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nh...@yahoo.com
Dec 3, 2012, 6:22:25 PM12/3/12
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It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
elsewhere? Or just too busy?
months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
elsewhere? Or just too busy?
barakandl
Dec 3, 2012, 6:23:08 PM12/3/12
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Pin-Junk
Dec 3, 2012, 6:29:09 PM12/3/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 6:22:25 PM UTC-5, nh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Pinside has about 20 times as much action and seems a lot less negative overall.
Gatecrasher
Dec 3, 2012, 6:43:26 PM12/3/12
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I like RGP Archive better than Pinside. ;)
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CEG
Dec 3, 2012, 6:48:34 PM12/3/12
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I still use the Old Google Groups. I'm not crazy about the new format.
Chas
Tuna Delight
Dec 3, 2012, 7:34:02 PM12/3/12
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I agree that the rate of new postings seems to have slowed down a lot
on RGP and my guess is that a lot of RGPers have migrated to Pinside
as well as new hobbyists are being attracted more by the latter.
One Pinside observation (and disappointment) FWIW: While the posting
action does seem to be a lot more robust at Pinside, it also seems
that the percentage of EM game fans there is even less than the small
minority at RGP. This of course makes sense given the apparently high
numbr of hobby newbies posting at Pinside.
- Tim
on RGP and my guess is that a lot of RGPers have migrated to Pinside
as well as new hobbyists are being attracted more by the latter.
One Pinside observation (and disappointment) FWIW: While the posting
action does seem to be a lot more robust at Pinside, it also seems
that the percentage of EM game fans there is even less than the small
minority at RGP. This of course makes sense given the apparently high
numbr of hobby newbies posting at Pinside.
- Tim
vid1900
Dec 3, 2012, 7:38:10 PM12/3/12
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I read Pinside, KLOV and RGP, but the "action" is on Pinside.
Sometimes new games or reproductions are announced 3 or more days
earlier on Pinside than RGP.
But, you still have to read them all to keep current...
--
vid1900
Pinster68
Dec 3, 2012, 7:57:15 PM12/3/12
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Spent a lot of time on Pinside ... but have been returning to RGP more
because I like the content more from the old timers.
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Pinster68
Pinball Muggle
Dec 3, 2012, 8:21:51 PM12/3/12
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My best guess is most are doing both pinside & rgp. pinside has a
dickhead filter and since most folks don’t like dickheads they
naturally end up with more friendly people and friendly people like to
blab a lot - so there you go.
But I CAN say with 100% certainty ... it’s either that or
something else.
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Pinball Muggle
Steve Smith
Richmond VA
hoov
Dec 3, 2012, 8:52:23 PM12/3/12
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Would appear to be due to Pinside.
Me personally, I'm not impressed with the site, but then again, I ain't
young :D) Lot's of knowledge here. I'm stayin'.....
Dave
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hoov
chas010
Dec 3, 2012, 9:18:57 PM12/3/12
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Its probably due to pinball sucking more now than it used to when it was
reasonably affordable.
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chas010
SpecialWhenLit
Dec 3, 2012, 9:23:03 PM12/3/12
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Tell your MOD (Mother On Duty) It smells like Pee-Inside.
John I
Dec 3, 2012, 9:25:04 PM12/3/12
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Yeah it is a perfect storm that drove people to pinside. Tons of new
people in the hobby who want a web based forum with pictures and
animated smiley faces like they are used to in other hobbies, all the
problems google had in the last couple of years, the terrible new google
interface and loud-mouthed rectums like FF who drive people away from
RGP to a moderated forum.
John
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cal50
Dec 3, 2012, 10:23:56 PM12/3/12
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Yes.
american...@hotmail.com
Dec 3, 2012, 10:28:09 PM12/3/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 6:22:25 PM UTC-5, nh...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting elsewhere? Or just too busy?
I read and post a majority on Pinside these days. I've cut way back on RGP. I like Google Groups versus other readers & RGP Archive but I admit, if I used RGP Archive they have the A holes filtered out. But, I like the way GG hides read posts automatically.
Pinside's favorites area, place to post your own story, game section is pretty neat. Only downfall is there is one moderator that is 1000% JJP fanboy and whenever someone takes a swipe at Stern, he is silent. The minute anyone takes a swipe at JJP, he is all over you asking for proof and if you call him a yesm an or fanboy, he immediately cites the pinside rules stating that "personal attacks" are prohibited. Calling anyone a fanboy or yes man is CONsidered by him to be a personal attack.
That's my only gripe but as things progress I'll have some fun rubbing his face in it.
EM PINMAN
Dec 3, 2012, 10:57:52 PM12/3/12
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RGP is where I started with lots of great folks (except Dillweed FF). RGP archive has great reference material. Nothing like the drama department for excitement on RGP.
They are all entertaining in their own way. The more the merrier.
It's all about pinball so it's all good.
Ken
punked
Dec 4, 2012, 2:31:40 AM12/4/12
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Todd Nathan....
seanspin...@gmail.com
Dec 4, 2012, 7:51:00 AM12/4/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 6:22:25 PM UTC-5, nh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sean
sidneygreen
Dec 4, 2012, 7:54:30 AM12/4/12
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yep, come here and you deal with all kinds of crap that you don't get
at pinside. no one calling you horrible names for selling a game at
current market value, no one posting meaningless post after post to
every message. i knew this place was getting bad when i would open it
and see the same name 20 times in a row from a particular member that
just doesn't get that no one cares about his posts and what he has to
say. it was time to go. only reason i come back is to keep up on
sales and monitor prices so i am in the know.
at pinside. no one calling you horrible names for selling a game at
current market value, no one posting meaningless post after post to
every message. i knew this place was getting bad when i would open it
and see the same name 20 times in a row from a particular member that
just doesn't get that no one cares about his posts and what he has to
say. it was time to go. only reason i come back is to keep up on
sales and monitor prices so i am in the know.
Dan Q very much
Dec 4, 2012, 8:27:59 AM12/4/12
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Pacpin
Dec 4, 2012, 8:34:05 AM12/4/12
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busier. Shopping, family things, some people take on extra seasonal
work. Pinball takes a backseat for a lot of people during the holiday
season. It happens every year. Nothing to get alarmed about.
--
Pacpin
Dan Q very much
Dec 4, 2012, 9:50:20 AM12/4/12
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I said:
>
> So turn new GG off! You can still use the old, ya know.
This must have left some people wondering, for which I apologize. I've
>
> So turn new GG off! You can still use the old, ya know.
explained before, but:
Click the gear symbol for Settings. Counterintuitively, you have to
choose "Set New GG as Default", which is the exact thing you're trying
not to do!. Then the next time you click the gear, that menu choice is
replaced with "Revert to the Old GG."
They switch you back to new every so often, but so far it lets you
revert.
CEG
Dec 4, 2012, 10:14:01 AM12/4/12
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turbo20lbs
Dec 4, 2012, 10:44:05 AM12/4/12
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Pacpin;2027421 Wrote:
> It always slows down this time of year around the holidays. People are
> busier. Shopping, family things, some people take on extra seasonal
> work. Pinball takes a backseat for a lot of people during the holiday
> season. It happens every year. Nothing to get alarmed about.
been like this for months and months. You cannot read RGP for a week
and then sign on and catch up in about 3 minutes.
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turbo20lbs
Dave
http://www.youtube.com/user/turbo20lbs
Bryan Kelly
Dec 4, 2012, 11:25:45 AM12/4/12
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Posting on RGP over the last 5 months has been cut in half from the
same time last year. Has nothing to do with the season. I'd
definately say it has more to do with Pinside. Like it or not, it is
what it is.
I like Pinside but as someone once said, Pinside is like the Facebook
of pinball. Seems like there are many who feel the need to make a
comment (like "atta boy) on tons of threads. Nothing wrong with this
but it does make it harder to wade through all those posts to get the
real info from a thread. Same with the threads. There are just too
many of them for me to check into and see whats being said.
For me, at least, I still read RGP but because I also read Pinside, I
find I have less time to post....on either group.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
same time last year. Has nothing to do with the season. I'd
definately say it has more to do with Pinside. Like it or not, it is
what it is.
I like Pinside but as someone once said, Pinside is like the Facebook
of pinball. Seems like there are many who feel the need to make a
comment (like "atta boy) on tons of threads. Nothing wrong with this
but it does make it harder to wade through all those posts to get the
real info from a thread. Same with the threads. There are just too
many of them for me to check into and see whats being said.
For me, at least, I still read RGP but because I also read Pinside, I
find I have less time to post....on either group.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
Bowling Jim
Dec 4, 2012, 12:02:51 PM12/4/12
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Look at the thread about the Avengers almost 800 post on that game
alone. I still use both but there is a lot more activity on Pinside
for sure.
alone. I still use both but there is a lot more activity on Pinside
for sure.
mr tobias
Dec 4, 2012, 12:11:11 PM12/4/12
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On Dec 3, 11:22 pm, "nh...@yahoo.com" <nh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
Two factors account for this: migration to Pinside and the new GG
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
sucking big time.
Pinside is ok but personally I find that if anything there is too much
fluff to wade through on there, so I tend to only go there
occasionally.
Sean Kavanagh
Dec 4, 2012, 12:13:00 PM12/4/12
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> For me, at least, I still read RGP but because I also read Pinside, I
> find I have less time to post....on either group.
Love this statement Bryan...
> find I have less time to post....on either group.
When Marty's Yahoo EM group took alot of the EMers away, many said
things like "I just go to both places now"...to which I was like how
much time do you people have on your hands anyways? ;o)
At this point in my pin "career", I really don't need the group as
much, but I miss it when it's gone...
Sean
mr tobias
Dec 4, 2012, 12:13:16 PM12/4/12
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Avengers, which hasn't even been released.
Sean Kavanagh
Dec 4, 2012, 12:17:29 PM12/4/12
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the tree view it wouldn't be all that bad, but without it it's too
much like a bunch of people yelling. Sure, some people were never
that good at replying to the correct post, but those people could be
overlooked when most of the rest were OK...
I see what they're trying to do on GGNEW, but for those of us that
don't want to turn our computer's into the center of our social lives,
not so much...
Sean
Pacpin
Dec 4, 2012, 12:16:02 PM12/4/12
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turbo20lbs;2027457 Wrote:
> Lol um no. RGP is dead. Has nothing to do with the Holidays as it has
> been like this for months and months. You cannot read RGP for a week
> and then sign on and catch up in about 3 minutes.
of new posts every morning when i check, and it's been that way since
i've started on here, years ago.
Seems like you already have an answer in mind as to why you feel there
is a slowdown on RGP, so i don't see why you are posting asking for
opinions as to why. I know people post less around holidays. You look
at the amount of people posting Thanksgiving Day or Christmas...way less
people than normal. Whether you feel that is the ultimate reason you
are fishing for or not, the holidays do play a part.
But, as an additional question, IF more people are over at pinside, the
ones that simply say "atta boy" or dealers posting their for sale ads at
overinflated prices, is it really a bad thing? We still have our core
group of people here, they haven't left, RGP is a much better place for
tech help , which is what i personally am looking for. Basically all
the fluff has been cut out and moved to pinside, which i find is an
advantage for RGP, much less nonsense to wade through.
Pinside can keep all the posts like "look at my modded Xmen machine, I
put toys all over it" or "Please tell me what pinball machine i will
like the best" or "Taxi pinball machine for sale, 4000.00".
Sometimes cutting the fat is a good thing.
--
Pacpin
KenH
Dec 4, 2012, 12:44:38 PM12/4/12
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>
> tech help , which is what i personally am looking for. Basically all
Besides we have Lloyd, theKorn, Seymour, and Joe, John, John, Chris, Pacpin, Frank. We got Bryan and pinguy, someotherpinguy, Cody, Idnayman, Cliffy, Ed, and we got metalik, frenchy, William, Aeneas, and wayout, Pete, Jim, James, homebrood, barakandl,Hans, and all the people I like to read...sorry if I didn't mention you.
ldnayman
Dec 4, 2012, 1:24:52 PM12/4/12
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Basically it's like this-
RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
we have established-
1. Novus is better than Milwax
2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
4. Republicans can't spell
At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
every single issue, and settled every debate.
But it will live on in google archives, forever.
Last one out shut the lights!
RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
we have established-
1. Novus is better than Milwax
2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
4. Republicans can't spell
At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
every single issue, and settled every debate.
But it will live on in google archives, forever.
Last one out shut the lights!
alveolus
Dec 4, 2012, 1:31:20 PM12/4/12
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historical averages.
Kerry Imming
Dec 4, 2012, 1:48:30 PM12/4/12
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"ldnayman" <ldna...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:6af86971-23d5-4799...@n9g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
:-)
- Kerry
Pacpin
Dec 4, 2012, 1:58:45 PM12/4/12
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alveolus;2027520 Wrote:
> On Dec 4, 11:44*am, KenH <klhuber2... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> > > tech help , which is what i personally am looking for. *Basically
> all
> >
> > The tech posts are my favorite to read, and they're not that great on
> pinside.
> >
> > Besides we have Lloyd, theKorn, Seymour, and Joe, John, John, Chris,
> Pacpin, Frank. *We got Bryan and pinguy, someotherpinguy, Cody,
> >
> > The tech posts are my favorite to read, and they're not that great on
> pinside.
> >
> > Besides we have Lloyd, theKorn, Seymour, and Joe, John, John, Chris,
> Idnayman, Cliffy, Ed, and we got metalik, frenchy, William, Aeneas, and
> wayout, Pete, Jim, James, homebrood, barakandl,Hans, and all the people
> I like to read...sorry if I didn't mention you.
>
> Except that Lloyd and the Korn's posts are down 50-75% from their
> historical averages.
OK, so ask those 2...are they posting over on Pinside? If not, then
> wayout, Pete, Jim, James, homebrood, barakandl,Hans, and all the people
> I like to read...sorry if I didn't mention you.
>
> Except that Lloyd and the Korn's posts are down 50-75% from their
> historical averages.
that theory is out the window.
Like someone else said, with Pinwiki up and running and a great archive
from RGP with tech issues in the past, i think people are able to find
their own solutions to their problems without having to ask RGP anymore.
Like someone else said, whatever there is that could possibly break on
a pinball machine, the solution has been posted and is available.
Lloyd Olson
Dec 4, 2012, 2:28:53 PM12/4/12
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For me, there are less posts on RGP needing help, or by the time I get in
they have already been answered.
I post on Pinside, and quite a few other pinball and non pinball related
forums.
For me it's never been about number of posts, stars, points or what ever. I
scan through and mostly respond when someone has a problem I can help with.
LTG :)
"alveolus" <suz....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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they have already been answered.
I post on Pinside, and quite a few other pinball and non pinball related
forums.
For me it's never been about number of posts, stars, points or what ever. I
scan through and mostly respond when someone has a problem I can help with.
LTG :)
"alveolus" <suz....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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vid1900
Dec 4, 2012, 2:30:48 PM12/4/12
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Pacpin;2027531 Wrote:
> OK, so ask those 2...are they posting over on Pinside? If not, then
> that theory is out the window.
>
Loyd is in fact the #1 poster on Pinside.
228 posts in the last 7 days alone.
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vid1900
Pacpin
Dec 4, 2012, 2:43:29 PM12/4/12
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vid1900;2027541 Wrote:
> Loyd is in fact the #1 poster on Pinside.
>
> 228 posts in the last 7 days alone.
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Pacpin
vid1900
Dec 4, 2012, 2:51:15 PM12/4/12
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Pacpin;2027542 Wrote:
> More newbs on pinside, thus, more people needing help, makes sense.
--
vid1900
Bryan Kelly
Dec 4, 2012, 2:55:44 PM12/4/12
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I would agree. I've met about 6 new local pinheads and everyone of
them is under the age of 30.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
them is under the age of 30.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
Liftserv
Dec 4, 2012, 2:54:50 PM12/4/12
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Bryan Kelly;2027475 Wrote:
> Posting on RGP over the last 5 months has been
> I like Pinside but as someone once said, Pinside is like the Facebook
> of pinball. Seems like there are many who feel the need to make a
> comment (like "atta boy) on tons of threads. Nothing wrong with this
> but it does make it harder to wade through all those posts to get the
> real info from a thread. Same with the threads. There are just too
> many of them for me to check into and see whats being said.
>
> For me, at least, I still read RGP but because I also read Pinside, I
> find I have less time to post....on either group.
>
> Bryan (CARGPB 14)
I totaly agree!
> of pinball. Seems like there are many who feel the need to make a
> comment (like "atta boy) on tons of threads. Nothing wrong with this
> but it does make it harder to wade through all those posts to get the
> real info from a thread. Same with the threads. There are just too
> many of them for me to check into and see whats being said.
>
> For me, at least, I still read RGP but because I also read Pinside, I
> find I have less time to post....on either group.
>
> Bryan (CARGPB 14)
Jim
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Liftserv
Bryan Kelly
Dec 4, 2012, 3:13:26 PM12/4/12
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Just go here and you'll see how the numbers have dropped. I'll let
everyone else argue about why.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/about
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
everyone else argue about why.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/about
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
Lloyd Olson
Dec 4, 2012, 3:33:10 PM12/4/12
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I have a new goal. To hit 50,000 posts on Pinside next.
LTG :)
"vid1900" <vid...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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LTG :)
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homebrood
Dec 4, 2012, 3:42:11 PM12/4/12
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Thanks a lot Lloyd! :)
Tom
CEG
Dec 4, 2012, 3:52:10 PM12/4/12
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On Dec 4, 3:42 pm, homebrood <homebr...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 1:28:53 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Olson wrote:
> > For me, there are less posts on RGP needing help, or by the time I get in
>
> > they have already been answered.
>
> > I post on Pinside, and quite a few other pinball and non pinball related
>
> > forums.
>
> > For me it's never been about number of posts, stars, points or what ever. I
>
> > scan through and mostly respond when someone has a problem I can help with.
>
> > LTG :)
>
> > "alveolus" <suz.sh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 1:28:53 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Olson wrote:
> > For me, there are less posts on RGP needing help, or by the time I get in
>
> > they have already been answered.
>
> > I post on Pinside, and quite a few other pinball and non pinball related
>
> > forums.
>
> > For me it's never been about number of posts, stars, points or what ever. I
>
> > scan through and mostly respond when someone has a problem I can help with.
>
> > LTG :)
>
>
> >news:70995a8e-7e86-45c6...@lg12g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Except that Lloyd and the Korn's posts are down 50-75% from their
>
> > > historical averages.
>
> The problem is Lloyd, plain and simple. He helped all of us fix our games. Now there's nothing much to talk about on here because all the pinball machines have been fixed!
>
> Thanks a lot Lloyd! :)
>
> Tom
one thing I like about RGP is when someone asks a question that has
> >news:70995a8e-7e86-45c6...@lg12g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Except that Lloyd and the Korn's posts are down 50-75% from their
>
> > > historical averages.
>
> The problem is Lloyd, plain and simple. He helped all of us fix our games. Now there's nothing much to talk about on here because all the pinball machines have been fixed!
>
> Thanks a lot Lloyd! :)
>
> Tom
been answered over & over we still tell them the answer and don't say
"Use the search function"
CEG
Dec 4, 2012, 4:41:27 PM12/4/12
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CEG
Dec 4, 2012, 4:42:29 PM12/4/12
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messages were the last 5 months.
Pin Del
Dec 4, 2012, 6:46:59 PM12/4/12
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On Dec 4, 9:50 am, Dan Q very much <dque...@new.rr.com> wrote:
> I said:
>
>
>
> > So turn new GG off! You can still use the old, ya know.
>
> This must have left some people wondering, for which I apologize. I've
> explained before, but:
>
> Click the gear symbol for Settings. Counterintuitively, you have to
> choose "Set New GG as Default", which is the exact thing you're trying
> not to do!. Then the next time you click the gear, that menu choice is
> replaced with "Revert to the Old GG."
>
> They switch you back to new every so often, but so far it lets you
> revert.
Thanks Dan,
> I said:
>
>
>
> > So turn new GG off! You can still use the old, ya know.
>
> This must have left some people wondering, for which I apologize. I've
> explained before, but:
>
> Click the gear symbol for Settings. Counterintuitively, you have to
> choose "Set New GG as Default", which is the exact thing you're trying
> not to do!. Then the next time you click the gear, that menu choice is
> replaced with "Revert to the Old GG."
>
> They switch you back to new every so often, but so far it lets you
> revert.
I'm still using the old GGs due to your help months ago ! .
Pinside reminds me of facebook ( From what I have seen ) & since I'm
not a FB fan I stay here .
The Post are down, But I have been busy anyway <shrugs >.
Pin-Del,
Pin Del
Dec 4, 2012, 6:49:07 PM12/4/12
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On Dec 4, 1:48 pm, "Kerry Imming" <kcimm...@pobox.com> wrote:
> "ldnayman" <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote in message
> - Kerry- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'll get the lights, But it will be a while before I leave :)
Thanks for the Smile, Levi ! .
Pin-Del,
> "ldnayman" <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'll get the lights, But it will be a while before I leave :)
Thanks for the Smile, Levi ! .
Pin-Del,
Jerel63
Dec 4, 2012, 7:42:17 PM12/4/12
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I joined RGP and pinside at the same time. I liked RGP because it was
the same format as KLOV but after being here for a little while reading
post and getting some pretty rude comments from a couple of people I
decided to spend a majority of time on pinside, but I still check back
with RPG at least once a day.
--
Jerel63
William Brower
Dec 4, 2012, 9:43:25 PM12/4/12
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will prove that. Is this the end of RGP? :(. It seems like one big
continuous loop of all the same questions over and over.
I find myself lurking both Pinside and RGP, but like it here better.
It's not as active here as it was in the past but I'll still visit
here at least once a day.
And if the last one here "shuts out the lights", I might be the one
flicking the switch. Hopefully not for a while :).
Bill
vid1900
Dec 4, 2012, 10:27:21 PM12/4/12
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Will it go down in internet history that one man killed RGP?
--
vid1900
pins4fun
Dec 4, 2012, 10:30:59 PM12/4/12
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16324 and 855 respectively, make no sense. These numbers seem to be
a result of the new GG format not keeping track of/archiving the posts
the way the old GG format used to. This is no longer a case of
cosmetics or a specific minor glitch, the old format has also lost
some of its functionalities.. My guess is that this partly because
people are going back to the old GG to post and their posts which are
no longer being tallied up. And, if theyu post using the new GG, then
they have problems with the their emails. Rgp through the GG is a
hybrid anomaly for the time being and I have no idea where it might be
heading, if anywhere, in the long run.
Dan Q very much
Dec 4, 2012, 11:07:17 PM12/4/12
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Frank Furhter
Dec 4, 2012, 11:30:38 PM12/4/12
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mr tobias wrote:
> On Dec 3, 11:22 pm, "nh...@yahoo.com" <nh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
>> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
>> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
>
> Two factors account for this: migration to Pinside and the new GG
> sucking big time.
>
> Pinside is ok but personally I find that if anything there is too much
> fluff to wade through on there, so I tend to only go there
> occasionally.
>
You nailed it exactly. Those that account a person or two for causing
RGP post volumes to go down are smoking jail tootsie rolls.
--
The Frankster, a playfield prankster
Once upon my crank her ballpark shrank.
http://PinWiki.net, Prep-H 4 pinballers.
CARGPB #42 (Its free to join, sign up now!)
> On Dec 3, 11:22 pm, "nh...@yahoo.com" <nh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
>> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
>> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
>
> Two factors account for this: migration to Pinside and the new GG
> sucking big time.
>
> Pinside is ok but personally I find that if anything there is too much
> fluff to wade through on there, so I tend to only go there
> occasionally.
>
You nailed it exactly. Those that account a person or two for causing
RGP post volumes to go down are smoking jail tootsie rolls.
--
The Frankster, a playfield prankster
Once upon my crank her ballpark shrank.
http://PinWiki.net, Prep-H 4 pinballers.
CARGPB #42 (Its free to join, sign up now!)
Frank Furhter
Dec 4, 2012, 11:34:01 PM12/4/12
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vid1900 wrote:
> Pacpin;2027542 Wrote:
>> More newbs on pinside, thus, more people needing help, makes sense.
>
> A crazy amount of new blood in the pinball hobby in the last year!
>
>
Crazy volume of dumb ass noobs, which is great they are somewhere else.
> Pacpin;2027542 Wrote:
>> More newbs on pinside, thus, more people needing help, makes sense.
>
> A crazy amount of new blood in the pinball hobby in the last year!
>
>
God Bless those dorks for moving quickly out of the RGP house of pain
to the coddling house of pussy.
Frank Furhter
Dec 4, 2012, 11:35:04 PM12/4/12
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grandiose soft sell on personal goodness.
Frank Furhter
Dec 4, 2012, 11:36:09 PM12/4/12
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ldnayman wrote:
> Basically it's like this-
>
> RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
> we have established-
>
> 1. Novus is better than Milwax
> 2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
> 3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
> 4. Republicans can't spell
>
> At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
> every single issue, and settled every debate.
>
> But it will live on in google archives, forever.
>
> Last one out shut the lights!
>
No, just put a fork in it.
> Basically it's like this-
>
> RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
> we have established-
>
> 1. Novus is better than Milwax
> 2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
> 3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
> 4. Republicans can't spell
>
> At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
> every single issue, and settled every debate.
>
> But it will live on in google archives, forever.
>
> Last one out shut the lights!
>
pins4fun
Dec 4, 2012, 11:49:46 PM12/4/12
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16259 vs 8626 for October 2011/12, and 15899 vs 7676 for November
2011/12, those are steep drops. It looks like some people (the ones
using the GG) are crossing over to the Pinside, as the hybrid Google
Group format cannot be the sole culprit for this. Maybe, it's about
time that some of us do some serious self reflection and and practice
a little self-moderation to save what's left of a very good deal.
John I
Dec 5, 2012, 12:10:50 AM12/5/12
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vid1900;2027730 Wrote:
> Will it go down in internet history that one man killed RGP?
the crap they spew does end up being quoted and causing hate and
discontent. Even still life is much better with them in the old trash
bin.
John
--
John I
http://www.floridaape.org/
Tracelifter
Dec 5, 2012, 12:34:03 AM12/5/12
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vid1900;2027730 Wrote:
> Will it go down in internet history that one man killed RGP?
feeding it are the ones doing it.
Not only do they feed it they have to quote it.
Put them on ignore and soon you are looking at a blank page.
Like another poster pointed out you open the page and that cockmole has
carpet bombed every post.
Since he can't be starved out the best thing to do is move on as many
have.
It isn't the troll killing RGP it is the ones who have to feed it to
keep it alive that are doing the damage.
Eric
--
Tracelifter
Dan Q very much
Dec 5, 2012, 12:54:32 AM12/5/12
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into a bigger deal than it is. That gives trolls ten times the boner
than a simple response.
It was the confluence of new GG confusion, pinside's admittedly
flashier interface, and minor annoyances on rgp that knocked back the
rgp post count so dramatically.
As I've said, fine by me, gives me more time for other things, fixing
and playing pins for instance. Seems like it's mostly me-too comments
that are missing anyway.
Aeneas - www.flippers.be
Dec 5, 2012, 2:33:51 AM12/5/12
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Op dinsdag 4 december 2012 18:13:16 UTC+1 schreef mr tobias het volgende:
> Exactly, but I don't think I want to read through 800 posts about
> Avengers, which hasn't even been released.
I feel the same.
Started a few months ago on pinside, but it's a few weeks since I have read anything there.. just too much crap.
There are some interesting posts (info about new stuff, mods, ..) but when I see mega-posts with hundreds of comments I just don't bother.
It takes me too much time to search trough all the crap to find something interesting there anymore.
RGP is a bit too slow, but at least I can keep up :)
Aeneas.
-- http://www.flippers.be
> Exactly, but I don't think I want to read through 800 posts about
> Avengers, which hasn't even been released.
I feel the same.
Started a few months ago on pinside, but it's a few weeks since I have read anything there.. just too much crap.
There are some interesting posts (info about new stuff, mods, ..) but when I see mega-posts with hundreds of comments I just don't bother.
It takes me too much time to search trough all the crap to find something interesting there anymore.
RGP is a bit too slow, but at least I can keep up :)
Aeneas.
-- http://www.flippers.be
Craig Tiano
Dec 5, 2012, 7:23:51 AM12/5/12
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:24:52 -0800 (PST), ldnayman <ldna...@aol.com>
weighty topics as:
1. Are LEDs a worthwhile upgrade for my older game?
2. Do some machines look better with LEDs only in selected places?
3. If I put green LEDs under a green insert, does that look better or
is it too distracting?
4. If designers had inexpensive LEDs when they designed the games,
would they have used them?
5. I'm trying to sell my Raven, which I've upgraded with LEDs and it
looks great!
6. Which stores sell the cheapest children's toy (which preferrably
has an LED in it) that I can re-purpose to put on my "customized"
game.
wrote:
>Basically it's like this-
>
>RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
>we have established-
>
>1. Novus is better than Milwax
>2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
>3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
>4. Republicans can't spell
>
>At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
>every single issue, and settled every debate.
>
>But it will live on in google archives, forever.
>
>Last one out shut the lights!
If RGP is to become relevent again, we'll have to start posting such
>Basically it's like this-
>
>RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
>we have established-
>
>1. Novus is better than Milwax
>2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
>3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
>4. Republicans can't spell
>
>At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
>every single issue, and settled every debate.
>
>But it will live on in google archives, forever.
>
>Last one out shut the lights!
weighty topics as:
1. Are LEDs a worthwhile upgrade for my older game?
2. Do some machines look better with LEDs only in selected places?
3. If I put green LEDs under a green insert, does that look better or
is it too distracting?
4. If designers had inexpensive LEDs when they designed the games,
would they have used them?
5. I'm trying to sell my Raven, which I've upgraded with LEDs and it
looks great!
6. Which stores sell the cheapest children's toy (which preferrably
has an LED in it) that I can re-purpose to put on my "customized"
game.
sidneygreen
Dec 5, 2012, 8:02:43 AM12/5/12
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hit nail on head. basically two current posters killed this place.
one that would call anyone selling a game for market value all sorts
of terrible names (interesting i dont see him much anymore after i
called him out on it) and another that doesn't understand that his
comments are worthless and no one cares. i dont want to mess around
with filters and such. i just want to get on rpg and see whats up.
maybe ask a question, put a for sale post up, or look for a machine to
buy. if something is of interest, i will read it. but to go through
posts calling me terrible names for selling a tron le for actually
less than what it was worth and seeing post after post from you know
who just makes it unenjoyable. not sure if a moderator was ever an
option but that is what was really needed here but i think it is too
late now.
one that would call anyone selling a game for market value all sorts
of terrible names (interesting i dont see him much anymore after i
called him out on it) and another that doesn't understand that his
comments are worthless and no one cares. i dont want to mess around
with filters and such. i just want to get on rpg and see whats up.
maybe ask a question, put a for sale post up, or look for a machine to
buy. if something is of interest, i will read it. but to go through
posts calling me terrible names for selling a tron le for actually
less than what it was worth and seeing post after post from you know
who just makes it unenjoyable. not sure if a moderator was ever an
option but that is what was really needed here but i think it is too
late now.
Scylla
Dec 5, 2012, 9:03:08 AM12/5/12
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On Dec 4, 8:50 am, Dan Q very much <dque...@new.rr.com> wrote:
> I said:
>
>
>
> > So turn new GG off! You can still use the old, ya know.
>
> This must have left some people wondering, for which I apologize. I've
> explained before, but:
>
> Click the gear symbol for Settings. Counterintuitively, you have to
> choose "Set New GG as Default", which is the exact thing you're trying
> not to do!. Then the next time you click the gear, that menu choice is
> replaced with "Revert to the Old GG."
>
> They switch you back to new every so often, but so far it lets you
> revert.
For iPad users, you can only do this if you switch over to the desktop
> I said:
>
>
>
> > So turn new GG off! You can still use the old, ya know.
>
> This must have left some people wondering, for which I apologize. I've
> explained before, but:
>
> Click the gear symbol for Settings. Counterintuitively, you have to
> choose "Set New GG as Default", which is the exact thing you're trying
> not to do!. Then the next time you click the gear, that menu choice is
> replaced with "Revert to the Old GG."
>
> They switch you back to new every so often, but so far it lets you
> revert.
version first. I just reverted today so thanks for reminder, Dan. I
did spend more time on pinside the last year to avoid some of the
negativity here but generally take a look at both sites. Overall, just
far less time to be active in either.
Pacpin
Dec 5, 2012, 9:36:58 AM12/5/12
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Tracelifter;2027793 Wrote:
> No, The people that can't ignore the goddamn troll Todd Nathan and keep
> feeding it are the ones doing it.
> Not only do they feed it they have to quote it.
> Put them on ignore and soon you are looking at a blank page.
> Like another poster pointed out you open the page and that cockmole has
> carpet bombed every post.
> Since he can't be starved out the best thing to do is move on as many
> have.
> It isn't the troll killing RGP it is the ones who have to feed it to
> keep it alive that are doing the damage.
>
> Eric
thread, and all his posts are pointless ignorant drivel, but you just
skim over it and move on. Seriously, does just seeing his name in the
thread bother you so much that you'd up and leave?? Nothing i have ever
read from him has illicited more of a response than a simple smirk
thinking to myself how silly he looks trying to pretend to be smart.
But that's it, I don't even waste my time killfiling or ignoring or
whatever. If you get that upset over something someone posts on a
message board, then i don't know what to tell you. Lots of things i see
and hear and read in my everyday day to day life aren't always pleasant.
You should have the skill by now to simply ignore the stuff that
bothers you.
--
Pacpin
Rumpel Tilt-skin
Dec 5, 2012, 11:23:34 AM12/5/12
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Neither is perfect.
Pinside has many more inane posts that take more time to filter through.
RGP has many more frustrated A-holes who feel superior and constantly tout how much better it is than pinside.
Pinside has many more inane posts that take more time to filter through.
RGP has many more frustrated A-holes who feel superior and constantly tout how much better it is than pinside.
MtnFrost
Dec 5, 2012, 12:25:23 PM12/5/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 3:22:25 PM UTC-8, nh...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
>
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
>
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
I'm glad you asked, I just came back to the group today, and was wondering the same thing.
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
>
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
>
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
vid1900
Dec 5, 2012, 12:58:53 PM12/5/12
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Rumpel Tilt-skin;2027904 Wrote:
>
>
> Pinside has many more inane posts that take more time to filter through.
>
>
Pinside, you hit the TECHNICAL HELP filter on the left hand side.
If you don't want to read about EVENTS, MODS, OT, EMs, JERSEY JACK, GAME
ROOMS, PLAYING TIPS, or other topics, un-check the filter boxes on the
left hand side.
This feature quickly cuts out 80% of the fluff on the site.
--
vid1900
underlord
Dec 5, 2012, 1:10:56 PM12/5/12
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Pinside. I used to post here all the time. This is my first visit in
months.
The RGP bridge is much too small for the amount of trolls under it.
If this site went belly-up, I would only miss the history of useful info
from years past.
Much prefer the sunnier side of pinball, will gladly take a moderated
version of that over the plethora of negative bashing; too many
dipshits with a soap box.
Oops, did I just post a negative? Sorry, but too true.
:-(
--
underlord
--Rick.
underlord
Dec 5, 2012, 1:18:00 PM12/5/12
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Too many posts there? Ok. Wish all the websites had that problem. I
find the interface AND commaradity refreshing after being bashed around
here for years.
Enjoy the silence I guess, but your missing out on a great experience.
Besides, alot of the better ( and worse) folks from here are over there,
except better.
examiner
Dec 5, 2012, 1:17:36 PM12/5/12
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vid1900;2027927 Wrote:
> Of course I'm posting the obvious, but if you only want TECH posts on
> Pinside, you hit the TECHNICAL HELP filter on the left hand side.
>
> If you don't want to read about EVENTS, MODS, OT, EMs, JERSEY JACK, GAME
> ROOMS, PLAYING TIPS, or other topics, un-check the filter boxes on the
> left hand side.
>
> This feature quickly cuts out 80% of the fluff on the site.
week or so. But ya, if those are the kinds of things that bothered you
in the past, there is a way around it now and it might be worth a
revisit.
--
examiner
Pacpin
Dec 5, 2012, 3:08:08 PM12/5/12
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underlord;2027940 Wrote:
> Too many posts there? Ok. Wish all the websites had that problem. I
> find the interface AND commaradity refreshing after being bashed around
> here for years.
>
> Enjoy the silence I guess, but your missing out on a great experience.
> Besides, alot of the better ( and worse) folks from here are over there,
> except better.
don't feel like i need to have a bunch of online friends around me
patting me on the back stroking me off everytime i make a post. But if
some do, then more power to you. I'm not a member of the younger
generation, so this whole 'feeling like i have to belong" type online
vibe facebook and twitter and Pinside provides people escapes me. I go
online to get information and leave my social needs to real life.
--
Pacpin
Kyle Wren
Dec 5, 2012, 4:14:18 PM12/5/12
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In article <underlor...@rrgparchive.com>, underlord says...
defending Wayne. And let's be clear, you deserved that. :-)
>Enjoy the silence I guess, but your missing out on a great experience.
>Besides, alot of the better ( and worse) folks from here are over there,
>except better.
People behaving because they are in an environment that is monitored and
moderated might *seem* better. But what you are giving up for the civility is
never worth it in the end. IMHO.
--
- Kyle
CARGPB #27
>
>Too many posts there? Ok. Wish all the websites had that problem. I
>find the interface AND commaradity refreshing after being bashed around
>here for years.
Rick, we love you here and all I ever remember is people making fun of you for
>Too many posts there? Ok. Wish all the websites had that problem. I
>find the interface AND commaradity refreshing after being bashed around
>here for years.
defending Wayne. And let's be clear, you deserved that. :-)
>Enjoy the silence I guess, but your missing out on a great experience.
>Besides, alot of the better ( and worse) folks from here are over there,
>except better.
moderated might *seem* better. But what you are giving up for the civility is
never worth it in the end. IMHO.
--
- Kyle
CARGPB #27
bmichal...@gmail.com
Dec 5, 2012, 4:35:32 PM12/5/12
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On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 1:24:52 PM UTC-5, ldnayman wrote:
> Basically it's like this-
>
>
>
> RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
>
> we have established-
>
>
>
> 1. Novus is better than Milwax
>
> 2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
>
> 3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
>
> 4. Republicans can't spell
>
>
>
> At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
>
> every single issue, and settled every debate.
>
>
>
> But it will live on in google archives, forever.
>
>
>
> Last one out shut the lights!
I dunno'... I think the LED debate could go on for years:
> Basically it's like this-
>
>
>
> RGP has finally completed its purpose. Over 20 years of fierce debate,
>
> we have established-
>
>
>
> 1. Novus is better than Milwax
>
> 2. WPC games are the best games that ever have or will be made
>
> 3. People who don't like EMs have no soul
>
> 4. Republicans can't spell
>
>
>
> At this point, there really is nothing more to talk about. We've fixed
>
> every single issue, and settled every debate.
>
>
>
> But it will live on in google archives, forever.
>
>
>
> Last one out shut the lights!
- In general, people that like them vs. people that don't
- People that like them for controlled playfield lamps vs. people that don't
- People that like brightly lit playfield inserts vs. people like less lit, hot ones
- People who claim they don't leave their games on all day so it doesn't matter if they LED or not
- People that like "warm glow" clearly do not understand heat transfer or energy waste. True or false?
- People that like "warm glow" behind a white insert or white bumper caps really don't like the color white, they like the color yellowish-orange
- People who use incandescent bulbs use terms like "it looks natural" and then put them behind white inserts thus turning them lit yellow. If I use a purple lamp instead does that look natural too? What's your favorite colored crayon, 'flesh tone'? What color is that?
- People that like the use of LEDs for GI lighting vs. people that are stupid
- Then there's the whole argument amongst LED devotees about which LEDs are the best and which ones should be used for specific lighting.
There's more work to do...
heckheck
Dec 5, 2012, 5:02:55 PM12/5/12
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Well Pinside seems to be where it's at more and more. To me I chalk it up to what's already been stated.
Too many trolls on RGP
Google groups is killing me
and one more very nice Pinside "feature", sub groups. At least I can check in on a related group of threads to find say what's going on with the Jersey Jack tribe, etc. all in one easy quick look.
Now on to the LED smackdown my good friend Bayobilly has set up for me.
> I dunno'... I think the LED debate could go on for years:
>
> - In general, people that like them vs. people that don't
Untrue I both like AND dislike (in some circumstances) them.
>
>
>
> - People that like them for controlled playfield lamps vs. people that don't
Incandescent GI all the way baby! Nothing beats that warm glow on my classic Ballys!
>
> - People who claim they don't leave their games on all day so it doesn't matter if they LED or not
You're right, it doesn't :-)
>
> - People that like "warm glow" clearly do not understand heat transfer or energy waste. True or false?
False, warm glow and heat transfer are two separate topics.
>
> - People that like "warm glow" behind a white insert or white bumper caps really don't like the color white, they like the color yellowish-orange
Or they don't like bluish white. LED cool white is really light blue, and no that doesn't go well with red, yellow or orange pf artwork! Behind an insert or in a pop bumper fine. For GI heresy.
>
> - People who use incandescent bulbs use terms like "it looks natural" and then put them behind white inserts thus turning them lit yellow. If I use a purple lamp instead does that look natural too? What's your favorite colored crayon, 'flesh tone'? What color is that?
>
You've convinced me that inserts are best lit with LEDs. They are much nicer white than yellow.
>
>
> - People that like the use of LEDs for GI lighting vs. people that are stupid
Duh.
-Jim
Too many trolls on RGP
Google groups is killing me
and one more very nice Pinside "feature", sub groups. At least I can check in on a related group of threads to find say what's going on with the Jersey Jack tribe, etc. all in one easy quick look.
Now on to the LED smackdown my good friend Bayobilly has set up for me.
> I dunno'... I think the LED debate could go on for years:
>
> - In general, people that like them vs. people that don't
>
>
>
> - People that like them for controlled playfield lamps vs. people that don't
>
> - People who claim they don't leave their games on all day so it doesn't matter if they LED or not
>
> - People that like "warm glow" clearly do not understand heat transfer or energy waste. True or false?
>
> - People that like "warm glow" behind a white insert or white bumper caps really don't like the color white, they like the color yellowish-orange
>
> - People who use incandescent bulbs use terms like "it looks natural" and then put them behind white inserts thus turning them lit yellow. If I use a purple lamp instead does that look natural too? What's your favorite colored crayon, 'flesh tone'? What color is that?
>
>
>
> - People that like the use of LEDs for GI lighting vs. people that are stupid
-Jim
bayoubilly70
Dec 5, 2012, 5:15:04 PM12/5/12
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On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:02:55 PM UTC-5, heckheck wrote:
> Well Pinside seems to be where it's at more and more. To me I chalk it up to what's already been stated.
>
>
>
> Too many trolls on RGP
>
> Google groups is killing me
>
>
>
> and one more very nice Pinside "feature", sub groups. At least I can check in on a related group of threads to find say what's going on with the Jersey Jack tribe, etc. all in one easy quick look.
>
>
>
> Now on to the LED smackdown my good friend Bayobilly has set up for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I dunno'... I think the LED debate could go on for years:
>
> >
>
> > - In general, people that like them vs. people that don't
>
>
>
> Untrue I both like AND dislike (in some circumstances) them.
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > - People that like them for controlled playfield lamps vs. people that don't
>
>
>
> Incandescent GI all the way baby! Nothing beats that warm glow on my classic Ballys!
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> > - People who claim they don't leave their games on all day so it doesn't matter if they LED or not
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> You're right, it doesn't :-)
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> > - People that like "warm glow" clearly do not understand heat transfer or energy waste. True or false?
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> False, warm glow and heat transfer are two separate topics.
You just proved my point. The answer is 'True'.
> Well Pinside seems to be where it's at more and more. To me I chalk it up to what's already been stated.
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> Too many trolls on RGP
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> Google groups is killing me
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> and one more very nice Pinside "feature", sub groups. At least I can check in on a related group of threads to find say what's going on with the Jersey Jack tribe, etc. all in one easy quick look.
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> Now on to the LED smackdown my good friend Bayobilly has set up for me.
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> > I dunno'... I think the LED debate could go on for years:
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> > - In general, people that like them vs. people that don't
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> Untrue I both like AND dislike (in some circumstances) them.
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> > - People that like them for controlled playfield lamps vs. people that don't
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> Incandescent GI all the way baby! Nothing beats that warm glow on my classic Ballys!
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> >
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> > - People who claim they don't leave their games on all day so it doesn't matter if they LED or not
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> You're right, it doesn't :-)
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> >
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> > - People that like "warm glow" clearly do not understand heat transfer or energy waste. True or false?
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> False, warm glow and heat transfer are two separate topics.
Terrapin Mark
Dec 5, 2012, 5:29:13 PM12/5/12
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On Dec 5, 4:14 pm, Kyle Wren <kylewrenT...@cinci.rrOUT.com> wrote:
> People behaving because they are in an environment that is monitored and
> moderated might *seem* better. But what you are giving up for the civility is
> never worth it in the end. IMHO.
Thats right Kyle. The mere mention of "Wayne" or "Medieval Remake"
> People behaving because they are in an environment that is monitored and
> moderated might *seem* better. But what you are giving up for the civility is
> never worth it in the end. IMHO.
used to send you off of the deep end. How I miss those long posts :)
I spend much more time on rgp than pin side. But that time (on a
pinball newsgroup/forum) is way less overall than before. In terms of
pinball, that time is being spent less on the computer and more time
fixing up games and being in a local league.
Mark Salas
CARGPB 30
cody chunn
Dec 5, 2012, 6:20:04 PM12/5/12
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"Constantly"? The only time I see RGP defended is when a pinside evangelist
comes here and shoots of his blow hole.
-cody
"Rumpel Tilt-skin" wrote in message
news:ae870829-a490-49c1...@googlegroups.com...
comes here and shoots of his blow hole.
-cody
"Rumpel Tilt-skin" wrote in message
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underlord
Dec 5, 2012, 6:58:48 PM12/5/12
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Kyle Wren;2028011 Wrote:
> In article <underlord.5n43w1 (AT) rrgparchive (DOT) com>, underlord
There just might be hope here yet! Congrats man! Well deserved!
thewhite...@cox.net
Dec 5, 2012, 7:00:47 PM12/5/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 5:22:25 PM UTC-6, nh...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting elsewhere? Or just too busy?
This topic comes up every fucking month. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!!! :-)
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting elsewhere? Or just too busy?
j j
Dec 5, 2012, 7:05:54 PM12/5/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Now better time than NOW for everyone to go over and join pinside!
Jump this sinking ship before it takes you down with it!! Let the
curmudgeons stay here and bicker amongst themselves when they don't
have anyone else to pick on........
CactusJack
Dec 5, 2012, 7:05:41 PM12/5/12
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thewhitehouse1006;2028083 Wrote:
> On Monday, December 3, 2012 5:22:25 PM UTC-6, nh... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
> wrote:
> > It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
>
> This topic comes up every fucking month. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!!!
> :-) But then, there would be one fewer post each month on RGP. And,
> > It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
>
> This topic comes up every fucking month. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!!!
apparently, we need to keep the post count up or the world as we know
it, just might end.......
RB
--
CactusJack
cody chunn
Dec 5, 2012, 9:24:15 PM12/5/12
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Hallelujah my evangelist brother!
Yes, please, by all means...JUMP!
-cody
"j j" wrote in message
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Yes, please, by all means...JUMP!
-cody
"j j" wrote in message
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thepen...@gmail.com
Dec 5, 2012, 9:51:42 PM12/5/12
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On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:34:01 PM UTC-5, Frank Furhter wrote:
> vid1900 wrote:
>
> > Pacpin;2027542 Wrote:
>
> >> More newbs on pinside, thus, more people needing help, makes sense.
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> >
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> > A crazy amount of new blood in the pinball hobby in the last year!
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> >
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> >
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>
>
> Crazy volume of dumb ass noobs, which is great they are somewhere else.
>
> God Bless those dorks for moving quickly out of the RGP house of pain
>
> to the coddling house of pussy.
>
>
>
> --
>
> The Frankster, a playfield prankster
>
> Once upon my crank her ballpark shrank.
>
> http://PinWiki.net, Prep-H 4 pinballers.
>
> CARGPB #42 (Its free to join, sign up now!)
I grew tired of skipping past Franks posts. I am sure others have as well. You can only skip past so many self impressed posts. No need to rebuttal, I won't be reading it :) See you on Pinside, oh wait you are not on Pinside, I wonder why that is?
> vid1900 wrote:
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> > Pacpin;2027542 Wrote:
>
> >> More newbs on pinside, thus, more people needing help, makes sense.
>
> >
>
> > A crazy amount of new blood in the pinball hobby in the last year!
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> Crazy volume of dumb ass noobs, which is great they are somewhere else.
>
> God Bless those dorks for moving quickly out of the RGP house of pain
>
> to the coddling house of pussy.
>
>
>
> --
>
> The Frankster, a playfield prankster
>
> Once upon my crank her ballpark shrank.
>
> http://PinWiki.net, Prep-H 4 pinballers.
>
> CARGPB #42 (Its free to join, sign up now!)
I grew tired of skipping past Franks posts. I am sure others have as well. You can only skip past so many self impressed posts. No need to rebuttal, I won't be reading it :) See you on Pinside, oh wait you are not on Pinside, I wonder why that is?
rob046
Dec 5, 2012, 10:21:30 PM12/5/12
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I do think that RGP is definitely viewed as the place for older people or those who just don't like change. However, I still find value in that. There are some incredibly wise people here too. There are some at pinside too, but I'm sure fewer per capita. & when I'm working on a 30 year old circuit board, I like to be sure I'm getting sound advice. RGP has really never failed me.
I've been into pinball more heavily for I guess nearly 9 years now, & been a pin owner for going on 5. All that when I was in my 20's, & I'm early 30's now. & at times it would be a little tough to relate to a lot of people here, or the hobby in general as aside from myself I just never ran into any other younger pinheads. EM's were long gone by the time I was even born.
Things are changing. I noticed both online & at events, more younger people are gradually finding their way. & with RGP being a newsgroup, of course it is likely that pinside is the more likely place they end up. For people my age & younger, I certainly see the appeal of it.
However, why pick sides? I use both. I try to use & support whatever pinball related sites are out there. RGP still has its usefulness, for sure. Hopefully it will continue to, but if not then at least we got so many years of archived posts that hopefully will continue to pop up on google searches. But again, it is a newsgroup, of course things were gonna change a bit over time.
I've been into pinball more heavily for I guess nearly 9 years now, & been a pin owner for going on 5. All that when I was in my 20's, & I'm early 30's now. & at times it would be a little tough to relate to a lot of people here, or the hobby in general as aside from myself I just never ran into any other younger pinheads. EM's were long gone by the time I was even born.
Things are changing. I noticed both online & at events, more younger people are gradually finding their way. & with RGP being a newsgroup, of course it is likely that pinside is the more likely place they end up. For people my age & younger, I certainly see the appeal of it.
However, why pick sides? I use both. I try to use & support whatever pinball related sites are out there. RGP still has its usefulness, for sure. Hopefully it will continue to, but if not then at least we got so many years of archived posts that hopefully will continue to pop up on google searches. But again, it is a newsgroup, of course things were gonna change a bit over time.
pins4fun
Dec 5, 2012, 11:25:19 PM12/5/12
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On Dec 5, 10:21 pm, rob046 <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> .. RGP still has its usefulness, for sure. Hopefully it will continue to, but if not then at least we got so many years of archived posts that hopefully will continue to pop up on google searches. But again, it is a newsgroup, of course things were gonna change a bit over
> time.
You almost sound like your writing an obituary for rgp. Not so fast,
rgp isn't dead yet, despite the gloom hanging over it. The reports of
its demise are greatly exaggerated.
>
> .. RGP still has its usefulness, for sure. Hopefully it will continue to, but if not then at least we got so many years of archived posts that hopefully will continue to pop up on google searches. But again, it is a newsgroup, of course things were gonna change a bit over
> time.
You almost sound like your writing an obituary for rgp. Not so fast,
rgp isn't dead yet, despite the gloom hanging over it. The reports of
its demise are greatly exaggerated.
Kyle Wren
Dec 6, 2012, 2:19:28 PM12/6/12
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In article <a943c8a0-f011-478c...@jj5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Terrapin Mark says...
Khan that I would play in my mind. I'm feeling better now actually, although it
does still bug me a bit that we will never have any real resolution to that
whole drama. I can respect that Planetary Pinball didn't want to be the bad guys
on the remake deal but the fact is until *some* outside party puts a stop to it
Wayne will advertise forever that he is working on the remake, and potentially
he will continue to hold funds from people that don't have the courage to ask
for it back. Eventually someone will end it all, and of course Wayne will be
able to say he was 3 months away from shipping when "X" shut him down. :-)
Good times....
Terrapin Mark says...
>
>Thats right Kyle. The mere mention of "Wayne" or "Medieval Remake"
>used to send you off of the deep end. How I miss those long posts :)
Whenever I used to think about Wayne there was a scene from Star Trek II with
>Thats right Kyle. The mere mention of "Wayne" or "Medieval Remake"
>used to send you off of the deep end. How I miss those long posts :)
Khan that I would play in my mind. I'm feeling better now actually, although it
does still bug me a bit that we will never have any real resolution to that
whole drama. I can respect that Planetary Pinball didn't want to be the bad guys
on the remake deal but the fact is until *some* outside party puts a stop to it
Wayne will advertise forever that he is working on the remake, and potentially
he will continue to hold funds from people that don't have the courage to ask
for it back. Eventually someone will end it all, and of course Wayne will be
able to say he was 3 months away from shipping when "X" shut him down. :-)
Good times....
Kyle Wren
Dec 6, 2012, 2:22:59 PM12/6/12
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>OMG! Kyle! You got a CARGPB #???
>There just might be hope here yet! Congrats man! Well deserved!
Thanks! You should stick around here more, you are a voice of reason which is
>There just might be hope here yet! Congrats man! Well deserved!
needed around here. :-)
homebrood
Dec 6, 2012, 4:10:56 PM12/6/12
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On Monday, December 3, 2012 5:22:25 PM UTC-6, nh...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
>
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
>
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
Yes
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
>
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
>
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
The Baron
Dec 6, 2012, 5:57:23 PM12/6/12
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On Dec 3, 4:22 pm, "nh...@yahoo.com" <nh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
I went to pinside for a few months, but I think I'm coming back here.
> It seems there a fewer daily posts on RGP than I remember in past
> months. Do people not like the new format via Google groups? Posting
> elsewhere? Or just too busy?
I know we were all noobies to the hobby at one point, but it really
does get irritating seeing the same types of posts over and over
again. I wish people over there would point folks to the RGP archives
every once in awhile because ALL the information is literally over
here.
Frank Furhter
Dec 6, 2012, 9:18:49 PM12/6/12
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leading the blind, its pretty funny to read a thread over there, for
differing reasons the same here.
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