[OT] More freaking Ebay Madness
John Long
Afterall, although it was well designed, I know most people could recreate
the same look for a fraction of the cost. This ebay auction I just happened
upon is just CRAZY. I personally don't care how well a mini is painted. No
one should pay as much as an entire army for a single figure. I appologize
in advance if this auction is one of our newsgroup community members, and I
applaud him/her on selling their wares at such a great value. I just can't
belive it was bid on for this amount.
Also a note. I think this figure has one of the best paint jobs ever seen.
just not $100+ paint job!.
NUTS!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168184687&category=44123&ssPageName=Merch06
Paul T.
"John Long" <johnan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> NUTS!!!!
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168184687&category=44123
&ssPageName=Merch06
To be honest with you, no its not nuts.
I'd never pay someone else to paint miniatures forme, and never have done,
but there are many people these days that buy painted miniatures and
dioramas as collections rather than for wargaming.
Take into account the amount of time that would have gone into this piece. I
know as a professional painter (and current $/£ exchange rates) I'd be
expecting more than that if I did this piece on commission. We have to make
an hourly wage too you know & if only 10 hours went into that piece,
$10/Hour isnt a great rate for suck skilled work.
As I say, I agree that I'd never pay anyone for painted miniatures (unless
they were bad enough to be cheap & stripped!) and I certainly wouldnt pay
that kind of amount, but if someone wants a first class army, then its a
reasonable price for such a great command piece.
--
Cheers,
Paul "TuffSkull" T.
http://www.aofk.co.uk - Home ofThe Mercenary Brush Galleries & Painting
Service
http://www.epic40k.com - if its epic, Its there.....
Myrmidon
paul...@spambuffer.btinternet.com, Paul T. shouted out the following
words of wit...
>
> "John Long" <johnan...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:AuoMb.10070$6l1.7352@okepread03...
> > OK. I thought the ebay auction of the terrain was a little out of scope.
> > Afterall, although it was well designed, I know most people could recreate
> > the same look for a fraction of the cost. This ebay auction I just
> happened
> > upon is just CRAZY. I personally don't care how well a mini is painted. No
> > one should pay as much as an entire army for a single figure. I appologize
> > in advance if this auction is one of our newsgroup community members, and
> I
> > applaud him/her on selling their wares at such a great value. I just can't
> > belive it was bid on for this amount.
> >
> > Also a note. I think this figure has one of the best paint jobs ever seen.
> > just not $100+ paint job!.
>
> >
> > NUTS!!!!
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168184687&category=44123
> &ssPageName=Merch06
>
>
> To be honest with you, no its not nuts.
I'd agree. While I personally wouldn't have bid as high as the
current price on that mini (it's not the paint job, I'm just not in love
with the over-all mini itself), I can certainly understand that some folks
would.
>
> I'd never pay someone else to paint miniatures forme, and never have done,
> but there are many people these days that buy painted miniatures and
> dioramas as collections rather than for wargaming.
Hell, I've got a degree in Fine Arts and I paint minis, but I still
buy other artist's works that I especially like, and personally I'd pay
big money for certain mini painter's work that I've seen. If I'd have had
the cash at the time, I'd have forked over big $$$ for the WFB 'Mounted
Champion of Slannesh' that Tim Kohlmetz sold on ebay a while back - and I
don't play WFB! I'd have then placed it upstairs in my glass display
case. Every time I'd finish a mini I thought was excellent, I'd go look
at Tim's work (and cry) and then go back and work harder. :)
Just because I can and do make art doesn't mean I wouldn't buy
someone else's art. I do because it's a chance to see things through
*their* eyes. Owning someone else's work is a chance to savor a view that
one would otherwise never get to see by one's self.
>
> Take into account the amount of time that would have gone into this piece. I
> know as a professional painter (and current $/£ exchange rates) I'd be
> expecting more than that if I did this piece on commission. We have to make
> an hourly wage too you know & if only 10 hours went into that piece,
> $10/Hour isnt a great rate for suck skilled work.
The price of a work of art isn't just the 'raw hours' spent on it
plus the cost of materials, but the skill level of the creator as well.
Skillful surgeons, lawyers, mechanics, etc are paid more in spite of the
fact it often takes them *less* time to do the same job than it would a
lesser skilled person. The reason being that they bring a greater level
of knowledge and ability to the process. In painting (minis or
otherwise), being able to choose good color combinations, being skillful
in one's brush handling, etc all save time, but can and often do result in
a higher quality paint job. When it comes to painted minis, I'd say it's
more a matter of the 'quality' of the finished mini than it is of the
hours spent. Obviously if it's a great piece that required lots of hours,
the artist isn't going to what to let it go dirt cheap. Conversely, if
the final result doesn't equal the effort invested in it, the artist isn't
going to recoup the effort put into it, and needs to learn to choose
better painting/modeling strategies and/or to work faster.
The Kroot Shaper up for auction isn't one of the minis I'd go nuts
over, but the paint job is unarguably excellent. If the price seems nuts
to the original poster, then he should check out the professional world of
fine arts. I went to a Gallery Opening in Chicago, where there was a
painting that was basically a large olive-drab green square with large
black X made of caulking that someone had smeared onto the canvas with
their hand. (You could see the finger marks in the putty.) The piece was
by a well known German artist and was sold for - $44,000. I looked at a
college art instructor I was with at the time and said "$44,000?" and he
replied "It represents Germany's guilt over the treatment of the Jews
during WW II." I replied "$44,000? Man, that's a lot of guilt." To
which he commented "Sometimes - art is what you can get away with." Truer
words were never spoken. That same evening, I went to another gallery -
and there were huge and absolutely beautiful portraits of various ordinary
people done by an artist from Asia - they were fascinating in both their
technical skill, and the depth of character they captured. And the price
for 3 foot by 6 foot canvases? Oh, about $1,000 - $2,000 per painting.
Some times it's a matter of great skill, and some times it's just a matter
of finding the right market.
Myrmidon
--
#1582. I think they call it Warhammer "40K" because that is how
much you are going to have to make per year in order to play.
- Eric Noland
# 1082. Pound for pound I can buy cocaine cheaper than
raise a Warhammer army
- Roy Cox
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****
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Or...
Paul T.
> of finding the right market.
>
> Myrmidon
>
Here Here!
> > $10/Hour isnt a great rate for suck skilled work.
And I cant blieve I made that typo of "Such"..... I must be posting on RGMW
too often...
Rikk30
wrote:
I seen this auction earlier. It was around $63 when I first seen it.
I love this mini and wish I could have won this auction. I am building
an Tau army but at this time don't have any Kroot in it. But if I
could have afforded it I would have bought it.
I will admit that if I won the auction for the Kroot and told my wife
how much I paid for it, she would have said I was CRAZY. (:
He had a space marine with an sword and a mean 5 oclock shadow. It was
even nicer than the Kroot. The SM was one of the finest paint jobs I
have ever seen. It was sitting at $167 and worth every penny. I can't
drop that much money on one fig that would never every leave the
house. But it was damn good looking.
I don't have the ability to do that kind of work so I would be willing
to pay for a quality job. I bought a ork warboss for $25 and it is so
nice. I don't collect orc but this one was just too nice to pass on.
And was affordable.
Oh btw I looked at the sellers feedback and he sold several other
awesome looking minis, but one stands out it sold for almost $1000!!!
It was even nicer looking than the Kroot. That I think IS crazy,
though if the buyer has the money. I consider paying $150,000 for a
car crazy but there are people who can afford it.
Here is the link to judge for yourself.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45364&item=3155810862
Rikk
No computers were harmed while composing this post.
smithdoerr
"Rikk30" <Saur...@hvc.rr.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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> Oh btw I looked at the sellers feedback and he sold several other
> awesome looking minis, but one stands out it sold for almost $1000!!!
> It was even nicer looking than the Kroot. That I think IS crazy,
> though if the buyer has the money. I consider paying $150,000 for a
> car crazy but there are people who can afford it.
>
>
> Here is the link to judge for yourself.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45364&item=3155810862
Ok that one definitely qualifies as crazy. Same buyer too. Check out some
of the other auctions dirtbag11 has won:
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=dirtbag11
I'm totally jealous of how much money that guy has to blow on miniatures!
:)
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-smithdoerr
smithdoerr
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Roughly $2400 US in the month of December...
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-smithdoerr
Rikk30
wrote:
I don't think I spent that on all the minis and paints etc combined
since I started playing 40k.
That much on little hunks of metal that only has a value to a
relatively small audience. Guess that is the same as for comics or
baseball cards as well
Maybe he should change his id to moneybags11! (:
Myrmidon
@hvc.rr.comNOSPAM, Rikk30 shouted out the following words of wit...
No kidding - now I've spent a heck of a lot of money on the minis
hobby, but then again I've been collecting slowly for oh about 25 years or
so. Now if you look he dropped a just insane amount on this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45364&item=
3155810862
Winning bid: US $986.83
Ended: Nov-18-03 20:55:10 PST
It is a damn nice mini - and judging by the varied items he/she collects -
it's not for a gaming piece but solely for a collection of well painted
minis. All I can say is 'I'm with you Rikk' - I've never spent that kind
of money on a mini. I've spent $35 - $45 on rare minis like Sgt.
Centurious (from The Legion Of The Damned) and the limited ed. Games Day
99 Marine Captain/commander figure, but that's the limit of my insanity
for minis, painted or otherwise. But again, admittedly, I'd be willing to
drop a fair chunk of $$$ on a well painted figure depending on the painter
and the mini.
Rikk30
I have played 40k on and off since 1990. I played Ad&D and many other
role playing games, misc wargames (board),tons of pc games. I never
painted well enough to put major money in to miniatures games. The
groups I played with in the past had a wide variety of interests. So I
went along. Currently I have several other hobbies other than 40k so
now so the money and time gets spread around. I wish I could focus on
one hobby but I often get bored with them and do other things.
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45364&item=
>3155810862
>
>Winning bid: US $986.83
>Ended: Nov-18-03 20:55:10 PST
That is a really nice mini but way way out of my wallets range.
>It is a damn nice mini - and judging by the varied items he/she collects -
>it's not for a gaming piece but solely for a collection of well painted
>minis. All I can say is 'I'm with you Rikk' - I've never spent that kind
It would be nice to build that kind of collection. He has several
golden demon winning figures. I would love to be able to do that, but
that's no realistic.
>of money on a mini. I've spent $35 - $45 on rare minis like Sgt.
>Centurious (from The Legion Of The Damned) and the limited ed. Games Day
>99 Marine Captain/commander figure, but that's the limit of my insanity
>for minis, painted or otherwise. But again, admittedly, I'd be willing to
>drop a fair chunk of $$$ on a well painted figure depending on the painter
>and the mini.
I have seen a few unpainted limited additions that I almost bought but
not being an gifted painter I passed on them to let someone with skill
(hopefully) buy them.
Now if they are painted that is another story. I have bought a few
very nicely painted figures for two reasons, one is they are very nice
looking and two to see if I can learn a little from them on how they
were painted.
I won 3 figs that were supposedly painted by an golden demon winner
(name was not listed in the auction) and I got them for $1 a piece! No
one bid on them but they were very nice looking figs. Can't believe my
luck there.
I would like to get some of Dr. Faust figures. I bid on several last
time he put a few up for bid, but was out bid. They were nice but not
some of his top works. Next time I will have to bid a little higher.
> Myrmidon
Myrmidon
@hvc.rr.comNOSPAM, Rikk30 shouted out the following words of wit...
> >
> > No kidding - now I've spent a heck of a lot of money on the minis
> >hobby, but then again I've been collecting slowly for oh about 25 years or
> >so. Now if you look he dropped a just insane amount on this one...
>
> I have played 40k on and off since 1990. I played Ad&D and many other
> role playing games, misc wargames (board),tons of pc games. I never
> painted well enough to put major money in to miniatures games. The
> groups I played with in the past had a wide variety of interests. So I
> went along. Currently I have several other hobbies other than 40k so
> now so the money and time gets spread around. I wish I could focus on
> one hobby but I often get bored with them and do other things.
>
modern micro-armor from the days when I played a lot of West End Game's
Air Cav which is a lot of fun. (Nothing like driving a BMP full speed up
a wooded hill only to find an M1 coming the other way. Can you say 'Break
& run away real fast'?) I sold off almost all my old Battle-Tech stuff
some years back - though I still have my original copy of 'Battle-Droids'
the pre- Battle-Tech stuff from FASA. And I've still got a bunch of boxed
games like SPI's 'War of the Ring' and Avalon Hill's 'Starship Troopers'
as well as the old Micro-games like 'Ogre & GEV' and 'Melee & Wizard'.
Hmmm, time to start teaching the kids to play some of these. :)
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45364&item=
> >3155810862
> >
> >Winning bid: US $986.83
> >Ended: Nov-18-03 20:55:10 PST
>
> That is a really nice mini but way way out of my wallets range.
>
> >It is a damn nice mini - and judging by the varied items he/she collects -
> >it's not for a gaming piece but solely for a collection of well painted
> >minis. All I can say is 'I'm with you Rikk' - I've never spent that kind
>
> It would be nice to build that kind of collection. He has several
> golden demon winning figures. I would love to be able to do that, but
> that's no realistic.
>
I'd say that's true for about 99.9% of gamers out there. Wealthy or
not, dropping that kind of cash on a single mini just isn't realistic.
(Where'd I put my lottery tickets...)
> I have seen a few unpainted limited additions that I almost bought but
> not being an gifted painter I passed on them to let someone with skill
> (hopefully) buy them.
>
> Now if they are painted that is another story. I have bought a few
> very nicely painted figures for two reasons, one is they are very nice
> looking and two to see if I can learn a little from them on how they
> were painted.
Now, the guy that did the minis that brought in the huge $$$ is
supposedly working on a painting techniques CD that he's going to sell. I
emailed him, but haven't heard anything so far. I've been pestering Tim
Kohlmetz about doing a CD as well, but I haven't heard anything for a
while out of him. Hmmmm, time to email him has well.
>
> I won 3 figs that were supposedly painted by an golden demon winner
> (name was not listed in the auction) and I got them for $1 a piece! No
> one bid on them but they were very nice looking figs. Can't believe my
> luck there.
>
Sucks to be you! :) Every once in a while one manages to find a
real deal on Ebay for some odd reason.
> I would like to get some of Dr. Faust figures. I bid on several last
> time he put a few up for bid, but was out bid. They were nice but not
> some of his top works. Next time I will have to bid a little higher.
>
That man can paint! I saw some of his Eldar figures up close at the
Brockhurst booth and they were exceptionally nice. He's got a great eye
for color and real skill with the paint brush.
Berto
"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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> In article <6df6009v9n6gkp5at...@4ax.com>, Sauron767
> @hvc.rr.comNOSPAM, Rikk30 shouted out the following words of wit...
> <snippage of the unneeded>
> > >
> > > No kidding - now I've spent a heck of a lot of money on the minis
> > >hobby, but then again I've been collecting slowly for oh about 25 years
or
> > >so. Now if you look he dropped a just insane amount on this one...
> >
> > I have played 40k on and off since 1990. I played Ad&D and many other
> > role playing games, misc wargames (board),tons of pc games. I never
> > painted well enough to put major money in to miniatures games. The
> > groups I played with in the past had a wide variety of interests. So I
> > went along. Currently I have several other hobbies other than 40k so
> > now so the money and time gets spread around. I wish I could focus on
> > one hobby but I often get bored with them and do other things.
> >
> Been there and done that too. I've got a bit of old unpainted C & C
> modern micro-armor from the days when I played a lot of West End Game's
> Air Cav which is a lot of fun. (Nothing like driving a BMP full speed up
> a wooded hill only to find an M1 coming the other way. Can you say 'Break
> & run away real fast'?) I sold off almost all my old Battle-Tech stuff
> some years back - though I still have my original copy of 'Battle-Droids'
> the pre- Battle-Tech stuff from FASA. And I've still got a bunch of boxed
> games like SPI's 'War of the Ring' and Avalon Hill's 'Starship Troopers'
> as well as the old Micro-games like 'Ogre & GEV' and 'Melee & Wizard'.
>
> Hmmm, time to start teaching the kids to play some of these. :)
>
Battledroids(did not know at the time how much they would be worth). Had a
total of 1500 of all kinds including the Unseens X4(went Beserk-mostly
painted them).Collected them for about 10 years. About 2 year ago, sold 2 of
my 6 Behemoths in ebay--400 a piece. Then sold about 1000 of the rest for an
avg price of 32 dollars and kept my good ones. My sons still play a game of
battletech every once in a while with me and it helped me pay a little of
their college. Starship Troopers-bring back old memories ("another bug
hunt"). david fanjoy has my Battledroids that he painted for me on his
website. Those were the days where I could get more people playing B-tech
than now. Now, it is all cards.... And it ain't a Mickey Mantle one for a
Bob Gibson and a Yogi Berra!
berto
Greg
<paul...@spambuffer.btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>"John Long" <johnan...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:AuoMb.10070$6l1.7352@okepread03...
>> OK. I thought the ebay auction of the terrain was a little out of scope.
>> Afterall, although it was well designed, I know most people could recreate
>> the same look for a fraction of the cost. This ebay auction I just
>happened
>> upon is just CRAZY. I personally don't care how well a mini is painted. No
>> one should pay as much as an entire army for a single figure. I appologize
>> in advance if this auction is one of our newsgroup community members, and
>I
>> applaud him/her on selling their wares at such a great value. I just can't
>> belive it was bid on for this amount.
>>
>> Also a note. I think this figure has one of the best paint jobs ever seen.
>> just not $100+ paint job!.
>
>>
>> NUTS!!!!
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168184687&category=44123
>&ssPageName=Merch06
>
>
>To be honest with you, no its not nuts.
It certainly isn't. You guys must have missed Matt's other auctions
that sold in the $500+ range (yes, just for one model). Matt is one
of the best painters in the world, with a huge reputation, lots of
fans and a pile of awards.
John Long
"Greg" <glcym...@neinspamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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The fact that he has painted other figures and has sold them for upwards of
$500 doesn't make it not NUTS. It just shows more clearly that others are
crazy enough to pay for great paint job on their figures. Its still crazy.
Considering the work and time, I figured it out myself also, I can
understand why a professionally painted fig 'could' cost over a $100, based
on hourly wages, etc. However having been playing miniture battle games for
a long time, I can only remember of 1 figure I ever paid to have painted. It
was for Battletech, and I wanted a specific house royal look for house Laio.
I believe I paid $10 for the fig and another $20 for the paint job. It was
done by a 'professional' and was a supperb job. My point here is paying for
a figure is great and paying for a paint job is great, but I just will never
feel that paying that high of a cost is anywhere near sane.
Again. for Matt(who appearantly is the painter) awesome job. I saw some
others on ebay that were also selling at a decently high price and all were
great jobs. Please do not think in any way that I dislike your work, on the
contrary I think its great. just not $100+ great. At least for my money. I
would rather buy a larger army and suffer with my lesser, but acceptable
painting work.
Chris Valera
What do you care? Payment for goods or serviced rendered. Both the
buyer and seller are happy with the deal. It's also a LE model.
> Considering the work and time, I figured it out myself also, I can
> understand why a professionally painted fig 'could' cost over a $100, based
> on hourly wages, etc.
Even at minimum wage it's still fairly cheap. The average painter
spends hundreds of hours painting to a Golden Demon standard.
> However having been playing miniture battle games for
> a long time, I can only remember of 1 figure I ever paid to have painted. It
> was for Battletech, and I wanted a specific house royal look for house Laio.
> I believe I paid $10 for the fig and another $20 for the paint job. It was
> done by a 'professional' and was a supperb job. My point here is paying for
> a figure is great and paying for a paint job is great, but I just will never
> feel that paying that high of a cost is anywhere near sane.
You're not the one buying it, either.
> Again. for Matt(who appearantly is the painter) awesome job. I saw some
> others on ebay that were also selling at a decently high price and all were
> great jobs. Please do not think in any way that I dislike your work, on the
> contrary I think its great. just not $100+ great. At least for my money. I
> would rather buy a larger army and suffer with my lesser, but acceptable
> painting work.
And if you sell off that army, even at a "tabletop-ready" standard of
painting, you'll probably find the value of your army just about
doubled.
--Chris
Maka
> $500 doesn't make it not NUTS. It just shows more clearly that others are
> crazy enough to pay for great paint job on their figures. Its still crazy.
> Considering the work and time, I figured it out myself also, I can
> understand why a professionally painted fig 'could' cost over a $100, based
> on hourly wages, etc. However having been playing miniture battle games for
> a long time, I can only remember of 1 figure I ever paid to have painted. It
> was for Battletech, and I wanted a specific house royal look for house Laio.
> I believe I paid $10 for the fig and another $20 for the paint job. It was
> done by a 'professional' and was a supperb job. My point here is paying for
> a figure is great and paying for a paint job is great, but I just will never
> feel that paying that high of a cost is anywhere near sane.
You are missing the point. You paid $20 for a nice piece to play
with. This piece that just sold for near $1,000 goes beyond that.
Matt has won many Golden Daemons and is one of the best in the world.
He has managed to raise the level of his work to be accepted as ART.
If you or I were to produce something of that quality and sell it, we
would not get anywhere near that amount. Most of what you pay for in
the cost of Art is having a piece painted by someone famous. In the
world of 28mm figue painting, Matt is at the top.
> Again. for Matt(who appearantly is the painter) awesome job. I saw some
> others on ebay that were also selling at a decently high price and all were
> great jobs. Please do not think in any way that I dislike your work, on the
> contrary I think its great. just not $100+ great. At least for my money. I
> would rather buy a larger army and suffer with my lesser, but acceptable
> painting work.
You are looking at the function side of things. I could buy a WHOLE
army and pay somebody to paint it for the cost of that 1 elf general.
While I cannot afford to turn my hobby into my art collection, I can
understand people who do.
I have seen some very expensive and very shitty mediums passed off as
art. This on the other hand is very good. Personally, I like to keep
my art on the walls and my miniatures in a plastic bucket. To each
his own.
-Maka
Rikk30
>In article <6df6009v9n6gkp5at...@4ax.com>, Sauron767
>@hvc.rr.comNOSPAM, Rikk30 shouted out the following words of wit...
><snippage of the unneeded>
>> >
>> > No kidding - now I've spent a heck of a lot of money on the minis
>> >hobby, but then again I've been collecting slowly for oh about 25 years or
>> >so. Now if you look he dropped a just insane amount on this one...
>>
>> I have played 40k on and off since 1990. I played Ad&D and many other
>> role playing games, misc wargames (board),tons of pc games. I never
>> painted well enough to put major money in to miniatures games. The
>> groups I played with in the past had a wide variety of interests. So I
>> went along. Currently I have several other hobbies other than 40k so
>> now so the money and time gets spread around. I wish I could focus on
>> one hobby but I often get bored with them and do other things.
>>
> Been there and done that too. I've got a bit of old unpainted C & C
>modern micro-armor from the days when I played a lot of West End Game's
>Air Cav which is a lot of fun. (Nothing like driving a BMP full speed up
AirCav was a great game. None of my friends wanted to play it but it
was a pretty good solo game. Adding in the GHQ minis would have been a
lot of fun, We played some of the GDW modern rules as well, mostly to
tie in the Twilight 2000 rpg campaign we were playing.
>a wooded hill only to find an M1 coming the other way. Can you say 'Break
>& run away real fast'?) I sold off almost all my old Battle-Tech stuff
Apache attack copters were a lot of fun in AirCav. I am not sure if I
still have it or not. I sold a lot of things when I moved from
Pittsburgh to NY state.
>some years back - though I still have my original copy of 'Battle-Droids'
>the pre- Battle-Tech stuff from FASA. And I've still got a bunch of boxed
>games like SPI's 'War of the Ring' and Avalon Hill's 'Starship Troopers'
>as well as the old Micro-games like 'Ogre & GEV' and 'Melee & Wizard'.
Starship troopers was a fun game. I bribed my sister to play it! This
was before I found others who wanted to play it.
Melee was the first war/roleplayingish game I ever played. Way back in
6th grade. Ogre that was fun. In the little map and a few counters.
That was fun. I never beat my friend as the ogre though. That would
make for a fun port to pc game!
>Hmmm, time to start teaching the kids to play some of these. :)
>
I never thought of that!?! I have some kids soon. (:
>> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45364&item=
>> >3155810862
>> >
>> >Winning bid: US $986.83
>> >Ended: Nov-18-03 20:55:10 PST
>>
>> That is a really nice mini but way way out of my wallets range.
>>
>> >It is a damn nice mini - and judging by the varied items he/she collects -
>> >it's not for a gaming piece but solely for a collection of well painted
>> >minis. All I can say is 'I'm with you Rikk' - I've never spent that kind
>>
>> It would be nice to build that kind of collection. He has several
>> golden demon winning figures. I would love to be able to do that, but
>> that's no realistic.
>>
> I'd say that's true for about 99.9% of gamers out there. Wealthy or
>not, dropping that kind of cash on a single mini just isn't realistic.
>(Where'd I put my lottery tickets...)
That's (lottery) the only I could by that amount of minis. What he
spent in a month is more than my mortgage. Its about 4 months of car
payments on the new car I would like to get in the spring.
>> I have seen a few unpainted limited additions that I almost bought but
>> not being an gifted painter I passed on them to let someone with skill
>> (hopefully) buy them.
>>
>> Now if they are painted that is another story. I have bought a few
>> very nicely painted figures for two reasons, one is they are very nice
>> looking and two to see if I can learn a little from them on how they
>> were painted.
>
> Now, the guy that did the minis that brought in the huge $$$ is
>supposedly working on a painting techniques CD that he's going to sell. I
>emailed him, but haven't heard anything so far. I've been pestering Tim
>Kohlmetz about doing a CD as well, but I haven't heard anything for a
>while out of him. Hmmmm, time to email him has well.
I will keep an eye out for that. It would be nice to see how they are
able to get so detailed.
>
>>
>> I won 3 figs that were supposedly painted by an golden demon winner
>> (name was not listed in the auction) and I got them for $1 a piece! No
>> one bid on them but they were very nice looking figs. Can't believe my
>> luck there.
>>
> Sucks to be you! :) Every once in a while one manages to find a
>real deal on Ebay for some odd reason.
hhehehe I felt bad for the guy for about 5 minutes. They are really
nice and he did deserve a few more $ for them. I just can't believe no
one else even bet a $ on them. I be $5 on each and got em for a buck.
The shipping was double the cost of the auction <G>
>> I would like to get some of Dr. Faust figures. I bid on several last
>> time he put a few up for bid, but was out bid. They were nice but not
>> some of his top works. Next time I will have to bid a little higher.
>>
> That man can paint! I saw some of his Eldar figures up close at the
>Brockhurst booth and they were exceptionally nice. He's got a great eye
>for color and real skill with the paint brush.
>
> Myrmidon
Absolutely. I bid $25 for 4 figures, not his best but very nice. I
had internet connectivity issues that night and could not add another
bid in when someone bid something like $23. I was so upset. The others
figs I did not really care for but they were very nice. I didn't want
to bid on something I really did not want.
His web site is very good. Hopefully he will do a video. That would be
an must buy.
Rikk30
I did not realize those mechs were so valuable. I played Battetech for
a couple years. Only has a dozen or so. I don't recall the
battledroids. Was that a line of mechs?
I need to figure a way to go back in time to oh 1984. I would become
so rich lol Wonder if my old Atlas (painted) is worth anything.
Your right on cards and don't forget console games. Those take up so
many players.
Erik Setzer
> OK. I thought the ebay auction of the terrain was a little out of scope.
> Afterall, although it was well designed, I know most people could recreate
> the same look for a fraction of the cost. This ebay auction I just happened
> upon is just CRAZY. I personally don't care how well a mini is painted. No
> one should pay as much as an entire army for a single figure. I appologize
> in advance if this auction is one of our newsgroup community members, and I
> applaud him/her on selling their wares at such a great value. I just can't
> belive it was bid on for this amount.
>
> Also a note. I think this figure has one of the best paint jobs ever seen.
> just not $100+ paint job!.
>
> NUTS!!!!
Not nuts, absolutely stupid. I've seen other ridiculous bids, such as
someone bidding $250 for a decent paint job on a SOB Seraphim Squad.
There are stupid people out there. That, or folks who are willing to
pay any price for a shot at the Golden Daemon (and screw honesty!).
It makes me wonder that I should be spending my spare time painting
and posting to eBay. I'm not the best painter around, but that
doesn't matter. I'll still get rich off these idiots.
-Erik
Erik Setzer
> No kidding - now I've spent a heck of a lot of money on the minis
> hobby, but then again I've been collecting slowly for oh about 25 years or
> so. Now if you look he dropped a just insane amount on this one...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45364&item=
> 3155810862
>
> Winning bid: US $986.83
> Ended: Nov-18-03 20:55:10 PST
>
> It is a damn nice mini - and judging by the varied items he/she collects -
> it's not for a gaming piece but solely for a collection of well painted
> minis. All I can say is 'I'm with you Rikk' - I've never spent that kind
> of money on a mini. I've spent $35 - $45 on rare minis like Sgt.
> Centurious (from The Legion Of The Damned) and the limited ed. Games Day
> 99 Marine Captain/commander figure, but that's the limit of my insanity
> for minis, painted or otherwise. But again, admittedly, I'd be willing to
> drop a fair chunk of $$$ on a well painted figure depending on the painter
> and the mini.
What is this guy doing? Trying to buy a painting contest? Who spends
$1000 on a paint job that they could ask a buddy to do? I mean, who
here doesn't know someone who can paint pretty good figures, and will
do it for a reasonable fee?
-Erik
Craig Little
news:64945d90.04011...@posting.google.com...
I mean, who
> here doesn't know someone who can paint pretty good figures, and will
> do it for a reasonable fee?
> -Erik
Me.
Erik Setzer
Don't you live in the middle of Limbo? Australia, I think it's
called? We don't count Australia.
-Erik
Qrab
er...@attbi.com (Erik Setzer) wrote:
> I'll still get rich off these idiots.
You'll be bidding on your own auctions then?
--
Be seeing you-
Qrab
Myrmidon
er...@attbi.com, Erik Setzer shouted out the following words of wit...
as in this case it implies he's no longer *in* the UK. He won't have to
'fly the friendly skies' to smack you up side the head for that clueless
comment, it'll be more like "Hello Avis? I'd like to rent a car -
something with a V8 big block, and a solid steel frame... Ummm, yeah, in
case I hit a deer or... something."
Myr
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On Setzer...
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Or...
Marshall Dragoo
> In article <64945d90.04011...@posting.google.com>,
> er...@attbi.com, Erik Setzer shouted out the following words of wit...
> > "Craig Little" <hindu...@hayoo.com> wrote in message news:<75CdnUoesJh...@comcast.com>...
> > > "Erik Setzer" <er...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > news:64945d90.04011...@posting.google.com...
> > > I mean, who
> > > > here doesn't know someone who can paint pretty good figures, and will
> > > > do it for a reasonable fee?
> > > > -Erik
> > >
> > > Me.
> >
> > Don't you live in the middle of Limbo? Australia, I think it's
> > called? We don't count Australia.
> > -Erik
> >
> Hello Captain Clueless! Craig's from the UK - NOTE the 'from' part,
> as in this case it implies he's no longer *in* the UK. He won't have to
> 'fly the friendly skies' to smack you up side the head for that clueless
> comment, it'll be more like "Hello Avis? I'd like to rent a car -
> something with a V8 big block, and a solid steel frame... Ummm, yeah, in
> case I hit a deer or... something."
>
>
> Myr
We can only get that lucky, Myr. Freaking moron! Shut the fuck up,
Setzer!
Funny, we don't count Floridiots as worthwhile posters. Now fuck off,
before Sam rips you a new one and sends you home to Daddy with you
balls in your mouth.
Marshall Dragoo
RGMW regular
Erik Setzer
>> Don't you live in the middle of Limbo? Australia, I think it's
>> called? We don't count Australia.
>> -Erik
>>
> Hello Captain Clueless! Craig's from the UK - NOTE the 'from' part,
>as in this case it implies he's no longer *in* the UK.
Sorry, I must have confused him with someone else. I haven't kept
that up to date with people here. I apologize, Craig. If you want to
rent a car from Avis, there's a dealer right outside my neighborhood.
Take the eastbound exit off of 9A at Atlantic Blvd. Can't miss it.
-Erik
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Erik Setzer
>> I'll still get rich off these idiots.
>
>You'll be bidding on your own auctions then?
I know the intent of your comment, but it doesn't come off right. If
I'd said "idiots like those guys," it probably would have. But as I'm
not included in "these idiots," it doesn't work - regardless of
whether I am an idiot or not.
Since you didn't expect a serious answer, I won't waste your time or
mine with one.
Blue Raja
news:chdj00d0shd2vids9...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:03:29 GMT, Qrab <qr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >> I'll still get rich off these idiots.
> >
> >You'll be bidding on your own auctions then?
>
> I know the intent of your comment, but it doesn't come off right. If
> I'd said "idiots like those guys," it probably would have. But as I'm
> not included in "these idiots," it doesn't work
Whenever anyone says "idiots", you're included.
--
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Take 'Raja, for example. He's an EVIL little bastard and doesn't have to
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Craig Little
news:64945d90.04011...@posting.google.com...
> "Craig Little" <hindu...@hayoo.com> wrote in message
news:<75CdnUoesJh...@comcast.com>...
> > "Erik Setzer" <er...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:64945d90.04011...@posting.google.com...
> > I mean, who
> > > here doesn't know someone who can paint pretty good figures, and will
> > > do it for a reasonable fee?
> > > -Erik
> >
> > Me.
>
> Don't you live in the middle of Limbo? Australia, I think it's
> called? We don't count Australia.
> -Erik
Richmond, VA, I'm afraidold bean
fog
> "Erik Setzer" <er...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:chdj00d0shd2vids9...@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:03:29 GMT, Qrab <qr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> I'll still get rich off these idiots.
> > >
> > >You'll be bidding on your own auctions then?
> >
> > I know the intent of your comment, but it doesn't come off right. If
> > I'd said "idiots like those guys," it probably would have. But as I'm
> > not included in "these idiots," it doesn't work
>
> Whenever anyone says "idiots", you're included.
That was terribly mean and ugly. Well done!
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Blue Raja
news:MPG.1a753bc87...@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> > Whenever anyone says "idiots", you're included.
>
> That was terribly mean and ugly. Well done!
What can I say; I love my work.
Erik Setzer
<hindu...@hayoo.com> wrote:
>> Don't you live in the middle of Limbo? Australia, I think it's
>> called? We don't count Australia.
>
>Richmond, VA, I'm afraidold bean
Wow. Once again, sorry for the gaff. Doubly sorry, because Richmond
is definitely not Limbo. I grew up in Norfolk, not too far from
there.
Erik Setzer
wrote:
>Blue Raja, (the_blue_ra...@iprimus.com.au) wrote...
>> "Erik Setzer" <er...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:chdj00d0shd2vids9...@4ax.com...
>> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:03:29 GMT, Qrab <qr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> I'll still get rich off these idiots.
>> > >
>> > >You'll be bidding on your own auctions then?
>> >
>> > I know the intent of your comment, but it doesn't come off right. If
>> > I'd said "idiots like those guys," it probably would have. But as I'm
>> > not included in "these idiots," it doesn't work
>>
>> Whenever anyone says "idiots", you're included.
>
>That was terribly mean and ugly. Well done!
Stop complimenting him just to make him feel special. You know he
could have done more. What he should have said was something like:
"The latest printing of the Merriam-Webster English Dictionary has a
new entry for idiot. It reads:
Main Entry: id搏搗t
Pronunciation: 'i-dE-&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin idiota ignorant person, from
Greek idiOtEs one in a private station, layman, ignorant person, from
idios one's own, private; akin to Latin suus one's own -- more at
SUICIDE
Date: 14th century
1 : a person affected with idiocy; especially : a feebleminded person
having a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete
custodial care
2 : a foolish or stupid person
3 : Erik Setzer
- idiot adjective
So by definition, whenever someone mentions the term "idiot", you're
included!"
Can't let the jokes get lazy around here. Damn it, we need more fire!
Bring out the coals and the pitchforks, next time I want to FEEL IT!
Ancient Gamer
Setzer declares...
> Can't let the jokes get lazy around here. Damn it, we need more fire!
> Bring out the coals and the pitchforks, next time I want to FEEL IT!
> -Erik
>
>
pecker look smaller then it already is!
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To reply by e-mail catch the ZZZZZZ's in my addy...
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they go flying by." -- Douglas Adams
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Insane Ranter
"Ancient Gamer" <ancien...@juZZZZZZno.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a765c937...@news.east.earthlink.net...
> Entering the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer, Erik
> Setzer declares...
> > Can't let the jokes get lazy around here. Damn it, we need more fire!
> > Bring out the coals and the pitchforks, next time I want to FEEL IT!
> > -Erik
> >
> >
> Don't marry a woman with big hands. It will make your
> pecker look smaller then it already is!
Personal experience?
Ancient Gamer
Ranter declares...
Nah, my grandaddy told me it, and I took him at his word...
--
Jim M
posted on this day, the 3793rd of September in the year 1993...
To reply by e-mail catch the ZZZZZZ's in my addy...
"I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as
they go flying by." -- Douglas Adams
"Look alive. Here comes a buzzard." -- Walt Kelly (Pogo)
"Don't marry a woman with big hands. It makes your
pecker look smaller."
fog
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:57:15 -0500, fog <f...@blueridgeMOUNTAINS.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Blue Raja, (the_blue_ra...@iprimus.com.au) wrote...
> >> "Erik Setzer" <er...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:chdj00d0shd2vids9...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:03:29 GMT, Qrab <qr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> I'll still get rich off these idiots.
> >> > >
> >> > >You'll be bidding on your own auctions then?
> >> >
> >> > I know the intent of your comment, but it doesn't come off right. If
> >> > I'd said "idiots like those guys," it probably would have. But as I'm
> >> > not included in "these idiots," it doesn't work
> >>
> >> Whenever anyone says "idiots", you're included.
> >
> >That was terribly mean and ugly. Well done!
>
> Stop complimenting him just to make him feel special. You know he
> could have done more. What he should have said was something like:
> So by definition, whenever someone mentions the term "idiot", you're
> included!"
>
> Can't let the jokes get lazy around here. Damn it, we need more fire!
> Bring out the coals and the pitchforks, next time I want to FEEL IT!
Do you really think you're worth the effort?
Insane Ranter
"Ancient Gamer" <ancien...@juZZZZZZno.com> wrote in message
> Entering the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer, Insane
> Ranter declares...
> >
> > "Ancient Gamer" <ancien...@juZZZZZZno.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1a765c937...@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > > Entering the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer, Erik
> > > Setzer declares...
> > > > Can't let the jokes get lazy around here. Damn it, we need more
fire!
> > > > Bring out the coals and the pitchforks, next time I want to FEEL IT!
> > > > -Erik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Don't marry a woman with big hands. It will make your
> > > pecker look smaller then it already is!
> >
> > Personal experience?
> >
>
> Nah, my grandaddy told me it, and I took him at his word...
Your granddaddy has small hands?
Erik Setzer
wrote:
>> Can't let the jokes get lazy around here. Damn it, we need more fire!
>> Bring out the coals and the pitchforks, next time I want to FEEL IT!
>
>Do you really think you're worth the effort?
No more than anyone else, no. Honestly, I expect to be the whipping
boy, but the only way that stays interesting for any length of time is
if the comments are fresh and have some thought to them. Can you
really say you'd be content watching rehashed jokes?
Besides, they don't have the same sting to them...
Erik Setzer
wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:00:01 -0500, fog <f...@blueridgeMOUNTAINS.net>
>wrote:
>
>>> Can't let the jokes get lazy around here. Damn it, we need more fire!
>>> Bring out the coals and the pitchforks, next time I want to FEEL IT!
>>
>>Do you really think you're worth the effort?
>
>No more than anyone else, no. Honestly, I expect to be the whipping
>boy, but the only way that stays interesting for any length of time is
>if the comments are fresh and have some thought to them. Can you
>really say you'd be content watching rehashed jokes?
>
>Besides, they don't have the same sting to them...
Ah, screw it. Me commenting about quality of flames is like Ranter
telling someone to read the FAQ.
Robert Singers
> Don't marry a woman with big hands. It will make your
> pecker look smaller then it already is!
As I said to a troll on news.groups. When you're really short, everything
is up.
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