What are the proper shoe types & part ID's for Bally 3" flippers?

[swampwiz]

(NOTE: I had a similar post a few months back, but I didn't seem to get
any answers from that, and I just remembered that I need to get this
settled.)

Here I call the shoe the metal frame piece, upon which the plastic
flipper body is attached. I have:

Playboy
Strikes & Spares
Night Rider
Wizard

Of these I have 7 shoes that only have a single hole for the attachment,
whereas there is 1 that has an extra 3 holes. I am wondering if any of
these are supposed to have the holes or not. In any case, I want to
have all the machines have the same type of shoe, so I will need either
that one without the extra holes, or the one with the extra holes.

There seem to be a lot of these shoes being offered, but they are only
designated by the part #, so I will need the part # to get the right
one.

I suppose that if I have one pin with the shoes with the extra holes, I
should let that one be Strikes & Spares, as it is a fast machine to
being with.


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[John Robertson]

Reference appropriate parts catalogues:

Flipper Arm Assembly (shoe & shaft):

Playboy, Strikes & Spares, Night Rider: A-2747-11 (one hole, shaft has
reduced diameter section for securing screws)

Wizard: A-2747-8 (looks same as A-2747-11 in the 1976 Bally parts book).

There's ten minutes gone I'm not going to get back!

John :-#)#

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[swampwiz]

John Robertson;2076221 Wrote:
> Reference appropriate parts catalogues:
>
> Flipper Arm Assembly (shoe & shaft):
>
> Playboy, Strikes & Spares, Night Rider: A-2747-11 (one hole, shaft has
> reduced diameter section for securing screws)
>
> Wizard: A-2747-8 (looks same as A-2747-11 in the 1976 Bally parts
> book).
>
> There's ten minutes gone I'm not going to get back!
>
> John :-#)#

Thanks - that's exactly what I wanted. now all I need is a picture of
each of these parts to know what to ask for.

[CactusJack]

Here I have always been calling the plastic part the Shoe, and the metal
part the flipper foot and shaft. After all, you put a shoe on a foot.

When you say 3 holes, are you refering the ones that have really large
holes cut out along the length of the shoe? But only 1 small screw
sized hole?

I seem to recall seeing those way back when, like they were trying to
reduce the weight of the shoe to increase the speed of the flipper (less
mass). At least, that is how the black Gottlieb ones were made on the
later flipper assemblies.

As long as you have the one screw hole to mount the plastic cap, you
should be fine. No one would see the difference unless they removed the
cap. But, if it really bugs you, just order 2 of the same from the
supplier of your choice.

RB


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[swampwiz]

CactusJack;2076225 Wrote:
> When you say 3 holes, are you refering the ones that have really large
> holes cut out along the length of the shoe? But only 1 small screw
> sized hole?
>
> I seem to recall seeing those way back when, like they were trying to
> reduce the weight of the shoe to increase the speed of the flipper (less
> mass). At least, that is how the black Gottlieb ones were made on the
> later flipper assemblies.

Yes, there are 2 or 3 (I can't recall the exact number) large holes to
go along with the small hole that is used for the screw to attach the
plastic part to the metal part.

It would be interesting to find out which Bally's used the hole-y metal
part.


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swampwiz

[CactusJack]

Remember, Bally wasn't the only one making Bally parts back in the hey
day of pinball. Companies like Wico, and maybe Pen-Ray were making
replacement parts to sell since there were so many games out there
needing certain consumable parts. These replacements were often altered
is some way to make them different, but were basically, and functionally
the same.

You also had lots of overseas companies making games. Often, copies of
Bally, Williams, or Gottlieb titles (some licensed). You can bet they
were making copy parts and not buying them direct from B, W, or G.

RB


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CactusJack