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James Lewis

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:20:25 PM9/11/12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NltFZSKXa8

I just dont know what to think.


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homebrood

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:35:15 PM9/11/12
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The attract mode towards the end looks great. Gameplay with all those inserts lit all the time, that will have to change with programming I'm sure. Overall though I have to say looks great but gameplay I'm actually a bit nervous, will have to wait and see with programming how it will workout.

Tom

James Lewis

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:50:13 PM9/11/12
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Mine may stay in the box till I get to play another one. It would go a
long way toward a CC or the Avengers that is coming out.

It kindof reminds me of Twilight Zone which doesnt look very good at a
glance as far as gameplay but we know different. I dont like all the
inserts lit either.

Pinball Plus

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:53:49 PM9/11/12
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definately coming a long way!

Rare Hero

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:07:04 PM9/11/12
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:52:03 AM UTC-7, James Lewis wrote:
>I dont like all the inserts lit either.

James - no game in the history of pinball has ever had all the inserts lit at all times. The game isn't finished yet. You're seeing a work in progress. Do you really think Keith was like "oh hey, I'm the master of sweet light shows but nah for this game - I'll just make everything lit all the time" LOL ;)

Greg

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:18:46 PM9/11/12
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:07:04 PM UTC-4, Rare Hero wrote:
> James - no game in the history of pinball has ever had all the inserts lit at all times. Greg

You have obviously never experienced an Atari System 1 (Atarians, Airborne Avengers, Time 2000 etc.). They all had that symptom every so often. Until they were pulled off of the route!

James Lewis

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:19:59 PM9/11/12
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I agree, that isnt how it will be when finished. Just sayin it doesnt
look good as is. Im not panicing, again, yet. We will see what happens.


Ill come play yours though and see if I like it before I open mine.

homebrood

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Sep 11, 2012, 3:00:51 PM9/11/12
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Jack just released an update on FB that indeed there are many many elements that are not done yet, including additional screens that will show in gameplay, voice callouts that are not included yet, and programming for all the inserts and features is still far from done. That being said I think it's looking like we may have a great one once it's all done!

Tom

Tony (teekee)

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Sep 11, 2012, 3:26:35 PM9/11/12
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>
> I just dont know what to think.
>

I'm just very glad I waited. I see nothing as of yet that will make me want one. It might be a good family pin for the kids and the wife in a good size collection but other than that... eh. I hope new pinball in general doesn't go to that big honkin LCD. I miss the back glass! That big ass LCD does nothing for me but take away from the pinball experience. If I want to watch a movie I'll go fire up the DVD on my 60 inch! Yes, I realize Stern will go to LCD soon but I hope they keep it the size of a normal DMD or just a little bigger might be ok. The LCD is way to big...

I can see a plethora of HUO WoZ's for sale in the future.

Brighton Ive

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Sep 11, 2012, 3:52:26 PM9/11/12
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Agree about the backbox/screen ... I dont care what they are showing
on there I just HATE the look of the whole backbox.

I really don't see the point of releasing a half baked teaser vid like
that ....why is it playing so goddam SLOW, just looks DULL - does
nothing to sell the game to me , in fact I am less excited about it
than before.

Todd S.

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Sep 11, 2012, 5:56:29 PM9/11/12
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Still waiting for a video with everything working in it before
deciding to toss the towel in on the game. So far just not anything
to get excited about.

Todd S.

Mad Rush

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Sep 11, 2012, 6:24:24 PM9/11/12
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I for one think it looks great,I can't wait to see what will be on the
big screen , and the quotes already had me laughing.It is already Way
more of a game than I signed up for and I already have my $$$ set
aside for the next JJP !

PismoArcade

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Sep 11, 2012, 6:31:39 PM9/11/12
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Ooof.... So glad I trusted my instinct and waited. Gameplay is slow and
boring. The LCD is soooo annoying.

..and, no, I'm not a "hater". (code for anyone who has a differing
opinion).

Now I have the fun of deciding what I'll spend my WOZ money on.
Avengers? AC/DC?


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Kerry Richard

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Sep 11, 2012, 6:52:50 PM9/11/12
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I think it looks awesome!

I can't wait to see/play it at PPE in 11 days. Hopefully many of you
can be there too.

Kerry

pinnut

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Sep 11, 2012, 6:54:51 PM9/11/12
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always hard to tell from a video, but.. i like the spinning house,
and i like the flying monkey grabbing the ball. i like some of the
voice calls, and dislike some. i dont like the LCD or anything on it.
part of the charm of pinball is art. it should be pleasing to the eye
just sitting there. looks like there is no art unless its turned on,
and what i see on the screen i dont consider any kind of pinball art.
also could do without the ad for jersey jack pinball. i hope thats
only on the prototype, not on a game you'd have in your home.

Riggy

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Sep 11, 2012, 7:23:53 PM9/11/12
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:32:04 PM UTC-4, PismoArcade wrote:
> Ooof.... So glad I trusted my instinct and waited. Gameplay is slow and boring. The LCD is soooo annoying. ..and, no, I'm not a "hater". (code for anyone who has a differing opinion). Now I have the fun of deciding what I'll spend my WOZ money on. Avengers? AC/DC? -- PismoArcade This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com

Hater. ;)

Seroiusly though, it's funny how people say the game is boring when the modes/rules aren't even in the game yet.

kismetnumber1

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Sep 11, 2012, 7:37:54 PM9/11/12
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"Seroiusly though, it's funny how people say the game is boring when the modes/rules aren't even in the game yet."



Yeah - that's why you can't show status updates... most of these dim-wits don't have enough vision to recognize how far JJ's group has come in such a short time. When you sh!t out a game in three months - you end up with a Transformers. It's obvious the ammount of work that's being put into this and it's all starting to come together. But a progress video is just that. It's still a ways away from being finished - and that's a good thing. They aren't rushing to put it out and fix the problems later. With all of the toys and lighting effects and whatnot... it should really be an incredible experience when it's complete.

dannunz

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Sep 11, 2012, 7:54:58 PM9/11/12
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plus 1


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dragonberg

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Sep 11, 2012, 7:57:53 PM9/11/12
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I really enjoy these updates. Machine looks like its making good
progress.
I love the LCD!...but I'm a 3D animator;) If talented artists put work
into the LCD interactions I think it will grow on people. Whats really
important though is will new players like the LCD.
Hopefully the utilize the LCD for tutorial modes. With that big screen
you can clearly demonstrate to new players exactly how and where to
shoot the ball. Pinball's complexity is intimidating to new players.

ok for the next video....TURN THE PHONE LANDSCAPE ..please


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Howie

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Sep 11, 2012, 8:03:06 PM9/11/12
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There is a problem with status updates because many jump to
conclusions about something that is incomplete. However, it was much
worse when we had deposits with wayno for the remake of MM. There
were no updates and the anxiety created by the perceived and actual
lack of progress wasn't worth keeping my order in place. I got my
refund after a few months. I am happy that we are seeing progress on
WOZ, but I will wait to make any judgements until I get a chance to
play the game.

Howie

PapaJohn

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Sep 11, 2012, 8:10:05 PM9/11/12
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I for one am very glad that the older pins--1965 to 1980 are still
available along with quality parts to rebuild them. Gotta love the
REAL backglasses and the simple rules but challenging gameplay.

PismoArcade

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Sep 11, 2012, 8:13:19 PM9/11/12
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Well, I'm no Mensa, but I don't think it make me a "dim-wit" to see that
the game is slow, the backbox is atrocious, the music is monotonous, the
apron looks weird, etc. No amount of rules are going to change that.

I also find it funny that anyone that dare give their opinion on WOZ
are called names, labeled "haters" and accused of having an agenda.
Don't get me wrong, I know if I gave Jack an interest free loan a couple
of years ago, bought into his bravado while trashing Gary Stern, waited
past several promised deadlines, and finally saw this steaming pile, I
would also be defensive and angry. I really wanted WOZ to be great;
anything that gets pinball back into the mainstream is a good thing.

This ain't it.

Tim O

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Sep 11, 2012, 8:43:55 PM9/11/12
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Howie <hla...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Its a double edged sword. If he doesn't update, people say the game
isn't even being made. Show a work-in-progress, and people say it
sucks.

I think they're doing the right thing by showing the game. It looks
stunning, and there are obviously some really cool features, like the
flying monkey.

I'd second guess their choice of footage in the beginning where it
looks like a center ramp is being hit over and over and it looks like
the ball is either not making it up the ramp or just bouncing off
something and back down... It did make it up to the spinning house
from there once, but its hard to tell whats going on.

James Lewis

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Sep 11, 2012, 8:52:58 PM9/11/12
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Look closely and tell me if there is or isn't something blocking the
entrance to that ramp or whatever at the top that you have to hit a few
times till it drops and allows the ball to enter.


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yancy

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Sep 11, 2012, 9:14:50 PM9/11/12
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I have a name for pins that are overdone with colored LEDs, powdercoated
hardware, gaudy cosmetic mods, and an overall kitchen sink aesthetic.
This game epitomizes the term: candyland nightmare.

If you think the machine looks great, that's cool. And I'm happy to play
the game at your house. But I can't imagine ever having one in mine.


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yancy

Dan Q very much

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Sep 11, 2012, 10:04:51 PM9/11/12
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Sour grapes, anyone?

EZ E

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Sep 11, 2012, 10:10:52 PM9/11/12
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James you know what to do! Many have already jumped from the sinking
ship! Don't be like Rare Fool. Greg Colton!


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EZ E

yancy

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Sep 11, 2012, 10:40:46 PM9/11/12
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Dan Q very much;1994918 Wrote:
> Sour grapes, anyone?
I don't have any reason to be sour. Just posting my opinion that I find
the game cosmetically unattractive. To each his own, obviously.

I'm more than happy to give the game a chance in person when my friends
receive theirs. Any new pin is worth trying. I hope it's fun.

MrBally

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Sep 11, 2012, 11:03:01 PM9/11/12
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Remember, the main thing that matters to a machine with a coin/bill
acceptor/credit card reader; How much moolah it takes in on location.

I think it will do very well at bowling alleys (however many are left
as three more closed recently in the Detroit area) FEC's, non-
motorcycle bars, etc. The only question is will it have legs and earn
for a couple of years? Only time will tell as ops thought Pinball
2000 would rake it in and that did not happen.

Big12bus

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Sep 11, 2012, 11:06:41 PM9/11/12
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:22:03 PM UTC-5, James Lewis wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NltFZSKXa8
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> I just dont know what to think.
>
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> James Lewis
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Seems extremely clunky and over done. Time will tell; but I am glad I am out....now...

Bill

Bob

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Sep 11, 2012, 11:41:26 PM9/11/12
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I just finally watched the video.

My first impression is that the flippers seem underpowered to hit those upper shots. Game play does seem a bit slow. Why does the witch remind me of the file cabinet in X-files?

My second impression is the same one I had after I switched my CV to LEDs--"Holy crap that's bright" I can't play CV in the dark anymore because it fries my retinas. I do like the fact that you could change the colors of the targets after each set completion. 1st time through they're red. 2nd time through they're blue and so on. As long as they're not ON.ALL.THE.TIME. :)

My third impression is that everything looks built to take major abuse. I love the fact that you hardly see any wires or bulbs plastered all over the place. Those ramps look bad-ass strong. Are they powder-coated or dipped?

My fourth impression is that the LED is just a gimmick for now until the animations & stuff get worked in. I've seen videos of them but they're not incorporated into this video. Don't Tron me, make that score BIG.

I'll stop numbering now.

The music would drive me batshit crazy after a while but I understand it's not finished. I think Jack & the JJP team have some major stones releasing pre-production images & game play videos. They are opening themselves up and taking heat for stuff they've probably already finished. Win or lose I applaud their process.

I would say if you have a chance, go to PPE on the 22nd, play the game and then pass judgement. I wish I could go I'd camp out right in front of it. If you haven't played it, stop shitting on it just because. If you play it and it sucks then fire away.

Dan Q very much

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Sep 11, 2012, 11:56:33 PM9/11/12
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The expression is from the fable the fox and the grapes. I think it's
apropos.

You just keep telling yourself the possibly best looking game ever is
cosmetically unattractive.

yancy

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Sep 12, 2012, 12:02:00 AM9/12/12
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Dan Q very much;1994965 Wrote:
> You just keep telling yourself the possibly best looking game ever is
> cosmetically unattractive.
Believe it or not, it's a matter of opinion. Mine clearly differs from
yours. RGP would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything.

Ataritoday

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Sep 12, 2012, 12:21:05 AM9/12/12
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LEDs should be good for operators as they wont burn out nearly as often (I prefer the soft glow of normal bulbs, BUT, color changing i very cool).

I am assuming the audio still has a long way to go so no need to comment. I just would not underestimate the impact that the sound package has on our overall impressions of a game, it is critical but often overlooked.

Off topic, but I enjoy the Zen Pinball games on the IPAD and Xbox, but there sound really needs to change, it isn't dynamic at all... generally it just plays one track with a few call-outs that are not all that exciting. I know Zen is not real pinball. Ok, end off topics.

Anyhow, once we see modes, multi-balls, and a finished sound package, I think it will be great.

Also off topic, I saw the trailer for the OZ film that is coming. It looked cool.






Rare Hero

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:54:03 AM9/12/12
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On Sep 11, 7:12 pm, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> James you know what to do! Many have already jumped from the sinking
> ship! Don't be like Rare Fool. Greg Colton!

Oh, what's that Eric Hohler? You sure like saying my name, Eric
Hohler. What can I do for you, Eric Hohler? Eat a bag of dicks, Eric
Troller. :)

Greg

gaspumprob

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:55:39 AM9/12/12
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I watched the video several times tonight and honestly I feel like they
should have made us all wait and be suprised with the real final
product. This is tough. No offense but most of us here are Jack's
biggest nightmare.We are his hardest and pickiest customer's. He is
probably reading this and cursing us all out about now! We are the same
group that cut down pinball 2000 back in 1999!!!
For what it is worth I would have made the LCD display smaller too.
Their is just something about the game that I am not sure of yet. I
still feel that a different topic whould have made a better first game.
Something faster, original, and more out there perhaps. Maybe game two?
So if JJP was able to do this over again would they show us anything???
This is a interesting approch to marketing and have never seen it
before. I hope it works out because a lot of people are counting this
co. to suceed! One very positive note the game parts look strong as Jack
promised!
Rob


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BK2 HH PB BOPB FH JP WW and many more too many to list. Can't seem to
end this addiction LOL:D

EZ E

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Sep 12, 2012, 2:38:39 AM9/12/12
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Strange Rare Fool you don't like your name posted all over now? Greg
Colton major asshole and mental case felt the need to post my name at
will and thought that was cool. Own it bitch! The Family Guy Ass Clown
loves to snipe but doesn't like when his jack ass name is tagged to his
posts! Own it Mr Greg Colton Family Guy Jackass!


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EZ E

Rare Hero

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Sep 12, 2012, 3:24:11 AM9/12/12
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On Sep 11, 11:40 pm, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Strange Rare Fool you don't like your name posted all over now? Greg
> Colton major asshole and mental case felt the need to post my name at
> will and thought that was cool. Own it bitch! The Family Guy Ass Clown
> loves to snipe but doesn't like when his jack ass name is tagged to his
> posts! Own it Mr Greg Colton Family Guy Jackass!

Sorry, did I offend you, Eric Hohler? Eric Hohler, horrible human
being, massive hypocrite, mental midget, seller of shitty games,
eater of cock...you can't get under my skin. I've clearly gotten
under yours....oh, poor Eric Hohler, internet tough guy troll, has
feeelllings....waaaah. Ooooh, Eric Hohler, a fat, bald, old, shithead
who pretends he's a beauty queen - posing on his stack of shitty ACDC
LEs with cloudy windows that aren't worth shit now that the Premiums
have clear windows....ooooh, Eric Hohler, who still has the brain of a
3rd grade bully....keeps crying for attention because no one likes
him..boohoohoooo. Eric Hohler - a maniac that no one buying pinball
machines should ever do business with...if someone is thinking about
buying a game from Eric Hohler, they should be wary of all the jizz
stains coating their game as Eric Hohler slaps it to pictures of
little boys in the garage.

Your turn, Eric Hohler.

Greg

Rare Hero

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Sep 12, 2012, 3:26:01 AM9/12/12
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Oh, whoops, I spelled your name wrong...my humble apologies ...here it
is again so it's properly tagged ;)

Sorry, did I offend you, Erik Hohler? Erik Hohler, horrible human
being, massive hypocrite, mental midget, seller of shitty games,
eater of cock...you can't get under my skin. I've clearly gotten
under yours....oh, poor Erik Hohler, internet tough guy troll, has
feeelllings....waaaah. Ooooh, Erik Hohler, a fat, bald, old, shithead
who pretends he's a beauty queen - posing on his stack of shitty ACDC
LEs with cloudy windows that aren't worth shit now that the Premiums
have clear windows....ooooh, Erik Hohler, who still has the brain of a
3rd grade bully....keeps crying for attention because no one likes
him..boohoohoooo. Erik Hohler - a maniac that no one buying pinball
machines should ever do business with...if someone is thinking about
buying a game from Erik Hohler, they should be wary of all the jizz
stains coating their game as Erik Hohler slaps it to pictures of
little boys in the garage.

Your turn, Erik Hohler.

Greg

Tim O

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Sep 12, 2012, 5:45:40 AM9/12/12
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:52:58 -0400, James Lewis
<zr1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>Look closely and tell me if there is or isn't something blocking the
>entrance to that ramp or whatever at the top that you have to hit a few
>times till it drops and allows the ball to enter.

If thats the case, its kind of clumsy looking. Don't care for that at
all.

PinballCharlie

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Sep 12, 2012, 8:23:11 AM9/12/12
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> Eat a bag of dicks, Eric
> Troller. :)
>
> Greg

LOL! Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Beechwood

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:01:27 PM9/12/12
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It has come a long way... considering it is not finished I thought it
looked pretty good.

But the theme... it is just not for me.


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Joel
HIOP
"Hey, Its Only Pinball!!"

homebrood

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:18:33 PM9/12/12
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Hey, someone posted here recently that they played it when it was at E3 for over an hour and enjoyed it. With no programming at that point, if someone could actually keep interested for an hour, imagine when it's done how much better it will be.
If Jack is going to leave it on to play all day Saturday at PPE as he stated I don't think he's worried that people will think it's a dud. It's hard to say from that video that it's slow or what. You need to play a finished game to really tell.
I'm still in and am happy I am.

Tom

TheKorn

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:39:23 PM9/12/12
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Dan Q very much <dqu...@new.rr.com> wrote in news:988feb90-847d-467e-8fb4-
a32716...@ft6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 11, 8:16�pm, yancy <ya...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> I have a name for pins that are overdone with colored LEDs, powdercoated
>> hardware, gaudy cosmetic mods, and an overall kitchen sink aesthetic.
>> This game epitomizes the term: candyland nightmare.
>>
>> If you think the machine looks great, that's cool. And I'm happy to play
>> the game at your house. But I can't imagine ever having one in mine.
>>
> Sour grapes, anyone?

Sour grapes doesn't really apply to something that will be commonly available. (If
you want it, you will be able to buy it.) It does apply for something that has
restricted availability, such as BBB.

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TheKorn

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:42:47 PM9/12/12
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Rare Hero <rareh...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:3c15ae10-29df-4f0b-aa18-
33eb85...@m17g2000pby.googlegroups.com:

> Sorry, did I offend you, Erik Hohler? Erik Hohler, horrible human
> being, massive hypocrite, mental midget, seller of shitty games,
> eater of cock...you can't get under my skin. I've clearly gotten
> under yours....oh, poor Erik Hohler, internet tough guy troll, has
> feeelllings....waaaah. Ooooh, Erik Hohler, a fat, bald, old, shithead
> who pretends he's a beauty queen - posing on his stack of shitty ACDC
> LEs with cloudy windows that aren't worth shit now that the Premiums
> have clear windows....ooooh, Erik Hohler, who still has the brain of a
> 3rd grade bully....keeps crying for attention because no one likes
> him..boohoohoooo. Erik Hohler - a maniac that no one buying pinball
> machines should ever do business with...if someone is thinking about
> buying a game from Erik Hohler, they should be wary of all the jizz
> stains coating their game as Erik Hohler slaps it to pictures of
> little boys in the garage.

Oh for fuck's sake, would you two just get a hotel room and take turns hate fucking
each other already!??

TheKorn

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:44:54 PM9/12/12
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Beechwood <jzylst...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:Beechwoo...@rrgparchive.com:

> It has come a long way... considering it is not finished I thought it
> looked pretty good.
>
> But the theme... it is just not for me.

Yup. Looks interesting, but even more so after seeing the vids, WoZ is *not* *for*
*me*.

Max Pinball

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:50:23 PM9/12/12
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definitely not for me... LED screen in the vid looks unattractive and
expensive to replace on route machine... I wonder what the hour life
is of the LCD? 5 years?

pins4fun

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:52:04 PM9/12/12
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On Sep 11, 1:22 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NltFZSKXa8
>
> I just dont know what to think.
>
> --
> James Lewis
> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com

Throughout the planning and development of this game, Jack has kept in
touch with his customers on a daily basis, sometimes many times a day,
including the weekends. This is unprecented. Jack's customers ask
for updates, Jack does what he can to accomodate them, as often as he
can, while trying not to jeopardize his and his customers present and
future best interests in the process.

Clearly, this video shows a game at a particular stage of its
develoment, one that's not necessarily anywhere where the game may
stand as far as the game's actual level of completion's is concerned
at this time. Please take it for what it is, and withhold detrimental
judgement until/if such is ever warranted.

What I see in this video now is a very high quality machine with a
great appeal to my sensory perception, and one that tantalizes my
imagination until I get my hands on it for a one-on-one soon.

Beechwood

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:54:44 PM9/12/12
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Not sure about their LCD, but my monitor here at my business is on 12
hours a day 6 days a week for surveillance. Its about 4 years and still
going strong.

pins4fun

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Sep 12, 2012, 1:56:17 PM9/12/12
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change 'unprecented' to 'unprecedented', lol

Rare Hero

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Sep 12, 2012, 2:38:10 PM9/12/12
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On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:42:48 AM UTC-7, The...@TheKorn.net wrote:
> Oh for fuck's sake, would you two just get a hotel room and take turns hate fucking
>
> each other already!??

Only if you're there to film it, Korn! :)

Greg

Scylla

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Sep 12, 2012, 5:13:05 PM9/12/12
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Korn, this post made me laugh on a different hemisphere! Funny. And they're both good guys, of course. Later......

Scylla

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Sep 12, 2012, 5:17:37 PM9/12/12
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Wait, I thought this was the Yancy v Dan Q post! Rare Here's a good guy -- the other guy I don't know but posts are obnoxious.

Tess

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Sep 12, 2012, 5:42:41 PM9/12/12
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Nice to see one of the rgp slimebags get some kharmic payback.

James Lewis

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Sep 12, 2012, 6:06:41 PM9/12/12
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I see the drop target. Is that not the entrance to the ramp?

Terrapin Mark

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Sep 12, 2012, 7:44:12 PM9/12/12
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On Sep 12, 1:42 pm, TheKorn <TheK...@TheKorn.Net> wrote:

> Oh for fuck's sake, would you two just get a hotel room and take turns hate fucking
> each other already!??

...Maybe! But it is funny :)

Pinboy-Archive

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Sep 12, 2012, 8:34:31 PM9/12/12
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It's gettin' there ;)


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EZ E

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Greg can't help himself he always reverts back to what's on his mind,
gay man love! The whole gay man love thing just strange. Greg Colton
keeps posting about his gay tendencies why?? This time he added the
pinball twist! Sick-O! Get some help! I've been saying for years that
Greg Colton is a homo with a ball gag in his mouth without a doubt. I
want nothing to with him in a hotel room. Sounds a lot like gay porn to
a straight guy. I'd end up in jail for "gay bashing" when I was only
trying to defend myself from a man with ass less chaps, ball gag and
video camera! Why would I go into a hotel room with a known gay guy? I
don't dig balls to my face like you do!


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Terrapin Mark

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Sep 13, 2012, 12:37:35 AM9/13/12
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Rare Hero

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Wow, what vivid gay fantasies you have, Erik Hohler! Perhaps you'll
want a WOZ after all....it will complete your Judy Garland shrine
room.

Oh, it's that wacky Erik Hohler again... the guy who confessed on RGP
that he puts his dick in the dirt. Why would Erik Hohler put his dick
in the dirt? Why would Erik Hohler possibly want to put his dick in
something brown and dirty....hmmmm....

Your turn Corn Hohler! This is fun. I'm not ashamed of my name or my
career...however, your fun trolly activities only serve to scare
people away from ever doing business with you...but hey, keep it
up...embarrass the Hohler family...you think your kids don't know how
to browse the internet? One day they'll see what their demented ol'
dad was up to and be downright frightened of you....I see restraining
orders in your future. I feel sorry for those Babycorn Hohlers. Do
them a favor and take a nosedive into the Grand Canyon. Bless the
children!

Greg Colton aka Erik Hohler's Favorite Person Of All Time Ever!

Tim O

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Sep 13, 2012, 5:23:19 AM9/13/12
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If this argument was over religion, world peace or the economy, it'd
be absurd. Since its over a pinball machine, it totally makes sense.

EZ E

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I don't hate anyone, you'd have to care. Greg Colton needs to own the
fact he can't pick a pinball machine! WOZ and Avatard just suck! They're
bottom of the pack! No matter what Keith's record is, WOZ is nothing
more than a "C" game. Just like TSPP! It's never going to be a keeper!

Rare Hero

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On Sep 13, 8:28 am, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't hate anyone, you'd have to care. Greg Colton needs to own the
> fact he can't pick a pinball machine! WOZ and Avatard just suck!

Oh, good morning Dick Hohler! All trolling aside, take a look at our
collection list on Pinside. We pretty much have the same games,
dude....lol. I just ordered an AC/DC...are we best friends now, Erik
Hohler!?? Can we put our dicks in the dirt together, Cock Hohler!?
Oh, btw...its has a clear window...I think anyone who might ever buy
an AC/DC LE from Erik Hohler's flip-stash should know that it's got a
hazy cloudy window....so - instead of buying an AC/DC from Erik
Hohler's business (AKA home AKA place where a wife and children weep
all day long), but a new Premium from a reputable distributor.

>They're bottom of the pack!

You're the only bottom around here, Ass Hohler! Buuuuut
seriously...it's pinball brothah. It's a game. It's not a dick
measuring contest. You clearly aren't packin' and need to use pinball
to brag and impress....but no one's impressed. "Oh, you have a bunch
of wooden boxes in your house! None of them happen to say Avatar on
them!!! You're so cool!" <---Comment that never happens.

>No matter what Keith's record is, WOZ is nothing
> more than a "C" game. Just like TSPP! It's never going to be a keeper!

10,000 TSPPs in homes and on location prove you wrong.

Greg Colton - the object of Erik Hohler's desires. Sorry, Mrs.
Hohler... he just keeps coming back for more!!!!

pins4fun

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Sep 13, 2012, 12:41:23 PM9/13/12
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On Sep 13, 11:28 am, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>No matter what Keith's record is, WOZ is nothing
> more than a "C" game. Just like TSPP! It's never going to be a keeper!
>
> --
> EZ E
> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com

Let's forget about WOZ for a minute, TSPP is a "C" game? You can't
possibly be serious!

Terrapin Mark

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Sep 13, 2012, 12:52:27 PM9/13/12
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TSPP is not for everyone. I think it is an A title with a great deep
ruleset. But that is only my opinion. If people think it is a C title
that is their opinion and I won't debate opinions. It certainly isn't
priced like a C title though :)

ldnayman

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Sep 13, 2012, 1:08:06 PM9/13/12
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Damn G...I haven't seen you this fired up since the Purplenurple days.

Speaking of which...where is that fucktard? You'd think he'd be all
over Decison '12.

stevenp

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TheKorn;1995108 Wrote:
> Dan Q very much <dquella (AT) new.rr (DOT) com> wrote in
> news:988feb90-847d-467e-8fb4-
> a32716e88c1c (AT) ft6g2000vbb.googlegroups (DOT) com:
>
> > On Sep 11, 8:16*pm, yancy <ya... (AT) ameritech (DOT) net> wrote:
> >> I have a name for pins that are overdone with colored LEDs,
> powdercoated
> >> hardware, gaudy cosmetic mods, and an overall kitchen sink
> aesthetic.
> >> This game epitomizes the term: candyland nightmare.
> >>
> >> If you think the machine looks great, that's cool. And I'm happy to
> play
> >> the game at your house. But I can't imagine ever having one in mine.
> >>
> > Sour grapes, anyone?
>
> Sour grapes doesn't really apply to something that will be commonly
> available. (If
> you want it, you will be able to buy it.) It does apply for something
> that has
> restricted availability, such as BBB.
>

Yeah, but it appears EZ's hatred started when he bailed on the WOZ LE
quite a while back and realized he can't pimp profits off it like he can
with the cookie-cutter Stern releases. Thus the venting and sour grapes
for his lack of a special deal.


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Rare Hero

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Sep 13, 2012, 3:43:01 PM9/13/12
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stevenp;1995524 Wrote:
> Yeah, but it appears EZ's hatred started when he bailed on the WOZ LE
> quite a while back and realized he can't pimp profits off it like he can
> with the cookie-cutter Stern releases. Thus the venting and sour grapes
> for his lack of a special deal.

He really loves it though...

Filename:-----------> EZ_WOZZIE.jpg
Link to attached PIC: http://rgparchive.com/rgpforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1580


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PinballSTAR Amusements

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Sep 13, 2012, 4:59:13 PM9/13/12
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Awesome

Terrapin Mark

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On Sep 13, 3:44 pm, Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>He really loves it though...

> Filename:-----------> EZ_WOZZIE.jpg

http://rgparchive.com/rgpforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1580

> Rare Hero

Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO


seymour.shabow

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Sep 13, 2012, 5:32:17 PM9/13/12
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No sir, I don't like it.

barnhart_pinball

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Sep 13, 2012, 6:59:42 PM9/13/12
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James Lewis <zr1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:James.Lew...@rrgparchive.com:

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NltFZSKXa8
>
> I just dont know what to think.
>
>

It looks great, some neat ideas (the spinning house track). Very pretty.

The only crack I have on it - is it "talks" WAY too much. After watching
the video, I think it would drive me crazy. Watching it, I got to the point
of thinking, does it ever shut up?

My opinion
Mitch :)

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"That deaf dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball"

John I

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Sep 13, 2012, 8:37:47 PM9/13/12
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Yeah, I am not big on TSPP either. I love Keith's work on LOTR and WPT.
I love the Simpsons theme too. I have played hundreds of games on
dozens of TSPPs over the years including tweaked out HUO examples and I
just can't get into this game. It also has the most annoying, tinny
soundtrack I can think of on any pin.

Overall, not a bad game, but not in my top ten Sterns either.

John





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TheKorn

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John I <zeec...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:John.I...@rrgparchive.com:

> Terrapin Mark;1995502 Wrote:
>> TSPP is not for everyone. I think it is an A title with a great deep
>> ruleset. But that is only my opinion. If people think it is a C title
>> that is their opinion and I won't debate opinions. It certainly isn't
>> priced like a C title though :)
>
> Yeah, I am not big on TSPP either. I love Keith's work on LOTR and WPT.
> I love the Simpsons theme too. I have played hundreds of games on
> dozens of TSPPs over the years including tweaked out HUO examples and I
> just can't get into this game. It also has the most annoying, tinny
> soundtrack I can think of on any pin.

Yeah I'm with you there. My beef with TSPP is the game never shuts the hell up.
Seems like every single damn switch hit triggers a voice call. The demo WoZ reel
was like that, and hopefully Keith changes that sooner rather than later. It makes
the game feel very *un*special when everything triggers a quip.

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EZ E

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Simpson's is point blank a C+ at best title, the price point proves it.
It lags pricewise for years! It's way above the average players head!
People don't even know what you're talking about when you bring up the
reverse flipper mode! The shots are dudes and dead ends for most part
and don't hold you. That game still has the clunky Stern feel and isn't
a keeper. At the current rate I'll have sold more WOZ's then ACDC's! JJP
better give me number 1000 and a shirt! May have ANOTHER one for sale!
Greg Colton I know being gay is "normal" for you but really you now have
pictures of me? Most will agree it's just GAY! We just googled you and I
saw the red ball gag photo! Dude get your ass in the GYM! You're fucking
FAT! Now I know why you're on the computer all the time! You're a FAT
Carrot Top and I can see why you like COCK! Chick without dicks don't
dig the red head thing! LOOSER! Take pictures of the Porsche 911 next
time, that's more entertaining!


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EZ E

Rare Hero

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Sep 13, 2012, 11:36:52 PM9/13/12
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On Sep 13, 7:46 pm, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Simpson's is point blank a C+ at best title, the price point proves it.
> It lags pricewise for years!

Price price price price price price. Try playing pinball, it's fun.

> It's way above the average players head!

So, you admit it!!! You're too retarded for TSPP! You look a little
Down's Syndromey, laying on those AC/DC boxes.

> The shots are dudes and dead ends for most part
> and don't hold you.

Um....the shots are dudes...and don't hold you? ****cough cough GAY
cough cough****

>That game still has the clunky Stern feel and isn't
> a keeper.

....if your'e too retarded to understand it, Corky Hohler.

>At the current rate I'll have sold more WOZ's then ACDC's!

You mean those defective AC/DC's with cloudy windows!?!? No one
should ever buy Erik Hohler's AD/DC's!

> Greg Colton I know being gay is "normal" for you but really you now have
> pictures of me? Most will agree it's just GAY!

I didn't take the pictures...but, if you think the picture of you on
the AC/DC boxes is gay, I won't argue.

>We just googled you and I
> saw the red ball gag photo!

Yeah? Oh, you're lying...but yeah, I've still got a picture of your
Goonie's Sloth-lookin' ass laying on AC/DC boxes. :)

>Dude get your ass in the GYM! You're fucking
> FAT!

Why, thank you for your concern....I wish I had this great pep talk
about my health a few years ago when those pics were taken! I'm down
30 lbs now, but thank you so much...so glad you care so much about
me. :) I hope you've lost weight since your AC/DC box beautyshot.

>Now I know why you're on the computer all the time! You're a FAT
> Carrot Top and I can see why you like COCK!

Wow...it's like 3rd grade all over again. Your kids must be so
ashamed of you...having a horrible bully for a dad...you probably pick
on them and laugh. I'm sure they're just counting the days till you
keel over...I can just imagine the huge smile on their little faces.
They'll be free, and their poor mom will no longer be abused by the
sperm donor who shall no longer be named.

>Chick without dicks don't dig the red head thing!

...and you would know cuz....you have amazing insight into the female
mind? You barely have a coherent though in your bald, ape-like
skull. I'll ask the chick I'm fucking how she feels about redheads
and get back to you pronto! ;)

> LOOSER!

Illiterate. Don't take spelling lessons from Spider-Man
pinball....this is what happens.

>Take pictures of the Porsche 911 next
> time, that's more entertaining!

It's your picture, dude...lol....and no one's impressed by your car.
An asshole can have a nice car....that doesn't make them less of an
asshole, Ass Hohler.

Till next time, baby!

Greg

Terrapin Mark

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Holy Shit! This is some great stuff.

Mark

EZ E

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Sep 14, 2012, 12:53:24 AM9/14/12
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So it kills you I've been selling that shitty WOZ doesn't it! I care
more about my farts than what you post. No one cares if you hate Stern,
no one cares if I think WOZ blows! That's other than you! I've sold both
and no ones cares either way! You're so emotional attached you sit
around all worked up. "I gotta get him!" "Newman!" One month Stern is
the best game ever made (Avatard), now Keith and JJP are the second
coming! It actually kills you WOZ is circling the bowl as we speak! It's
another TSPP with LED's/LCD! At best "C" title game! The smart money is
cashing OUT!

Family Guy gig finally dry up? You're like the guys on the street in
Vegas handing out "free porn!" But your handing out "Why WOZ isn't
finished and what you see isn't what your looking out!" If it's brown,
stinks and you can see peanuts I'd bet it's WOZLE!

BTW the whole laying on the pinball machines is a joke! You've never
figured that out! Remember the ebay guy that has chicks on his machine!
I forgot you don't dig the "Pink". Sorry! You don't know what I'm
talking about! I just didn't know I'd have a "gay fan club" like you
beating off to my photo!

Haven't you noticed I don't read your posts? You read all mine! That's
the best joke of all!

Anyone looking for a BIB LE or WOZLE drop me a line. $50 off the game if
in the email header you post Greg Colton "Alternate Family Guy" finally
comes out of the closet!

EZ E

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Strange your still in your mid 30's and not married? I thought they had
same sex marriage where you live!
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Rare Hero

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Sep 14, 2012, 1:13:22 AM9/14/12
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On Sep 13, 9:54 pm, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So it kills you I've been selling that shitty WOZ doesn't it!

No, not really.

>I care
> more about my farts than what you post.

Sweet.

> No one cares if you hate Stern,

How do you figure that? I just bought an AC/DC Premium: Clear Window
Edition...I just finished playing My X-Men Magneto.

> no one cares if I think WOZ blows! That's other than you! I've sold both
> and no ones cares either way!

You still don't get it. It has nothing to do with money/transactions/
status. You're just a miserable, mean, ignorant, arrogant, vile piece
of shit. :)

> You're so emotional attached you sit
> around all worked up. "I gotta get him!" "Newman!"

Not really. I'm having fun. Stop projecting. You got so worked up
about my airplane explosion post on Pinside you had to come to RGP to
cry about it. It's kind of cute that you have feelings....but you're
undeserving of empathy.

>One month Stern is
> the best game ever made (Avatard), now Keith and JJP are the second
> coming!

Nah, I like all pinball. More projection. You're all about "VS" and
"teams" with this thing. Wow, not only are you ugly and mentally
challenged, you now have Alzheimer's. I'll remind you. You went
apeshit anti-Stern for quite some time....you were all over Jack's
balls....then you flipped with AC/DC, lept over to swing off of Gary's
sack and kicked dirt in Jack's face (after you pulled your dick out of
the dirt)

> It actually kills you WOZ is circling the bowl as we speak!

Not really.

> It's
> another TSPP with LED's/LCD!

That would be amazing, actually.

> At best "C" title game!

Says who? Everyone likes different games, sorry. If "C Level" means
"Highest selling Stern game ever" then I wish Stern the best of lucky
with nothing but "C" games from now on!!!

>The smart money is cashing OUT!

I buy games to play. You should try it some time.

> Family Guy gig finally dry up?

Geeze, I wish...I'd have more time to play pinball. :)

>You're like the guys on the street in
> Vegas handing out "free porn!"

Ha? Ha? *shrug*

>But your handing out "Why WOZ isn't
> finished and what you see isn't what your looking out!" If it's brown,
> stinks and you can see peanuts I'd bet it's WOZLE!

I think your brain broke on this one trying to say something complex.

> BTW the whole laying on the pinball machines is a joke!

I know, it's HILARIOUS!!! You look like such a fucking lunatic, it
makes me laugh every time!

> You've never
> figured that out! Remember the ebay guy that has chicks on his machine!

Aw, no one ever told you you were pretty when you put on your mommy's
dresses, awww awww awwwww

> I forgot you don't dig the "Pink".

LOL...keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, while
you sulk into the bedroom each nite and your wife's legs slam shut
like a vice.

>Sorry! You don't know what I'm
> talking about! I just didn't know I'd have a "gay fan club" like you
> beating off to my photo!

That's the most action you're likely to see in the rest of your
miserable life.

> Haven't you noticed I don't read your posts?

Oh yeah? You just ACCIDENTALLY respond to everything I write with
SPECIFIC references to the conversation? Yous talented!

>You read all mine!

Yeah, well...see that's how this whole newsgroup thing works. You
read, you write. It's uh....yeah , it's pretty simple.

> Anyone looking for a BIB LE or WOZLE drop me a line. $50 off the game if
> in the email header you post Greg Colton "Alternate Family Guy" finally
> comes out of the closet!

$50 off of what, $10k?!? LOL. I would like to remind everyone, never
buy a game from Erik Hohler! All his AC/DC's are defective with
cloudy windows. He's not an authorized Stern distributor, and once
you open your defective game, you're out of luck!

Rare Hero

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Sep 14, 2012, 1:17:14 AM9/14/12
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Alrighty, Cornhohler....this one's for you...

You'll actually probably like it :)

ENJOY!

Filename:-----------> EZ_Shower.jpg
Link to attached PIC: http://rgparchive.com/rgpforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1582


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xbloodgreenx

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Rare Hero;1995802 Wrote:
PWNED!


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Terrapin Mark

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Sep 14, 2012, 1:22:29 AM9/14/12
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On Sep 14, 1:18 am, Rare Hero <rarehero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Alrighty, Cornhohler....this one's for you...
>
> You'll actually probably like it :)

Hopefully its toxic.

What an ASSHAT!

Mr.Do!

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Sep 14, 2012, 1:23:53 AM9/14/12
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I'm just happy to see that "Clock Million" is still between the ramps -- we're it belongs!

Rare Hero

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Sep 14, 2012, 1:24:06 AM9/14/12
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On Sep 13, 10:06 pm, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Strange your still in your mid 30's and not married? I thought they had
> same sex marriage where you live!

Really, that's strange!? Not all of us knocked up our cousins at 18
and had to "do the right thing". Plenty of people are married/
divorced in their 30's. Some people stay in miserable marriages for
the sake of the kids....your wife is a saint.

Strange you're in your 40s and don't know the difference between
"your" and "you're"

Today's lesson:
Not married doesn't = gay.
Not married = having fun with the girls you can't touch!

Keep those legs clamped, Mrs. Hohler! He'll have a heart attack or
crash a plane soon and you'll be free!

:)

Greg

stubby

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Hi Greg, just wanted to say I enjoy your posts thanks for the laughs


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Rompen

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Sep 15, 2012, 1:04:44 AM9/15/12
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On Sep 13, 9:46 pm, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Simpson's is point blank a C+ at best title

Well, that establishes your credibility.

EZ E

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Sep 15, 2012, 2:39:16 AM9/15/12
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So your Career is over? You selling alternate Life style items door to
door? Your self important posts go no where but make you look more and
more unstable! When you post it gives great insight into YOUR sad life
and how you see yourself! Looks as you've been beaten, socialization
issues and have major family problems. That's a common issue with people
that go Homo, that's a fact. You display classic "unstable family life"
syndrome, your looking for your fathers approval so you end up blowing
guys and sticking odd items in your rear end! If you don't get help
we'll end up reading about how you ate a 12 gauge round! Clearly it's
building up and you better get help! It sure looks like Greg Colton is
off his "Meds" and on the edge again! Sad little man! When I say little
I'm referring to your mind, we all know your FAT and red headed! That's
a bitch!

Bronto

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Sep 15, 2012, 2:58:52 AM9/15/12
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Sigh. Such narrow minded bigotry. :(


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Rare Hero

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Sep 15, 2012, 4:32:34 AM9/15/12
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Yeah, there's barely a coherent thought on display here...I think
you're trying to be funny, but you're just digging yourself into a
deeper hole, Hohler.

Let's hope Mrs. Hohler and the Lil' A Hohlers can get on with their
lives with lots of therapy. What a shame that they had to be saddled
with such an abusive and embarrassing mongoloid for a father. Since
those defective AC/DCs will clearly lose money, they'll probably all
have to turn to a life of prostitution to pay off your debts. Oh
well, probably the only benefit to having the name "Hohler" ...it
really is the perfect name for a woman of the night.

In any case - due to your insane rantings here - the courts have
plenty of evidence that you're an unstable, cruel, drunken maniac. I
know you'll enjoy the prisonrape, Corn Hohler...perhaps you're doing
this all on purpose.

Get used to the taste of dirty prison cock, buddy! I'll toss your
wife a few bucks and give her a pity fuck....ya know, for the
children. That's the kind of nice guy I am.

(You can end this at any time....all you gotta do is stop being a
dick. Is it possible? Let's find out)
Greg

Scylla

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Sep 15, 2012, 7:24:16 AM9/15/12
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Greg, you're one of the RGPers and Pinsiders I enjoy and categorize as one of the good guys. But I do think in this zealous war of words you've lost sight of good taste when throwing slurs about mentally challenged people and those with Downs. I dont have loved ones with such challenges but know that if I did, these words would gravely disappoint me. You are better than this and I certainly understand it's easy to be dragged somewhere that is not your true natural state. Perhaps it is time to simply ignore this guy. He's not worth compromising who you are. Please take this in the spirit in which it is intended -- a well intentioned, constructive tug at your elbow. Peace in pinball, my friend.

jackofdiamonds

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Sep 15, 2012, 7:53:09 AM9/15/12
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this whole exchange is why Pinside is such a better place for
discussions about pinball related topics.I'm on my way over there now to
get my morning blog on.Have a great weekend everybody.Scott


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KY-pin

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Sep 15, 2012, 7:59:45 AM9/15/12
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i remember one time i was picking up a pinball machine from a guy
about 12 hours away in another state, we both had large collections
and were discussing about all the strange people we have met picking
up pins. i made the comment about how it was nice to meet someone
completely sane for a change. he said something to the effect of,
there is no one in this hobby that is completely sane, deep down there
is something that isn't quite right.
i was kind of offended, but as time passes the more i believe what he
said is 100% true.
-chris

Terrapin Mark

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Sep 15, 2012, 8:24:02 AM9/15/12
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On Sep 15, 2:40 am, EZ E <erik.hoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
< Looks as you've been beaten, socialization
> issues and have major family problems. That's a common issue with people
> that go Homo, that's a fact. You display classic "unstable family life"
> syndrome, your looking for your fathers approval so you end up blowing
> guys and sticking odd items in your rear end!


Wow! Sad day on RGP!!

MSS

homebrood

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Sep 15, 2012, 9:41:37 AM9/15/12
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On Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:24:17 AM UTC-5, Scylla wrote:
> Greg, you're one of the RGPers and Pinsiders I enjoy and categorize as one of the good guys. But I do think in this zealous war of words you've lost sight of good taste when throwing slurs about mentally challenged people and those with Downs. I dont have loved ones with such challenges but know that if I did, these words would gravely disappoint me. You are better than this and I certainly understand it's easy to be dragged somewhere that is not your true natural state. Perhaps it is time to simply ignore this guy. He's not worth compromising who you are. Please take this in the spirit in which it is intended -- a well intentioned, constructive tug at your elbow. Peace in pinball, my friend.

Well I have no horse in this race but if you're trying to say Greg is above insulting challenged people, or that he should have better taste than this, I think you missed some-ting. Have you ever watched that awful, tasteless, horrific garbage show he directs called Family Guy? Don't get me wrong I think it can be just hilarious, and for the most part I like watching that show from time to time but sometimes I just have to turn it off because it gets so offensive. Usually those parts are just terrible awful things about just the type of people you were defending. I think Greg's posts for the most part here are constructive and about pinball, but if you expect good taste from the director of Family Guy, that's kind of silly. Maybe you haven't actually seen the show?

Tom

Rare Hero

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Sep 15, 2012, 12:28:30 PM9/15/12
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Hey guys....I'm not insulting mentally challenged people. I actually
have compassion and empathy for people and their plights. I was
merely insulting Erik Hohler, who I probably don't have to tell you,
is a bully. I don't really define myself by my dayjob, but hey - I do
enjoy dark/dirty humor. :) Has this little tit for tat gone too
far? Absolutely. I love pinball and the pinball community. 99.9% of
the people I've met, played games with, bought games from, sold games
to - have been excellent and super nice people. It's just a real
shame that we have this guy in his mid 40's who still acts like a 3rd
grade school yard bully. You'd think a man with children would have
some empathy and well...have grown up! In any case....yeah, this
thing has probably run its course....what else can be really be said
to give the pinball world a glance into the miserable and vile life of
Erik Hohler. I suppose if he would like to continue this, I'll just
keep my lip zipped but perhaps have "fun with Photoshop" to entertain
you guys. :)

Peace and Love!
Greg

TheKorn

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Sep 15, 2012, 12:52:18 PM9/15/12
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jackofdiamonds <jackofd...@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:jackofdiam...@rrgparchive.com:

> this whole exchange is why Pinside is such a better place for
> discussions about pinball related topics.I'm on my way over there now to
> get my morning blog on.Have a great weekend everybody.Scott

Hate to break it to you, but there are just as many assholes (more, I'd venture)
than RGP. The only difference is the somewhat artifical limit on the actual verbage
used.

Every time I give pinside a chance, I am quickly reminded of this and stop bothering
again. It's uncanny; on RGP if someone thinks you're an asshole they're free to say
they think you're an asshole. On pinside, they'll just be snarky and two-faced
about it. I'd rather have people be straight ahead with me than hide it under false
plattitudes.

Pacpin

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Sep 15, 2012, 1:31:18 PM9/15/12
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TheKorn;1996302 Wrote:
> jackofdiamonds <jackofdiamonds (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote in
> news:jackofdiamonds.5ixm3z (AT) rrgparchive (DOT) com:
Whenever anyone gets butthurt on RGP, they say they are going to
Pinside, whenever anyone gets butthurt on Pinside, they tell everyone
they are going to RGP. Drama queens, nothing more. If they really felt
that way, they'd just go and not feel the need to make some big
announcement about it.

No different than some fat trashy lady yelling at Wal-Mart how she's
going to start shopping at Kmart because Wal-Mart wouldn't give her a
refund on something. Then 2 days later, she's back in Wal-Mart again.


--
Pacpin

chuck

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Sep 15, 2012, 1:35:56 PM9/15/12
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On Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:54:03 AM UTC-4, jackofdiamonds wrote:
> this whole exchange is why Pinside is such a better place for
>
> discussions about pinball related topics.I'm on my way over there now to
>
> get my morning blog on.Have a great weekend everybody.Scott

Pinside has just as much garbage about JJP vs Stern as RGP does. The ONLY difference is arguments can degrade down to third grade name calling and really nasty comments by antoganoists on RGP. No moderation is true freedom which includes good and bad. As far as I can tell pinside doesn't swing the moderate hammer for no good reason so it's slightly more civil. Same signal to noise ratio though.
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