[PAINT] Horrid Paint Jobs
nboylie
models? Gah! it happened to me yesterday. This I would say 10 year old kid
plonks his "carrying case" on the table(pencil case filled to the brim with
marines) The case is jammed shut and the lid is about to burst open, he
stuffed his whole army in the thing! He lifts a wad of 750 points and plonks
them on the painting table, sorts them out and gets out his brush. Its a 2
inch wide brush and some brand of black paint. He completely soaks his brush
in paint slathers it over a marine, gets out some red, paints the gun red
and then, whips out the green and paints the base. WHABAM! hes done a marine
in 45 seconds, I'm not exaggerating, 45 seconds. It dries and I look at it,
I cant even see the eye cavity on the marine's helmet. I mean, Ive seen bad,
but this was terrible!
Some other kid was there, he had a dark angel army. The whole army was
just painted dark angel green. Ive gotta stop bieng so hard on myself for my
painting.... I should enter one of my local contests, I could probaly
win...... oh I should get a site up with some of my pics. I can slap
something up with some crappy web page maker somewhere, maybe netscape.... I
would like your opinion...
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New and improved nboylie
The Ancient Gamer
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> Ever go to play a game with someone and scream in horror at someone's
> models? Gah! it happened to me yesterday. This I would say 10 year old
kid
> plonks his "carrying case" on the table(pencil case filled to the brim
with
> marines) The case is jammed shut and the lid is about to burst open, he
> stuffed his whole army in the thing! He lifts a wad of 750 points and
plonks
> them on the painting table, sorts them out and gets out his brush. Its a 2
> inch wide brush and some brand of black paint. He completely soaks his
brush
> in paint slathers it over a marine, gets out some red, paints the gun red
> and then, whips out the green and paints the base. WHABAM! hes done a
marine
> in 45 seconds, I'm not exaggerating, 45 seconds. It dries and I look at
it,
> I cant even see the eye cavity on the marine's helmet. I mean, Ive seen
bad,
> but this was terrible!
>
Okay, I'll explain something to you that you may have missed, when you saw
this. Tho that kid these are toys, nothing more, nothing less. The
tournament rules say that his "toys" need three colors if he wants to play,
Black, Red & Green, that is three colors. He has met the minimum requirement
and can now play with his toys. If he is happy with the way they look, there
is nothing else in the entire universe that matters.
Just make sure that you are happy with YOUR models, and don't worry about
him, if he asks how you got yours to look so much better then his, take some
time and explain it to him, show him the size brush you use, and encourage
him to try and do a better job. If on the other hand, he is satisfied, and
doesn't care about what other people think. That is his right, he has met
the minimum requirements.
> Some other kid was there, he had a dark angel army. The whole army was
> just painted dark angel green. Ive gotta stop bieng so hard on myself for
my
> painting.... I should enter one of my local contests, I could probaly
> win...... oh I should get a site up with some of my pics. I can slap
> something up with some crappy web page maker somewhere, maybe netscape....
I
> would like your opinion...
>
NO! You should always be your worst critic, look at everything you paint,
and ask yourself if it is the best you can do. We will be happy to look at
your models and make recommendations though, but always expect the worst
when you post a picture, that way if you get good comments it will make you
happy, and if you get bad comments it will not bother you very much.
--
Jim M
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JP PLAY
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The Ancient Gamer
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> Man that just scares me I spent at lest 45 minutes on each of my guys.
>
>
which part and took close to two hours to finish (not including drying
times, with drying times it's close to six).
BobK
Who cares what a 10 year old does with his minis? If the kid can even
grasp half the rules and strategies involved with the game, than he is
ahead of the game. Paint as well as you can and don't worry about
anybody elses figs.
I used to put baseball cards in my bicycle wheels to make my bike sound
like a motorcycle. Just how many Dave Winfield rookie cardsdid I ruin?
I was a kid. I had fun. I was happy. Get it?
Bob K
Kellopyy
> models?
Everytime I field my own army, with models that are painted by me,
this happens. I really can't paint, so I have given it up ('cept for
spraying models). I agree that this doesn't make my army look good,
but it looks this way better than if I had painted it.
No matter how long (I continued painting on irregular basis for about
6 months with WH40K models, that still look 'orrible) I tried
improving my painting, my skills didn't improve enough to make models
look as good as they did before painting. That is why I like spraying
some paint over models if I have to "paint" them. Best thing in
spraying is that it is fast and with certain models (treemen and
dryads for example) they actualy look very nice when sprayed with
different colors (lighter and darker brown and green are my
favourites).
I hope I didn't offend anyone by saying this, but well remember that
gave up painting because my opponents at that time were happier facing
me after I gave up painting.
-Kellopyy
Donovan N
favor the better painted army.
--donovan
Torak
> models? Gah! it happened to me yesterday. This I would say 10 year old
kid
> plonks his "carrying case" on the table(pencil case filled to the brim
with
> marines) The case is jammed shut and the lid is about to burst open, he
> stuffed his whole army in the thing! He lifts a wad of 750 points and
plonks
> them on the painting table, sorts them out and gets out his brush. Its a 2
> inch wide brush and some brand of black paint. He completely soaks his
brush
> in paint slathers it over a marine, gets out some red, paints the gun red
> and then, whips out the green and paints the base. WHABAM! hes done a
marine
> in 45 seconds, I'm not exaggerating, 45 seconds. It dries and I look at
it,
> I cant even see the eye cavity on the marine's helmet. I mean, Ive seen
bad,
> but this was terrible!
I knew a guy who used to tie a thread around a marine's leg and just dunk it
into a pot of silver enamel. Then he'd get a Citadel Large Brush and add the
(rather optimistically named) "detail" with gold enamel.
Torak
> >
> The Insane Squat I painted has between 4 and 9 coats of paint, depending
on
> which part and took close to two hours to finish (not including drying
> times, with drying times it's close to six).
On my marines (not on my Tau, they're better) I tend to sort of half-cheat.
Their armour is black, so I usually settle for spraying them black, and then
adding fairly large amounts of detail. So the main coat is just a single
coat, but I put a lot of effort into detail. Looks pretty decent on the
battlefield, anyway.
glcym...@yahoo.com
>I knew a guy who used to tie a thread around a marine's leg and just dunk it
>into a pot of silver enamel. Then he'd get a Citadel Large Brush and add the
>(rather optimistically named) "detail" with gold enamel.
>
>
bthom37
wrote:
That's similar to how I did my Guardians. Dunked the torso in blue
ink, painted the helmet & arms separately. The Guardians had already
pissed me off, however; no model should have more pieces than its
point value.
Brian
Tahrik Mili
"Torak" <to...@andrew-perry.com> wrote in message
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> I knew a guy who used to tie a thread around a marine's leg and just dunk
it
> into a pot of silver enamel. Then he'd get a Citadel Large Brush and add
the
> (rather optimistically named) "detail" with gold enamel.
I really oughta try that sometime. Mine take too long the way I do them,
alternatives are always welcome ;)
Mil
Ville Salo
wrote:
>That's similar to how I did my Guardians. Dunked the torso in blue
>ink, painted the helmet & arms separately. The Guardians had already
>pissed me off, however; no model should have more pieces than its
>point value.
Empire multi-parts 'nuff said.
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Ville Salo
ville.salo(at)uta.fi
Adam Durley
Ville Salo <ville...@uta.fi> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:51:28 GMT, bth...@nospam.ku.edu (bthom37)
> wrote:
>
> >That's similar to how I did my Guardians. Dunked the torso in blue
> >ink, painted the helmet & arms separately. The Guardians had already
> >pissed me off, however; no model should have more pieces than its
> >point value.
>
> Empire multi-parts 'nuff said.
>
Skaven Slaves...
6 parts for a damn 2pt model...
--
AD
ivornell
and clean, another two hours to position and glue and I spend about 3 hours
painting each miniature. This is my first Warhammer army, although I've been
painting and modelling for close to fifteen years.
I sort of feel sorry for these people who want to play a game but have no
ability when it comes to painting. For most people, paying a professional
painter is out of the question, so what else do they do?
I've yet to play a game of Warhammer against poorly painted figures, but I
do believe it would detract from the overall experience.
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Janet Quick
3ruo8.125$gj7.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com, "Adam Durley" dared to
opine:
You've got the night goblins beat by a tail.
John Hwang
Don't top-post (as you did). Reply at the bottom, in context (as I'm doing).
It makes the whole thing much easier to follow for others.
>I recently bought a Dwarf regiment (16 minis) and it took me 3 hours to cut
>and clean, another two hours to position and glue
OK.
> and I spend about 3 hours painting each miniature.
Oops. I see the word "each". This is what's killing you. Take a page from
Henry Ford and set up an assembly line. Paint one color at a time, across the
entire regiment. When you're ready for the next color, the first mini will be
dry.
>This is my first Warhammer army, although I've been
>painting and modelling for close to fifteen years.
Yeah, but I doubt you make 5+ of something at a time...
>I sort of feel sorry for these people who want to play a game but have no
>ability when it comes to painting. For most people, paying a professional
>painter is out of the question, so what else do they do?
Practice, practice, practice.
>I've yet to play a game of Warhammer against poorly painted figures, but I
>do believe it would detract from the overall experience.
It does. Believe me. But it can't be helped.
--- John Hwang "JohnHw...@cs.com.no.com"
\-|-/
| A.K.D. F.E.M.C.
| Horned Blood Cross Terror LED Speed Jagd Destiny
Torak
> >ability when it comes to painting. For most people, paying a professional
> >painter is out of the question, so what else do they do?
>
> Practice, practice, practice.
Yup.
> >I've yet to play a game of Warhammer against poorly painted figures, but
I
> >do believe it would detract from the overall experience.
>
> It does. Believe me. But it can't be helped.
I don't often agree with John, but here I've agreed with him on three
separate points in one single post!
* Production line good.
* Painting practice good.
* Poor painting does detract from the game.
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: Ever go to play a game with someone and scream in horror at someone's
: models? Gah! it happened to me yesterday.
I've never screamed in horror, but have laughed loudly in such a
situation. My friend was playing the game, not me. My friend is not a
bad painter, not the best with details, but he does pretty well otherwise.
The one thing he doesn't do (I don't either) is flock his bases and just
paints them green. So my friend is going to play a pick up game at a local
store and starts pulling out his minis. His opponent starts ranting at
him about how his bases aren't flocked. Guy goes on for close to 10
minuts about flocking and how it makes the minis better and how it really
should be done and how he isn't sure if he wants to play my friend,
because he doesn't flock and so on and so on. Then this idiot goes to
pull out his own army. I'm expecting to see a nicely painted army after
this guy's rant. Instead he starts dropping squat minis on the table (one
of the 2 times I have actually seen 40k squat armies in use I might add).
They were the ugliest things I have ever seen. Even the kid who you
described in your post sounds like he had better paint coverage than this
guy did. It honestly looked like his minis were painted by a 4 year old.
Being the class acts that we are my friend and I start laughing
hysterically. I normally wouldn't have done so, but after his diatribe on
base flocking I expected some gorgeous looking minis...His bases were
flocked, but so what? his minis still looked like crap...
I've helped run painting workshops for players of various ages in the past
so really like helping people get a leg up in that aspect of the hobby,
but that guy just took the cake for us...
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The Ancient Gamer
> nboylie (ooga...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> : Ever go to play a game with someone and scream in horror at someone's
> : models? Gah! it happened to me yesterday.
>
> I've never screamed in horror, but have laughed loudly in such a
> situation. My friend was playing the game, not me. My friend is not a
> bad painter, not the best with details, but he does pretty well otherwise.
> The one thing he doesn't do (I don't either) is flock his bases and just
> paints them green. So my friend is going to play a pick up game at a local
> store and starts pulling out his minis. His opponent starts ranting at
> him about how his bases aren't flocked. Guy goes on for close to 10
> minuts about flocking and how it makes the minis better and how it really
> should be done and how he isn't sure if he wants to play my friend,
> because he doesn't flock and so on and so on. Then this idiot goes to
> pull out his own army. I'm expecting to see a nicely painted army after
> this guy's rant. Instead he starts dropping squat minis on the table (one
> of the 2 times I have actually seen 40k squat armies in use I might add).
> They were the ugliest things I have ever seen. Even the kid who you
> described in your post sounds like he had better paint coverage than this
> guy did. It honestly looked like his minis were painted by a 4 year old.
> Being the class acts that we are my friend and I start laughing
> hysterically. I normally wouldn't have done so, but after his diatribe on
> base flocking I expected some gorgeous looking minis...His bases were
> flocked, but so what? his minis still looked like crap...
>
I think the idea that a mini must be flocked is the stupidest think I have
ever heard of...I had some mini's that I carved the base to look like flag
stones, and then painted, in gray's and browns. It probably took me ten
times the amount of time it would have to flock, and I really liked the
final look... Went to a game, and got docked points because my bases weren't
flocked, I was very surprised. That was many years ago, and I started using
sand and painting it shortly afterwards. It's easy cheap, and I don't get
dinged for not flocking my bases; but I still think it is stupid...
As to badly painted miniatures, I have seen my share of them, but it never
bothered me. I look at it from the perspective that some people just don't
like painting or don't care about detail. If they take the time to put some
paint on their figures I'm happy, the one thing I really hate is seeing a
massive army with no paint at all or just primed with no other effort
taken... That bothers me allot more then seeing some figs that some one at
least took the time to slop paint on and pick out one or two details...
In the end it's as I said before, to some people the figures are nothing
more then toys to play a game, those people will do the minimum required,
for them the fun is in the playing, and they will often do anything it takes
to win. Then there are people who like to play, but enjoy painting as well,
and those are usually the fun people, as they generally follow the rules,
but are not prone to cheese or beardy styles of play. Lastly there are the
painters, who could care less about the game as long as they get to show off
their work...
There are of course exceptions in each category...
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Jim M
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RT Maitreya
> Went to a game, and got docked points because my bases weren't
> flocked, I was very surprised. That was many years ago, and I started using
> sand and painting it shortly afterwards. It's easy cheap, and I don't get
> dinged for not flocking my bases; but I still think it is stupid...
A) That tournament was run by a complete retard.
B) Years ago were the "dark ages" where they asked
you whether or not you used GW paints and had Goblin Green
C) The tournament was run by a complete retard, one who
has no business dealing with the public regarding The Hobby.
D) The tournament was run by a complete retard, who should
probably be stripped of any association with The Company.
Those are the only four reasons I could come up with.
RTM
The Ancient Gamer
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> The Ancient Gamer wrote:
>
> > Went to a game, and got docked points because my bases weren't
> > flocked, I was very surprised. That was many years ago, and I started
using
> > sand and painting it shortly afterwards. It's easy cheap, and I don't
get
> > dinged for not flocking my bases; but I still think it is stupid...
>
> A) That tournament was run by a complete retard.
Aside from his stupidity about bases, he was a damn good judge...
> B) Years ago were the "dark ages" where they asked
> you whether or not you used GW paints and had Goblin Green
No pre-dark ages, before GW Paints...um...before D&D even...
> C) The tournament was run by a complete retard, one who
> has no business dealing with the public regarding The Hobby.
But he knew how to get the mini's he was our "pusher" for all things
Napoleon and ACW...
> D) The tournament was run by a complete retard, who should
> probably be stripped of any association with The Company.
>
Okay, I'll concede this last point to you...
Blackheart
hmmm.. who won and how buddy-buddy was he with the judge?
I'll never participate in a tournament.
Torak
> situation. My friend was playing the game, not me. My friend is not a
> bad painter, not the best with details, but he does pretty well otherwise.
> The one thing he doesn't do (I don't either) is flock his bases and just
> paints them green. So my friend is going to play a pick up game at a local
> store and starts pulling out his minis. His opponent starts ranting at
> him about how his bases aren't flocked. Guy goes on for close to 10
> minuts about flocking and how it makes the minis better and how it really
> should be done and how he isn't sure if he wants to play my friend,
> because he doesn't flock and so on and so on. Then this idiot goes to
> pull out his own army. I'm expecting to see a nicely painted army after
> this guy's rant. Instead he starts dropping squat minis on the table (one
> of the 2 times I have actually seen 40k squat armies in use I might add).
> They were the ugliest things I have ever seen. Even the kid who you
> described in your post sounds like he had better paint coverage than this
> guy did. It honestly looked like his minis were painted by a 4 year old.
> Being the class acts that we are my friend and I start laughing
> hysterically. I normally wouldn't have done so, but after his diatribe on
> base flocking I expected some gorgeous looking minis...His bases were
> flocked, but so what? his minis still looked like crap...
Poetic justice, mate, poetic justice...
I don't flock, I use sand and drybrushing. All down to personal taste,
innit?
Torak
Reckon all four apply. Plus, of course, that the complete retard running it
was also the stupidest complete retard on the planet.
Insane Ranter
Yup.. yup... spraying painting is much much easier to do mairnes with....