IRS BLUES
mother
The IRS is sticking me big time I need lots of cash so I am thinking of
selling my undead army, but because it is so big and I don't have the heart
to see it chopped up into a million pieces. I thought I would try something
different, what do you think about a raffle for $20 you get a chance to own
the biggest and Greatest undead army that has walked the warhammer. There is
over 19,000 points of model of the highest quality painting and conversions,
there are four separate armies each with awesome terrain and buildings to go
with it .
1. Early days of undead Egyptian looking army, with more mummies than you
can thought were possible with a large model of the tomb of kings and
dessert terran, and the plain of bones ,
2. Nagashhizzar (a 4' high mountain of doom) this massive army is lead by
Nagash on a enormous dragon chariot, pulled by 5 skeleton centaurs,
3. Castle Drakenhof setting high on a dark rock outcrop, all the Sylvania
vampires, the Knights of the Dracula, Sylvia peasant army, giant bats , 4
bat large bat hordes mounted on a clear acrylic so that they look like they
are flying,
4. NERCO armies ,every special character model and some that I have made up,
Grave yard with skelly pooping out a hill with that tomb thing you always
see in WD
every model is mounted with a magnet and has a flocked metal movement plate
with the profiles mounted on the rear of the plate(also a removable magnet),
every point combination for each unit already printed (color with pic)on
trading cards size cards, with there profiles and magic combos, a book of
tactic for fighting each different enemy, My own army book with each unit
pictured and background on them, there is lots and lots more, You have to
see this army to believe it I am trying to get it filmed so I can let you
walk through it on some web site.
Pleas email me to say you would be interested in a raffle of this sort. DO
NOT SENT ANY MONEY AT THIS POINT PLEASE> just say you would be interested in
buying a ticket if you liked the army (which you will)
I would email all losers my files and army book and maybe a few of unpainted
mins so everybody would win,
IF you can help me get out of this IRS fix I would be thankful, and like
Nagash they may kill me now but I will return.
mother
MY EMAIL h...@cyberramp.net
mother wrote in message ...
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Michael E. Friedman
Michael E. Friedman
Well don't just stand there mail at h...@cyberramp.net
You could be the winner.
Sincerely,
Paul Friedman
D
Del Webb wrote:
> Michael E. Friedman <Mich...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > Well don't just stand there mail at h...@cyberramp.net
> > You could be the winner.
> Not to put a damper on your enthusiasm, and not to imply anything about the
> honesty of the raffle, but if you remember the last person to hold a raffle
> ended up scamming the participants. It was CHeadburg, I believe, who
> offered a raffle for a Land Raider, at $1 a ticket. Well, the date of
> announcement came and went, and nobody heard anything. CHeadberg
> disappeared. So, you might have a little trouble working up support for
> this raffle, especially at $20 a pop. Again, I'm not implying the guy
> offering the undead army is dishonest, he's just trying to come up with a
> creative way to raise some cash. But considering the history here, I'd
> suggest maybe rethinking that strategy.
Hang on Del - CHeadberg DID mention who won his raffle - took some
mighty big cojones to come back onto the NG after numerous folks
expressed their 'dislike.' From what I recall, there were several
problems that popped up - computer theft, family, and such, that
prevented him from replying sooner. Check Dejanews and type in 'LAND
RAIDER RAFFLE UPDATE!!! SORRY' - you should find it then. The two
winning numbers were 2421929 and 2421556 - so it WAS legit.
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>> There is
over 19,000 points of model of the highest quality painting and
Not to tear apart the purpose here with an insult, but come on. "Highest
quality painting and conversions"? By that, you mean to say that Mike McVey
converted and painted all 19000 points of your collection.
Something that's growing rather bothersome, to me, is seeing an army for sale,
which the owner describes as being graced with a painting scale of "8 out of
10" or something equally lofty. Frankly, I consider someone like McVey (within
the GW realm of miniature painting, mind you) to be a 10. Estimating that I
possess perhaps 40% of his ability (and I'm quite the damn good conversionist
and an above average painter), that would basically equate to my miniatures
being painted at a scale of 4, which really doesn't sound very impressive at
all. Of course, that's the problems with descriptions: they're usually not
very accurate.
Now, I don't mean to come off with a presumptuous tone, because I'm sure there
are quite a few people on this newsgroup that have such immaculate painting
skills, but one is forced to wonder just how often an army of such a remarkable
degree would actually be sold.
~Minion
President, Minion Inc.
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Del Webb
Michael E. Friedman <Mich...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Well don't just stand there mail at h...@cyberramp.net
>
> You could be the winner.
Not to put a damper on your enthusiasm, and not to imply anything about the
honesty of the raffle, but if you remember the last person to hold a raffle
ended up scamming the participants. It was CHeadburg, I believe, who
offered a raffle for a Land Raider, at $1 a ticket. Well, the date of
announcement came and went, and nobody heard anything. CHeadberg
disappeared. So, you might have a little trouble working up support for
this raffle, especially at $20 a pop. Again, I'm not implying the guy
offering the undead army is dishonest, he's just trying to come up with a
creative way to raise some cash. But considering the history here, I'd
suggest maybe rethinking that strategy.
--
Del Webb
dw...@transport.com
"In the grim darkness of the far future there is only Cheesy Poofs."
Del Webb
D <haki...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> Hang on Del - CHeadberg DID mention who won his raffle - took some
> mighty big cojones to come back onto the NG after numerous folks
> expressed their 'dislike.' From what I recall, there were several
> problems that popped up - computer theft, family, and such, that
> prevented him from replying sooner. Check Dejanews and type in 'LAND
> RAIDER RAFFLE UPDATE!!! SORRY' - you should find it then. The two
> winning numbers were 2421929 and 2421556 - so it WAS legit.
Ah, my mistake then. I thought I would have seen that message, since it
was such a big deal at the time (although I didn't send in a bid myself).
It's entirely possible that I missed it.
BubbaP0956
>Frankly, I consider someone like McVey (within
>the GW realm of miniature painting, mind you) to be a 10. Estimating that I
>possess perhaps 40% of his ability (and I'm quite the damn good conversionist
>and an above average painter), that would basically equate to my miniatures
>being painted at a scale of 4, which really doesn't sound very impressive at
>all. Of course, that's the problems with descriptions: they're usually not
>very accurate.
I think your summation is quite good -- and quite
accurate (unfortunately). Maybe the best any of we
amatuer painters can achieve is a 5 or 6 (MAYBE
a 7, for someone who *could* do professional level
work but doesn't)....
I constanly am amazed at the quality of minis I
buy used. Now, I realize the minis are being sold;
maybe they're being sold because of experiment-
al paint jobs gone bad, or the owner didn't want to
really invest the time into that particular group of
miniatures after all, or any number of other reas-
ons, but more and more often, I am amazed at
the *basic* problems I notice. Often, the minis
do not have flash or mold lines cut off or filed/
sanded down, sink holes are not filled, weapons
and other small pieces have been pulled off the
plastic trees, instead of cleanly cut, without any
sort of cleanup before painting... the list goes on
and on!
Quite frankly, I am amazed at the *assembl-
ed and painted* minis I buy on occasion where
even the basic steps of preparation have not
been done -- as I said, no figure cleanup of
extraneous metal/plastic, no cleanup of the ex-
tras added to the mini, primer so thick most
facial and other fine detail has been lost, big
globs of plastic, super, or bizarre improper
glues altogether sticking out of the areas of
joined pieces, all sorts of things which show
many of these *pretty good* paint jobs are
hardly beyond beginner quality.*
I think your admonition to remember we
could use the 'Eavy Metal team as -THE-
standard for a paint job approaching 10
is a good one, and would go a long way
towards indicating the actual quality of al-
ready-painted minis. I mean, miniatures
done to a standard even of a 5, compared
to a 'Eavy Metal 10, probably should be con-
sidered quite good indeed in *real life*!
All of us would do well to remember the
work that goes into an actual *10* paint
job, as opposed to that which most of us
probably do* -- especially for *rank and file*
troopers. In actuality, our *10* paint jobs
(or what many might consider a *10*) prob-
ably more closely approach the quality of
the quick'n'dirty rank-and-file troops done
by the 'Eavy Metal team, if even that well
done! :-)
I'm not in any way deprecating the
paint jobs most of us do -- I'm agreeing
with the basic premise of the original
poster, and think the idea of keeping the
idea of a 'Eavy Metal mini as a 10 in the
back of our minds when rating our own
work is one we all could use. In general,
in most artistic pursuits, it has been my
experience that the *braggarts* rarely
live up to the standards one expects,
based on the braggarts' descriptions of
their abilities, while the quiet, self-depre-
cating artists often are the ones that turn
out to be the ones of awesome ability.
Just another 2c worth....
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* I want to make clear I am not trying to insult
anyone w/whom I ever have done business -- the
vast majority of minis I buy from other players are
in fine shape and no pretense has been made
that the minis are in any other shape than *as is*
(although still I am surprised to see minis touted
as assembled where pieces obviously were
torn from the sprues, rather than neatly cut and
trimmed, I must admit <G>). It has been rare
indeed to encounter the extreme situation I de-
scribe, but it DOES happen more often than
one might ex pect.