I hate to follow trends But WTF is wayne's problem.
yetterben
sueing issue. Here is what i got in return.
We have sued heaps of people but they shit themselves and settle
before court the weak pricks they are. Thats fine as they pay all our
legal fees and costs + Damages, they sign non disclosures thats why
you never hear about it. I have more money than you ever will my poor
Buddy. I control your little hobby, If i need more money i will just
increase my prices again. Wayne Gillard
The Pinball Factory
www.pinball.com
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btrip
Uh oh. Did you read the confidentiality statement at the bottom of
his e-mail!?
I sense a C&D coming your way soon ;)
yetterben
His local cp laws mean nothing. Especially over data sent over the net
via email. it is funny though that's why i posted it. I hope his
douche licking cock sucking ass sues what a waste of time and money on
his part.
Lloyd Olson
LTG :)
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TheKorn
3142d7...@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com:
> Emailed him to ask him whats up with MM and asking why so harsh on the
> sueing issue. Here is what i got in return.
>
> We have sued heaps of people but they shit themselves and settle
> before court the weak pricks they are. Thats fine as they pay all our
> legal fees and costs + Damages, they sign non disclosures thats why
> you never hear about it. I have more money than you ever will my poor
> Buddy. I control your little hobby, If i need more money i will just
> increase my prices again. Wayne Gillard
> The Pinball Factory
> www.pinball.com
Dude, whatever. There are two things Wayne is stopping: JACK and SHIT.
Just yesterday I received a non-licensed part in the mail. What's it for?
Oh, I dunno, let's just say it's for MY WALL. That it also happens to fit
inside a pinball machine perfectly is a happy coincidence! :)
--
Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
web or on DVD?
yetterben
> yetterben <yetter...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c74c4bce-1365-4120-85f2-
> 3142d73b1...@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com:
let me tell yah i am so scared i am hiding all my assets and my two
pinball machines lol. i better shut down the pinball play field press
out in my shed too. I was tired of not being able to fit the lawn
mower in there anyway.
yetterben
I hope that guy is standing behind a boosted rx2 or rx3 one day and a
apex seal fly's out the tail pipe and hits him in the frontal lobe.
Car guys will know what i am talking about. Especially those from down
under :)
so
>
> His local cp laws mean nothing. Especially over data sent over the net
> via email. it is funny though that's why i posted it. I hope his
> douche licking cock sucking ass sues what a waste of time and money on
> his part.
Come on, don't hold back, tell us you really feel...
so
Kenbo
<yett...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Emailed him to ask him whats up with MM and asking why so harsh on the
>sueing issue. Here is what i got in return.
>
>We have sued heaps of people but they shit themselves and settle
>before court the weak pricks they are. Thats fine as they pay all our
>legal fees and costs + Damages, they sign non disclosures thats why
>you never hear about it. I have more money than you ever will my poor
>Buddy. I control your little hobby, If i need more money i will just
>increase my prices again. Wayne Gillard
>The Pinball Factory
>www.pinball.com
That guy sure knows how to build a support coalition.
yetterben
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:27:35 -0800 (PST), yetterben
>
The biggest thing that pissed me off was "He control's my hobby" wow
really little ol me with two low end wpc games get out really, you
control my automotive stuff wow i did not know you dropped that engine
in my stealth or helped me fix my ta really. What a self proclaimed
god of dookey :) Look out every one Wayne controls your balls lol.
dannyc...@live.co.uk
website?
Has he ever actually produced anything we can't source elsewhere?
c...@provide.net
> yetterben <yetter...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c74c4bce-1365-4120-85f2-
> 3142d73b1...@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com:
>
> > sueing issue. Here is what i got in return.
>
> > We have sued heaps of people but they shit themselves and settle
> > before court the weak pricks they are. Thats fine as they pay all our
> > legal fees and costs + Damages, they sign non disclosures thats why
> > you never hear about it. I have more money than you ever will my poor
> > Buddy. I control your little hobby, If i need more money i will just
> > increase my prices again. Wayne Gillard
> > The Pinball Factory
> >www.pinball.com
>
> Dude, whatever. There are two things Wayne is stopping: JACK and SHIT.
> Just yesterday I received a non-licensed part in the mail. What's it for?
> Oh, I dunno, let's just say it's for MY WALL. That it also happens to fit
> inside a pinball machine perfectly is a happy coincidence! :)
Korn very well said!
if you all want to put a strain on wayne, just
don't buy his stuff. Shop at Pinball Resouce
(who sell little to none of wayne's products).
Avoid shops that do sell a lot of kangaroo stuff
(a certain shop in the Bay Area of SF comes to
mind.) This is one of those things that is best
said with you wallet, and not so much by posting
here.
pinballfrenzy
Last time I checked PBR don't carry CV or MM decals.
Kenbo
<pinbal...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>
>Last time I checked PBR don't carry CV or MM decals.
Then do without?
Frank Traut
Okay down sports... why don't we all pitch in and
send him some desperately needed Xanax?
american...@hotmail.com
Key word are "may" and "intended". ROTFLMAO!
Pistol Pete
"I hope that guy is standing behind a boosted rx2 or rx3 one day and a
apex seal fly's out the tail pipe and hits him in the frontal lobe.
Car guys will know what i am talking about. Especially those from down
under :)"
Rotary engines. Don't need to be from down under to know them or appreciate
them, even if they do sound funny compared to a nice big V8. :-)
Pistol Pete
Baltimore, Maryland
sa...@mrpinball.com.au
From: ben yetter
To: sup...@pinball.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:18 PM
Subject: pinball repro
I just wanted to email you to tell you i am reproing lots of stuff.
Who knows what but its being reproed and you can do anything about it
nananananana YOU SUCK DICK HEAD.
Oh yeah cant wait to get ahold of nucore :) and all teh other stuff
that you dont make hahaha cant wait till you get sued for ripping
people off with your mm scam.
apimo...@yahoo.com
brai...@kooee.com.au
Someone get the straight jacket boys!
Someone has finally lost it.
Very mature post from a 'businessman' - comes across like a 3 year old
with that nananeenana rubbish
And could YOU SUCK DICKHEAD be part of the new roms for MM when it
gets released shortly?
And where is Expat at the moment - seems to be distancing himself from
these threads too??
bombe...@bellsouth.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
I once emailed this "business" person in regards to a playfield he had
listed on ebay. I simply wanted to know if it was an original or a
reproduction. Here was his responses....
"Mate I spent over a Million dolars buying the rights from Williams.
do you think i am going to risk selling a whitewood playfield that is
not original.
Please dont bid you guys are so anal
- pinball-sales"
When I responded that I thought his response was unprofessional
considering all I wanted to know was if the playfield was original or
not he sends this one...
"jealous I control your hobby
we also bought 78 patents which cosy 2-4k each to renew,plus
engineering inventory as well as artwork, you have no idea what we
paid,
The playfield is what it is.
I dont care what you buy from me, without our parts you may as well
sell your games.
Take care
- pinball-sales"
When I responded, never mind I didn't care to do business with such a
person I got this response....
"who gives a fuck mate
I am a millionaire and own the bally Williams pinball rights, so i
might just feel like a price increase on all our parts.
- pinball-sales"
My last response to him was to explain that his price increases would
not effect me and I didn't care to buy his .99 parts that he marks up
500% this was his response....
"yes we paid .99c for items selling for $500, we sell a lot of
products, we are the largest pinball parts Manufacturer in the World,
with Distributors in 30 countries, we own the Bally Williams IP and 78
Patents inc Williams Website www.pinball.com.
Mate I love your emails, Because you will buy parts for your games,
and we make them regardless of who you buy from.
Like owning a Corvette, you need to buy Chev Specific Parts if you
crash it
Go back to collecting un employment
- pinball-sales"
This guy needs help.
CornCob
Says the guy who posts negative, unverified news on UKPinball before
Christmas about Stern (the only *real* coinop pinball manufacturer),
like talking about Ray Tanzer quiting, trying so hard to get someone
else to re-post it to RGP during Steve's posting frenzy. Not to
mention all the talk about you trying to buy Stern :) :)
Says the guy who agrees to Sponsor the UKPinball show and then dumps
on it after all the free publicity, flyers and show advertising had
been printed and distributed.
Says the guy who spent 3years making inserts, at least thats what most
of the *development* photos show.
No one mentioned nucore but seeing as you did, I for one will be
pleased to see it marketed, hopefully with the hologram of
authenticity "Genuine NOT TPF endorced product". Maybe even a cool
looking animation on POST in 3D!
Ping
Taylor-VA
Why the hell would anyone spend two seconds of their lives sending him
an email like that?
I don't get it.
CornCob
Who knows? Perhaps a sign of desperation - his tiny pinball world
falling apart at the seams.
Ping
jiar...@aol.com
Hunter.Ha Ha Ha
5voltsr...@gmail.com
Maybe his prized dingo ran away.
Chad
Chris
dollars.
Lloyd Olson
at his company. Could be a troll post from anywhere.
In case it did come from Wayne, which I doubt. Please let me assure you Ben
isn't a Dick Head. LTG :)
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yetterben
Like i said i gotta move the play field press and cabinet factory i
need to get my lawn mower back in the shed. Thanks Ltg :)
Expat
Uhh..yeah whatever,Wayne posted yer exact email to him w/ headers and
all from December 30th correct?
You post a week later and are surprised at the response you got
considering yer foul mouthed rude insulting email?!?
Not only are you a desperate attention seeking newbie here
You are a bald-faced flat out LIAR...
And yer email to Wayne shows exactly the kinda mental midget you
really are
But I guess if yer that desperate to join the Wayne hating wacko
club,have at it
Those guys will believe ANYTHING ;)
Expat
LOL! The drama queen is still on parade...weren't you and Koz
supposed to have vanquished us from the horrible Wayne by now ?!?
zr1...@sbcglobal.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
What in the world could there possibly be about Wayno thet you like or
would defend? I see NO redeeming qualities whatsoever. Have you met
the guy or talked with him personnaly and know something we dont?
Kyle Wren
Expat says...
>
>But I guess if yer that desperate to join the Wayne hating wacko
>club,have at it
>Those guys will believe ANYTHING ;)
... except the notion that Wayne is building complete MM pinball machines. Even
us fan clubs have a limit to what we will believe in. :-)
--
Kyle Wren - CARGPB #27
"Back by Popular Demand - Happy Kyle!"
cal50
> He might want to hire a customer service rep with all his millions of
> dollars.
Personality transplant or donor would be a better use of funds.
greatw...@hotmail.com
Wayne Gillard certainly knows how to burn the bridges down with people
that want to help out with pinball products. After all the threatening
emails from himself or the sales@ about any pinball projects i am
working on. Here is his comments:
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.games.pinball/browse_thread/thread/767fe2b108c5a04e/14d73c3f8e8a59d0#14d73c3f8e8a59d0
You kick to many people down with your threats, who if you took a more
positive approach might of been there to help you out. You probably
could of been finished building some new pins if you weren't so busy
threatening people. Many different sources could of been ready to
provide the parts for production. But I guess time will tell if we
ever see a pinball factory in Australia.
Kyle Wren
greatw...@hotmail.com says...
>
>On Jan 5, 4:31=A0pm, cal50 <jbhar...@oh.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 5, 1:43=A0pm, Chris <chr...@wpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > He might want to hire a customer service rep with all his millions of
>> > dollars.
>>
>> Personality transplant or donor would be a better use of funds.
>
>Wayne Gillard certainly knows how to burn the bridges down with people
>that want to help out with pinball products. After all the threatening
>emails from himself or the sales@ about any pinball projects i am
>working on. Here is his comments:
>b108c5a04e/14d73c3f8e8a59d0#14d73c3f8e8a59d0
>
>You kick to many people down with your threats, who if you took a more
>positive approach might of been there to help you out. You probably
>could of been finished building some new pins if you weren't so busy
>threatening people. Many different sources could of been ready to
>provide the parts for production. But I guess time will tell if we
>ever see a pinball factory in Australia.
Your last question has already been answered by the man himself. Yes,
absolutely, we will see a pinball factory in Australia. In fact, it already
exists. It didn't begin when Wayne incorporated under a name that implied he was
a pinball factory, it began when he started taking orders and money on said
product. When the first person sent him a deposit under the promise they would
receive a pinball machine in exchange, like it or not, Wayne became a bonified
pinball machine manufacturer.
Of course, time will tell whether he is remembered as a successful pinball
machine manufacturer or not... :-)
There is a legitimate reason why people aren't hounding Herb or any of the other
people that have boasted they would build and sell complete games. Because those
other guys are doing it the right way, they are building their product and when
it's done they will sell it. Wayne bought the rights, posted a flyer picture on
his web site of something that someone else built 10 years earlier and started
taking money. Hence the formation of an active fan club in his behalf.
metallik
>
> Then do without?
Or occasionally post a WTB here and see what might turn up... :)
metallik
> This came through Google, so no way of knowing if it's from Wayne or anyone
> at his company. Could be a troll post from anywhere.
Actually, no... it is indeed wayne's google profile, meaning it was
posted from wayne's account (which requires wayne's password). Check
the history of the profile. Trolls will have no history (or a history
of trolling.. of course.. well, this IS wayne.. so technically it
is a troll :)
metallik
> would defend? I see NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Erm.. Expat has no redeeming qualities either. Birds of a
feather :)
cody chunn
--
-cody
--CARGPB4
"metallik" <Larry...@dlptech.com> wrote in message
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Abby Normal
You know, I don't think there is a force on earth that will convince
me to give that man another cent after reading stuff like that. That
is no way to treat customers. There is no excuse.
Abby Normal
> >Last time I checked PBR don't carry CV or MM decals.
>
> Then do without?
I'm happy to do without, I don't play the decals.
Lloyd Olson
name and email address, post on RGP, and when it appears on Google, it
treats it like it came from Wayne. view profile and you get it and all of
wayne's posts.
"metallik" <Larry...@dlptech.com> wrote in message
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basd...@hotmail.com
promises of the MM being done for the past three years.....
greatw...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> Somebody ought to be figuring out a way to sue him over the false
> promises of the MM being done for the past three years.....
The posts are likely real, since i get the emails both from wayne
himself & sales@ the last couple of years. I am under his orders not
to contact him or his company. So if this was another imagination on
my part, he can post it here. Same with his new lawyers.
Taylor-VA
three years so
I'm not going to flame the guy as I feel as I would be a bit of a
hypocrite.
Anyone knowingly put TPF products in their machines want to justify
why they buy his stuff
yet tear him to shreds when the thread is right?
How far are people willing to go?
How about an honest head count of those with TPF products in their
pins?
How about all those AFM playfields?
All the plastic sets?
All the decals?
etc,etc,.........
c...@provide.net
As the owner of 25 WPC machines and the owner
of sys11 and solidstate bally and wms games,
i have ZERO kangaroo parts in my games.
I do have a canadian BK playfield, but it's a mere
wall hanging.
How do i do this? I buy from Pinball Resource!
It's really that simple. If you get it from Steve,
there's a 99.999% chance it did not come thru
wayno. And if you try and buy a part from steve
that is kangaroo based, he will tell you before you
buy it.
It's not hard to avoid wayne. you just gotta be
mindful of it and ask. There are alternatives out
there. You just have to ask.
metallik
"metallik" <Larry...@dlptech.com> wrote in message
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Lloyd Olson
No apologies necessary after you check the profile on Google. You will be
buying the beer at Expo. LTG :)
"metallik" <Larry...@dlptech.com> wrote in message
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TMFP
Urrmm
as far as I know, the only part that Wayne has actually made in his
'Factory' are some coils
he has also said he owns a printing works and a company that makes vac-
formed plastics (ramps)
MOST of his parts are made by the same people that Williams used all
those years ago
those companies are in the USA
Other companies are making stuff under licence from either TPF or IPB
Ron Strom
@e25g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, Taylo...@gmail.com says...
have and never will buy anything that Wayne has a hand in making
or licensing regardless of who sells it.
You make your choices and you live with them. It's a matter of
principle. After all... "It's only pinball".
--
Ron -- CARGPB7 -- ron...@hothouse.net - (Change hot to ice to
email)
american...@hotmail.com
> Actually yes. You change your account info in outlook express to wayne's
> name and email address, post on RGP, and when it appears on Google, it
> treats it like it came from Wayne. view profile and you get it and all of
> wayne's posts.
>
>
> news:a6bb080b-d58e-4a8a...@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 5, 1:49 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
>
> > This came through Google, so no way of knowing if it's from Wayne or
> > anyone
> > at his company. Could be a troll post from anywhere.
>
> Actually, no... it is indeed wayne's google profile, meaning it was
> posted from wayne's account (which requires wayne's password). Check
> the history of the profile. Trolls will have no history (or a history
> of trolling.. of course.. well, this IS wayne.. so technically it
> is a troll :)
Heh, heh, heh. I guess we need a moderator to verify the ISP of the
sales@ poster. It would be interesting to see how true or fake this
stuff is.
Kenbo
AFM? My AFM is gorgeous. Instead of decals I touched up a pretty nice
original cabinet, had a playfield restored by HEP, paid extra for NOS
plastics and original jiggly martians, found a very nice used lobster
ramp and bought weldments from Kerry Stair.
The down under dolt hasn't received one cent from me. It's possible
that some of the pins I've bought have had his parts but I don't think
so. I also haven't bought from the biggest pusher of TPF parts in CA
for a few years largely because of dufus.
Instead, I restore, pay extra for NOS, wait until something useful
used comes available, make my own, find an underground repro, or do
without. Pinball isn't worth dealing with him and I'm doing my part to
defund the dolt.
Ron Strom
@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com>, themanf...@hotmail.com
says...
The point is that if Wayne is going to make even one cent on it,
I ain't buyin'.
Taylor-VA
must say that I am sure there are those that haven't.
I for one have never had a horse in the TPF race nor have
seen the energy spent on it to be very beneficial.
Don't CPR and other repro companies have to pay a price for doing
certain Bally/Williams titles?
Do any of these companies do business with TPF?
cody chunn
This may change if a playfield comes along from one of his "partners" that I
can't resist.
Still, even if one has bought from him it does not preclude one from
detecting that he is on the evolutionary level of pond scum (apparently
swimming alongside Gary Stern if certain accusations are to be believed...),
and on an ethical level all to his own. How low can you go?!?
:0)
--
-cody
--CARGPB4
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TheKorn
news:vpKdndnD_uW7Wf_U...@skypoint.com:
> See Larry, I was you, briefly.
Only problem is...
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
...no you weren't. (On the surface, sure. A little bit below? Nope.)
--
Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
web or on DVD?
Lloyd Olson
on Google where if you click that next to the name that nothing would come
up for a troll, and my fake Larry post shows that if you click profile next
to his name on Google, his posts come up. LTG :)
"TheKorn" <The...@TheKorn.Net> wrote in message
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Pistol Pete
news:vpKdndnD_uW7Wf_U...@skypoint.com...
> See Larry, I was you, briefly.
>
> No apologies necessary after you check the profile on Google. You will be
> buying the beer at Expo. LTG :)
Ahh, but a check of the properties for metallik's post shows the IP address
of 72.49.51.92... Your test post shows as 69.71.160.15... Fuse.net vs.
Visionary Communications for providers. Checking the history of posts for
someone who has done more than a few posts would show the discrepancy. :-)
Pistol Pete
Baltimore, Maryland
P.S.
With a linux-based box you could even fake that IP address. :-)
Pistol Pete
>When the first person sent him a deposit under the promise they would
> receive a pinball machine in exchange, like it or not, Wayne became a
> bonified
> pinball machine manufacturer.
Not necessarily. To be a bonafide pinball machine manufacturer you actually
have to build the product. After three years I'd be saying "bonafide con
artist" or "thief", depending upon one's point of view. Mahoff for the win.
Even government contractors can at least deliver rnment a nice fireball and
box of charred parts at some point in time and simply say, "Whoops, didn't
work!"
Pistol Pete
Baltimore, Maryland
Former way-no post virgin :)
Lloyd Olson
Google and no troll posts would show up as Wayne's. But if you check my fake
posts profile next to the name on Google, all of Larry's posts come up. LTG
:)
"Pistol Pete" <lo...@mypost.com> wrote in message
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metallik
> Actually yes. You change your account info in outlook express to wayne's
> name and email address, post on RGP, and when it appears on Google, it
> treats it like it came from Wayne. view profile and you get it and all of
> wayne's posts.
Actually, no. Wayne's post also contains this information:
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 06:41:19 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
Injection-Info: z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-
host=60.230.104.51;
posting-account=mkvAZQkAAADZ4H0az4jayUBGozktHSjP
That last bit is Google's own information, used to uniquely identify
its own posters. A post from a newsreader would list a different
server and not contain Wayne's account ID.
metallik
> Not if you are digging a little. Larry remarked about checking the profile
> on Google where if you click that next to the name that nothing would come
> up for a troll, and my fake Larry post shows that if you click profile next
> to his name on Google, his posts come up. LTG :)
You faked the wrong profile - that one is my standard newsreader
account, not a Google account. You CAN fool google into showing
someone else's profile with the link, but I don't think you can fake
another google account
Lloyd Olson
"metallik" <Larry...@dlptech.com> wrote in message
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Milt
>
> Uh oh. Did you read the confidentiality statement at the bottom of
> his e-mail!?
>
> I sense a C&D coming your way soon ;)
Yeah, he si going to sue him and then make him sign a non-disclosure
agreement after he settles out of court for a gazillion-jillion dollars!
Milt
> If you guys keep it up he may not make the MM's or CC's or Croc
> Hunter.Ha Ha Ha
Too late!
Milt
> On Jan 5, 1:43 pm, Chris <chr...@wpi.edu> wrote:
>> He might want to hire a customer service rep with all his millions of
>> dollars.
>
>
>
> Personality transplant or donor would be a better use of funds.
I was thinking maybe a surgery to remove his cranium from his rectum.
Milt
>
> What in the world could there possibly be about Wayno thet you like or
> would defend? I see NO redeeming qualities whatsoever. Have you met
> the guy or talked with him personnaly and know something we dont?
I'm sure Wayne is doing him... special favors... *wink wink nudge nudge*
SAY NO MORE!
Magic Mike
> name and email address
Clever, however, the IP address never changes.
Mike
Jay Moore
but the question is, do most people even know how to properly read
email headers
for spoofed emails. if you happen to have the same ISP as this wayne
fellow,
it'd be almost impossible to tell.
luther r
> email headers
> for spoofed emails. if you happen to have the same ISP as this wayne
> fellow,
> it'd be almost impossible to tell.
Consider also the fact that IPs change quite often with some ISPs. With
Comcast, mine changes about 6 times a year. When I had AT&T DSL, it
changed 4 times a month. So just following the IP address doesn't
necessarily help.
Even if the poster had a static IP at work, he could be posting from
home, or a laptop at the coffee shop.
luther
Sam
But one can trace the ip to a location (Australia). In any case, all
that post did was confirm to everyone what they already knew or felt or
suspect about him. Nothing new or unexpected.
Sam
metallik
> yah yah yah, you still are buying the beer. :)
Actually, I was wrong.. it looks like it did indeed fake the google
profile (at least in the show profile link - the IP and headers still
show it was you). Shame on Google for not controlling this. So,
check those headers :)
Lloyd Olson
"metallik" <Larry...@dlptech.com> wrote in message
news:f50a259b-a727-4300...@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Expat
> In article <eac938e4-13f8-4382-b5a8-77b79f145...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> Expat says...
>
>
>
> >But I guess if yer that desperate to join the Wayne hating wacko
> >club,have at it
> >Those guys will believe ANYTHING ;)
>
> ... except the notion that Wayne is building complete MM pinball machines. Even
> us fan clubs have a limit to what we will believe in. :-)
>
> --
> Kyle Wren - CARGPB #27
> "Back by Popular Demand - Happy Kyle!"
Touche Turtle to ya ;)
Expat
> > What in the world could there possibly be about Wayno thet you like or
> > would defend? I see NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.
>
> feather :)
Better than studs of leather...uhh wherever you prefer them.........
Expat
> Ha! Second that!!
>
> --
> -cody
> --CARGPB4> news:9008bd7c-aa87-4b40...@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com...>> What in the world could there possibly be about Wayno thet you like or
> >> would defend? I see NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.
>
> > Erm.. Expat has no redeeming qualities either. Birds of a
> > feather :)
You have to be able to count beyond two to use the "nummers"
LOL! You guys are "regular" to say the least
Do ya all take yer "fiber" at the same time...
Lessee.....TPF/Wayne post
Metallick,Cody,Lil Miltie,Kenbo,Ron...did I miss anybody???
The Hammer
up with the business and political end of pinball very well. There are only
bits and pieces on the web. To help those of us who have not, could you
please bring us up to date?
As far as I can tell:
Williams sold the parts / reproduction business to Illinois Pinball Company.
Williams then sold the rights to make the Williams games to Wayne Gillard
who started The Pinball Factory in Australia.
Stern is not too happy as they figure they will lose business if TPF starts
making pins.
TPF has made nothing, but has taken deposits on MM pins.
There are a lot of people who do not like Wayne Gillard. More info would be
appreciated.
Lots of lawsuits by who against who?
I am guessing that making repro parts for Williams games is now running
afoul of those two companies that have purchased the rights.
Any more useful information or links?
Thanks.
BTW, if the below email is authentic, I am amazed. I have a hard time
believing that anyone could be so stupid to put something like this in
print.
in article
c74c4bce-1365-4120...@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com, yetterben
at yett...@yahoo.com wrote on 1/4/09 6:27 PM:
> Emailed him to ask him whats up with MM and asking why so harsh on the
> sueing issue. Here is what i got in return.
>
> We have sued heaps of people but they shit themselves and settle
> before court the weak pricks they are. Thats fine as they pay all our
> legal fees and costs + Damages, they sign non disclosures thats why
> you never hear about it. I have more money than you ever will my poor
> Buddy. I control your little hobby, If i need more money i will just
> increase my prices again. Wayne Gillard
> The Pinball Factory
> www.pinball.com
>
>
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