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PinFlipper

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:15:39 PM11/18/09
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whats a route version and huo version going for now? the only cc price
wise i see is on ebay at 8k...thanks

Captain Neo

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:25:32 PM11/18/09
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route versions i've seen recently for around 4500-5500. HUO, who
knows. They have dropped out of the 8k range tho for nice ones. Down
in the 6k range.

PinFlipper

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:33:47 PM11/18/09
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anyone else seen prices?

teekee

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:26:43 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 7:25 pm, Captain Neo <nwoj...@hotmail.com> wrote:

$4500 for a CC? Was it working? Did you have to pull it out of the
dumpster yourself or did someone help?

A working CC will rarely be seen under 6k and an HUO will still bring
around 8k plus. If anyone has a working CC out there for under 5K
please email! If you have an HUO one for around 6K, please email!

Julie Grenuk

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:28:46 PM11/18/09
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Tony is trying to screw you guys. Don't buy that crap. I've got $6500
here for all of the HUO CC's you've got. $6000 is just too cheap.
$6500 is perfect. I'd even go $6750 for a low play HUO CC.

Joe

PinFlipper

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:27:38 PM11/18/09
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ya this is why i asked for another opinion...if u go back and read my
posts with captain neo he is not in touch with current prices...my
last topic which he put his input into was a gnr topper that i sold
two for a vendor on here at 300 each and he told me i was crazy that
they were not worth it...so i showed him two on ebay that finished at
300..umm and if u look at my new gnr topper post the other day one
finished over 500 and theres another one on there now also that just
started....so cactus canyon 5500 to 6500 range

joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:54:38 PM11/18/09
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At least Neo is consistent, add about 50% to his prices and you will
be on target. I have never seen anyone so full of shit every time he
opens his mouth! LOL!!!!!!


Chris

PinFlipper

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:04:21 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 10:54 pm, "joe mamma pinballwiz...@SPAMgmail.com"

haha god thats the truth

FLYING HIGH DA900EX

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:07:33 AM11/19/09
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I'm down in Dallas right now and HAD to swing by "Fun", he's got a CC
and claimed it's sold and going "Down Under". His price was $8900 and
was clean. I was thinking about making an offer. Wasn't in bad shape.
So I'd guess you're in the ~$8000 range!! E

teekee

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:39:10 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 18, 9:28 pm, Julie Grenuk <julie.gre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Damn it Joe! Ok, if goodie bag is still attached and less than 500
plays I'll go $6800! :)

... at any rate the bottom line is CC still commands the big bucks.

shlockdoc

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:36:39 AM11/19/09
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Tony stop staying up all night and get some sleep.

Pin - K

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:57:25 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 18, 6:15 pm, PinFlipper <Lll...@aol.com> wrote:
> whats a route version and huo version going for now? the only cc price
> wise i see is on ebay at 8k...thanks

The one that was at the Texas Pinball Festival in March (asking price
$6500 or $6000 & not sold during the show) just went to a happy person
in the Houston area for $4500.
Typical Decal issues around the legs, cracked right Gun but a nice
game overall.

Pin - K

teekee

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:27:08 AM11/19/09
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I'm sure it happens but not at all typical...

PinFlipper

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:26:15 PM11/19/09
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picked up a route cc today..probably the only cc in a operators route
in new england..pf was good with no paint wear. overall plastics and
things looked great. only issue is the normal side art wear at the
legs. never played one before..looks like its going to be a fun game
to add to my collection.

Michael O'Brien

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:35:01 PM11/19/09
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> > I'm sure it happens but not at all typical...
>
> picked up a route cc today..probably the only cc in a operators route
> in new england..pf was good with no paint wear. overall plastics and
> things looked great. only issue is the normal side art wear at the
> legs. never played one before..looks like its going to be a fun game
> to add to my collection.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ok now, after all this talk about CC value, price check, etc - ya
gotta spill the beans and tell us the price! :)

PinFlipper

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:11:48 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 7:35 pm, "Michael O'Brien" <michaelrobr...@comcast.net>
wrote:

cant do that could affect the opinions of potential buyers down the
road lol. when i get bored with it sometime it will be up on here for
sale just not going to be soon.. let just say i used the info here to
guage what kind of offer to make him. so thank u everyone for helping
with a price check..

Captain Neo

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:34:07 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 6:35 pm, "Michael O'Brien" <michaelrobr...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I bet it's in the price range I stated or even less. Hence why he
doesn't want to say and make himself come across as an ass. 6500 for
a CC at a pin show and didn't sell. Shocking. By the sounds of
some of you in here, you'd think that was the deal of century. Some
of you still think it is 2 years ago when it comes to prices.
Believe it or not, prices are getting back down to reasonable. The
hype has died down with the economy.

Captain Neo

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:40:21 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 18, 9:54 pm, "joe mamma pinballwiz...@SPAMgmail.com"

Wow did you just call yourself out. If you pay 50% more than any
price I quote, you are a straight up sucker. Definately the kind of
person people, like Fun, look for. Hey, I hear Monkeys Home Theatre
has a bunch of games in the price range you shoot for. Should go
check them out. ahahhhahahahahah, if I ever sell my games, I hope
people like you show up.

joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:51:36 PM11/19/09
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Private First Class Neo,

Get a clue pal! I have NEVER seen you get even close to market prices
on a post "what is game XYZ worth"? I could care less what you want
to post, I find your posts quite humorous. I use to think you were
just stupid and didn't know anything about game prices. Now I see
that you like to cause controversy. I no longer think you are stupid,
more like someone who likes to stir the pot. You keep it interesting
if nothing else.


Keep posting the jokes!


Chris

PS. Next time I'm looking to buy a game I will employ you to find and
buy it for me ;-)


PinFlipper

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:50:50 AM11/20/09
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lets take a test ok neo?
give me the prices u think for these pin prices u would buy them for
and sell them for?
tz
mb
afm
gnr
taf
tom
cv
then ill will tell u what i have bought them for and sold them for in
the past few months..i have had doubles of all these in the past 6
months

this will be comical

Captain Neo

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:21:51 PM11/20/09
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And I don't even pay the prices I quote. Price I quote are prices I
have either seen, been offered, or friends have been working on. I
don't pay the prices I quote. I pay less.


Just like those $1500 whitewaters, which you say was unreal, then that
same week 3 went up on here for $1400-1500. You still think it's 3
years ago. Pin market has dropped. Believe it or not.

joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:42:42 AM11/21/09
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PFC Neo,

Way to skirt the question!!!! I have to meet you sometime in person,
I hope you are as funny as you are here!


HA! HA!HA! HA!HA! HA!HA! HA!HA! HA!

Captain Neo

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:47:54 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 21, 6:42 am, "joe mamma pinballwiz...@SPAMgmail.com"

why don't you amuse the class and give your prices on them so we can
all have a good laugh and everyone can offer you their machines. and
i'm sure you paid all the prices your going to quote.

PinFlipper

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:31:30 PM11/21/09
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i will gladly be 100% honest of what i paid and sold the list i have
up here once u give me ur prices like i asked for first...just want to
see how much ur full of shit first...it will be worth telling everyone
what i paid and sold for...im waiting, the list is above in this
thread..tell me how bad the market has gone down come on put up or
shut up....u got nothing to lose im the one thats giving up personal
information on my pins..all ur numbers are garbage...top end pins have
risen big time 500 to 1k or more the last few months ever hear of a
thing called christmas? since school started and parents came home
from summer vacations ive seen nothing but prices go up....lets see ur
prices on my list. im waiting

PinFlipper

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:42:53 PM11/21/09
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prices for a list pins are still going up...why dont u start watching
ebay and see the ones that actually finish where they end up..as for
the cc i did fine. theres a waiting list of people for it at 5500 to
6k for off route cc...just not selling it anytime soon.

joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:01:49 PM11/21/09
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PFC New can't rattle off prices b/c he would have to remember what BS
had been rolling out of his cake slot. Either that or he would have
to admit he is full of shit. Either way he won't give prices anytime
soon, at least until he goes back and reads the load of crap he has
posted, cross referenced his latest with his old posts.


I'll go first so he has something to say was wrong, easier to follow
then lead (for PFC New anyway)...


Decent shape shopped but not CQ games.


tz $2900 -- $3700
mb $3800 -- $4500
afm $3500 -- $4300
gnr $2600 -- $3400
taf $2200 -- $3k
tom $2700 -- $3500
cv $3700 -- $4500


This is an idea of what decent shopped but not CQ games have gone for
that I have seen. Of course there will be an outlier or two on the
top and bottom. Now PFC New give it your best shot and tell us if the
price you listed is if you are buying or selling.


Bonus game -- MM $5,200 -- $6,000 with a few over the top of that at
$6,500.


Go PFC New! (Captian Neo)


CK
:)

PinChamp

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:55:40 PM11/21/09
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> tz  $2900 -- $3700
> mb  $3800 -- $4500
> afm  $3500 -- $4300
> gnr  $2600 -- $3400
> taf $2200 -- $3k
> tom  $2700 -- $3500
> cv $3700 -- $4500
>

As expected these are sucker prices for people unwilling to look past
the usual places to buy.

For the archives:

RGP beware of Joe Mamma, Teekee and Pinflipper. They are all classic
price inflators with a clear agenda that revolves around making money
first and foremost.

Take the time to do some research and you can find pins at much better
prices than they will quote.

Here are the real price ranges for those pins in non-CQ quality for
those willing to do some diligence (I have no agenda here other than
truth as my pin collection is complete and I am not looking to buy or
sell games anymore):

> tz $2400 -- $3200
> mb $2900 -- $3700
> afm $2700 -- $3500
> gnr $2000 -- $2800
> taf $2200 -- $3k (you were actually right on this one)
> tom $2200 -- $3000
> cv $3000 -- $3800

And these are California prices, and most seem to think California has
higher prices than other parts of the country.

Captain Neo

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:07:06 PM11/21/09
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I agree with pinchamp. I havnt' seen a GNR sell for over $2400 in a
year and a half. Most average $2200. TZ always hovers around the
2600 range along with TAF. AFM has always stayed around the 2900-3100
range, MB usually sticks around 3k to 3500. For TOM, good luck
trying to get over 3k for that one, and CV has dropped a lot. Used to
fetch for shopped and routed versions, until about a year ago, I
barely got $4500 for a freshly clearcoated sample, with skinny
ringmaster head. For MM, lately i've seen on average low 5's,
sometimes even 4500. These are shopped (term is subjective) average
games.

PinFlipper

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:31:14 PM11/21/09
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i got a guy willing to spend 2700 for gnr right now so with 300 for
shipping find me a gnr at 2400 and ill set u up with him...i hear
crickets all of a sudden!!!! also got a guy in chicago that wants a mb
for 3600 to 4k...can give u his email too cause with ur price and
shipping charge i have a buyer...again crickets im sure.....just sold
a unshopped afm last week on ebay for 3500 yes off route and
uuunnnshopped...want the link to prove it!!! sold a project cv not
wired for 3100 on ebay and a complete perfect player condition cv for
4100..this is all in the last few weeks...i think its u that are still
living in the past price ranges buddy

PinFlipper

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:34:36 PM11/21/09
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o ya i forgot i have a buyer for tz at 2600 also because he cant get
one here in new england for under 3200...three buyers show me the pins
at that price ill send each one of them

Captain Neo

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:35:17 PM11/21/09
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well what are you wasting your time on here for then? You found your
suckers you better go land them, before they figure out they are
overpaying. Glad you found your suckers. Congrats and sleep well.

PinFlipper

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:43:38 PM11/21/09
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i will set anyone up if they can get me the those prices on the three
pins i just said with neos prices...i wont make a dime just will set u
up with the buyers...rgp is not full of suckers only one asshole

Captain Neo

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:46:13 PM11/21/09
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I notice your egar to spout off on how much you can get, and you
insist that these prices are unobtainable. But you fail to mention
what you pay for games? You must pay the prices we quote or less, or
you couldn't make your cash.

joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:54:49 PM11/21/09
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PFC New.... Nah, now you are just private now, new. I'm busting you
down to private from PFC after your latest blunder!

HA! HA!
HA! HA!
HA! HA!
HA! HA!
HA! HA!
HA! HA!


Stepped on your nuts didn't you bozo!

The reason you didn't get more then $4500 for the CV is b/c YOU
shopped it. Get a clue man. Your reputation must have helped you a
lot there bozo.

HA! HA!
HA! HA!
HA! HA!
HA! HA!
HA! HA!

PinFlipper

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:56:40 PM11/21/09
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we were talking about going prices on ebay and craigslist and rgp for
the general public people thats buying them..not what someone like
urself picks them up for from a operator....u say i can get them at a
cheaper price...show me them!!i have three people looking to buy a
mb,gnr, and tz i dont want anything more than to set thm up no money
for me....if i had one for sale i would have sold them. i have them in
my personal collection not for sale. general public doesnt know
operators like u do so they go to rgp,craigslist and ebay...in my
first topic i stated that my prices were from these places and actual
finished sales not overpriced buy it nows that never finish. so ur
saying the prices u quoted for going rates on tz gnr mb cv are the
prices u pay when u get them? cause theres no way ur selling them for
what u get them. i sold a gnr with water damage floor cabinet that was
drooping for 2400 a few weeks back..and the other guy would have paid
2700 if i forgot about the orginial buyer, im sure thats something u
would have done

cody chunn

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:02:17 PM11/21/09
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Pssst: nobody cares.

--
-cody
--CARGPB4
[Note: Following any advice given in this message
may result in property damage, minor injury, serious injury or death.
Follow advice at your own peril.]


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Captain Neo

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:05:52 PM11/21/09
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I don't know operators and usually don't buy from them. What about
the STTNG i picked up on ebay for 1600, plays 100% and plays great.
BOP for $700 on ebay. Funhouse for $1300, again on ebay. If you
wait it out, the deals land on here, ebay and mr.pinball. Just wait
and don't be in a rush. Those people have to do their own legwork.
It's not going to get force fed for you. If they have money to piss
away, then they call the easy route overpriced path such as people
like you or store fronts.

joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:08:35 PM11/21/09
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Yo Cody,

I care, I guess I'm nobody though so you're somewhat correct,
whoopee! I am just tired of Neo and his BS comments. I have no axe
to grind w/ you.

I'll stop commenting on this theme right here, right now though.

later,

Chris

BUY...@aol.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:10:49 PM11/21/09
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On Nov 21, 7:02�pm, "cody chunn" <cchu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Pssst: nobody cares.
>
> --
> -cody
> --CARGPB4
> [Note: Following any advice given in this message
> �may result in property damage, minor injury, serious injury or death.
> �Follow advice at your own peril.]
>
> "Captain Neo" <nwoj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:5430d379-0d56-4513...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice your egar to spout off on how much you can get, and you
> > insist that these prices are unobtainable. �But you fail to mention
> > what you pay for games? � You must pay the prices we quote or less, or
> > you couldn't make your cash.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

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PinFlipper

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:43:56 PM11/21/09
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sold a fun house with pf wear for 1600 last month, stng 6 months ago
2500...should i keep going. lets stay to the pins i listed
tz,afm,cv,mb, tom,gnr,taf, all "a" list pins...sold a guy a demo man
for 1100 now thats overpriced by 300 but thats not the type were
talking about. "a" list pins stick to the path that keeps ur foot in
ur mouth neo dont slip off its more amusing this way....tell u what
lets talk about ur restoration prices since u dont keep any in plain
site on ur web adress...u have a demo man pf...lets say i gave u one
and i wanted ur top level of restoration. a perfectly good demo man is
between 800 to 1k with no wear...how much would u charge for that top
tier restoration dm pf? give the public a quote lets hear it? u want
to talk about overpriced!!!! someone could come close to buying a good
demo man for what u want just for that pf i bet... hows that foot
taste?

goatdan

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:27:58 AM11/22/09
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Okay, seriously here...

You are both in different worlds. Neo is a deal hunter. I feel I'm
in the same category. We look for deals on games and then snap them
up. I have got certain games in my collection for ridiculously good
prices because I was willing to wait for the right one to walk along.
I knew I would pay a certain amount for it, and I would wait to get it
at that price.

The three flippers on here live in a world where clients want the
games when they want them. You have to stock the games to have them
on hand when someone wants one, so while you get some deals as they
come along, you also sell the games higher because the buyers want
that exact game at the moment they want it.

Ultimately, you are both right for the markets you are in. I have
seen a lot of the prices that Neo is talking about because I'm in the
same general market as him, and I have snatched up a bunch of them. I
paid just over $600 for my Whirlwind, but it was because the deal
basically fell into my lap. If I was looking to purchase a Whirlwind
and do it immediately, I would have expected to pay $1000-$1500. Now,
if I was asked what a fair price range was for a Whirlwind, if I said
$600 I'm certain people would tell me I was crazy, but if you wait for
it you can get it.

So everyone relax. Neo is right -- if you are willing to wait long
enough for the right deal on a CC to pop up, you can get them that
cheap. But the other guys are right too because if you want it TODAY,
there is no way in hell you can just pick one up that cheaply whenever.

Captain Neo

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:08:21 PM11/22/09
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apparently you know nothing about the restoration business. There
isn't a generic price for them, ever. Every field is individually
quoted based on pictures and the amount of work needed, and the level
of work requested. Some people restore games, that are way above and
beyond what the game is worth, only because they like that game. But
they know they will lose their ass when it comes time to sell it. Ask
anyone that restores a Wh2o. And my prices for restoration and
clearcoating are way below my competition and my turnaround time is
half or 3x's faster. So, no I don't gouge on my stuff, and never
have. Just because you do, doesn't mean everyone does.

Topper

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:19:27 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 11:08 am, Captain Neo <nwoj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 10:43 pm, PinFlipper <Lll...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 21, 7:05 pm, CaptainNeo<nwoj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 21, 5:56 pm, PinFlipper <Lll...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > ur mouthneodont slip off its more amusing this way....tell u what

> > lets talk about ur restoration prices since u dont keep any in plain
> > site on ur web adress...u have a demo man pf...lets say i gave u one
> > and i wanted ur top level of restoration. a perfectly good demo man is
> > between 800 to 1k with no wear...how much would u charge for that top
> > tier restoration dm pf? give the public a quote lets hear it? u want
> > to talk about overpriced!!!! someone could come close to buying a good
> > demo man for what u want just for that pf i bet... hows that foot
> > taste?
>
> apparently you know nothing about the restoration business.  There
> isn't a generic price for them, ever.  Every field is individually
> quoted based on pictures and the amount of work needed, and the level
> of work requested.  Some people restore games, that are way above and
> beyond what the game is worth, only because they like that game. But
> they know they will lose their ass when it comes time to sell it.  Ask
> anyone that restores a Wh2o.  And my prices for restoration and
> clearcoating are way below my competition and my turnaround time is
> half or 3x's faster.  So, no I don't gouge on my stuff, and never
> have.  Just because you do, doesn't mean everyone does.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Neo-- off your topoic here but I was wondering if you had a JunkYard
for sale I'm looking for a nice one at areasonable price and was told
you were the man to talk too

PinFlipper

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:32:46 PM11/22/09
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ya neo ur the man with the cheap prices talk to the man...sell him one
im curious ur price quote

Captain Neo

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:19:54 AM11/23/09
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when I actually see junkyards they are usually 1700-1900 range. See
some for sale for 2200, but they are the same ones for sale for the
past year and a half.
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