I have been to Lloyds......and it was good.
Bryan Kelly
home.....should be another half hour or so. He'll post the pics he
took at that time also.
Lloyds game had a couple of major mechanical issues that I'm sure he'll
have taken care of when he closes, but other than that, I'd say Stern
has hit a homerun with this one. Beautiful pin, lots of color, lots of
lights and plays very well.
I'd say anyone that's ordered one......I think you're gonna like it.
:-)
It's past my bedtime.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
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justice. It is just one hell of a nice looking pin.
Well, except for the sneeze guard. Kinda reminds me of the green
monster at Fenway.....only it's clear. Thank goodness you don't notice
it when your playing.
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PinMan
;-)
Keep in mind I've never owned nor even liked a Stern game (not even
LOTR), but POTC is the real deal folks. I played probably 2 dozen
games on it tonight and I have to say it's more than a home run, it's a
grand slam. Like Brian said the ship's motor was down tonight
apparently the gears stripped out on the motor? (hopefully an isolated
incident and just plain bad luck) but the thing plays FAST and the
shots are relatively tough and the ruleset plenty deep. First thing
you notice is how spectacular it looks, the playfield art is super
crisp! And bright... wow this game is 25-50% brighter (the playfield
is lit up like an Xmas tree) that any other game in the row of games at
Lloyds where it sits (and that includes LOTR). Amazing flow, great
sound, flippers worked flawlessly and stayed strong all night, fun
shots and toys (even without the ship working), some good humor
(although I do hope the sounds and speech expand with future ROMs)...
wow its a top 2 or 3 game people. I played MM sitting 3 down twice and
honestly didn't feel fun to me after playing POTC.
If you have the funds, I'd say run don't walk to your nearest
distributor. I'm a convert.
Mark Salas
>Bryan Kelly wrote:
> Lloyds game had a couple of major mechanical issues that I'm sure he'll
> have taken care of when he closes, but other than that, I'd say Stern
> has hit a homerun with this one.
Good job Bryan. You break Lloyds new game and then you go home and go
to bed. Did you have to pay to play the game? Did Lloyd give you a free
game? Did you put slugs in the coin mech for a free game :)
mnpinball
P-) The picks are worth it. Trust me. I will post again once the pics
are uploaded. Stay tuned.
Jason.
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PinMan
and the all the rest of the games maybe a fourth of that. ;-)
Better line up 3 or 4 POTC's LTG. ;-) In all seriously, it's new, of
course everyone wants to play it, but long term I'm predicting it will
hold it's own with LOTR and MM as top earners.
Lloyd Olson
game should. But no pin earns in the hundreds. LTG :)
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scott
Im actually staying up to see the pictures. Thanks Jason
Lloyd did you fix the motor in the ship??? also, do you think the
sneeze guard is necessary for home use??
thanks guys, and congratulations Lloyd, hope its a big money earner for
you.
Scott
Detroit
PinMan
a hundred.
I wasn't trying to be accurate just dramatic. ;-) The ratio was the
important thing.
PinMan
guard question is yes... you'll need it in home use. If you had a
sweet game going and you launched one up there by the ship there are
lots of places for the ball to get tied up.
Honestly it doesn't look bad in person and you don't even notice it
while playing the game.
Mark Teskey
most (if not all) of the photos. We had everything - pirates
everywhere, rum, wenches, and pin footies.
Amen to all the positive kudos - though I only was able to commit $1 to
the evening take on POTC. It wasn't because I didn't want to - it's
that I couldn't! It was busy non-stop for 3 straight hours. When I
finally did get to play 10 minutes before I had to go - it was worth
the wait.
The nice part about not getting a shot on POTC was the chance to catch
up with some old friends (Banzai Run, SafeCracker, TZ, MM, Nascar, JP,
and of course LTG..) and many new ones (the MN Pinball Pirates).
Thanks guys for a fun evening!
-Mark.
mnpinball
weren't meant to be seen !! You have been warned P-)
My review will be next.
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Trinity
Trin
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Cliffy
mnpinball wrote:
> Okay guys. The pics are now up. Be warned ye scurvy dogs. Somethings
> weren't meant to be seen !! You have been warned P-)
>
> My review will be next.
>
> http://www.pinballmadness.net/collections/Lloyds-fun-night-at-SS-Billiards-with-Crazy-J
>
> Jason.
> http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/mnpinball
> www.pinballmadness.net
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our games next week. I had faith in the game based on theme and
designer and ordered 4 months ago. But hey that's just me. As info was
released and more things known along the way I had a feeling this was
going to live up to the hype. I was dead on !
POTC lives up to the hype. The Playfield is crystal clear and the
lines and art are top quality. The best seen thus far on a Stern game.
The side art is just as nice but does suffer the pixelation that is
known for them. The artwork is itself is A1 quality in the same regards
to LOTR. The translight is unbelievable to say the least. Kevin
O'Connor has outdone himself. Gameplay is very deep and has alot to
shoot for. This will keep anyone busy and coming back again and again
no matter how good a player you are.
The clear ship gaurd is not that noticable, it will stay on mine. Why
chance a ball getting jammed in the ship. The mixmaster 2.0 rocks !
Great DMD interaction.
Lighting is great, the toys are very cool and satisfying. Humor and
speech quotes are fabulous. Great theme, great game, great job
Stern-Dennis Nordman-Dwight Sullivan-Kevin O'Connor-and newcomer Dave
Thier for the awesome sound package.
I want Stern to stand on their own and hate to make comparrisons. BUT,
this game has the look, feel and gameplay of a Williams if I have ever
seen it !! This game will sell-sell-sell. Start savin' yer dubloons
yee sea dogs. This will be a must have pin and I would take this over a
Medieval Madness any day of the week.
Finally a Stern game that sets NEW standards !! As Vince said, Stern
hits a Grand Slam out of Chicago !!!
Pics again in case you missed them.
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Jason.
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mnpinball
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SilverUnicorn
like that, or did he put that on?
Chris
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Castle Crusher
tournament system..
however all new stern from WPT now come with the tournament system
and can be run using just the dot matrix.. the large display is nice
though.
you could still get it if u wanted to add it on..
its all here at stern...
http://www.sternpinball.com/NewTournamentSystem.shtml
Bryan Kelly
that ordered the game are going to say that.
My first impression was.....WTF is that thing!!!!!! I swear, it looks
like the green monster at Fenway , only clear......and that's no sh*t.
It does grow on you and you do get used to it. After about 6 hours of
playing it, it didn't bother me so much. Still ugly, though.
If I bought one, I'd have to play it a while and see how many airballs
I got in home use. It does protect about the top 1/4 of the playfield.
I'd be tempted to remove it.
Sneeze guard or no sneeze guard, I'd still give POTC......3 THUMBS
UP!!!!
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
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TheKorn
@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
> Keep in mind I've never owned nor even liked a Stern game (not even
> LOTR), but POTC is the real deal folks. I played probably 2 dozen
> games on it tonight
...lightweight... :)
> Amazing flow, great
> sound, flippers worked flawlessly and stayed strong all night, fun
> shots and toys (even without the ship working), some good humor
> (although I do hope the sounds and speech expand with future ROMs)...
> wow its a top 2 or 3 game people. I played MM sitting 3 down twice and
> honestly didn't feel fun to me after playing POTC.
While I agree with your overall comments (very much so!), I have to pick
nits here... POTC is *not* a flow game, by any means. In fact, I can
think of only two shots that actually *flow* anywhere in the game:
* Shot to the Kraken flows into the pops
* Right "not-an-orbit" orbit shot flows into the pops
What POTC *does* do, and very well, is make sure that it never holds onto
that dear metal ball. (F*CKING BRAVO STERN, ABOUT F*CKING TIME YOU
LEARNED THAT LESSON!!) So the ball is usually moving into or rebounding
off of something (except for the few times the game has an up-post up
letting a ball 'settle') and not stopping.
...but that's not to be confused for *flow*, where the ball ends up
someplace else as a result. :)
I.E. POTC is no shadow, which flows like crazy. Ball goes in spot A,
comes back out in spot B. POTC is more of a rake, where ball goes in
spot A, comes back OUT spot A.
--
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web or on DVD?
TheKorn
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
> Sneeze guard or no sneeze guard, I'd still give POTC......3 THUMBS
> UP!!!!
You can fit three thumbs in there? What, do you invite friends over to
join in the fun or something!??
Hehehehehehehehhehehehehe!! :))))))))
Bryan Kelly
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Boyd Bottorff
> While I agree with your overall comments (very much so!), I have to pick
> nits here... POTC is *not* a flow game, by any means. In fact, I can
> think of only two shots that actually *flow* anywhere in the game:
Big hairy deal. Flow gets overrated here.
> What POTC *does* do, and very well, is make sure that it never holds onto
> that dear metal ball. (F*CKING BRAVO STERN, ABOUT F*CKING TIME YOU
> LEARNED THAT LESSON!!)
YES! YESYESYESyesyesyesyes! YES! That was one of the worst parts
about adding a DMD to the game. All of the sudden, programmers wanted
you to see the pretty dots. Guys, I didn't stick money in this thing to
watch TV. Really.
> So the ball is usually moving into or rebounding
> off of something (except for the few times the game has an up-post up
> letting a ball 'settle') and not stopping.
We'll... tolerate this. This time.
TheKorn
news:1hix75x.aboxuz3ndx2eN%nom...@nomail.com:
> TheKorn <The...@TheKorn.Net> wrote:
>
>> While I agree with your overall comments (very much so!), I have to
>> pick nits here... POTC is *not* a flow game, by any means. In fact,
>> I can think of only two shots that actually *flow* anywhere in the
>> game:
>
> Big hairy deal. Flow gets overrated here.
Missing the point... (and that's your opinion, anyway.)
If you're going to describe a game that most haven't seen nor played, you
need to describe it accurately. Describing an orange car as red isn't a
big deal in the grand scheme of things, other than being absolutely
wrong.
Similarly, it's wrong to call POTC a flow game. It isn't, period.
What I DIDN'T say (and what you seem to assuming I said) is that it's a
*bad* game because it doesn't flow. It's not.
Kenbo
[...]
>
>While I agree with your overall comments (very much so!), I have to pick
>nits here... POTC is *not* a flow game, by any means.
I've got to ask, is the ball in play a lot more than in TZ?
[...]
* Desperately searching for a nice Diner playfield!
* Email is munged.
PinMan
Actually come to think of it the flow we were feeling was actually not
meant to be... with the ship motor not working Lloyd pushed the ship
"up" and into the playfield so all shots at the ship were flowing right
through to the pops. That was the shot I was making all night the damn
ramp to the mixmaster shot I was missing all night! In fact the left
side drain was my friggin' nemesis last night and quickly became the
"Vince shot".
Mark C. Spaeth
: Oh, and for those asking for detailed pics, they won't do this thing
: justice. It is just one hell of a nice looking pin.
:
: Well, except for the sneeze guard. Kinda reminds me of the green
: monster at Fenway.....only it's clear.
You mean people will pay a lot of money to sit on top and watch you
play? :)
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TheKorn
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>>While I agree with your overall comments (very much so!), I have to
pick
>>nits here... POTC is *not* a flow game, by any means.
>
> I've got to ask, is the ball in play a lot more than in TZ?
I would say so. When I'm playing TZ, seems as though half the time is
spent waiting for the ball to roll down from the piano, or the
hitchhiker, or the gumball machine, or just sitting in the slot scoop
waiting for the game to pop the ball out.
And I'm fully willing to admit this may just be the effect of new game
rose colored glasses, but it doesn't *seem* as though the ball is out of
play that often in POTC. Yes, when you hit the ball into the mixmaster
it goes out of play for a while. When you hit the chest, the game
quickly feeds it to the not-an-orbit right orbit and it returns fairly
quickly. Shots to the ship return fairly quickly. Shots to the kraken
don't, but under NORMAL circumstances ( :) ) that's only in the kracken
mode. The jack shot returns the ball to the right flipper. And the very
close left and right EM-style shots obviously return the ball into play
almost immediately.
TheKorn
news:1153668318.4...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> Leave it to Korn to call me out. ;-)
Haha, hey, at least I have a basis! :)
> Actually come to think of it the flow we were feeling was actually not
> meant to be... with the ship motor not working Lloyd pushed the ship
> "up" and into the playfield so all shots at the ship were flowing
> right through to the pops. That was the shot I was making all night
> the damn ramp to the mixmaster shot I was missing all night! In fact
> the left side drain was my friggin' nemesis last night and quickly
> became the "Vince shot".
Yeah, when you're dialed in on the mixmaster shot, you can really stand
the game on end. If you're not dialed in, well... 50M isn't doing too
badly.
Let me guess.... up, and slightly off so oh no it didn't make it to the
top of the mixmaster ramp.... x20. :)
I will say the shots that are *tough* to hit to completion are the not-a-
left-orbit and not-a-right-orbit shots. You really have to hit those
exactly dead nuts to get them to go all the way around to the top,
otherwise the ball rattles around and only goes up about halfway before
giving up.
Rick Swanson
> Bryan Kelly <bske...@aol.com> wrote:
> : Oh, and for those asking for detailed pics, they won't do this thing
> : justice. It is just one hell of a nice looking pin.
> :
> : Well, except for the sneeze guard. Kinda reminds me of the green
> : monster at Fenway.....only it's clear.
>
> You mean people will pay a lot of money to sit on top and watch you
> play? :)
>
I think Bryan was obtusely making
reference to the "green monster" he
sneezed onto the glass canopy that
covers the salad bar at his local
Shoneys. ;-)
--
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Morristown, Tennessee
CARGPB6
Lloyd Olson
sorry to hear that Bryan. LTG :)
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Lloyd Olson
on top about the size of my LED sign that is yellow with red border and has
the word "TOURNAMENT" on it. This sign can be up or folded down, it is
mounted on two plastic hinge things. Stern's new board set ( from WPT on )
has a plug on the board for the info to the sign, and you still have to have
the sign's power supply and run a line up to the sign. Stern moved the hole
for these wires to the other side of the head ( right side when you are in
front facing the translite ) so you don't have wires running along the top
of the cabinet. LTG :)
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frenchy
PinMan wrote:
> I'll let LTG answer the first question but the answer to the sneeze
> guard question is yes... you'll need it in home use. If you had a
> sweet game going and you launched one up there by the ship there are
> lots of places for the ball to get tied up.
>
So the problem is balls getting stuck in the crevices of the ship
itself? Or stuck behind it? Maybe there are things that could be
added to the ship like small posts etc. that could allow removal of
that guard?
mnpinball
to shoot for and precise shots need to be made. With the numerous green
standup targets the lower PF keeps it moving. Making a straight dead on
shot to a target gets the ball flying quite fast and back at you. You
need to keep alert on this one. I do like the u-turn up ramp on the mid
right habitrail ramp and the left/right u-through lanes-every time they
come out those the ball hops off the top edge of the sling corner so
you need to watch it and some skill can be had to manuver the ball
where you want to.
I would rate this a 9/10 all around and does have some real deep
software we have not even touched on. Not an easy game by any means. It
will keep you busy for a long time to come. This is a winner from
Stern. Elements of Whitewater and Medieval Madness, with a sprinkle of
Scared Stiff and a Dr Dude Mixmaster (although I tend to think more a
Flintstones rock crusher). This is a fabulous game. Honestly I can't
say anything bad about it.
Jason.
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KME
> I would rate this a 9/10 all around and does have some real deep
> software we have not even touched on.
You say it is deep and Derek says there are no modes. Which is it? :)
My only concern is DOES THE BALL DRAIN or is this another
Nascar/WPT/LOTR where the outlanes appear smaller than the ball :)
mnpinball
of us were real happy with it. We all thought it was a hard enough game
to make the numerous shots, hell not any one of us got heart multiball,
that's a tough mode to get. It is deep, I just about spelled Parlay but
was tough. Getting the 3 rollovers to get K-E-Y takes skill. I don't
think it's a drain monster although the left outlane post was moved up
all the way so you needed to stay away from that area from draining the
ball. Vince was getting that all night so we called it the "Vince
shot". This is not an easy game, it's nice to play a game and even
after a month see some surprises. I do think this is that kind of
game. We were running 1.03v software, I am sure more will come with
time.
Jason.
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dp
seems to contradict. Hope this problem does not escalate but this is
the reason I am holding off ordering. These things start failing in
the field and operators will get frustrated. Hopefully this will not
be the case. It is one thing if it breaks at home, it is another if it
can't make money. Just my thoughts.....
DP
Bryan Kelly wrote:
> I'll let crazy Jason give a detailed review of the POTC when he gets
> home.....should be another half hour or so. He'll post the pics he
> took at that time also.
>
> Lloyds game had a couple of major mechanical issues that I'm sure he'll
> have taken care of when he closes, but other than that, I'd say Stern
> has hit a homerun with this one. Beautiful pin, lots of color, lots of
> lights and plays very well.
>
> I'd say anyone that's ordered one......I think you're gonna like it.
> :-)
>
> It's past my bedtime.
>
Daniel Tonks
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As far as I know the biggest problem is the big open pit in the playfield
that the ship sinks into. Other than that, I haven't seen a machine yet, I
do not know if the ball can get hung up in the actual ship mechanism (or
around the sides/front of the ship).
If this turns out to be a popular game and it's eventually determined
exactly what the issue is, I hope someone will be able to manufacture some
aftermarket guard that doesn't involve walling off the entire corner of the
machine!
- Dan
John Bigbooty
>weren't meant to be seen !! You have been warned P-)
>
>My review will be next.
>
>http://www.pinballmadness.net/collections/Lloyds-fun-night-at-SS-Billiards-with-Crazy-J
>
Where do I order the "optional wench" topper??? I'd love to have her
ready for when my POTC arrives.
Mark
Norcross GA