Why Paint Your Figures?
JAH
use that term loosely, the merits of painting your miniatures I felt I
had to point out one channel of thought that I do not believe anyone
has mentioned.
Investment. No, I don't mean monetary investment. I'm referring to
the investment of your time, and the investment of your skill, and the
investment of your creativity.
I come from the computer games industry.
(pauses to let the wailing and gnashing of teeth subside.)
As part of our next project we will be covering Warmaster as a
community and news web portal.
What we have found is that any game, whether it be a computer game,
board game, or a pen and paper game, is better if the player has an
investment in it.
Painting the miniatures in Warmaster gives most people a great sense
of accomplishment. They become *your* army moreso than if you just
stuck them on bases and played the game for the sake of playing.
When your hand-painted bone giant crashes into the hapless High Elf
spearmen it is more enjoyable when you have invested the time in
painting the gargantuan beast. It also hurts a lot more when he
falls in battle.
Painting also gives the player a secondary benefit, immersion.
Painted units look more realistic. It is easier to imagine a battle
between painted carrion and painted eagles than one between two pieces
of cardboard or between two white metal globs stuck on a black piece
of plastic.
Warmaster, and I'm sure Warhammer, are great games partially because
they give the player the following things:
1) Investment
2) Choice (army allocation, army look, terrain choice.. etc, etc,
etc,)
3) Emotion (How happy do you feel before and during and after the
game? How many other emotions run through your head while you play?)
Warmaster is a truly elegant game. It can be played simply or with a
great complexity that we have not even begun to see.
Hopefully I have made at least one person go, "Hey, he's right. I do
that."
I look forward to working with this community for the next few years.
Hopefully I can bring some of my gaming knowledge to its members. I
know that they will educate me beyond my wildest dreams in respect to
minatures.
See you on the battlefield.
JAH
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some smart-ass remarks!
I hope everyone on this news-group reads this. The same things are true
for any miniatures game.
http://community.webtv.net/Tiger40000/CodexImperialTigers
GB Bowes
>
> After crawling through numerous threads where people debated, and I'll
> use that term loosely, the merits of painting your miniatures I felt I
> had to point out one channel of thought that I do not believe anyone
> has mentioned.
>
<snip merits of painting figs>
Altho I agree with your post about painting your miniatures, I'd like to
warn you this topic is banned in the r.g.m.w faq due to the highly
flammable subject matter.
- GB
JAH
Thank you.
My comment was not a pro or con comment though. It was merely an
outsider's look at what makes a game successful. Nearly all good
computer games have the factors I mentioned. I believe that those
factors are also found in good board games, miniature games, etc.
That is not to say that the factors I mentioned are a requirement for
a good game. Tetris for example has very little in the way of
investment or emotion. It was a very successful game nonetheless.
My intention was not to cause a flame-war. So far so good. I do
appreciate your warning however.
JAH
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CURSE ON YOU! U EEZ FLAME ED NOWZ. GRR CHEESE!!! BE FLAMEY AND BURN WITH
FLAMEYNESS YOU FAQ BREAKY FLAME BAITY MAN. POO IS YOUR GOD, AND YOU
SMELL. I NO LIKE PAINT. PAINT BAD. FNORD. MY FIGURES ARE SO UNPAINTED
THEY ARE NEGATIVELY PAINTED. PAINT BAD. FLAME GOOD. FLAME! FLAME! I'M
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> <snip>
I don't play Warmaster myself, but I totally comprehend what you're talking
about. You're 100% right.
Angulion
<< After crawling through numerous threads where people debated, and I'll use
that term loosely, the merits of painting your miniatures...
[SNIP!]
..."Hey, he's right. I do that.">>
Yeah, I do that.
<<I look forward to working with this community for the next few years.>>
Hope you brought your whip and chair to deal with the lions....
<< Hopefully I can bring some of my gaming knowledge to its members. I know
that they will educate me beyond my wildest dreams in respect to minatures.>>
With respect to miniature games as a whole, I daresay there are other
newsgroups that might prove more productive for you. There certainly seems to
be less static anyway on r.g.m.misc.
<< See you on the battlefield. >>
You've just stepped on it. Welcome to r.g.m.warhammer.....good luck....
RT Maitreya
Angulion wrote:
> With respect to miniature games as a whole, I daresay there are other
> newsgroups that might prove more productive for you. There certainly seems to
> be less static anyway on r.g.m.misc.
*yawn* yes, you are right about that.
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Nightmare
wrote:
<snip>
>After crawling through numerous threads where people debated, and I'll
>had to point out one channel of thought that I do not believe anyone
>has mentioned.
>
>the investment of your time, and the investment of your skill, and the
>investment of your creativity.
>
What a load of nonsence...... You sound as if you are speaking for
all gamers.
Of course a table full of painted figures look good, but if the drive
of the hobby is playing, then painting comes in last.
I have no problems about buying 1000 - 1200 points worth of army, and
then throwing them on the table as they are.
When i have been at a gaming evening, and i have had a good game,
win or lose, then I mesure the result in how mentally tired I am
afterwards.
Not in "wow my army was painted finer than his".
Of course my figs get painted eventually, but I find it boring, having
to wait to play untill my latest 1000 points are painted. Especially
when you know how slow I am at painting.
And the guys in my gaming club, don't have a problem with it either.
regards
Nightmare
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and
some days the statue"
Nate Finch
>I have no problems about buying 1000 - 1200 points worth of army, and
>then throwing them on the table as they are.
>When i have been at a gaming evening, and i have had a good game,
>win or lose, then I mesure the result in how mentally tired I am
>afterwards.
>Not in "wow my army was painted finer than his".
I agree 100%. I got into the game because it looked like fun to play, not
because I'm some great artist. I want to play. Sure, I love the way a
unit looks when it's all painted up nicely, but that's not my reason for
playing. Maybe other people really love to paint. That's cool, but not
everyone has the same reasons for participating in this hobby.
>Of course my figs get painted eventually, but I find it boring, having
>to wait to play untill my latest 1000 points are painted. Especially
>when you know how slow I am at painting.
>
>And the guys in my gaming club, don't have a problem with it either.
Yup, same here. I have a half painted Wood Elf army, and a totally
unpainted Lizardmen army (I've been working 75 hour weeks since I bought
them, they'll get done in due time).
-Nate
JAH
>>Investment. No, I don't mean monetary investment. I'm referring to
>>the investment of your time, and the investment of your skill, and the
>>investment of your creativity.
>>
>><snip>
>
>What a load of nonsence...... You sound as if you are speaking for
>all gamers.
Apparently I hit a nerve. I certainly do not speak for all gamers.
Nor do I want to. My opinion on games is formulated from years of
working in the industry. Does that make it right? The answer is a
resounding maybe. It certainly doesn't make your opinion wrong.
There are so many schools of thought in the gaming industry that I
could literally write an article a day for 6 months and not put them
all in front of you.
The one that I happen to believe most accurately reflects what makes
good games great is the one I posted previously.
>Of course a table full of painted figures look good, but if the drive
>of the hobby is playing, then painting comes in last.
I obviously was not clear enough. The drive of any game is playing.
You are quite correct. That is, in essence, what makes it a game.
The investment, and other factors I mentioned are what enhance the
gameplay.
>
>I have no problems about buying 1000 - 1200 points worth of army, and
>then throwing them on the table as they are.
>When i have been at a gaming evening, and i have had a good game,
>win or lose, then I mesure the result in how mentally tired I am
>afterwards.
>Not in "wow my army was painted finer than his".
That wasn't the point. :) The point was that most players will be
more attached to units that they have painted than those that they
have not.
I would bet that most players remove non-painted units as casualties
before removing painted ones. Why? Investment. They feel more of
a connection to the painted armies than to those that are still bare.
>
>Of course my figs get painted eventually, but I find it boring, having
>to wait to play untill my latest 1000 points are painted. Especially
>when you know how slow I am at painting.
Here is a question I will put to you. Why do you paint them at all?
Does it enhance the gaming experience for you?
Remember, I never once said that figures must be painted in order to
play the game and have fun. I only said that I felt it enhanced the
gameplay.
>
>And the guys in my gaming club, don't have a problem with it either.
Nor should they. You play the game to have fun. Paint should not
take the fun away. It could be the sugar in your coffee or the icing
on your cake though. It could be that little extra that makes the
experience all the more enjoyable.
Hopefully I clarified my thoughts for you. Once our site is live to
the public I will open a public forum so that topics like this can be
discussed in a depth not really available in a newsgroup.
See you on the battlefield.
JAH
>
>I agree 100%. I got into the game because it looked like fun to play, not
>because I'm some great artist. I want to play. Sure, I love the way a
>unit looks when it's all painted up nicely, but that's not my reason for
>playing. Maybe other people really love to paint. That's cool, but not
>everyone has the same reasons for participating in this hobby.
Very true. Apparently I was not clear enough. My point wasn't that
painting was a necessity to play. My point was that painting
enchanced the gameplay experience.
Shim
(...)
>FLAMALAMA DING DONG?
I swear this was a line in an ELO song.
-Shim.
Nate Finch
>On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:24:59 -0400, Nate Finch <na...@wpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>>I agree 100%. I got into the game because it looked like fun to play, not
>>because I'm some great artist. I want to play. Sure, I love the way a
>>unit looks when it's all painted up nicely, but that's not my reason for
>>playing. Maybe other people really love to paint. That's cool, but not
>>everyone has the same reasons for participating in this hobby.
>
>Very true. Apparently I was not clear enough. My point wasn't that
>painting was a necessity to play. My point was that painting
>enchanced the gameplay experience.
Yes, I can see that. Much in the way cheerleaders enhance a football
game. They don't change the game at all, but they make it more visually
appealing, and if the other side has them and your side doesn't, you're
going to feel like they have some kind of psychological advantage.
It's good to see someone on this newsgroup with a level head and the
ability to understand someone else's viewpoint. I'm fairly new, but most
of what I've seen is bickering. I hope to see more posts like these.
-Nate
Amin_Ibrahim
uniforms, and a bunch of guys getting together in jeans, sweats, etc. Good
point though. I personally love playing with painted miniatures, it builds
an attachment to them.
Amin
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for @2 years (well, a short brigade - 2 regiments. So shoot me!)
I gotta agree about two things here; one, painted miniatures are a lot more
fun to run. Two, there's too damn many whiners and b!+c&#$ here; if they
insist on being so anti-social, let 'em get a NG of their own, and leave
this one for the folks who just wanna play GW games.
However, the w&b bunch who gripe about the prices of GW merchandise DO tend
to grab my attention, and occasionally I tend to agree with them. But then,
I'm an old fart with a memory long enough to remember buying an AMT Mustang
for $5.00, including tax!
So shoot me again. Big deal.
The Mad Yank
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Nightmare
wrote:
<snip>
>Hopefully I clarified my thoughts for you. Once our site is live to
>the public I will open a public forum so that topics like this can be
>discussed in a depth not really available in a newsgroup.
>
>See you on the battlefield.
>
<snip>
How nice to have a reply without @$%&*^#@@ included. :-)
I see that we have a fairly similar view on the game... And also how
true that casualties almost allways are from the unpainted figs.
I will be looking forward to your open forum. Keep up the good work.
May your victories be many and bloody...
Regards
Moramarth
Finch <na...@wpi.edu> writes
>Yup, same here. I have a half painted Wood Elf army, and a totally
>unpainted Lizardmen army (I've been working 75 hour weeks since I bought
>them, they'll get done in due time).
>
>-Nate
>
>
to finish painting three men and a god so far this year) to suggest
someone working your hours could still get some paint on figures, but
here goes...
Plan A:
If you're not fussed about going back and doing a super paint job on the
Lizzies, assemble 'em, wash 'em, line 'em up and soak 'em with a dark
green (or blue, or sand, or whatever you prefer) spray can (or if you
can spare the time, several light coats), use a modelling enamel
designed for plastics (not a cellulose-based one for cars) and you can
skip undercoating, then use another can of a lighter tone of a similar
colour (this one can be acrylic) to give 'em a light dusting. Put some
colour on bits that stick out, maybe brown on spear shafts and bow
staves, metallics on weapon blades (and shields, if you want 'em
gold...), maybe a bit more colour on command figures and characters.
Paint bases and add flock of your choice - the latter works wonders for
the overall look. Don't bother varnishing, that way you can go back and
add more details later (or, if you're like me, find you've got something
else to do) and if handling starts to wear off the paint or discolour
it, it will just encourage you to finish the job. Try it on one unit of
plastics, skinks or the like, that you won't be too upset about if it
turns out bad, and see if it works for you.
Plan B:
This is the same as Plan A but the first spray should be a lighter tone
and left to dry well, then washed with a similar but darker shade of oil
paint thinned until it's just tinted thinners. (Some people use dilute
ink, but I don't seem to get such good results that way.) If the tint
pools where there should be highlights let it get touch-dry and a quick
rub over with one of those bit of plastic sponge you get in blister
packs does the trick - not too hard or you'll take off the base colour.
Plan A has been shown to me but I haven't tried yet, it should be
quicker than Plan B which is a variant on a technique I've used on a
couple of dragons and more extensively on 1:3000 ships and 1:300 AFVs.
I've a friend who paints quite well, but for his latest 15mm phalanx
he's just put several ranks on a common base, sprayed it black and put a
bit of colour on only where his brush can reach. Massed on the table,
they look O.K. You can't abuse 28mms to the same extent, but you don't
have to get all the detail.
My own preference is for rules with small armies of well-painted
figures, but as I no longer have the time or the capability to do a
decent job I've been looking for short-cuts, and have been surprised at
how satisfactory a basic paint job can look. Given that last year one
such small HOTT army of mine which half-a dozen years ago I would have
regarded as crap managed to get placed in a local painting competition
suggests that many gamers (there will always be a few "all my figures
are Golden Demon standard" types about) are just happy to see anything
with a half-way decent paint job on the table.
Cheers,
--
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Moramarth
<jkra...@mail.bcpl.net> writes
>
>However, the w&b bunch who gripe about the prices of GW merchandise DO tend
>to grab my attention, and occasionally I tend to agree with them. But then,
>I'm an old fart with a memory long enough to remember buying an AMT Mustang
>for $5.00, including tax!
(MPC '67 Pontiac GTO, released by Airfix in the UK, Seventeen Shillings
and Sixpence. Still got one of the buggers half-built somewhere.)
>
>So shoot me again. Big deal.
>
>The Mad Yank
>
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John Secker
<jkra...@mail.bcpl.net> writes
>However, the w&b bunch who gripe about the prices of GW merchandise DO tend
>to grab my attention, and occasionally I tend to agree with them. But then,
>I'm an old fart with a memory long enough to remember buying an AMT Mustang
>for $5.00, including tax!
>
>
anyway.
--
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Nate Finch
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I find a greater pleasure with a good paint job than possibly winning a
game (as it lasts imeasurably longer!). But then I can spend days on a
single minature, and only use it every now and then.
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g>, Nate Finch <na...@speakeasy.org> writes
>Wow, thanks for the tips, I'll try it out one of these weekends.
>
>-Nate
>
until you're happy with the level of detail you've incorporated (and you
may want to go back to a unit more than once, after the army is finished
to a basic standard), stick to matt or semi-matt (satin/eggshell)
colours. This is especially important for your base colour to be as matt
as possible, this it will give something for subsequent colours to stick
onto. Note that many matt paints are somewhat chalky or coarse in their
pigment, and with Plan B the wash will darken raised areas as well (but
not as much as the incised detail into which it sinks), this tends to be
more pronounced the more matt the base coat is.
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I agree. And just as a side note, "Investment" can not only apply to
painting your minis but also to how you put them together. Chances are you
will care more about squad A who's figures were carefully built and who's
sergeant you spent hours painstakingly converting than squad B who's minis
were just pulled off the sprues and slapped together. Basically any mini
you spend a lot of time on will give you a sense of "Investment".
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Viper12873
if it's only a undercoat and some detail, it's still better than nothing.
Also, one of the things that really brings my self confidence up is that, if i
paint a model really well, the employees at my local gaming shop will put it in
their display case. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that, if you're not
painting your models, you're missing out on more than half of the warhammer
experience.
>I agree. And just as a side note, "Investment" can not only apply to
>painting your minis but also to how you put them together. Chances are you
>will care more about squad A who's figures were carefully built and who's
>sergeant you spent hours painstakingly converting than squad B who's minis
>were just pulled off the sprues and slapped together. Basically any mini
>you spend a lot of time on will give you a sense of "Investment".
>
>--
>
>- smithdoerr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Well i spend 90% of my time with this hobby actually painting them and
> I find a greater pleasure with a good paint job than possibly winning a
> game (as it lasts imeasurably longer!). But then I can spend days on a
> single minature, and only use it every now and then.
without the minis, warhammer would just turn into a combat version of ad&d
(with much quicker rules)
GB Bowes
>
> Well i spend 90% of my time with this hobby actually painting them and
> I find a greater pleasure with a good paint job than possibly winning a
> game (as it lasts imeasurably longer!). But then I can spend days on a
> single minature, and only use it every now and then.
>
Same here... I play maybe once a month if I'm lucky, but I paint nearly
every night. I paint slowly and carefully; there is no reason to rush
through figures that I won't use for a few weeks.
Its taken me almost 4 years to get my space marine army up to almost
4000 points, but now I have a great looking army to show for it.
And, just like you, I'd rather have the better painted army than win the
game (altho I like winning too!).
- GB
Amin_Ibrahim
rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses only
marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
Amin
GB Bowes <gbb...@home.com> wrote in message news:38EF8C...@home.com...
Amin_Ibrahim
good the paint jobs are, if you play with shit scenery, it'll still look
bad.
Amin
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John Secker
<Amin_I...@baylor.edu> writes
>My problem is that I go to town on each individual miniature. I'm getting
>rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses only
>marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
>
bit of raspberry sauce on them?)
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GB Bowes
>
> My problem is that I go to town on each individual miniature. I'm getting
> rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses only
> marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
>
I know just how you feel, my assault squad took weeks to paint. It took
2-3 nights of painting for each figure. Don't even ask how long it took
me to paint my dread.
Just started my LotD, and even after spraying them black, it takes two
nights of work to paint one. (I always paint after coming home from
work at 11pm).
I feel your pain...
- GB
Rob Fungsang
GB Bowes <gbb...@home.com> wrote in message news:38F0ED...@home.com...
> Amin_Ibrahim wrote:
> >
> > My problem is that I go to town on each individual miniature. I'm
getting
> > rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses
only
> > marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
> >
> > Amin
>
> I know just how you feel, my assault squad took weeks to paint. It took
> 2-3 nights of painting for each figure. Don't even ask how long it took
> me to paint my dread.
>
> Just started my LotD, and even after spraying them black, it takes two
> nights of work to paint one. (I always paint after coming home from
> work at 11pm).
>
How in the world can you possibly stretch the LotD into that much work?
Especially since I know you rarely mix your own colors.
Rob Fungsang
Amin_Ibrahim
Amin
GB Bowes <gbb...@home.com> wrote in message news:38F0ED...@home.com...
> Amin_Ibrahim wrote:
> >
> > My problem is that I go to town on each individual miniature. I'm
getting
> > rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses
only
> > marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
> >
> > Amin
>
> I know just how you feel, my assault squad took weeks to paint. It took
> 2-3 nights of painting for each figure. Don't even ask how long it took
> me to paint my dread.
>
> Just started my LotD, and even after spraying them black, it takes two
> nights of work to paint one. (I always paint after coming home from
> work at 11pm).
>
Devin T Peterson
> Amin_Ibrahim wrote:
> >
> > My problem is that I go to town on each individual miniature. I'm getting
> > rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses only
> > marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
> >
> > Amin
>
> I know just how you feel, my assault squad took weeks to paint. It took
> 2-3 nights of painting for each figure. Don't even ask how long it took
> me to paint my dread.
>
> Just started my LotD, and even after spraying them black, it takes two
> nights of work to paint one. (I always paint after coming home from
> work at 11pm).
>
> I feel your pain...
I feel pain already. My army is entirely LotD with some non-LotD stuff thrown in
to make it usable as a normal SM unit. And I have 80+ figs to complete (most are
primed black, just waiting for another warm day to finish). Getting the bones and
flames just right is a real pain. And I don't look forward to my Rhinos,
Landspeeders and Dreadnoughts (yes, plural - got 2 of 'em). *sigh*
And I never seem to have the energy or ambition to work on them. Just keep
working on the various conversions I want (my standard bearer has pieces from 8
completely different models and 3 different GW games). My dremel is just too much
fun to play with. *sigh* Must stop converting and start painting.
Anyone else have this problem??
Devin
>
>
> - GB
Devin T Peterson
> I'm a relatively new WH40K player, although I ran a brigade in BattleTech
> for @2 years (well, a short brigade - 2 regiments. So shoot me!)
*bang*
So what drew you to 40K from BT??
Devin
Cmdr, LotD, Prairies
Major, Intelligence and Operations, 3rd Light Brigade, SLDF
GB Bowes
> > >
> > > My problem is that I go to town on each individual miniature. I'm
> getting
> > > rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses
> only
> > > marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
> > >
> > > Amin
> >
> > I know just how you feel, my assault squad took weeks to paint. It took
> > 2-3 nights of painting for each figure. Don't even ask how long it took
> > me to paint my dread.
> >
>
> > nights of work to paint one. (I always paint after coming home from
> > work at 11pm).
> >
> Especially since I know you rarely mix your own colors.
>
> Rob Fungsang
First night (I paint about 1-2 hours a night) I paint the flames and
bones on the main body which can be quite difficult to get the right
effect. If there is a lot of detail it can take awhile, if there isn't
I can do the whole figure (arms, weapons, bakcpack) in one night.
Otherwise, the next night I paint the bolt pistol and CCW as well as cut
and greenstuff the arms for different poses, and then paint the
backpacks which all have two large skulls on them that look horrible if
rushed thru. I suppose I could paint faster, but I hate correcting
mistakes, so I just try to avoid making *any* in the first place.
Example: To paint bones and skulls, they must be painted bestial brown,
then bleached bone, then skull white in progressively smaller amounts.
the flames are easier; paint them bad moon yellow, then fiery orange at
the bottom, then a watery layer of bad moon yellow to blend the two
colors together, then white at the tips of the flames.
Yes, I've tried the "assembly line" style of painting and it is faster,
but boring as hell to do the same thing over and over and over. This
way I get a little painting variety in one session.
When it comes to vehicles, I can crank those out with a big brush... I
can paint an entire rhino or rhino variant in 1-2 days of painting. I
love painting vehicles.
Oh, and I do mix my own colors for highlighting now.
- GB
Alan and Carmel Brain
"Amin_Ibrahim" <Amin_I...@baylor.edu> wrote
> I love it when people gape in awe at my minis.
As good a reason to do a great paint job as I've ever heard.
Try doing some stuff in Epic though - especially conversions.
You get the same effect with less work.
e.g.
http://www.egroups.com/files/epic/Images/GOFFIK2.JPG
(Epic scale Goffik Rok Band Conversion - lead singer)
http://www.egroups.com/files/epic/Images/GOFFIK3.JPG
(Drum Kit for same)
http://www.egroups.com/files/epic/Images/SANDWM2.JPG
How big is a Sandworm compared to:
A Space Marine Squad?
A Land Raider?
An Imperator Titan?
Richard B
>> rid of my Dark Angels, and starting up my own vanilla chapter that uses
>only
>> marines. I have so far painted 3 minis. Only 113 to go. Arghghghghg
>>
>> Amin
>
>I know just how you feel, my assault squad took weeks to paint. It took
>2-3 nights of painting for each figure. Don't even ask how long it took
<<snip>>
Would it bad form for me to mention that I've painted roughly 1000 points of
Warmaster Undead in roughly 3 days? :)
Richard the Other, Critic of all things Elf, Fan of all things red, Defender of
Fun
Amin_Ibrahim
When my Empire arrive, I'm going to town on them. Each one will look
amazing. I can't wait.
Amin
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