Re: Varkon For Sale? Florida
Troy
just to give you an idea. I'm not interested by the way.
But I'm sure someone here will be.
Troy,
<studio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I know some one with a real nice Varkon that they may wish to sell in
> Florida. The right dollar figure will probably motivate them. I can
> tell you it is real nice and all original. It works all the way as
> well. If you are interested, let me know what your price range is for
> something like this and if it is reasonable, I will help make the deal
> happen for you. I will get pics for someone who is very serious and has
> the ability to follow through with the purchase of something like this.
> It's a 15 mile drive for me to get pics so please only serious
> inquiries.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
Studiobassist
wasn't making any cash on the deal, I was just helping out a client and
maybe getting a collector in here a super rare game. It seemed people
thought I should go get them pictures, 30 miles round trip in terrible
traffic before they would tell me if they had the money to buy
something like this. I know they will want over $2500 and I have seen
them sell for a lot more. One guy assumed that I should already have
pics of this if it was a serious for sale item. Sure, I carry a camera
with me everywhere I go. I guess we are all Japanese tourists here in
Florida.
Here's the deal, I went to go do some repair work for a client. They
said they would be willing to sell the Varkon for the right price. They
don't have a digital camera and are older folks, I do but didn't have
it at the time. I went home and posted...
(I know some one with a real nice Varkon that they may wish to sell in
Florida. The right dollar figure will probably motivate them. I can
tell you it is real nice and all original. It works all the way as
well. If you are interested, let me know what your price range is for
something like this and if it is reasonable, I will help make the deal
happen for you. I will get pics for someone who is very serious and has
the ability to follow through with the purchase of something like this.
It's a 15 mile drive for me to get pics so please only serious
inquiries.)
Notice how I asked what the price range was? How hard is it to say $500
for crap to $3500 for mint? I guess everyone who responded had an issue
with that. So nobody from the groups will get this. This is the last
time I will offer a score like this to anyone in here just because of
the stupid people I had respond. Some of the people that did offer
pricing were so low it was funny. Sure, let me drive 30 miles to get
you pictures for a $100 price that will be laughed at on the other end.
It's not worth my time to try to hook anyone up with this anymore so if
you have been looking, sorry, keep looking. Thank the bone heads in
here for your loss.
Thanks,
Todd
win...@earthlink.net
Boo HOO !!!
30 whole F*cking miles round trip - how will you ever afford the gas
??! If you want to facilitate a sale with that kind of money involved
you better be ready to follow through.... I don't think my offer of
$1500.00 was too bad - sight unseen. In fact, if you can't be bothered
to provide pictures don't even bother posting FOR SALE! No one is
going to commit $2500.00 for a machine they haven't seen and be
expected to take your word on it's condition. One thing I've learned
in this hobby is that one man's description of MINT condition or
EXCELLENT condition is not necessarily MY description of MINT. So
Com'on man, get real, get a clue and go take some DAMN pictures if you
wanna sell this thing. Quite your bitching and get off your ass.
Selling something for thousands of dollars will require at least a
little effort on your part -
If you can't provide proof of it's condition than why post in public
forum how annoyed you are that no one would commit $2500 to purchase
it? Would you spend $2500 to purchase something you've never seen?
Regards,
Bone Head Idiots
Studiobassist
would be willing to pay $2500 + for the a mint condition machine before
I waste my time driving to get pics. Read the original post you
jackass. The right dollar figure would motivate them and let me know
your price range for something like this. Learn how to take in
information for what it means you retard. You have just outed yourself
as one of the boneheads. Again you loser, I never asked for a
commitment.
Maybe you have the time to drive all over town but I don't. Maybe I
just have a life and family responsibilities and you are some jackass
that jerks off on his keyboard all day.
Fuck you very much,
Todd
Studiobassist
pics if that was the best you could do. Again, I clarified you weren't
making an offer, you were giving me a range so I would know if you were
serious or not. I could care less if the machine sells. I was trying to
do a collector and the operator a favor and not have my time wasted at
the same time. So again, fuck you.
Todd
Cayle George
pics already taken. Everyone will want to see them, you'll have to take
them eventually for the serious buyers....
Studiobassist
was one interested party to say I'm willing to pay between $500 and
$3000 depending on condition. At least then I know the game might sell
so I will help the sale along. There are probably only 40 of these
machines left in the world and I have no problem saying this has to be
on of the nicest. But hey, if you can get one on the corner easily then
you don't have to follow my guidlines. If you are sitting back with no
money and you want me to get you pictures, pay me gas and my $50 per
hour fee. Otherwise it's very simple, what are you willing to pay for
something like this and if It is not a stupid low price, I will help
you the buyer and the seller hook up. Too late now because of a couple
idiots. What else can I say.
Todd
seymour...@excite.com
your cut going to be out of that $2500? Only way I figure you're this
pissed off at the boneheads here is if you had some financial interest
in it.
win...@earthlink.net
requirement was $2500.00? I don't see that little notation anywhere
in there?
win...@earthlink.net
that I might be willing to change the offer once I see the condition
with the pictures. But for some reason that wasn't good enough for
you. So you can take your Varkon and shove it up your ass - sideways.
MarcelG
marcel
Studiobassist
that could fuck up a free lunch responding including Steve. Again, no
financial gain. Didn't I already say that? If there was a monetary gain
I wouldn't have become so pissed. It seems like flying off the handle
would be the last thing you would do when trying to sell something,
sales 101. I just can't imagine when you try to help out so called
collectors with a very rare game for no gain, them treating you like
you are peddling a Pacman. And yes, I felt leaving the $2500 price out
of the first post was warranted. Why show you the owners cards right
from the start? I'm done with this so I won't continue posting on this
subject anymore.
Thanks all,
Todd
Studiobassist
would be willing to pay $2500 plus for a really nice one and you had a
problem answering that. Like I am going to drive 30 miles for a guy who
has a shit attitude in his responses to me. Fuck you.
Todd
pinballjim
$2,500 for that POS? You'd better go get a $75 digital camera if you
expect that kind of money.
pinballjim
What do you care if you have no financial interest in this deal?
Unless you're trying to get some rep as Mr. "look at me, I can find
rare stuff and pass it along at no profit", I have trouble believing
you're being entirely altruistic.
Studiobassist
go as high as $6000 myself. The average seems to be around $3000 in a
public market. Less if you happen to find one at a Super Auction.
Todd
Studiobassist
for is a client of mine that I have done very well with. That is why I
care. They would be happy if I brought them a buyer and I would be in
very good standing with them so that is why I was doing this. Not
everyone is a snake. Maybe you find it hard to look at the things you
do and believe that someone else would do something different.
Todd
pinballjim
Ahh.... so you're a short tempered ass kisser. Good to know!
Studiobassist
would like video as well?:) This is really getting old.
Todd
Studiobassist
everything in my life.
Todd
pinballjim
In marketing class, we learn that only people without a lot of money
spend what they have on name brands. The more money you have,
typically the smarter about it you get. It's real interesting, go
check out the selection at a supermarket in the rich part of town.
The less affluent tend to get more satisfaction out of a name brand, as
it makes them feel more successful and they can show it off to their
peers. One way is to constantly brag about what everything cost.
Lloyd Olson
times a year on Ebay for around $1200 to $1500. Hard to find, but not that
rare, and not much fun to play. More of a novelty piece.
"Studiobassist" <studio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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win...@earthlink.net
$1500 sight unseen? It doesn't get any more serious than that. At
least not with me in pinball.
You had a serious offer (sounds like the only one) and you skoffed at
it... so go away.
You were supposed to stop posting 4 posts ago......
someotherguy
<studio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Huh? Then why are you still posting?
The "take-away" maneuver of offering to sell it, then telling us it's
not available anymore.. REEKS of grade-school. So do your
spittle-flinging temper tantrums. C'mon man. It's just pinball.
Richard
Studiobassist
find when you want one.
Thanks,
Todd
pinballjim
pics, too! Maybe even from a Sony Trapezoidal Super Deluxe LS-5000
camera that cost $895 plus 8% tax and you got the $50 warranty cause
Sony got your back.
Studiobassist
the $75 digital camera comment. It is not meant to read into any
further.
Todd
Studiobassist
offers to begin with. How can I ask for offers on something without
having pics? I asked what your range was. Why don't you post our string
of e-mails to show the people where your lack of communication skills
caused your deal to breakdown?
Todd
Studiobassist
Todd
Studiobassist
I pulled it and said that there were a bunch of retards that e-mailed
me. If the level of professionalism of this groups is a direct
reflection of the e-mails I received, I will never try to hook anybody
up on a collectible piece again in these groups. Steve Winslow is one
of those retards. That is why he came out firing.
As proof that I am not profiting on the machine, watch eBay, you won't
see it, ask the groups, nobody bought it.
The next time I do a service call I will take pics and post them. That
way you can see the Varkon that got away. If you really wanted this
game and you fucked the deal up, that should bother you. If you were
just browsing, I'm glad I didn't make a special trip to get you
pictures.
Todd
someotherguy
deal, you handled it miserably, and you're pissed off about it. Quit
trying to hang the "no longer available" machine over everyone's heads
because pretty much nobody cares. Your 15 minutes of fame are up.
Richard
On 18 Oct 2005 11:32:03 -0700, "Studiobassist"
pinballjim
What amazes me is that this guy talks like he runs his own business!
You'd think he was used to bending over backwards and squeezing a buck
out of people, but he's apparently doing so well he can blow off the
majority of his customers!
I must be in the wrong business!
Studiobassist
it was in my garage, I would already have pics of it. I stated the
facts and details of the transaction and assholes like yourself and
others went on a retard rampage. Nobody wanted to step up and say yes,
I would pay good money for that game if it is in the condition you say
it is, I'll be waiting on pics. Is that so hard? I don't think so.
Again, you want a rare game, jump through a fucking hoop. It really
should be no big deal. I've done some crazy things in the past to find
games. Everyone wants pictures but nobody wants to say they can pay the
money for the machine once I provide them pics. I won't waste my time
getting the pics then. Do you think I want a bunch of losers calling up
my client to offer him stupid amonts of money and tell him the machine
is worthless? Do I want to publicly announce where this game is located
along with some other gems? Fuck no!
Yes you guy's who wanted this game and e-mailed me stupid offers when I
didn't ask for offers fucked up. It's as simple as that. Nobody gets
the game and I am happy with that.
Todd
Studiobassist
What's your point? Would you like me to send you over my rate sheet for
my printing and mailing business via .pdf? Maybe you need a direct mail
promotion to promote in hard copy how much of a dick your are.
Todd
pinballjim
Oh, c'mon, you're just pissed you didn't get some sucker to offer you
$4,000 for it so you could skim $2,000 off the top and make your
"client" happy.
Maybe if you were a better salesman, you'd get your shit together
rather than requiring a mandatory "enflate my ego" session before you'd
limp 15 miles to take pictures. But hey, just keep opening those
businesses until one is successful.
Varkon - guess what, most of us have played it. It's not a great game,
but it's rare. Rare games that aren't very fun sell at a premium, but
not much of one. Sorry you didn't get your super collector red carpet
treatment.
metallik
> others went on a retard rampage.
"Everyone went on a retard rampage except me!!!"
> I would pay good money for that game if it is in the condition you say
> it is, I'll be waiting on pics. Is that so hard? I don't think so.
Apparently it was, since you threw away a $1500 sight-unseen offer that
could only get better once you had pics. Duh.
> money for the machine once I provide them pics. I won't waste my time
> getting the pics then. Do you think I want a bunch of losers calling up
> my client to offer him stupid amonts of money and tell him the machine
Well, only if you were stupid enough to give those stupid losers your
client's phone number.
You *sure* you've done this before?
> Yes you guy's who wanted this game and e-mailed me stupid offers when I
> didn't ask for offers fucked up. It's as simple as that. Nobody gets
> the game and I am happy with that.
For the 99.5% of us here who have no interest whatsoever in the game,
your making a fool of yourself here was mildly entertaining, so it's
not a complete waste :)
Studiobassist
Productions, was bought for a decent chunk of change. I had clients
like F.S.U. , N.F.L. Players Club, and Katherine Harris, Secretary of
State to name a few. What have you done Jim? Did you win a contest for
shooting pinballs out of your ass or something?
pinballjim
Had the intregity not to work for someone like Katherine Harris, for
one.
kirb
Studiobassist wrote:
>Did you win a contest for shooting pinballs out of your ass or something?
Out is easy. Anyone could do that.
Kirb
Studiobassist
$1500 offer because my client would have laughed. Why drive 30 miles in
shit traffic when I don't have on guy that has showed sincere
interest??????? I asked after Steve sent an offer if he could provide a
price range based on condition that would at least top out at $2500 for
a super nice game. Steve went on a tear after that and made assumptions
that these people were friends of mine and that I should already have
pics if this was a serious game for sale. Wrong! Everyone go back to
the second post and read over again my original post. Look at the title
of this thread, Varkon For Sale?, it has a question mark you dumb
bastards. I swear there are some stupid people in these groups. Again,
why did I bother trying to get someone a rare game like this? It really
makes no sense on my part. Fuck you all.
Todd
metallik
> price range based on condition that would at least top out at $2500 for
> a super nice game. Steve went on a tear after that and made assumptions
Of course he did. You post of a game that "might" be for sale, fishing
for offers, without even one picture of the game in question. He sends
you a legit sight-unseen offer. You return with more fishing for an
even higher price, still without even one picture. Of course he's
going to tell you to go fuck yourself at that point. Anyone would.
Your way of doing 'business' is stupid. I bet you were the kid who took
his ball(varkon) home and pouted when you couldn't get along with the
other kids, eh?
> of this thread, Varkon For Sale?, it has a question mark you dumb
> bastards. I swear there are some stupid people in these groups. Again,
"Wahh! Everyone here is stupid except me!"
> why did I bother trying to get someone a rare game like this? It really
> makes no sense on my part. Fuck you all.
So far, *nothing* you have done has made any sense. But, if that "fuck
you all" means that you'll finally stop posting/whining, more power to
you.
Studiobassist
and a range based on condition was asked for? Are you that dumb? How
stupid would someone have to be to offer $1500 sight unseen for
something? I NEVER ASKED FOR OFFERS FOR THE GAME WITH NO
PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I asked for a range based on condition. I guess
you can't understand this.
I am only defending my position and so far you guy's keep thinking that
I was looking for something that I wasn't. If he said, yes I will pay
up to x amount for the right machine, I would have taken pictures and
helped make the deal happen. It's as simple as that. (PERIOD)
pinballjim
Not any dumber that you thinking that POS was worth $2,500.
Sure hope you didn't promise the owners a lot, because you've certainly
proved you can't deliver.
JCZ
I hate to sell these but I can use some extra cash right now. If you
are interested, please call me at xxx-yyy-??? or e-mail studiobassist
AT hotmail.com.
metallik
> PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I asked for a range based on condition. I guess
> you can't understand this.
So.. you've spent a dozen posts screaming because you got "an offer"
instead of "a range of offers."
Oh, wait.. "based on condition" .. lessee, what's the easiest way to
convey the condition of a game to a buyer? Everyone together now:
PICTURES!
> I am only defending my position and so far you guy's keep thinking that
Actually, you haven't defended much of anything. What you *have* done
is make yourself look like an ass insulting everyone here just because
your fishing expedition sank faster than the SS Minnow.
> I was looking for something that I wasn't.
And that just about sums things up. Let us know when you've found
it...
bmill...@yahoo.com
Studiobassist wrote:
> You've got me pegged. The last company I owned, Digital Media
> Productions, was bought for a decent chunk of change. I had clients
> like F.S.U. , N.F.L. Players Club, and Katherine Harris, Secretary of
> State to name a few.
Funny...The Florida Corporations Registry at the Secretary of State's
Office lists the Director of that Corporation as "Robert Hickey," not
"Todd." Digital Media Productions was incorporated in September 2001
and administratively dissolved about one year later. Guess it was an
overnight success.
look it up here -- http://www.sunbiz.org
Studiobassist
condition? I'm sure you have. I asked the buyer to give me that range
and what he would be willing to pay. Again, why should I jump in my car
and drive 30 miles for someone who just wants to look at a nice
picture? Really, I wasn't planning on making any money for this but I
also wasn't planning on dealing with the cheap losers that e-mailed me
as well. Let me know if you are a player and I will produce the goods.
It really is simple. Maybe if I wrote it down for you in your coloring
book you could grasp the concept?
someotherguy
<studio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I thought it wasn't available anymore? Quit changing your mind. Just
say it's not available anymore, and crawl back into your hole, please.
Richard
Studiobassist
myself to the village tard.
Todd
pinballjim
So, let me get this straight.
You're a successful businessman that has high profile clients and $800
digital cameras.
You've found some Varkon and there's two options:
1. Buy it super cheap from the owners and flip it. 15 miles for $1,000
profit, give me a break. Even YOU don't have enough money to turn that
away.
2. Try to impress the owners by how much money you can get them for it,
only to get embarassed because nobody wants it.
1 is something a businessman would do. 2 is something an idiot would
do. Oh well.
someotherguy
of amusing to whack the mole again, just to see him pop right back up
out of the SAME DAMN HOLE! You'd think he'd learn, but he doesn't!
Richard
On 18 Oct 2005 14:37:48 -0700, "Studiobassist"
metallik
"Let me know if you are a player and I will produce the goods."
However, in a reply to "I thought it wasn't available anymore?",
Studiobassist wrote:
"It isn't. You are boring me now so this is over. No reason to defend
myself to the village tard."
That's almost as good as the "I was looking for something that I
wasn't" comment.
Suggestion: save the hard drugs til after you're done posting. Or
don't .. this is actually kinda funny :)
Studiobassist
assholes in the news groups. If I could buy the Varkon cheap I would. I
have a lot of hard to find stuff. I don't like Varkon! I don't want it.
I never said the game was for sale again either. I was letting you know
my thought process of shit or get off the pot at the time I was
offering this. Again, I was just trying to help someone out by making
the connection of buyer and seller without effort on my part because I
wasn't making anything on the deal. Don't you think if I stood a chance
to make money on the deal I would have jumped in my car a took the
pictures. Come on, think before you spew shit out of your mouth. Who
wouldn't drive 30 miles for $1000 or even $400 dollars?
Losers.
Fred Kemper
one odd fellow..... :/
Why DID you come here?
--
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
******************
"Studiobassist" <studio...@hotmail.com> wrote
Studiobassist
is worth. Remember, I never asked for an offer. Start at the bottom and
read to the top. Steve is an asshole plain and simple and I know that's
how some of you tards need it, simple.
"Todd,
No problem. I think if you/they were serious about selling it than
you'd already have the pictures... I don't want to put you in position
where you have to drive a whole 30 miles! Seems like if you're their
friend that it wouldn't be a big deal to go over there and take those
pictures - as a favor to your friend...
If you eventually get a chance and obtain those pictures, host 'em and
send me the links. Then I can be in a position to make another offer
comfortably. Otherwise, good luck on the sale.
Steve
At 10:57 AM 10/16/2005, you wrote:
It really is simple, would you pay $2500 plus dollars for the game
if it is to the standards you are looking for? If you can't answer that
simple question, I am not going to drive 30 miles to get pictures. I'm
not making a dime on this so it is really a favor to them and the
person buying the machine. So if you are willing to pay over $2500 for
the right machine, I will do you and them the favor of making the
connection otherwise, nevermind. Check my eBay feedback user id
todd-the-great. Search my group postings history. Remember, you aren't
making an offer, you are giving me the price range from low to high. If
you are only willing to go to $2000 for a nice example, it's not worth
me getting the pics together. I know they will want over that amount
for this machine. It is really, really nice.
Todd
From: Steven Winslow <win...@earthlink.net>
To: "Spunky Spunkmiester" <studio...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Varkon For Sale? Florida
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:00:07 -0700
Todd,
I'm not saying that I wouldn't raise my offer. But without good
pictures I can't in good faith offer $2500.00 - without seeing it.
Would you spend $2500 on anything without seeing it first? If they
really want to sell it and you really want to be their "agent" then
your gonna have to make the trip. I'm interested, serious and capable
of making a real offer. I can handle my own shipping too. Shoot me
some pictures and I'll let you know what I am comfortable with paying.
Steve
At 08:32 AM 10/16/2005, you wrote:
That's pretty low for this game. If you would be willing to go over
$2500 for a really nice Varkon then I will get pics for you. They don't
have a digital camera or e-mail so I have to make a 30 mile round trip
to get the pics. I have seen these in worse condition go for over
$3000. They know what they have as well.
Thanks,
Todd
From: win...@earthlink.net
To: "studio...@hotmail.com" <studio...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Varkon For Sale? Florida
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:06:14 -0700
Hey Todd,
I'd really have to see the pictures to make a serious offer. But sight
unseen I'd probably be willing to offer $1500.00 assuming that it is
very nice.
If you can send the pictures then I may be able to modify my offer
slightly.
Steve
studio...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I know some one with a real nice Varkon that they may wish to sell in
> Florida. The right dollar figure will probably motivate them. I can
> tell you it is real nice and all original. It works all the way as
> well. If you are interested, let me know what your price range is for
> something like this and if it is reasonable, I will help make the deal
> happen for you. I will get pics for someone who is very serious and has
> the ability to follow through with the purchase of something like this.
> It's a 15 mile drive for me to get pics so please only serious
> inquiries.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd "
Cayle George
Troy
I don't see what went wrong with you guys.
Todd, your only problem was that you should have started with that $2500
price up front.
Steve, if you were really interested in paying the $2500, why not just say
that you could go that for the right game? or say I cant go that on it,
right when and there.
at least that way you could have gotten him over there to take the pics.
if it was what you were looking for great!, if not at that point you could
just say. sorry it's not what I expected and a cant go that on it.
and who knows, you may have just wanted it.
I can see where Todd is trying to show you he's legit by furnishing his ebay
id.
and he's probably not making anything on it by the way he's acting, he
doesn't want to waste his time either. problem is the seller knows or thinks
he has something valuable.
Todd, next time I would recommend staying away from deals like this. when a
seller knows what he was and your not making anything. to much hassle to
sell something, let alone not making something on it.
Try to score something for yourself next time, if it doesn't work out for
you then pass it up.
maybe next time you cant flip a pin and make some $. nothing wrong with
that, we have all done it.
Troy,
"Studiobassist" <studio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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kirb
Studiobassist wrote:
> Here are mine and Steve's e-mails back and forth. Take it for what it
> is worth. Remember, I never asked for an offer. Start at the bottom and
> read to the top. Steve is an asshole plain and simple and I know that's
> how some of you tards need it, simple.
...emails deleted.....
Wow, I read the buyers emails and think- yep, that's what I would have
said too. A guy put out an offer with no info. You refused to get more
info for your friends, so why even bother? You should have not even
posted one for sale if you expected people to actually know what they
were getting. They are supposed to trust YOU? You don't seem to trust
them.
15 miles? come on. Now that I see the emails back and forth I can for
sure say that YOU are the problem here.
"Hey, I have this thing you want. I won't take less than a premium
price, and NO I won't get you more info...and after I get pissed I'm
going to constantly bash you and everyone else on a newsgroup" Yea,
sign me up for that. Salesman you are not.
Kirb
someotherguy
<studio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Check my eBay feedback user id todd-the-great.
Paydirt! Another pain-in-the-ass to toss into the bozo bin. : )
> Search my group postings history.
For what? We can pretty much see it all right here in this thread.
Richard
Fred Kemper
Clipped from your post:
Studiobassist wrote:
> Here are mine and Steve's e-mails back and forth. Take it for what it
> is worth. Remember, I never asked for an offer.>
At 10:57 AM 10/16/2005, you wrote:
"It really is simple, would you pay $2500 plus dollars for the
game
if it is to the standards you are looking for? "
In my book, that's an "offer". Not as bad as a Nigerian
perhaps, but it does reek of suspicion as you are a stranger
to most in these parts at least.
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
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Tony the Squid
does he say that for sure the true owners would let it go for any
price, he seems to be assuming that $2500 is the magic number. Lol, I
know where there is a dr who in a local pub, make me an offer on it and
I'll take it to the owners, but the $$$ better be high enough to make
it worth my while.
Rian
Brian Smith
picture of the game that isn't online already, doesn't even have to be a
'good' picture.
No digital camera, that's no excuse. For $5 or so you can take a picture
with a real film camera and have it digitally processed from any wal-mart in
the usa I've seen with a 3-day turnaround time -- 1 hr developing is more
expensive of course. If you want $2500 maybe you should think about taking
a single snapshot - doesn't have to be a bunch of pics - one should show
enough for the buyer to at least decide if the deal should be pursued or
not, and you can send the same picture to all interested buyers too, so that
15-mile trip and all that time would be a one off investment in the future
sale of the machine.
"Tony the Squid" <rianla...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129730530.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Studiobassist
least $2500 to motivate them to sell. I wanted to know that I wasn't
wasting my time going 30 miles for someone who wasn't willing or able
to pay that. Again, it's not an easy to find game so if your a serious
buyer you should be able to say, the right machine I would pay up to
$2500. I can tell you I will pay up to $2500 for the right Warrior.
I'll pay up to $3500 for the right Major Havoc Dedicated. I will pay up
to $1500 for the right Quantum. Is that an offer, no. I would have
wrote the $2500 min in the original post, I just thought that someone
may come in there or higher.
I'll get pics the next time I am out there, may not be for a while
though. Again if I was making money on the deal please believe I would
have jumped in my car and drove over there to get pics before posting.
If you want to see my groups history, that's easy do the search. For
the added security I even added in my eBay id todd-the-great. Check
that out to and e-mail me there, I will respond. I have like 255 or so
positive feedbacks.
Look if all of these people see something wrong with what I did
then........... I think you are all dumb bastards! - Just kidding. You
must be right and I am wrong. The main thing that was in the back of my
mind is, really rare game and that someone wouldn't mind saying they
are willing to pay good money for it. If I thought people would think
they were making a commitment to a purchase without even seeing the
machine I would have just waited until the next time I go out there to
get the pics. Here's the deal, I have lost a lot of games in the past
by not moving on them right away. When I posted in here I was moving on
someone from the groups getting this before another operator or someone
that these people may know. They have had people over the years offer
them money for the machine and they turned them down. Again, since I
was not making a dime on it, I wasn't going to go out of my way for
someone who wouldn't be able to at least say, I would pay up to $2500
for the Varkon. That's it.
Sorry for the confusion.
Todd
kirb
Studiobassist wrote:
> All of you guy's miss the point.
Actually, you are the one missing the point. Sure, we could have said
anything to you to get photos, but we didn't. I'm not even sure why you
are getting in the middle of this sale. The owners don't seem all that
motivated to sell and you don't have any vested interest in the game.
..way over priced vid stuff deleted...
> I'll get pics the next time I am out there, may not be for a while
> though. Again if I was making money on the deal please believe I would
> have jumped in my car and drove over there to get pics before posting.
So, the game is for sale again?
> If you want to see my groups history, that's easy do the search. For
> the added security I even added in my eBay id todd-the-great. Check
> that out to and e-mail me there, I will respond. I have like 255 or so
> positive feedbacks.
Now this group isn't a bunch of a-holes?
> Look if all of these people see something wrong with what I did
> then........... I think you are all dumb bastards! - Just kidding.
f- you too.
>You must be right and I am wrong.
That seems to be the concensus.
>The main thing that was in the back of my
> mind is, really rare game and that someone wouldn't mind saying they
> are willing to pay good money for it.
You know, why not just take the damn photos, put the thing on ebay with
a reserve, and be done with it? The game will bring what it brings, you
will have a wider group looking at it, and you will avoid all the flack
here.
Wait....that is the smart thing to do. Forget it.
Kirb
Studiobassist
again? I said I will take pictures the next time I am there and post
them. Did you forget I said the game wasn't for sale anymore? I never
said, it's for sale again. You seem to have the same problem Steve did
jumping to conclusions.
If I said the group is a bunch of assholes, I am sorry. I only meant
most of the people giving me grief over a sound sales tactic are
hillbilly inbreeding redneck assholes. You must be to carry it this far
without making much sense. How do you tell when someone has money as a
sales rep? Look at the shoes and the watch. That's all I was doing. If
you can't say I would be willing to pay up to X for the machine then
fuck you I won't waste my time.
Why would I post it on eBay, it's not mine? Damn get it together man.
Are you that fucking stupid? I only wanted to hook someone up from the
groups with the rare machine. I could give a flying fuck less about
selling the machine on eBay. Again, it's not mine so wouldn't that be
the stupid thing to do? I don't want to have to field all the questions
about shipping, does the machine do this or that, is that a pinball
game inside there, what does it weigh and so on. I wanted someone who
knows what they are buying to come forward, say yes I am looking and I
am in that price range. Then I would have got the pics, and answered
all the questions for that person. Much more simple I thought until
this thread.
Todd
Studiobassist
are worth. Go to the arcade newsgroups and check it out. Just because
your cheap, don't try to pass something off as being over priced.
Todd
Cayle George
Studiobassist
and Starship Troopers pin for a very good price. I had pics of those
because they were mine. They both sold for $2400 and they were in very
nice shape. So why am I still here? I guess it's because I feel like I
belong here since I am a collector. I just can't stand trying to do
something that you think is going to be good for someone and having it
picked apart and turned into me being the bad guy. I'll go away, but
not before apologizing to those who deserve it and telling the rest who
don't to fuck off.
Todd
Cayle George
:F Dracula~!
kirb
> Damn Kirb you are a dickhead.
...said the troll.
>When did I say the game was for sale again? I said I will take pictures >the next time I am there and post them.
Why bother? You didn't bother taking pics when you were selling
something that wasn't yours. Now you want to take a pic of something
that isn't for sale. I would suspect you would want to rub it in to
people here, but that would be pointless.
> You seem to have the same problem Steve did jumping to conclusions.
I asked a question. You seem to have a problem with a "?" and a "."
> If I said the group is a bunch of assholes, I am sorry. I only meant
> most of the people giving me grief over a sound sales tactic are
> hillbilly inbreeding redneck assholes.
and yet, you continue to argue with them.
...much pointless crap deleted
> Why would I post it on eBay, it's not mine? Damn get it together man.
> Are you that fucking stupid? I only wanted to hook someone up from the
> groups with the rare machine.
and you couldn't even do that without totally screwing it up and then
CONSTANTLY whining about it. BFD. We don't need your rare game here.
Kirb
kirb
Sorry, I sold a bunch of rare games last year (warrior, Quantum, SW
cockpits with 25" monitors) for a whole lot less than your want prices.
It's not that I'm cheap, it's that I just don't care.
Go back to your shoes, watches, and digital cameras.
Kirb
metallik
> something that you think is going to be good for someone and having it
> picked apart and turned into me being the bad guy. I'll go away, but
You're not the bad guy... just the stupid guy. First trying to sell
something you don't even own, for top dollar, with no pictures. Oh, but
you weren't taking offers, just a RANGE of offers. Now you want to
take pictures of something that ISN'T for sale (and that you STILL
don't own) ..? Or is the game still "available" and you don;t want to
admit you're still fishing? Oh, can't forget the materialistic
bragging. Watch and shoes.. LOL that's rich. And you just can't let
it go either. Like someotherguy said.. the energizer butthead, just
keeps going and going and going...
> not before apologizing to those who deserve it and telling the rest who
> don't to fuck off.
Ok, that's nice.. now will you go away for real this time? :)
Studiobassist
missed.
Todd
pinballjim
Studiobassist wrote:
> I did say before I would get pictures to show the assholes what they
> missed.
You won't drive 30 miles to make a sale, but you'll drive 30 miles to
spite someone?
Wow!
c_k...@yahoo.com
Studiobassist
beats losing money on party poker.:) The mentality of some people
really makes me laugh. I kind of started to enjoy doing battle with
some of these jokers. Maybe I should stop? You guy's just keep throwing
more shit and I am bored so why not defend my position? Come on, let me
have it! Can't anyone insult my mother now, how about my heritage, I am
Greek.
Todd
Studiobassist
owned the games I would have pictures. Oh, maybe you deleted
them.....loser.
You're just a stupid little man. How many times do I have to say it
wasn't my asking price? Do you need flash cards? $2500 is the price
they would let it go at dip shit. That is a fair collector price. Do
your research dickhead. I was just trying to pass these people off to
someone after qualifying them so they wouldn't make me look bad in
front of my client. They have sat on a lot of great machines for a long
time. I have been waiting a couple years for them to let go of some
games and they haven't. They said they would let go of the Varkon so...
there you have it.
Fuck you very much.
c_k...@yahoo.com
work out" and move on.
Best off sticking with discussions on why Wayne isn't making parts or
what would make a next great pin.
Studiobassist
kirb
Studiobassist wrote:
> Sure you did. Do you have pictures of those games that you sold? If I
> owned the games I would have pictures. Oh, maybe you deleted
> them.....loser.
Why would I keep pics of games I sold? That is almost as stupid as
selling something that isn't mine without any pics to try and look big
to some loser client. I sold one SW cockpit on ebay, the warrior went
in the midwest somewhere after being sold on ebay, and the Quantum is
still in Grand Rapids. Not sure where the other SW went... We sold over
100 games that summer. The hot ones went very quick.
> You're just a stupid little man. How many times do I have to say it
> wasn't my asking price? Do you need flash cards? $2500 is the price
> they would let it go at dip shit.
Maybe you should re-read what I wrote. You didn't get the diff between
a "?" and a ".", so I suspect your reading comp skills suck as well.
Your ability to throw insults in front of your own stupidity is quite
the facinating trait.
>That is a fair collector price. Do
> your research dickhead. I was just trying to pass these people off to
> someone after qualifying them so they wouldn't make me look bad in
> front of my client.
You just want to look like a self serving jerk here. Mission complete.
Next time you might save yourself some grief by not attempting to
impress your client by pimping his stuff.
>They have sat on a lot of great machines for a long
> time. I have been waiting a couple years for them to let go of some
> games and they haven't. They said they would let go of the Varkon so...
> there you have it.
>
> Fuck you very much.
So, does that mean you are gone from the group now? Promise?
OK, those were QUESTIONS, not statements. Please don't confuse the two.
I asked you a question about being gone from the group. I didn't make
the statement as fact. Ask Jeeves if you need more clarification.
Kirb
(Ok, the troll is running in circles, time to let this die)
Fred Kemper
asking price!
You asked for "offers", got them, and didn't
_like_them. So now, everyone is a "tard"???
BTW, we didn't 'discuss' anything with the "owners".
It seems it was just you, I gather from the thread.
Confusion indeed.
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
====================
Studiobassist wrote:
> All of you guy's miss the point. The owners said they would need at
> least $2500 to motivate them to sell. I wanted to know that I wasn't
> wasting my time going 30 miles for someone who wasn't willing or able
> to pay that. Again, it's not an easy to find game so if your a serious
> buyer you should be able to say, the right machine I would pay up to
> $2500. > Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Todd
Studiobassist
that is why I said you probably didn't have pictures still. See,
everyone made assumptions that I should have done this or that based on
what they may have done. I still have pictures of all of my rare stuff
even the stuff I sold because I may get around to putting a website
together one day. You guy's assume that because you do something one
way I should do it the same and you are wrong. And sure, you had a
Warrior, Star Wars Cockpit w/ 25" Amplifone and a Quantum that you sold
for peanuts. By the way, do you think I am going to go away because you
think you are one upping me here? So far I think I have answered all of
your questions and false statements with truthful answers and I have
proved that you are the true self-serving asshole Kirb.
As far as pimping my clients stuff, yes I was offering up one piece
that is really rare and that a true collector would like to have. I
stated the terms in my original post and you guys couldn't connect the
dots. I'm sorry you guy's are "special".
How am I self serving? This should have been easy, state your range, I
drive 30 miles to get some good pictures and then you see them give me
a firm offer and the you meet the owners transaction. It's the assholes
that fucked everything up. Again you fucking morons I never asked for
offers, I asked for the price range you would pay for something like
this. Do you think when people say make offer, which I didn't, they
don't have a figure in the back of their mind that is the magic number?
They are fishing for the highest offer. If you want someone to go far
beyond their call of duty to get you something before you submit them
that offer, they may do it or they may tell you to fuck off. I know I
would do it if you told me the item was worth X to you if yada yada
yada so please get me what I need to make my decision.
Fred, if you are going to jump into a thread mid-stream at least know
what the fuck you are talking about. Read all the posts and try to keep
up.Maybe you can be the next person to try to out post me here. All it
takes is stupid comments like yours to get you in the running. I mean
come on, asking price and owner talk again, read post number 2
dickhead. I already explained the statements and questions away earlier
in this post so please play catch up if you would like to be involved.
Thank you very much,
Todd
someotherguy
<studio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Sure you did. Do you have pictures of those games that you sold? If I
>owned the games I would have pictures. Oh, maybe you deleted
>them.....loser.
What in the hell.. are you trying to have a collector-cock contest
now? The game isn't even YOURS.. if you were so sure of its value,
you should have done exactly what someone else suggested. Buy it and
resell it. The only thing more difficult about that as opposed to
what you were attempting to do, is actually have the front money.
Maybe you spent all your money on cameras, shoes, watches, etc..
Rare games and valuable games are nothing new to a large number of the
people that inhabit this group. You're not impressing anybody. Where
do you think games like that typically end up? With *collectors* - so
this "up to $2500" Varkon is a drop in the bucket; nobody here is
crying that you're "not selling it to us anymore" since we're a bunch
of assholes, retards, losers, etc. I'd put the 2 Joust pins and the
Safecracker I've owned and sold up against Varkon any day of the week.
I like Varkon a little bit, and if you weren't obviously a fucktard I
would have been e-mailing you about it, but your almost immediate
freakout on here showed that you were not worth dealing with in any
capacity. It's just a game and you're just a whiny little bitch.
There's more important things going on, such as.. what's for dinner.
I'm having tacos. Time for dinner! Buh-bye, crybaby.
Richard
someotherguy
1. A 30 mile drive seems like some insurmountable task for you
2. Anybody who disagrees with you is an asshole, retard, loser, etc.
3. Because people don't do exactly what you want when attempting to
work a deal, they have somehow "fucked it up for everyone"
What a character. Oops, I mean, child. What a child.
Studiobassist
It's not that they disagree it's the way they go about it.
Yes, they fucked it up for everyone. I have moved on from trying to
help someone hook up with a rare machine. So yes you are right.
I don't think a child could have done some of the things I done in my
lifetime. So I will just ignore that.
Todd
kirb
Studiobassist wrote:
> I had to give you some of the logic you and others have been giving me,
> that is why I said you probably didn't have pictures still. See,
> everyone made assumptions that I should have done this or that based on
> what they may have done.
Wow, that above statement doesn't make any sense.
>I still have pictures of all of my rare stuff
> even the stuff I sold because I may get around to putting a website
> together one day. You guy's assume that because you do something one
> way I should do it the same and you are wrong.
Maybe you are the one that is wrong. I haven't seen anyone stand up and
say "Todd was 100% correct in what he did" because most people think
you handled the whole thing like a moron.
>nd sure, you had a Warrior, Star Wars Cockpit w/ 25" Amplifone and a >Quantum that you sold for peanuts.
Not for peanuts, not for your "values", but more for a resonable
collector price. Ask around the vid group for the kzoo warehouse games.
Do a google search on that group and you will see a list of games.
Prices witheld unless the current owners want to tell you how much they
paid. Good luck with your attitude.
I don't keep pics of games I flipped. I don't like vids. Warrior is
stupid. Quantum was a flop. Varkon is not very fun. Don't like that
answer, TFB.
>By the way, do you think I am going to go away because you
> think you are one upping me here? So far I think I have answered all of
> your questions and false statements with truthful answers and I have
> proved that you are the true self-serving asshole Kirb.
It isn't hard to "up" you. You actually drag yourself down, so the work
on my part is pretty easy. You may want to look up "self-serving", or
you could just look in the mirror.
> As far as pimping my clients stuff, yes I was offering up one piece
> that is really rare and that a true collector would like to have. I
> stated the terms in my original post and you guys couldn't connect the
> dots. I'm sorry you guy's are "special".
blah, blah....find another client's stuff to pimp.
> How am I self serving? This should have been easy, state your range, I
> drive 30 miles to get some good pictures and then you see them give me
> a firm offer and the you meet the owners transaction. It's the assholes
> that fucked everything up. Again you fucking morons I never asked for
> offers, I asked for the price range you would pay for something like
> this. Do you think when people say make offer, which I didn't, they
> don't have a figure in the back of their mind that is the magic number?
> They are fishing for the highest offer. If you want someone to go far
> beyond their call of duty to get you something before you submit them
> that offer, they may do it or they may tell you to fuck off. I know I
> would do it if you told me the item was worth X to you if yada yada
> yada so please get me what I need to make my decision.
You keep trying to make your point. We all know the story. Your buttons
are just too easy to push....moron.
> Fred, if you are going to jump into a thread mid-stream at least know
> what the fuck you are talking about. Read all the posts and try to keep
> up.Maybe you can be the next person to try to out post me here. All it
> takes is stupid comments like yours to get you in the running. I mean
> come on, asking price and owner talk again, read post number 2
> dickhead. I already explained the statements and questions away earlier
> in this post so please play catch up if you would like to be involved.
did you get that mouth when you bought those shoes? Buy a watch like
yours and you get a free bowl of soup.
Kirb
Studiobassist
people just don't want to get involved. It's all the trolls that have
jumped on the band wagon that you are riding on. I am at a point in my
life where I don't need to flip a game for cash, you may not be. You
may have never done anything to help anyone out, I have and continue to
on a regular basis through volunteer work in my community and
donations. All I tried to do was help someone with finding a rare game.
Again, for the 20th time, it is not my high game pricing it is what the
market has bared for the game and the owners pricing. And sure, you
sold those games you claimed you sold and like I care enough to waste
my time investigating it. If you are going to snip stuff so it is out
of context then you are just being a troll. Everything I said makes
sense.
I own a new business that has started doing very well. I am on a
different level than some of the people in this arcade/pinball
newsgroup so I may do things a different way. I deal with high level
corporate clients and have always done very well in sales. (That is an
assumption that I am in a different line of work than maybe most people
in here and not meant to piss anyone off.) My ways have worked out very
well for me in the past so why change. Yes, if you don't have the money
for something I am involved with, fuck you I won't give you the time of
day and I can spot you a mile away. The only self-serving that I was
involved in was between me and my client. I wanted to bring them a
qualified buyer. They have games that I have been trying to get them to
let go of for a long time.
I really don't like you Kirb and you don't like me so why don't we just
agree to drop it? You can't, can you? You have to have the last word
with you being on the offense and me on defense. You just can't let it
go. The only time I fire back is when you pull stuff out of context. I
feel I need to defend my position so I respond. Can we agree to just
let this go, no name calling, no back and forth bs anymore?
Todd
Fred Kemper
as "assholes" and "idiots". I have no desire to outpost
you, but I *was* trying to understand your logic. I now see
the error of my ways, (and yours as well).
I guess i missed post #2. My newsreader didn't pick it up....
And you have a nice day, too.
--
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
******************
"Studiobassist" <studio...@hotmail.com> wrote
metallik
gone in this silly argument...
Studiobassist wrote:
> I don't think most people think I handled this poorly, I think most
> people just don't want to get involved. It's all the trolls that have
"The silent majority supports me!" ... Check.
> jumped on the band wagon that you are riding on. I am at a point in my
> life where I don't need to flip a game for cash, you may not be. You
"I am successful, despite acting like a moron online!" ... Check.
> may have never done anything to help anyone out, I have and continue to
> on a regular basis through volunteer work in my community and
"I am a stand-up guy, despite acting like a moron online!" ... Check.
> Again, for the 20th time, it is not my high game pricing it is what the
> market has bared for the game and the owners pricing. And sure, you
Re-explanation of stupid stuff (including bad spelling error) .. Check.
> my time investigating it. If you are going to snip stuff so it is out
> of context then you are just being a troll. Everything I said makes
> sense.
"Wahh! Everyone's stupid except me!! (again)" ... Check.
> I own a new business that has started doing very well. I am on a
> different level than some of the people in this arcade/pinball
> newsgroup so I may do things a different way. I deal with high level
> corporate clients and have always done very well in sales. (That is an
"My life is better than yours, despite my idiocy!" ... Check.
"I have more and better material possesions than you!" ... Check.
> well for me in the past so why change. Yes, if you don't have the money
> for something I am involved with, fuck you I won't give you the time of
> day and I can spot you a mile away. The only self-serving that I was
Assumption that we're actually interested in your overpriced crap ...
Check.
> I really don't like you Kirb and you don't like me so why don't we just
I don't like you either. Neither does Fred, or Richard, or anyone else
participating in this thread. You are a pompous ass, and a pretty
stupid one at that. Just wanted to make that point clear.
> agree to drop it? You can't, can you? You have to have the last word
> with you being on the offense and me on defense. You just can't let it
Claim that the 'other guy' is carrying on, despite the fact mr. bASSist
has contributed 35 of 89 posts to this mess... Check.
> feel I need to defend my position so I respond. Can we agree to just
> let this go, no name calling, no back and forth bs anymore?
Request for no more name calling, despite being responsible for 90% of
prior name calling... Check.
Analysis: completely predictable, egotistical moron. I'd imagine he's
related to David Young (of BMI infamy).
Studiobassist
great! Yes, I play bass great as well. I am awesome.:) You sure have me
pegged.
Nice thing you did with the check's. Are you playing airline pilot now?
You are right, I did a lot of name calling and yes I posted a lot. I
had everyone to talk to, you only had one person.
Yes, I am a moron that is why I have been able to do some of the things
I have done. If I explain those things then I am bragging. I tried
explaining why I don't need money and that I do have equipment when
someone suggested buying a camera and that was bragging in your eye's.
You are just a Troll. Go away troll, go away.
Studiobassist
I said my peace and it's old now. I won't be reading this anymore so
say what you will.
Todd
pinballjim
Studiobassist wrote:
> I won't be reading this anymore so
> say what you will.
How many times have you said you're done? I think 3, but I haven't
slogged through all your posts.
Thanks for the unsolicited pdf, though. It's a real nice, one of the
most poorly designed examples of graphic layouts I've seen in years.
I'm serious guys - it's almost as incoherent as his posts.
Next time have someone that can read and write English properly
proofread the damn thing! :)
metallik
Don't stop now! </elvira>
The...@thekorn.net
> >$700 Sony Digital
>
> In marketing class, we learn that only people without a lot of money
> spend what they have on name brands. The more money you have,
> typically the smarter about it you get. It's real interesting, go
> check out the selection at a supermarket in the rich part of town.
Well, there may be something to that, but I don't know that you can
simplify it that much.
For example, when I bought my first digital video camera, I went with a
Sony D8 camera. This wasn't necessarily because it was a Sony, though
I do have a slight preference for them. It was simply because I
compared all the options out there, and the availability of 8mm tape vs
miniDV (8mm was about $2 a tape, miniDV was approximately $15!), and
overall build quality (i.e. "heft") and came to the conclusion that the
Sony was the best bang for the buck. 5 years of hell and back, and
it's going strong!
The funny thing is that when my Dad bought the equivilent camera a few
years later, I DIDN'T really like it. It had been _significantly_
'cheapened up', features eliminated, tape mechanism changed for the
worse, etc. The price also dropped $400, but IMHO, the price drop
wasn't worth the tradeoffs.
Now that I'm seriously thinking about upgrading to a HD video camera,
though, I'm looking at the Sony's. (Well, only Sony and JVC are
players in the segment at this point, so that's not a _real_ stretch.)
But it's not because it's a Sony, per se, but it's because I had such a
good experience WITH my Sony.
Hell, I figure -any- piece of technology (especially one with moving
parts) that I get five solid years out of with zero complaints, they're
doing *something* right! :)
OK, this entire OT meandering done...
> The less affluent tend to get more satisfaction out of a name brand, as
> it makes them feel more successful and they can show it off to their
> peers. One way is to constantly brag about what everything cost.
That certainly explains the popularity of Tommy HillF*cker clothes. :)
The...@thekorn.net
Studiobassist wrote:
> I don't think my response to Troy was a temper tantrum. I explained why
> I pulled it and said that there were a bunch of retards that e-mailed
> me. If the level of professionalism of this groups is a direct
> reflection of the e-mails I received, I will never try to hook anybody
> up on a collectible piece again in these groups. Steve Winslow is one
> of those retards. That is why he came out firing.
See, the problem here is that nobody knows you from Adam. While you
may be The Pope, nobody has any idea. So the upshot is that people
have to assume that you don't have their best interest at heart. As
such, pictures are required before anyone can give -any- kind of a
serious offer.
Anyone who gives you a range with -zero- information is either yanking
your chain, or doesn't intend to honor that commitment. And I know you
said you weren't taking "offers" just looking for a range, but when
people (such as myself) who ARE reputable give a range, that's the
'first level' of a contract between myself and the seller (whether that
be you or someone else).
TheKorn
news:1129736865....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> I could give a flying fuck less about
> selling the machine on eBay. Again, it's not mine so wouldn't that be
> the stupid thing to do? I don't want to have to field all the questions
> about shipping, does the machine do this or that, is that a pinball
> game inside there, what does it weigh and so on. I wanted someone who
> knows what they are buying to come forward, say yes I am looking and I
> am in that price range. Then I would have got the pics, and answered
> all the questions for that person. Much more simple I thought until
> this thread.
That's the thing... you don't have a rep. That kind of transaction might
be a stretch even for someone who DOES have a rep.
But YOU in particular _don't_ have a rep. And that, in general, is _not_
how transactions are handled in pinball-dom. (No idea about video-dom;
that's a different world.)
So, as the old saying goes, when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In other
words, if you want to play in the big money leagues, there is only -one-
way to do it, and that's with pictures first. Otherwise, people think
you're either a sheister, a clown, or both.
TheKorn
news:6cgdl11cltk8noq9m...@4ax.com:
> I like Varkon a little bit, and if you weren't obviously a fucktard I
> would have been e-mailing you about it, but your almost immediate
> freakout on here showed that you were not worth dealing with in any
> capacity. It's just a game and you're just a whiny little bitch.
> There's more important things going on, such as.. what's for dinner.
> I'm having tacos. Time for dinner! Buh-bye, crybaby.
(inhale)
"......daaaAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOMMMM!" :)