Safe Cracker cabinet decals- Wayne, could you?
MB
well as the MM decals.
I do want to say, however, that whatever process was used is not near
as nice as those used on your latest MM decals- which are truly
remarkable. SOmething about the process or finish that is quite
different, making these SC surfaces quite fragile adn prone to
scratching. ???
Are there any plans to re-do these in the same amnner that MM was
done? I will pre-buy 10 sets if helpful to get the re-run of these,
using the new method, started.
Anyone else notice this?
Marc
freeplayer
It's most likely Digital High Quality HP Ink Jet printed vs. Offset or
Silk Screened printed with a UV Varnish clear coat. I believe Wayne
is reproducing the new cabinet decals similar to his repro translites
in the Digital process, that's the way he explains the repro process
to me in a recent email. Don't quote me on that, perhaps Wayne can
ring in to explain the details.
Ballypinball
Safecracker are Screenprinted and are the same we have always sold.
MM now are on the new system which as you say is remarkable
we can run SC off on the new system if you want, just ask at the time
PS Our new decals are more durable than screenprint, have the same
feel and dots as screen print, whatever people want to call it, the
product is better than anything on the market.
PS TZ translites now available on exchange
Taylor-VA
Could you, or someone, post side by side pics of the MM decals to
show the difference if any.
I would entertain the SC decals but have heard the screened ones are
prone to scratching.
Is the newer method less prone?
Ballypinball
the newer method are scratch resistant, you would damage the vinyl
before making a mark in the art, they are also ant graffiti , in fact
our test show any signs of scratches can be rubbed out with your
thumb.
We have also just received 1,000 mts of the same vinyl used on the
original games, this vinyl sticks like nothing else and air bubbles
rub out, very easy to fit.
If an interested party wishes to run some tests on a sample, feel free
to contact me.
joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com
the shooter rod getting it lined up and scratched the ink off all over
by the shooter rod. It looks like ass now! They scratch VERY easy
and it is quite noticeable given it is on the front of the cabinet.
Lucky for me it is in an area where it is black and I can repaint or
sharpie the marks and it won't be noticeable any more.
They were applied by the previous owner so I can't say with 110%
certainty that they came from TPF but I assume the did.
Chris
greatw...@hotmail.com
Wayne: I have no business dealings with you, & probably never will. If
you want a true test of your TZ translite let me know & I will have
one printed up on my printers new Epson 1200 dpi printer. I believe
you are using a Roland, & I can have a local Roland service rep look &
compare the results. Your file would remain your property & my test
result would be given to you. Also the Roland service rep might do
some further testing to see if your results are bang on. Your model &
maybe higher end Roland printers.
Same with your decals, my printer & the local Roland service rep can
have a look. If they think something else could be done to help the
process or make a better product, they will let me know.
I am not an expert on printing technolgy, but my local experts are. If
I can help out, I will for the better of the pinball hobby!
Twilight4u
scratched very easy
Thanks Wayne another great product from down under
Ray
P.S How about a refund? LOL
underlord
I purchased my SC decals last May, installed on pin and they scratched
VERY easily! Any scratch on the black ink of the decal immediately
shows up as a white scratch! I had to repair the brand new decals!
Not happy. Also installed Getaway decals, same thing! WTF??
--Rick.
spike
Any plans to do Black Rose - one of the most fade prone cabs next to
Indy :-)
Spike
Nottingham, England
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Wayne, perhaps one way of improving your orders for the artwork decals
is to create samples of the title artwork, run a few Safe Cracker
samples and cut them up into smaller samples. You can send them out
for $10 so the buyer can compare, see and feel them. If they order
the full set they will get a $10 credit. You might want to try the
same for Translite artwork samples. Just a suggestion.
Ballypinball
Getaway Cabinet decals were not made by us.
I have spare coin door decals I can replace if you have a faulty one.
I will speak to our printer and advise of the problems with the SC art
you mention.
I will get our guys to do up some coin door decals on the new system
to compare.
It is no secret our machine is a NEW UV Roland however the software
running it is custom prototype software and even if you had the same
machine you would not be able to produce the same finish or results.
For example the standard software you have full gloss or matt, matt is
too dull and gloss shows up every spec of dust, we have control over
the gloss from 10% to 100%
WNUTS
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Hi Wayne,
I guess you ran the CV cabinet graphics too? Same deal with them,
very nice but prone to scratching. While trimming the graphics you
could see the ink coming off the edges of the vinyl. I tried a test on
the coin door cut out. You could take your nail and scrape the ink
right off the vinyl.
honda350r
on them, they feel very smooth like they are inkjet printed and not
screened? Has any one have any experience with these Totan decals and
do they scratch easy too?
Jim
Ballypinball
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I think i know what your problem is
Screen Print Ink is rigid and vinyl shrinks, so over years if the
sideart is not fitted onto the game or not stored right the vinyl
shrinks and the ink has nowhere to go but crack.
This is why WMS never sold cabinet art and why it was not available as
a spare part.
the NOS Monster bash and CC being sold cracks when you apply it,
because it is past it's use by date,
I have also seen this on newly printed sideart where they split when
the top clearcoat shrinks different to the ink underneath.
New technology is flexible ink which does not crack, why we are
changing over to this long term method
remember originals were printed onto the already attached vinyl on the
cabinet.
B Coney
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Ok, so I have a set of your MM cab art that I got a couple months ago.
Am I ok or do I need to store them a specific way to prevent this? I
will not be using them until at least a year from now so I want to
make sure I don't damage them. Currently I have them in the tube they
were shipped in located in my closet. Will they be ok like that until
I'm ready to use them?
Brian
Taylor-VA
I would store them flat if at all possible.
I used some wh20 decals that were "W/B approved"
They were screened and seem to be very stable.
Great adhesion also.
Hugh
I've used TPF's IJ decals and I had zero problems with scratching.
They withheld being installed with a wallpaper blade. I think they
were screened though.
I think being able to get a small sample is a great idea.
Hugh
MB
method- how/where would we specify that on the online order form?
Thanks-
Marc
Ballypinball
just email parts@pinball with your request.
Art stored flat is best and in a climate controlled room.
If the temp drops during winter and is high during summer the vinyl
will react and shrink, NO matter who made the decals.
This is also why printed on demand is best, freshly printed art will
be better than art stored for 5-10 years
brainsnap
people.
After YEARS of dodging RGP due to HIS well known incompetence and HIS
absolute silence / not wanting to answer MANY MANY MANY posts and
questions about his ‘business operations’ and where the hell his games
are …….WHY all of a sudden does the ‘blunder’ get a voice here at RGP
and what’s worse is that people want to engage with him , some of them
seemingly quite sincerely …..and now what …we seem to BELIEVE anything
he now says? WHY is he now entering into discussion about pinball
‘stuff’?
AND who says HE is all of a sudden and EXPERT on printing decals and
knowledge of how they print and are to be stored?
He is YET to prove he is half an expert on ANYTHING.
GIVE ME A BREAK PEOPLE…….all I can say is that I guess some of the
responders in this thread have no idea of the history of this ‘person’
10 days until the first MM rolls off the production line too now……
remember , he is on the record stating this……he was meant to be
churning out 20+ cabinets a day months ago……..so , seeing as you are
answering questions here at RGP now Wayne – ANSWER THAT ONE !
greatw...@hotmail.com
The storing of decals or printed stuff flat is well known, not in a
tube. Some of us are still offering to help for the better of the
hobby. My offer is still there for Wayne, & my printer & Roland
Service Rep have high priced programs themselves.
Ballypinball
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> On Dec 20, 4:45 pm, brainsnap <brains...@kooee.com.au> wrote:
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> > So- hang on a minute ……. I cannot believe the shallow memory of some
> > people.
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> > After YEARS of dodging RGP due to HIS well known incompetence and HIS
> > absolute silence / not wanting to answer MANY MANY MANY posts and
> > questions about his ‘business operations’ and where the hell his games
> > are …….WHY all of a sudden does the ‘blunder’ get a voice here at RGP
> > and what’s worse is that people want to engage with him , some of them
> > seemingly quite sincerely …..and now what …we seem to BELIEVE anything
> > he now says? WHY is he now entering into discussion about pinball
> > ‘stuff’?
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> > AND who says HE is all of a sudden and EXPERT on printing decals and
> > knowledge of how they print and are to be stored?
> > He is YET to prove he is half an expert on ANYTHING.
>
> > GIVE ME A BREAK PEOPLE…….all I can say is that I guess some of the
> > responders in this thread have no idea of the history of this ‘person’
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> > 10 days until the first MM rolls off the production line too now……
> > remember , he is on the record stating this……he was meant to be
> > churning out 20+ cabinets a day months ago……..so , seeing as you are
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> The storing of decals or printed stuff flat is well known, not in a
> tube. Some of us are still offering to help for the better of the
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print samples posted today to those requested
brainsnap
> print samples posted today to those requested- >
Can I get some ??
machine.slave
able to get your decal sheets laminated. Staples and Office Depot
have the ability to laminate larger sheets for a set square footage
price.
HOWEVER
Take a small piece in first and have them test it. Chances are the
vinyl material wouldn't stand up to the heat-applied laminate, but
there are cold laminate options available.
If any of you give it a shot, let us know how it goes..