Jersey Jack Pinball Experience(TM) Announcement

[Kerry Imming]

FYI... saw the following press release today:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jersey-jack-pinball-inc-and-dynamics-inc-unveil-exclusive-pinball-experiencetm-application-for-eplatetm-payment-devices-2012-04-19

I know I'm just getting dumber, but I have no idea what a "Pinball
Experience" is. It says there will be a future announce explaining what
ePlate(TM) payment device is.

- Kerry

[Garrett]

Jack eluded to this at MPE. The coin slot is outdated and he wants to
make it easier for the operators to collect revenue. Makes sense.

Common sense says use the smart phone technology.

"Pinball...yeah, there's an app for that".


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[vid1900]

http://tinyurl.com/79ggqnp


Just in case you were not getting enough big brother in your diet
already...


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vid1900

[gearheaddroppings]

Another article featuring the announcement with JJP:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dynamics-changes-payments-forever-eplate-040100633.html

[Mr. 68]

Cool. I haven’t had an experience since Hendrix.

Kim
http://www.WrongCrowdProductions.com/
CARGPB #36

[PinballSales Jack]

Paper money is going soon......Coins are already gone.

How else to get money into games - that's the future - not my idea -
just what is happening.

Better idea - to deny there is change, progress or something
else....uhhhh....sorry, that was already done too.

[AddictedToEMs]

On Apr 19, 2:07 pm, "Mr. 68" <M...@q.com> wrote:

Kim - you only get the experience when you use the eplate at a strip
club or massage parlor.

[James Lewis]

Paper money is going soon......Coins are already gone.

No one will be able to buy or sell without the mark


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James Lewis

[pokepin]

kcimming;1925918 Wrote:
> FYI... saw the following press release today:

> http://tinyurl.com/768n5sd

>
> I know I'm just getting dumber, but I have no idea what a "Pinball
> Experience" is. It says there will be a future announce explaining what
>
> ePlate(TM) payment device is.
>
> - Kerry

Sounds like in-app purchases are coming to pinball. Want an extra game
or ball? Swipe your card. Want 'premium' graphics to come up on the Oz
LCD? Swipe a card.. Like in-app purchases on an iphone.


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pokepin

[Pinhead!]

On Apr 19, 2:39 pm, PinballSales Jack <jerseyguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> Paper money is going soon......Coins are already gone.
>

This is true, I rarely carry cash anymore.

[roc-noc]

I am experienced. I saw Jimi live at Dane County stadium back when I
was in high school. I think it was 1969.

Amazing.

Tom


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roc-noc

[Ken]

On Apr 19, 11:59 am, "Kerry Imming" <kcimm...@pobox.com> wrote:
> FYI... saw the following press release today:http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jersey-jack-pinball-inc-and-dynamics...

>
> I know I'm just getting dumber, but I have no idea what a "Pinball
> Experience" is.  It says there will be a future announce explaining what
> ePlate(TM) payment device is.
>
> - Kerry

I believe, for me, a true 'pinball experience' involves Brian Kelly on
some level and beer.

With disorganized parts carts...

And sometimes electric seat warmers and the stories that follow...

Oh...and Mr. Sodapop at a pinball show!!! That's good too...

-Ken, CPL, Team-EM, Whoa Nellie, Galloping Ghost Arcade, etc...

[Jazman]

Garrett;1925940 Wrote:
> Jack eluded to this at MPE. The coin slot is outdated and he wants to
> make it easier for the operators to collect revenue. Makes sense.
>
> Common sense says use the smart phone technology.
>
> "Pinball...yeah, there's an app for that".

Yea, but that's not what this sounds like. The vending machines in our
office support payment via credit/debit card. This sounds more like
something else...

Jaz


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Jazman

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[snowdale]

Pinhead!;1926036 Wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2:39*pm, PinballSales Jack <jerseyguy... (AT) gmail (DOT)

> com> wrote:
> >>
> > Paper money is going soon......Coins are already gone.
> >
>
>
> This is true, I rarely carry cash anymore.

Yea but kids rarely carry plastic.


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snowdale

[rly...@carolina.rr.com]

It's a special credit card with buttons on it, so you can make
selections for what you want to pay for, or something to that effect.


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RLy...@carolina.rr.com

[ldnayman]

On Apr 19, 4:00 pm, snowdale <snowd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pinhead!;1926036 Wrote:
>
> > On Apr 19, 2:39*pm, PinballSales Jack <jerseyguy... (AT) gmail (DOT)
> > com> wrote:
>
> > > Paper money is going soon......Coins are already gone.
>
> > This is true, I rarely carry cash anymore.
>
> Yea but kids rarely carry plastic.

Kids also rarely play pinball. And when they do, they'll be with a
parent who does have plastic.

[Garrett]

Jazman;1926059 Wrote:
> Yea, but that's not what this sounds like. The vending machines in our
> office support payment via credit/debit card. This sounds more like
> something else...
>
> Jaz

Yeah. I posted before I read the link :eek:

Not what I was expecting. With so many apps now for smart phones I was
surprised they are going this route. So, I would have to aquire then use
a credit card with buttons on it (that really stock piles purchasing
data for the banks to sell to marketing firms) in an effort to win a
free pinball machine?

No thanks. When Jack talked about making it easier to put money into a
pinball/vending maching wasn't expecting this.

How many people have this new credit card and how many have smart phones
with payment apps? They could have still tied in a giveaway promotion
through smart payments. Just sayin'.


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Garrett

[rly...@carolina.rr.com]

This could just be 1 thing he's doing, he still may have other payment
options as well to announce.


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RLy...@carolina.rr.com

[rly...@carolina.rr.com]

Ok, I looked it up.

Basically, the eplate is a credit card with 2 buttons.

You download an ap onto your phone, which associates what you want the 2
buttons to represent.

So say you have a visa card that gives you frequent flyer miles, and
then you have a different visa that gives you 2% back or whatever.

You can download different 'experiences' onto your ap, and associate
whatever ones you want with the two buttons. Then when you go buy
lunch, you press either button 1 or button 2, to apply the points you
earn to whatever ap you have set up for button1 or button2.

(Personally, I don't use credit cards and loathe cash back/etc.
gimmicks, so this is all useless to me)

[pokepin]

RLy...@carolina.rr.com;1926087 Wrote:
> Ok, I looked it up.
>
> Basically, the eplate is a credit card with 2 buttons.
>
> You download an ap onto your phone, which associates what you want the 2
> buttons to represent.
>
> So say you have a visa card that gives you frequent flyer miles, and
> then you have a different visa that gives you 2% back or whatever.
>
> You can download different 'experiences' onto your ap, and associate
> whatever ones you want with the two buttons. Then when you go buy
> lunch, you press either button 1 or button 2, to apply the points you
> earn to whatever ap you have set up for button1 or button2.
>
> (Personally, I don't use credit cards and loathe cash back/etc.
> gimmicks, so this is all useless to me)

The means to pay for stuff on a pinball machine is one thing ('eplate',
plastic, etc). What you will be buying at a pinball machine is another.
With an LCD in that Oz game (plus an internet connection), the sky's the
limit. They could display different 'apps' on that screen like the
latest TVs. Or your card could identify you to realtime pinball
tournaments - want to join one? pony up $5 bucks off your device. How
about show a cartoon in the corner of the screen to amuse your little
ones, while you play a game? :)


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pokepin

[Wizardry]

Any apps/information/etc. added would have to be run by the license
holder and would have to fit with what they deem appropriate for the woz
universe (in this case). In addition, I see added fees for the few
operators out there :(

Until something like google wallet relly takes off I don't see this
going very far.


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Wizardry

[Pinballpark]

I disagree, Pinball machines should be in bars, many bars, especially in large cities don't take plastic, cash only. Cash is not gone, I never go bar hopping with plastic...

[EZ SLEEZE E]

Smart move! Take a cash business and make it a credit card business
with a paper trail! Vendors don't want to pay taxes on all the money.
FACT! It really doesn't matter. People have to want to play pinball.
They don't!

[CactusJack]

Its not just the Operators that don't want a paper trail. Many times, it
is the locations that don't want a paper trail.

Okay, I have rolled the coin. Here is your split, here is mine. See
you next week......

RB


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CactusJack

[MrBally]

Exactly why many cash only bars have two registers. One roll of
register tape goes into the shreader.

[PinballSales Jack]

On Apr 19, 4:28 pm, RLyo...@carolina.rr.com <rlyo...@carolina.rr.com>
wrote:

> This could just be 1 thing he's doing, he still may have other payment
> options as well to announce.
>
> --

> RLyo...@carolina.rr.com

> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com

Exactly

[PinballSales Jack]

On Apr 19, 8:06 pm, CactusJack <reinhar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Operators did not want a paper trail and resisted downloading
jukeboxes......until their competition bought into them. So a CD
jukebox makes $40 a week and a downloading box makes $500 - so it's
traceable......but their pool table is not. Pick if you want to be a
real business or be in the underground or out of business because your
competitor is honest and runs a real business.

This is here, it's happening. If locations want JJP games we will make
sure they find their way to locations through any and every method.

[John I]

Wow. I've never heard of a cash only bar. I go out downtown in Orlando
(not the tourist area) with the young guys I work with. NONE of them
carry cash. Seriously, five guys would have a hard time scraping up $20
cash between them on any given night. All of them make at least $80K a
year too. If we are hopping, one guy buys each round on his card. If
we are staying for a while, each opens a tab on their card.

Personally I think pinballs on location should have dollar bill readers
and credit card slots. Use a menu to choose how much to charge to the
card. Unfortunately it would have to be connected to the phone or
internet...

I use my credit card in vending machines for a soda, why not a pinball
machine?

John

Pinballpark;1926151 Wrote:
> I disagree, Pinball machines should be in bars, many bars, especially in
> large cities don't take plastic, cash only. Cash is not gone, I never go
> bar hopping with plastic...
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:39:24 PM UTC-5, PinballSales Jack wrote:

> > On Apr 19, 2:07*pm, "Mr. 68" <M... (AT) q (DOT) com> wrote:
> > > Cool. I haven’t had an experience since Hendrix.
> > >
> > > Kimhttp://www.WrongCrowdProductions.com/
> > > CARGPB #36
> >
> > Paper money is going soon......Coins are already gone.
> >
> > How else to get money into games - that's the future - not my idea -
> > just what is happening.
> >
> > Better idea - to deny there is change, progress or something
> > else....uhhhh....sorry, that was already done too.

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John I

[Big12bus]

Agree....Applaud you for looking at this. Just a tough sale adding in
a middle man.... Kinda sad....

Bill

[Nevus]

Starbucks has an iPhone app. Hold up phone, card swiped. No big deal. I like it and use it. They also take money and credit cards.

[Frank Furhter]

vid1900 wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/79ggqnp
>
>
> Just in case you were not getting enough big brother in your diet
> already...

Make it easy for a new generation to do business, and allow businesses
to scrap/worm/troll for data on buying, and what do you have? Perfect
environment for them to sell data to the governments which can't or
don't have the ability to do this themselves. All paid for with tax
dollars. Its like paying to have someone spy on you... Oh wait, it
isn't like it at all, that is exactly what it is.

[Kerry Imming]

"RLy...@carolina.rr.com" <rly...@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:RLyons1carolin...@rrgparchive.com...

>
> Ok, I looked it up.
>
> Basically, the eplate is a credit card with 2 buttons.
>
> You download an ap onto your phone, which associates what you want the 2
> buttons to represent.
>
> So say you have a visa card that gives you frequent flyer miles, and
> then you have a different visa that gives you 2% back or whatever.
>
> You can download different 'experiences' onto your ap, and associate
> whatever ones you want with the two buttons. Then when you go buy
> lunch, you press either button 1 or button 2, to apply the points you
> earn to whatever ap you have set up for button1 or button2.
>

Nice, clear description highlighting the user benefits. I like it.

Whoever wrote that first Dynamics, Inc. press release should read-and-learn
from your description. I read the official announcement twice and was left
with a "huh?". I was guessing that "ePlate" = credit card and "Experience"
= reward, but when you are unknown you can't start with your own vocabulary.
That is, it's your user base that gets to decide when you Google something
instead of Google search something. Who knows, maybe they'll be successful,
but the road to success is littered with things like Martinizing and Bing.

- Kerry

[EZ SLEEZE E]

The register doesn't matter. In the Bar business the IRS looks at how
much product you purchased. They know about how much cash flow you
should have from that a lone. In College I ran a bar for 3 years. I
don't know one owner that ever claimed pool tables or vending
revenue!! Pinball on location is a dead business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheKorn]

RLy...@carolina.rr.com <rly...@carolina.rr.com> wrote in
news:RLyons1carolin...@rrgparchive.com:

> It's a special credit card with buttons on it, so you can make
> selections for what you want to pay for, or something to that effect.

At this point I don't see the value of replacing one form of payment that nobody
uses (cash) with another form of payment that nobody uses (this non-credit card).

Now if they're talking about putting a mag stripe reader on a game, hell yeah! Or
talking about a micropayment system linked to a smart phone, hell yeah again!

...but this? I just don't get it.

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[stevenp]

Garrett;1925940 Wrote:
> Jack eluded to this at MPE. The coin slot is outdated and he wants to
> make it easier for the operators to collect revenue. Makes sense.

I'm pretty sure he actually 'alluded' to it. I doubt he was 'avoiding'
it. *sigh*


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stevenp

[stevenp]

TheKorn;1926394 Wrote:
> RLy...@carolina.rr.com <rlyons1 (AT) carolina.rr (DOT) com> wrote in
> news:RLyons1carolina.rr.com.5babjx (AT) rrgparchive (DOT) com:

>
> > It's a special credit card with buttons on it, so you can make
> > selections for what you want to pay for, or something to that effect.
>
> At this point I don't see the value of replacing one form of payment
> that nobody
> uses (cash) with another form of payment that nobody uses (this
> non-credit card).
>
> Now if they're talking about putting a mag stripe reader on a game, hell
> yeah! Or
> talking about a micropayment system linked to a smart phone, hell yeah
> again!
>

> ....but this? I just don't get it.

>
> --
> Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on
> the web or on
> DVD?
>
> http://www.webwidevideo.com/

The press release and lingo are confusing, but it *is* a branded credit
card. So it seems that there will be a mag stripe reader on the games. I
imagine you could pay with any credit/debit card as well, but using this
(effectively a JJP rewards card) gives you a chance to get merchandise
or win a WOZ.


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stevenp

[PinballSales Jack]

Pinball on location was a dead business.

Bar owners can buy booze by cash as in from a liquor store and even
pay retail and sales tax and still make a killing. Many of them do
just that.

Talk to Elaine Bennis about ! that

[AAPIN]

This means that there is a mag stripe reader - that how this card works as well. Functions on an existing infostructure and is an "enhancement".

[AAPIN]

On Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:38:14 PM UTC-7, Nevus wrote:
> Starbucks has an iPhone app. Hold up phone, card swiped. No big deal. I like it and use it. They also take money and credit cards.

By the way, that also there is a new scam attached to that as well. People taken a photograph of your barcode while it's being scanned at starbucks. Then the use this photo version to purchase their own drinks and it charges your account.

[MrBally]

Exactly Jack. Many a bar owner in the states surrounding Illinois
would go or have friends & family bring back booze when they took road
trips to visit there. Cash is king. I always thought a couple dozen
Fifths were considered "for reasonable, personal consumption". Just
like the North Carolina 299 cartons of cigarette rule.

[JoeJJC]

I've just become aware of the Dynamics card through JJ's FB newsfeed.
Landing page is very confusing about how it all works, except the part
where it costs $99. What's it all got to do with pinball? Not sure.
My suggestion: core business first; corporate alliances later.


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JoeJJC

[BUY...@aol.com]

It,s going to be along time before coins and bills are gone , why get
a 3rd party in your biz, and if its a cc your using who pays those
fees , when you start seeing cc reader on slots in casino , only then
would i worry about paper going away

[JoeJJC]

On Oct 26, 3:54*pm, JoeJJC <joej... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> I've just become aware of the Dynamics card through JJ's FB newsfeed.
> Landing page is very confusing about how it all works, except the part

> where it costs $99. *What's it all got to do with pinball? *Not sure.

> My suggestion: core business first; corporate alliances later.
>
> --
> Joe JJC

>

> It,s going to be along time before coins and bills are gone , why get
> a 3rd party in your biz, and if its a cc your using who pays those
> fees , when you start seeing cc reader on slots in casino , only then
> would i worry about paper going away

Casinos have an ulterior motive for having non-traditional cards;
they're paying you back in money, and they'd love you to spend any money
you make back into their machines. Pinball doesn't have such issues.
Maybe would have been more useful back in the day when an area had
numerous competing arcades. (like the boardwalks of old)

[joe mamma]

I won't pay $100 annual fee when I can get all the credit I want at $0
annual fee. I don't see what I can get for the $ c-note.

I must be confused.


Ck


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joe mamma