack. After that, I
> > used a VPN schematic to hack the hash table which got me access to the
> > matrix. Finally, after using a simple beyer algorithm combined with a red-
> > black tree, I could see and know everything! :)
> > </24-speak>
>
> Jack Bauer wants names not tech talk.
He also wants royalties.
twilightzonepinball
> On Oct 1, 11:22 am,twilightzonepinball<tomwi...@aol.com> wrote:
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>
>
> > Don't other manufacturers farm out subassemblies and such? Why does it
> > have to be a pinball manufacturer?
>
> > -Tom
>
> > Pinball Basics DVD
>
> Only someone who thinks our moronic government could pull off a
> "truthers" fantasy believes it's this easy to make pinball machines.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................
-Tom
Pinball Basics DVD
heckheck
decent machine from him, and quite fun to play. His comments at Expo
seemed to run counter to what he actually delivered. He has argued
that the average game Stern is producing is too complex for the
average pinball player, and that the basic design was a dead end with
toys and modes and catering to the RGP type pinball nut. Then he
delivered FGuy, which had a GREAT toy (Stewie pinball), a bunch of
modes and enough complexity to keep the RGPers pretty engaged and very
satisfied. I didn't agree with his comments, but I couldn't argue
with the final product.
His innovation will be sorely missed, and his playfield layout skills
were matched by one or two that are at the helm designing games right
now.
h_h
Lloyd Olson
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Lloyd Olson
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Lloyd Olson
60 million in 2 years when the industry still had a chance. You know how
fast 60 million would go now, with no chance ?
Even Pat knows better than that. LTG :)
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You're right, Ford has excess capacity at their plant on Torrence Ave.
Coin-Op Cauldron (Clive)
> I would imagine he'd like to retire with money and not poverty. Capcom blew
> 60 million in 2 years when the industry still had a chance. You know how
> fast 60 million would go now, with no chance ?
>
> Even Pat knows better than that. LTG :)
In addition to what Lloyd just said, a Pinball start-up is a lawyers
dream and a designers nightmare: A real minefield of patents, marks and
other legalities to get bogged-down in. Who needs that? John Popaduik
tried (I don't know how far he got) and that came to nothing.
I'd give Pat a job, but I'm afraid he might bring Rudy along and Rudy
freaks me out big time! ;-)
Clive
Professional circuit board repairs...
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twilightzonepinball
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Can you imagine that? Union wages and a pin in every dealership. Cool.
I was thinking of having China make them.
-Tom
Pinball Basics DVD
ldnayman
> Can you imagine that? Union wages and a pin in every dealership. Cool.
>
> I was thinking of having China make them.
Is China gonna make a complete boardset? Are they going to know how to
assemble a pinball machine?
Do you really think it's that simple!? This isn't like emailing a PDF
to Kinkos!
Pat can't just design a playfield and have some people produce it for
him. But hey, why not give it a shot? Offer to "farm out" the from-
scratch production of a pinball machine for Pat Lawlor, maybe you guys
can cut a deal.
Ned Ledod
> Is filosofy a greek thing?
Isn't filosofy a Greek bread?
Lloyd Olson
trademark, copyright issues, they all get destroyed in customs. Not an easy
task making a pin from the ground up, here or overseas. LTG :)
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miracleman
ldnayman
> Maybe Pat will design new Pinball 2000 games for Gene?
Maybe pigs will fly and shit $100 bills on all of us.
Coin-Op Cauldron (Clive)
> On Oct 1, 2:33�pm, miracleman <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Maybe Pat will design new Pinball 2000 games for Gene?
>
>
> Maybe pigs will fly
Bacon's gone up.
dothedoo
No, feelawful is a Greek bread.
mnpinball
with NuCore.
A guy can only hope. :-)
One more day untill the big unveiling at Expo with an anouncement.
Future kits .....hmmmm......
gpsdrew
melamine...
:)
miracleman
mmn, sounds like another bet you won't follow through on!
JonC
The pigs have already flown (BBB). However, I heard nothing regarding
the $100 bills.
Jon
Matt S.
> <24-speak>
> I used a tunnel to socket in to the firewall via the stack. After that, I
> used a VPN schematic to hack the hash table which got me access to the
> matrix. Finally, after using a simple beyer algorithm combined with a red-
> black tree, I could see and know everything! :)
> </24-speak>
That can't be from 24 because it did not include the word "protocol."
5voltsr...@gmail.com
> On Oct 1, 10:39 am, twilightzonepinball <tomwi...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > Why doesn't PL just start his own pinball company? He has the ability
> > to make whitewoods, so just farm out the manufacturing.
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> It's so simple!
Isn't this what he was doing with Stern??
american...@hotmail.com
I'd rather send a deposit to Pat than that "company" down under.
american...@hotmail.com
> On Oct 1, 5:58 am, Taylor-VA <TaylorV...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Is filosofy a greek thing?
>
> Isn't filosofy a Greek bread?
Didn't Zaccaria make a pinball machine with that name?
american...@hotmail.com
Cadbury, Cadbury, Cadbury it's a Chocolate bar!
Taylor-VA
I'm in on the PL pre-order.
LMK where to send my cash.
Easily my favorite designer it will be unfortunate if he is done with
pinball design.
His batting average is pretty great if you aske me; ES, WW, FH, BR,
TAF, TZ, SC, NGG, FGY, etc.etc.
Like I said, tell me where to send the cash.
twilightzonepinball
Maybe what we need is a new direction. Simplify and make the games
more durable. Easier to assemble and less complicated. We already know
that complex does not equal fun. I don't remember EMs being that
difficult to assemble.
Maybe with your negativity, nothing will happen.
-Tom
Pinball Basics DVD
mnpinball
Only if Larry DeMar and/or Keith Johnson are at the helm.
jsgt...@aol.com
> How is it that you know everything? What's going on at the State
> Department lately, where's Jimmy Hoffa, who shot JR and will they ever
> film The Hobbit??
I thought this was all common knowledge, at least to us Quantum
Leapers:
What's going on at the State Department lately - they're wondering
if their paychecks are going to clear, just like everyone else
where's Jimmy Hoffa - 6 feet under in one of the end zones in the
Meadowlands
who shot JR- I THINK it was Sue Ellen, but it didn't matter since it
turned out to all be a stupid dream
will they ever film The Hobbit?? - NO
5voltsr...@gmail.com
> Korn reads RGP. And pays attention. LTG :)
>
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> How is it that you know everything?
So, If indeed Pat is done with pinball.....Do you think we can finally
have an answer to the *RED PANIC BUTTON* on most of his games???!!!???
aced...@gmail.com
Actually yes, scheduled for 2011.
Lloyd Olson
and sees what comes next. LTG :)
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