Today, there isn't only one pinball manufacturer.
Fernando
manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
but is a new hope for this hobby.
See pics:
http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/?albumview=slideshow#/grid
The manufacturer is:
www.marsaplay.com
Hello, from www.petacos.com (a spanish pinball community)
BlueMalibu
> Hello all, i have good news to the pinball community. There is a
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
WOW! Looks good.
How many did they make?
Parke
miracleman
First 'Bill Paxton' then this...
SUCK IT (again) WayNO!
pinballtom264
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
I like it, looks great!
BlueMalibu
This is from their web page (translated). Looks to incorporate some
things we have talked about.
* Coil Protection System without disclosing to other components.
* LED lighting by reducing consumption and increasing its length
to the existing pinball.
* Incorporation of magnetic sensors for the speed of the ball for
points and goals.
* Incorporation into the top of the pinball of a TFT monitor.
* Player image capture by camera.
* Ability to incorporate advertising in the monitor.
* Easy to repair the machine without skilled labor.
* Easy adjustment of playing Test and prices.
beaver
not expect that it was in production. I figured it was a one-off to
gauge interest.
Edward Cheung CARGPB26
On Apr 6, 7:24 am, Fernando <fernando.belt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all, i have good news to the pinball community. There is a
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
> See pics:http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/?albumview=sli...
ImpalaGuy
than we knew? The web site claims delivery in 1-2 months with no
prices listed.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/0156.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/0109.jpg
This could be huge for the hobby, guys. Perhaps pinball isn't dying
everywhere.
azpinlawyer
> Holy crap! How did this get by our radar? Is pinball bigger in Spain
> than we knew? The web site claims delivery in 1-2 months with no
> prices listed.
>
>
> This could be huge for the hobby, guys. Perhaps pinball isn't dying
> everywhere.
Count me in!
thehaze
Sounds like a fledgling operation. 1-2 month wait, building them
after ordered ?
Fernando
Information (in spanish)
http://marsaplay.com/layout/design-variations.html
If you want to download images (use this link ;))
http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/
The pinball designer is Antonio Cruz you can write in
mars...@gmail.com
They made 25 prototypes at the begining. Like i know the pinball is
not designed for collectors, and is planned for commercial purposes,
put it in diferent commercial places :). We are talking with marsaplay
in order to play it on next spanish pinball tournaments (i hope this
is possible)
http://www.pinballrankings.com/calendar.php
Campeonato de Pinballs Ciudad de Silla Valencia, Spain April 17,
2010 to April 18, 2010 and
Torneo de Pinballs de Madrid Madrid, Spain June 05, 2010 to June 06,
2010
ImpalaGuy
Marsaplay, SL is a Spanish company that has produced a revolutionary
technology pinball machine tolo preserving the genuine classic pinball
machine but with a very clear difference is the addition of a computer
to get a data and image processing other than the current and part of
it conseguir a pinball machine lasting damage. Another factor has been
taken into account is at the time of repair, you do not need technical
specialists as is currently happening in the pinball machines on the
market that uses an older technology and complicated, making it very
difficult repair.
In the new pinball has been central in-dash four printed circuit
boards incorporating lighting and marking targets for points and
eliminating the wiring and existing contacts in the other machines.
The news of the new pinball can be summarized in several points:
* Coil Protection System without disclosing to other components.
* LED lighting by reducing consumption and increasing its length
to the existing pinball.
* Incorporation of magnetic sensors for the speed of the ball for
points and goals.
* Incorporation into the top of the pinball of a TFT monitor.
* Player image capture by camera.
* Possibility of incorporating advertising on the monitor.
* Easy to repair the machine without skilled labor.
* Easy adjustment of playing Test and prices.
In this machine the new system is that both coils bumper, flipper,
bench banners, taka ball thrower, incorporate a self-protection
electronic system that prevent the coils do not burn and if that
happens you just have to replace it another without the fault cuts
across other components, making it quick and easy repair.
We have also incorporated into the pinball machine the LED lighting
system with which we reduce the power consumption of the machine and
especially the failure to produce the kind of light bulbs as we know
everyone's great success led by its duration and for its spectacular
lighting, and we can play with different colors.
On the other hand the incorporation of magnetic sensors of the latest
technology provides a reliable and amazing product life, making your
life more durable since there is no any kind of abrasion. It also
ensures that the board has no slot for contact by making it easy to
clean and the ball runs without any obstacles.
At the top of the pinball machine has been incorporated into a TFT
monitor replaces the traditional digits, thereby achieving that apart
from the monitor mark your counters when we make some plays, leaving
pictures on the monitor that makes the machine more attractive.
Another novelty is that if we can incorporate advertising with
excellent images.
The machine has a camera image capture that can capture the player for
classification as a champion, runner-up, etc.
Game Machine
It's a game ball very quickly so it is very important to get extra
balls to get to games. The combination of extra balls as well as how
the gameplay is very easy to understand what makes the player
participate much in the game system and end almost exhausted by his
speed of play and the full participation of the player.
On the other hand, the test system is very easy and intuitive as well
as the setting of prices for their wallet, it is easy for any currency
in the world.
Mr. 68
I ran the text through a translator:
Marsaplay, S.L. is a Spanish company that manufactured a revolutionary
technology pinball machine while preserving tolo genuine classic
pinball machine, but with a very clear difference is the addition of a
computer towards a different than the current and part of that data
and image processing to achieve a lasting pinball in troubleshooting
machine. Another factor taken into account is old, complicated
technology for repair, you don't need technical specialists as
currently on the market that uses pinball machines very difficult
repair. In the new pinball is you checked on the central board four
plates printed circuit featuring lighting and marking periods, and
targets by removing the wiring and contacts on other machines. The new
pinball news could be summed up in several important points: coil
protection system without that goes beyond other components. Reducing
consumption and increasing its duration from the current pinball LED
lighting. Incorporation of magnetic sensors for the marking of the
ball points and targets. Incorporation in the top of a LCD display
pinball. The player by camera image acquisition. Whether to include
advertising in the monitor. Easy repair the machine without the need
for skilled labour. Easy adjustment test game as well as prices.
This machine novelty is that both Qnn, flipper, bancada banners,
clearance of ball and taka, coil system incorporated an electronic
self-protection that prevent the coils do not burn and if this happens
only be replaced by another while the problem goes beyond other
components, making it simple and fast repair. The lighting system by
led with which we reduce the power consumption of the machine and
especially breakdowns that produce the type of conventional bulbs
since everyone know success led by its duration and its spectacular
lighting, since we can play with different colors we have also
incorporated in the pinball machine. On the other hand the
incorporation of the latest magnetic sensors is amazing, making its
longest duration since there is no wear by friction product life and
reliability. Also get the Board have slots for contact by which
facilitates cleaning and the ball travels without any obstacles. At
the top of the machine pinball has joined you a TFT monitor replacing
the traditional digits, getting it so that in addition to the monitor
to mark their counters when we do some plays, leaving images on the
monitor which makes the machine more attractive. Also new is that if
we can incorporate advertising with excellent images. The machine has
a capture camera image we can capture the player to their
classification as champion, runner-up, etc. The machine game is a game
very quickly ball so it is very important to get extra balls to get
items. The combination of ball extras as well as how game, system is
very easy to understand what makes the player to participate much in
game and finished almost exhausted for its speed of the game and the
full participation of the player. On the other hand the test system is
very easy and intuitive, as well as the adjustment of prices of his
electronic purse is very easy for any currency worldwide.
Kim - CARGPB #36
www.WrongCrowdProductions.com
DMD Glare Guards
Mr. 68
however concern me. Looks like the ball could do some damage to them.
This is kinda exciting and I'm interested.
My apologies to ImpalaGuy for the duplicate translation. You won. =)
machine.slave
into old here. A great accomplishment for sure.
machine.slave
on top of the wood? Very cool for sure.. probably a great way to save
money as well, as I'm sure it'd be cheaper to print on. It'd be
interesting to see how it wears
ldnayman
Whenever someone has floated the idea of a new manufacturer in the
past, we've been bombarded with doom and gloom about how setting up a
line would cost millions of dollars, it's impossible, etc.
Not to downplay the effort required, but it really doesn't seem that
tough. Herb is making King of Diamonds, and now these guys have popped
up. I count 3 pinball manufacturers now...just like the glory days!
Dan Q very much
cards! ;)
(Oh, Canasta is Spanish for Basket, okay)
Fernando
Yes it's based on one of most famous spanish pinballs in the 90th
Canasta 86
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=4097
Ken
You mention Bill Paxton, but forgot about this?
http://whizbangpinball.blogspot.com/
-Ken, CPL
www.Team-EM.com
PinAffliction
> The clear plastic drops are very cool. The stationary plastic post’s
> however concern me. Looks like the ball could do some damage to them.
Kinda looks like the clear "posts" are light pipes for GI from beneath
the playfield, they do seem to be vulnerable to ball impact.
Very encouraging to see this kind of entrepreneurial effort in the
hobby.
Scott
gangstarr
what is the price range gonna be?
LoveF2K
> i like it
> what is the price range gonna be?
Very cool, retro and modern at the sme time.
ImpalaGuy
over a DMD...
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/0031.jpg
chuck
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
Very nice. A new REAL pinball machine. I was worried that all we would
see are more crappy virtual pins.
ldnayman
Ridiculous!
It's impossible to upgrade a DMD to a LCD.
For somne reason.
ldnayman
They tried this back in the early 1980s on a video game, and it took
about 10 minutes for someone to include a photo of their balls on the
hi-score table.
PinAffliction
Yes, thought the same thing, ripe for abuse.
They could default the game to take a default picture of each player
during the game, say at the launch of their second ball, and then use
that picture only if they reach the high score table, discard if they
don't.
Scott
ImpalaGuy
lol... that's what we've been taught to expect, hasn't it? Until
now ;)
WestCoastSS
counting every hour down.
Lloyd Olson
"Fernando" <fernando...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c072176b-5d49-4a95...@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> Hello all, i have good news to the pinball community. There is a
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
> See pics:
> http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/?albumview=slideshow#/grid
Abby Normal
> Hello all, i have good news to the pinball community. There is a
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
That is very cool! Hope we can see some video soon!
TheKorn
news:c072176b-5d49-4a95...@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
> Hello all, i have good news to the pinball community. There is a
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
> See pics:
> http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/?albumview=slide
> show#/grid
>
> The manufacturer is:
> www.marsaplay.com
>
> Hello, from www.petacos.com (a spanish pinball community)
Huh, interesting! It looks like a street level game, but you have to start
somewhere!
I'm cautiously optimistic.
--
Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
web or on DVD?
Aeneas - www.flippers.be
> Hello all, i have good news to the pinball community. There is a
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
Thanks for posting, this is great news !
Aeneas.
-- http://www.flippers.be
mnpinball
mnpinball
Looks like Stern isn't the only company retreading designs ;)))) LOL
Lloyd Olson
"mnpinball" <mnpi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0c423655-602a-4f6a...@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
pincorrect
> On Apr 6, 8:08 am, miracleman <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow! A REAL 'pinball factory'!
> > First 'Bill Paxton' then this...
>
> > SUCK IT (again) WayNO!
>
> things we have talked about.
>
> * Coil Protection System without disclosing to other components.
> * LED lighting by reducing consumption and increasing its length
> to the existing pinball.
> * Incorporation of magnetic sensors for the speed of the ball for
> points and goals.
> * Incorporation into the top of the pinball of a TFT monitor.
> * Player image capture by camera.
> * Ability to incorporate advertising in the monitor.
> * Easy to repair the machine without skilled labor.
> * Easy adjustment of playing Test and prices.
I've posted in the past that many of those features were desperately
needed in pinball games. It's nice to see someone finally
innovating.
Now Stern needs to get in gear or sell their company to someone who
will innovate like these people: using LEDs, LCD screens, cameras, net
connectivity, etc.
J. Weaver Jr.
That would be "Journey". From the KLOV listing for it:
"Originally, this game was not to have the band Journey in it. It would
have a digital camera (created by Ralph Baer, the creator of the
Magnavox Odyssey home console systems) that would take a picture of the
player's face and put it on the character. After some people used
unmentionable parts of their body as character heads during tests, this
was dropped."
:D -JW (BTW, the pin looks _great_!)
Ron Lyons
games, so they must have figured out a better way to design it or
decide when to take the picture, or something. Maybe they have a a.i.
than can figure out if it doesn't look like a face, lol.
Fernando
One more picture with all playfield
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/newcanasta2.jpg
I hope to have fresh news as soon as possible.
Best regards
Daniel Tonks
> Hello all, i have good news to the pinball community. There is a
> manufacturer that made a new release of a Spanish pinball Canasta 86
> in 1986 (INDER). See exclusive pics of this pinball. Is a basic model
> but is a new hope for this hobby.
>
> See pics:
>
> The manufacturer is:
> www.marsaplay.com
>
> Hello, from www.petacos.com (a spanish pinball community)
Wow, this is really something. Sure, it's a pretty basic playfield layout...
but think of how much work it took to get there. And with entirely new
advanced technology and genuinely fresh ideas. Bumping up the playfield
complexity is comparatively easy now that they have this.
- Dan
Steven
wiring: let's see how well that turns out to work. No rollover
switches: easier to clean, less wear, and maybe very durable and
easier to produce the playfield? Leds are good for maintainance and
power/currentreduce purposes. LCD instead of DMD could be fun, and
though I like the 'good old DMD' very much and I personally am not
waiting for improvement there, it can't be bad if something new gets
tested: maybe I'll change my mind if I see the possibilities a LCD
brings.
I hope this pinball will be a succes enough so that a second,
completely new model will eventually get produced. This one looks fun
but simple. With the same technique that's used here, I'm sure a game
with a ramp, deep(er?) rules and multiball shouldn't be too hard to
create (with virtual locks and autoshooter, if for maintanance
purposes 'holes' and 'scoops' are abandoned). I'm sure there's enough
enthousiastic people around willing to help to create a completely new
design.
But all in good time off course. Let's first see how well this one
does. Hope more info will be posted here in the near future.
Steven
> but think of how much work it took to get there. And with entirely new
> advanced technology and genuinely fresh ideas. Bumping up the playfield
> complexity is comparatively easy now that they have this.
>
> - Dan
My thoughts excactly! (You just beat me 4 minutes with your post).
Steven
Daniel Tonks
news:86699756-ee97-431b...@30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
If the system they developed is robust enough, all they really need are a
couple of those experienced designers and engineers that were once employed
in the industry.
I'm curious whether they plan on taking this somewhere - ie. international -
or if they're just going to keep it as a "boutique" business. I wonder how
much has been invested up to this point...
- Dan
Daniel Tonks
The one thing I've noticed in the photographs is how the clear plastic
layer, of course, results in the absence of jeweled light inserts... and I
find I'm missing them. I also see in the dark shots that the lights under
the printed "inserts" tends to have blurry and diffused outlines that don't
really match the insert "shape" - no doubt caused by the thick plastic layer
dispersing light. I wonder how this can be improved.
- Dan
Wade
Now you know you'll be offended when the game says "Shame on you!"
after it takes your picture... ;)
Wade
Wade
> "Steven" <steven.vander.sta...@gmail.com> wrote in message
The light dispersion could probably be fixed with an extra printed
layer of translucent paint on the bottom blocking the light from the
areas that are not inserts. Also, I suspect the inserts could be
jeweled by routing a pattern on the bottom of the field... but with
all the other innovations of this machine, I suspect a few of these
minor differences would be unnoticed by the average player.
Wade
barnhart_pinball
b99568...@k15g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
> Check out the color display. Think of the cool possibilities of this
> over a DMD...
>
> http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/Magod/Marsaplay/0031.jpg
did we not discuss this a month ago...going LCD over DMD?
--
"That deaf dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball"
Mike
> Hello again, i'm happy to see a lot of post :P
>
>
> I hope to have fresh news as soon as possible.
>
> Best regards
I don't think those red plastic lane dividers have a chance of
surviving direct ball hits (those right above the flippers, where
you'd normally see slingshots).
Mike
Stevebo
pics with the playfield glass in to see if Kim might be picking up
some more business?
stevebo
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:19:51 -0700 (PDT), "Mr. 68" <Mr...@q.com> wrote:
>The clear plastic drops are very cool. The stationary plastic post�s
>however concern me. Looks like the ball could do some damage to them.
>This is kinda exciting and I'm interested.
>
>My apologies to ImpalaGuy for the duplicate translation. You won. =)
>
>Kim - CARGPB #36
>www.WrongCrowdProductions.com
>DMD Glare Guards
scooter
> On Apr 6, 7:25 am, BlueMalibu <mich...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 8:08 am, miracleman <psychospe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > First 'Bill Paxton' then this...
>
> > > SUCK IT (again) WayNO!
>
> > This is from their web page (translated). Looks to incorporate some
> > things we have talked about.
>
> > * Coil Protection System without disclosing to other components.
> > * LED lighting by reducing consumption and increasing its length
> > to the existingpinball.
> > * Incorporation of magnetic sensors for the speed of the ball for
> > points and goals.
> > * Player image capture by camera.
> > * Ability to incorporate advertising in the monitor.
> > * Easy to repair the machine without skilled labor.
> > * Easy adjustment of playing Test and prices.
>
> I've posted in the past that many of those features were desperately
> innovating.
>
> Now Stern needs to get in gear or sell their company to someone who
> will innovate like these people: using LEDs, LCD screens, cameras, net
> connectivity, etc.
Stern does need to look at this and learn!!