[40k] Starting paint gear
MechD
Hey guys,
Preparing a list for what to get to start painting a 40K army. So far
I am thinking Space Marines or possibly Eldar/Dark Eldar..
What I would need..
Brushes, I would obviously think a fine detail, a detail, a standard,
and a small dry brush would probably be a good start. For primer I was
thinking that the basic GW spray on white would probably work best.
Black could be harder to get light colors over, and I have heard that
the grey stuff isn't that great (sucks if ur SW iI guess:(
Anything else that I should def have on my list to get besides basic
colors for which ever army I end up using? :)
Thanks for your help guys.
MechD
Noland Gregory
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> Brushes, I would obviously think a fine detail, a detail, a standard,
> and a small dry brush would probably be a good start.
Don't bother with Citadel brushes. My experiance with them is that they all
ware out way to fast. The only one from the last set I bought that is still
good is the drybrushe. Go to an art store and get your brushes there. You
will pay less and get better quality. My brush set consist of a size 4
round brush (for realy rough work), a size 8 shader (flat brush about 1/4 an
inch across for large flat areas), a size 0 shader (much smaller flat brush
for small flat area), a 0, 00, and 10/0 round for detail work. The more 0's
the smaller the brush. The 10/0 can do almost any small work you need.
> For primer I was
> thinking that the basic GW spray on white would probably work best.
> Black could be harder to get light colors over, and I have heard that
> the grey stuff isn't that great (sucks if ur SW iI guess:(
Primer realy bepends on what you are final paint scheam is. You are correct
to avoid grey however.
> Anything else that I should def have on my list to get besides basic
> colors for which ever army I end up using? :)
If Citadel makes a spray can close to your painting scheam, get it. Ultra
Marine blue spraypaint is my best friend. I also have a good set of rubber
gloves. They let you hold what you are baseing without primeing yourself.
If you plan to use Citadel paints they will also help you open those damn
stuck paint lids.
Noland
nboylie
"MechD"
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> I am thinking Space Marines or possibly Eldar/Dark Eldar..
For primer I was
> thinking that the basic GW spray on white would probably work best.
> Black could be harder to get light colors over.
If you go for dark eldar, I would go for a black primer, since you will
probably be painting in a dark colour scheme. it depends what chapter you
play to decide for SM.
Ultramarines or BA or any bright colour chapter:White
Dark angels black templars, any darker chapter: Black
you will also need matte varnish for your metal figs and your inked figs. GW
ink shines and it looks like crap, so the matte dulls it off. metal figs
chip with pretty much anything, so slap a coat of it on those also to stop
chipping.
Whatever colour scheme you pick you should buy a darker ink
than the colour to wash. (EG. flesh wash for Blood red)and buy a black ink
for your metal painted areas. it makes it look very good.
post for more questions.
MechD
Nboylie
Shawn Campbell
> Brushes, I would obviously think a fine detail, a detail, a standard,
> and a small dry brush would probably be a good start. For primer I was
> thinking that the basic GW spray on white would probably work best.
> Black could be harder to get light colors over, and I have heard that
> the grey stuff isn't that great (sucks if ur SW iI guess:(
I got a multi-pack of brushes from "Fred Meyer's" (grocery/drug/clothing
store). It cost about $5, same price as 1 lousy GW brush. My wife and I
argued about brushes for awhile. She used the generic brushes and I used the
GW brushes. I was a GW purist... well, I've learned my lesson, any my
painting has improved!
I typically use black primer, but I usually have darker armies. My wifes
Fantasy Bretonnians are primed white, really brings the bright colors out.
The black primer makes them dark and depressing.
My space marine army has a colour scheme similair to Imperial fists. I spray
primer black, spray Ultramarines Blue. Wash with 50/50 midnight blue and
water, with a bit of blue ink thrown in. Two washes. Highlight with Space
Wolves gray. At first, I thought it'd be too light, but I was very pleased.
Castrol Super Clean. Perfect for stripping mini's. I use an old picklejar.
Fill 50/50 CSC and water. Load full of models. Seal the lid on (to keep the
smell away and my wifes rolling pin) usually 4-6 hours and the paint comes
off with running water. (plastics tend to be stained by the primer, but
metals come clean).
Practice your color scheme on metal models. It's my experience they are
easier to strip and repaint.
> Anything else that I should def have on my list to get besides basic
> colors for which ever army I end up using? :)
Get a piece of ceramic tile at your DIY store. Great for mixing colors and
wiping off paint for drybrushing.
Drop cloth for the table your are working at. Newspaper is to time consuming
to spread out.
Lamp with a "natural light". You will get a better look at your model while
you paint.
Get your highlights and shadow colors. Get inks if you like what they do. I
use the windows color pallete. Find the color you want, then pull the
light/dark slider up and down to find your highlight and shade. Try to find
paints that match closely. I had originally used lightning blue to shade my
marines because that's what the GW painting guide said, I used the color
pallete and found space wolves gray was a lot closer to what I wanted.
Always waterdown your paint before use. (mix water and paint on a pallete)
Get a pair of "robo-grips" or other strong pliers. No matter how careful you
are, your going to have paint pots that will not come open.
I try to complete one unit at a time. Start to finish. Wash (wash the
plastic or metal in soapy water), assemble, paint, seal. Then go on to the
next unit. I just stripped paint from 4000+ pts of space marines and am now
painting them. I am dieing to assemble models again, but I have sworn to
complete this before spending more money. Do yourself a favor and don't burn
yourself out on painting. Take breaks, play games, assemble models, interact
with society.
Anyways, that's my 2 cents.
-Shawn
Richard Lobinske
>and a small dry brush would probably be a good start.
For details, I recommend well-pointed script or liner brushes, the longer
bristles hold more paint, and allow a little more oops room when dipping the
brush into the paint. For drybrushing, try to get a stiff, flat brush (1/8" if
you want a small one).
>For primer I was
>thinking that the basic GW spray on white would probably work best.
>Black could be harder to get light colors over, and I have heard that
>the grey stuff isn't that great (sucks if ur SW iI guess:(
I use grey Krylon primer and find it works well, don't recommend spending the
extra money on the GW primers because of their notoriously uneven quality and
touchy requirements. I prefer a grey primer because that will have less effect
on overlying colors than either black or white will.
>Anything else that I should def have on my list to get besides basic
>colors for which ever army I end up using? :)
Gloss and flat clear finishes (varnishes) to protect your paint jobs. If you
will be using decals, get some decal setting solution (Microsol/Microset,
Solvaset, Decalset).
Death before dishonor,
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