[Ebay][WFB] Orc Warboss on Wyvern - unique color scheme
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> High quality painted Warhammer miniatures from award winning painter
> John LaTemple for display or wargaming.
'Award winning painter' doesn't say much. I'm an award winning painter. So's
the 13-year-old who won the local 'single miniature' category for kids under
13. You don't see either of us trying to fetch Tim Kohlmetz amounts on Ebay,
do you?
I'm sorry to say so, but that Wyvern isn't worth $200. It takes time and
effort to paint a model of that size to that quality, and you haven't taken
that time. It looks more like you've used ink washes than the careful
highlighting you claim. I'm not saying you're a bad painter, but you're not
THAT good either.
Good luck with your auction, if there is one place where you could get that
much for such a paint job, it's on Ebay.
/Anton
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Steve Frost
> "Foehammer's Anvil" <foehamme...@foehammer.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:8ggl9votc80fgopsb...@4ax.com...
>
>
>>High quality painted Warhammer miniatures from award winning painter
>>John LaTemple for display or wargaming.
>
>
> 'Award winning painter' doesn't say much. I'm an award winning painter. So's
> the 13-year-old who won the local 'single miniature' category for kids under
> 13. You don't see either of us trying to fetch Tim Kohlmetz amounts on Ebay,
> do you?
>
> I'm sorry to say so, but that Wyvern isn't worth $200. It takes time and
> effort to paint a model of that size to that quality, and you haven't taken
> that time. It looks more like you've used ink washes than the careful
> highlighting you claim. I'm not saying you're a bad painter, but you're not
> THAT good either.
>
To be fair the auction description does mention the use of inks. Read
the second sentence:
"Metal 28mm figure is carefully shaded, highlighted and detailed in
acrylic paints and inks and protected by no less than 3 coats of matte
varnish, making it suitable for both display and tabletop wargaming."
> Good luck with your auction, if there is one place where you could get that
> much for such a paint job, it's on Ebay.
>
That's a given for any auction of this nature on eBay. Take a gander
over at the armor or airplane models auctions, and you'll see some truly
ugly, ugly "pro-built" models going for unheard of prices. Welcome to
the free market I guess..
Steve
Anton Svärd
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> To be fair the auction description does mention the use of inks. Read
> the second sentence:
It does, but it's 'careful highlighting' that makes me expect a little more
than that.
Qrab
foehamme...@foehammer.net wrote:
> **NOTE: I have read the RGMW FAQ and post to the appropriate
> sub-groups. If I get another complaint to my ISP, I will be forced to
> unleash a variety of Chaos Minions upon your grandmother. **
>
> From Foehammer's Anvil:
>
> High quality painted Warhammer miniatures from award winning painter
> John LaTemple for display or wargaming.
> See more of my work and check for my latest auctions at
> http://www.foehammer.net
>
> or
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?W3EC232C3
How often do you sell something like this?
--
Be seeing you-
Qrab
T. Kohlmetz
>
> 'Award winning painter' doesn't say much. I'm an award winning painter. So's
> the 13-year-old who won the local 'single miniature' category for kids under
> 13. You don't see either of us trying to fetch Tim Kohlmetz amounts on Ebay,
> do you?
Not sure what to think about that comment - think I'm overpricing or
fetching what I deserve?
if it's a compliment, thanks, if not.. oh well...
later!
Tim
T. Kohlmetz
<anton...@telia.com> wrote:
After reviewing this piece, I find it extreemly difficult to believe
that 30+ hours went into that piece. With that amount of time, there
should be NO drybrushing whatsoever...
The piece that I won a Gold with at the Canadian Demons last year took
about 60-65 hours total including 25 hours of conversion work and a
custom sculpted base (lots of eyeballs, twisted up faces etc). I ended
up selling it to a regular customer of mine for $450 US.
hell, if someone wants to pay me $200, I'd paint a Wyvern and rider for
them to a superior standard than that one...
Later,
Tim.
Anton Svärd
"T. Kohlmetz" <xsla...@alias.golden.net> skrev i meddelandet
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Can't say I know what you get for your work, but it's certainly no more than
you deserve. Your work is outstanding, simple as that. I suppose you could
call it a compliment.
Anton Svärd
> The piece that I won a Gold with at the Canadian Demons last year took
> about 60-65 hours total including 25 hours of conversion work and a
> custom sculpted base (lots of eyeballs, twisted up faces etc). I ended
> up selling it to a regular customer of mine for $450 US.
As I said -- there are awards, and then there are AWARDS.
Still, even for one of the very best, it must be hard to make a good living
painting miniatures professionally. $450 for a week and a half of work isn't
exactly a fortune even with American tax levels.
Maybe it's better to paint fast to a lower standard, but it on Ebay with a
ridiculously high minimum bid and hope for a complete nutcase to buy it :)
T. Kohlmetz
<anton...@telia.com> wrote:
Ah.. well then, thank you very much!
Hopefully my new Golden Demon projects will fetch me a little something
as well - a bit of hardware would be wonderful...
Just in case you're interested they will be:
Tzeentch Sorceror Lord conversion (FB)
Emperor's Champ converted up (40k)
Khornate Demon Prince conversion (40K - oooh boy, he's a doozy)
We'll see about some more stuff if I have the time... have some other
commissions to get out of the way first..
Later!
Tim
T. Kohlmetz
<anton...@telia.com> wrote:
Sometimes it is better to paint fast than slow - units painted to a
half decent standard tend to get a half decent amount of cash...
You have to kind of follow the "fanboy" trends though (makes me retch
at the thought) and paint what is currently in demand... otherwise, you
get stuck with excellently painted minis going for very low amounts...
And, you're right.. the $450 isn't exactly alot of cash, especially
when you consider the bitz and pieces cost about $70 as well...
Later!
Tim
Samuel Campbell
Foehammer's Anvil <foehamme...@foehammer.net> wrote in message
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Does your mother know you paint so badly?
Seriously, there is no contrast in the figure at all, which leads me to
doubt the level of shading and highlighting you have done. Grey is also not
the choicest of colours for a wyvern in that it is drab, dull and
Hwangesque.
Good luck on trying to get someone to bid on it. There maybe even bigger
fools than you.
Maka
Planning on quiting your day job? Your stuff is at least twice as
good. If he's making a living, he either has a secret source of
desperate buyers, or he lives with his mom.
-Maka
incrdbil
<mani...@Im.an.Atheiest.Cunt.optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
>Good luck on trying to get someone to bid on it. There maybe even bigger
>fools than you.
It may be so bad, GW doesn't think it threatens their IP.
Right now, Timo's dick threatens GW IP. Comparison to squats I guess.
Robert Singers
> After reviewing this piece, I find it extreemly difficult to believe
> that 30+ hours went into that piece. With that amount of time, there
> should be NO drybrushing whatsoever...
So in other words it's your considered opinion that it's PANTS?
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>
> Right now, Timo's dick threatens GW IP. Comparison to squats I guess.
>
That's a wrap! Print it.
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Anton Svärd
> Ah.. well then, thank you very much!
> Hopefully my new Golden Demon projects will fetch me a little something
> as well - a bit of hardware would be wonderful...
> Just in case you're interested they will be:
Me, I prefer to model and paint my own, it's an important part of the hobby
for me. If I ever want do have something painted for me, I'll certainly be
talking to you but don't hold your breath waiting.
Anton Svärd
> And, you're right.. the $450 isn't exactly alot of cash, especially
> when you consider the bitz and pieces cost about $70 as well...
Just out of curiosity, if you run a business in the US, how much does the
above actually put in your pocket?
pat
> T. Kohlmetz simpered meekly
>
> > After reviewing this piece, I find it extreemly difficult to believe
> > that 30+ hours went into that piece. With that amount of time, there
> > should be NO drybrushing whatsoever...
>
> So in other words it's your considered opinion that it's PANTS?
If that's Kiwi for over-rated and boring (what'd he do, dip the damn
thing in grey?) than that would prolly be a YES.
Pat
PS Rob, how's the nipper doing? You haven't mentioned any new baby
adventures for a while...
Rob Singers
> PS Rob, how's the nipper doing? You haven't mentioned any new baby
> adventures for a while...
He's fine. At seven weeks he nearly weighs more than our friend's six
month old. He appears to like rugby (union) which is good, or maybe he's
just fascinated when dad gives him a commentry on how bad Granddad's team
is doing.
A baby's ability to puke is something incredible. Contrary to fog's and
Sam's belief the only time I've really been lacking sleep was after his six
week jab.
Ummm babies are better fun than playing with GW minis especially when they
smile for the first time, but not when they won't sleep. They're more
draining on your wallet too. Perhaps GW should change to selling
[unpainted] babies.
T. Kohlmetz
<rsin...@finger.hotmail.com> wrote:
> T. Kohlmetz simpered meekly
>
> > After reviewing this piece, I find it extreemly difficult to believe
> > that 30+ hours went into that piece. With that amount of time, there
> > should be NO drybrushing whatsoever...
>
> So in other words it's your considered opinion that it's PANTS?
Yeah.. that's about it...
T. Kohlmetz
<anton...@telia.com> wrote:
> > And, you're right.. the $450 isn't exactly alot of cash, especially
> > when you consider the bitz and pieces cost about $70 as well...
>
> Just out of curiosity, if you run a business in the US, how much does the
> above actually put in your pocket?
Well, I don't run a business.. it's a hobby...
Out of that $450 I'd put about $360 in my pocket after model and
shipping expenses...
Later,
Tim
Anton Svärd
Is that legal?
At least around here, incomes from a hobby are taxable over a certain amount
($360 would definitely qualify). You'd at least have to pay income tax I
think (about 30% if you're in Sweden; if it were a business you'd have to
add a number of additional fees, for a net of a little over 50%, not
counting VAT).
T. Kohlmetz
<anton...@telia.com> wrote:
> > Well, I don't run a business.. it's a hobby...
> > Out of that $450 I'd put about $360 in my pocket after model and
> > shipping expenses...
>
> Is that legal?
>
> At least around here, incomes from a hobby are taxable over a certain amount
> ($360 would definitely qualify). You'd at least have to pay income tax I
> think (about 30% if you're in Sweden; if it were a business you'd have to
> add a number of additional fees, for a net of a little over 50%, not
> counting VAT).
Yeah.. as far as I know it's legal... I don't sell too much stuff on
Ebay anyways - I sell most of my stuff to pre-established clients.
I could basically get away with selling stuff like at a garage sale --
those are all not taxable as far as I know... don't need a vendor's
permit or anything like that...
And, if taxation was a worry, you'd think that the IRS or local
government tax authority would crack down on Ebay in a big way.
Besides, who has to let the taxman know anyways?
Later!
Tim.
Anton Svärd
> Yeah.. as far as I know it's legal... I don't sell too much stuff on
> Ebay anyways - I sell most of my stuff to pre-established clients.
Supposing you sell for some $2000 anually to pre-established clients, I'd
say the IRS would be interested.
> I could basically get away with selling stuff like at a garage sale --
> those are all not taxable as far as I know... don't need a vendor's
> permit or anything like that...
While I'm roughly familiar with the concept of a garage sale (I watch the
Simpsons) I don't think there are any laws covering something like that
here.
> And, if taxation was a worry, you'd think that the IRS or local
> government tax authority would crack down on Ebay in a big way.
I think if they took the time to track all the auctions, some sellers could
very well be subject to taxation.
> Besides, who has to let the taxman know anyways?
The Taxman always gets you in the end... or was that the Reaper?
T. Kohlmetz
<anton...@telia.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah.. as far as I know it's legal... I don't sell too much stuff on
> > Ebay anyways - I sell most of my stuff to pre-established clients.
>
> Supposing you sell for some $2000 anually to pre-established clients, I'd
> say the IRS would be interested.
I suppose so.. they'd probably try an take around 35-40% considering
the tax bracket I'm in..
> > I could basically get away with selling stuff like at a garage sale --
> > those are all not taxable as far as I know... don't need a vendor's
> > permit or anything like that...
>
> While I'm roughly familiar with the concept of a garage sale (I watch the
> Simpsons) I don't think there are any laws covering something like that
> here.
Garage sale = take all your junk, throw a price tag on it, put it all
on your front lawn and hope some passerby decides that they can't live
life without it. Typically take place on Saturday mornings, the biggest
usually in spring (spring cleaning sale) and fall (get rid of all the
stuff you thought you'd use in the summer and never did).
A few people I know go around to these sales, pick up what seems to be
worthless to most people, clean it up, and sell it for *ALOT* of money
(i.e. antique silver candlesticks, a violin that was worth $25,000 when
it was cleaned up and restored).. You'd think the IRS would be much
more interested in them than me...
> > And, if taxation was a worry, you'd think that the IRS or local
> > government tax authority would crack down on Ebay in a big way.
>
> I think if they took the time to track all the auctions, some sellers could
> very well be subject to taxation.
Oh well.. when they do, I quit using Ebay..
> > Besides, who has to let the taxman know anyways?
>
> The Taxman always gets you in the end... or was that the Reaper?
In some strange way, it's both...
Later!
Steve Frost
>>>Well, I don't run a business.. it's a hobby...
>>>Out of that $450 I'd put about $360 in my pocket after model and
>>>shipping expenses...
>>
>>Is that legal?
>>
>>At least around here, incomes from a hobby are taxable over a certain amount
>>($360 would definitely qualify). You'd at least have to pay income tax I
>>think (about 30% if you're in Sweden; if it were a business you'd have to
>>add a number of additional fees, for a net of a little over 50%, not
>>counting VAT).
>
>
> Yeah.. as far as I know it's legal... I don't sell too much stuff on
> Ebay anyways - I sell most of my stuff to pre-established clients.
>
> I could basically get away with selling stuff like at a garage sale --
> those are all not taxable as far as I know... don't need a vendor's
> permit or anything like that...
>
> And, if taxation was a worry, you'd think that the IRS or local
> government tax authority would crack down on Ebay in a big way.
>
If you're in the U.S. and pay U.S. taxes, you can get an "out" of sorts.
If you are in an "endeavor" and make money three out of five years, the
IRS assume you're using it as a money making business opportunity. Fail
that test, and it's a "hobby". Still, you can claim a portion of the
expenses incurred in the hobby as a tax write-off. Nope, not kidding.
As with any thing tax, or even government, related there are some pretty
strict rules, such as not claiming a loss. The amount of income from
"the hobby" will equal the amount of deductions claimed for "the hobby".
Oh, and record keeping is paramount because the burden of proof lies on
the claimant, not the government. Talk to an accountant as well before
leaping into this venture blindfolded.
HTH,
Steve
Myrmidon
rsin...@finger.hotmail.com, Rob Singers shouted out the following words
of wit...
> pat startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words of wisdom
>
> > PS Rob, how's the nipper doing? You haven't mentioned any new baby
> > adventures for a while...
>
> He's fine. At seven weeks he nearly weighs more than our friend's six
> month old. He appears to like rugby (union) which is good, or maybe he's
> just fascinated when dad gives him a commentry on how bad Granddad's team
> is doing.
>
> A baby's ability to puke is something incredible. Contrary to fog's and
> Sam's belief the only time I've really been lacking sleep was after his six
> week jab.
>
> Ummm babies are better fun than playing with GW minis especially when they
> smile for the first time, but not when they won't sleep. They're more
> draining on your wallet too. Perhaps GW should change to selling
> [unpainted] babies.
>
to killing minis! You bastard!
Anton Svärd
> In article <k5Vma.20$mU6...@newsb.telia.net>, Anton Svärd
> <anton...@telia.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Yeah.. as far as I know it's legal... I don't sell too much stuff on
> > > Ebay anyways - I sell most of my stuff to pre-established clients.
> >
> > Supposing you sell for some $2000 anually to pre-established clients,
I'd
> > say the IRS would be interested.
>
> I suppose so.. they'd probably try an take around 35-40% considering
> the tax bracket I'm in..
I don't know your tax system, but doesn't that mean that you have a pretty
good income? If you do, why the **** do you sell your miniatures at all? I
would never sell my favourite conversions.
> > While I'm roughly familiar with the concept of a garage sale (I watch
the
> > Simpsons) I don't think there are any laws covering something like that
> > here.
>
> Garage sale = take all your junk, throw a price tag on it, put it all
> on your front lawn and hope some passerby decides that they can't live
> life without it. Typically take place on Saturday mornings, the biggest
> usually in spring (spring cleaning sale) and fall (get rid of all the
> stuff you thought you'd use in the summer and never did).
As I said, I watch the Simpsons so I'm familiar with the concept :)
Obviously Americans buy way too much stuff they don't really need.
Myrmidon
Anton Svärd shouted out the following words of wit...
>
> "T. Kohlmetz" <xsla...@alias.golden.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:150420031258067438%xsla...@alias.golden.net...
> > I suppose so.. they'd probably try an take around 35-40% considering
> > the tax bracket I'm in..
>
> I don't know your tax system, but doesn't that mean that you have a pretty
> good income? If you do, why the **** do you sell your miniatures at all? I
> would never sell my favourite conversions.
I can answer this one - he ISN'T selling his Favorite conversions -
not counting conversions he's simply selling the ones that came out well
but aren't his favorites. As a long time artist I can tell you that often
the beauty of a good water color painting or pencil sketch for the artist
is NOT the finished product, but rather the process. Process determines
product. The challange and interest for the artist is in the process -
the strategy and planning involved and the level of skill and ability to
express or convey a particular feeling/idea/mood what have you is what in
fact drives the artist to create a particular work in the first place.
When it's finished, a piece stands on it's own merits and either
successfully achieves it's intended visual goal or it does not. The
artist is no longer directly involved. The finished piece has become a
seperate entity from the artist. Sure, as an artist one desires feedback
about the piece, but the piece is still it's own entity - the artist and
the piece aren't connected like they were during the process of creation.
People with a high level of talent are satisfied with a 'one time'
achievement. They strive to repeat that high level of performance, and to
improve upon it. A skillful artisan of any sort knows that if they do a
nice piece once - they can do it again. Keeping the piece isn't so
important as keeping the skills that MADE the piece sharp and clearly in
mind so that they can be grown and bettered. If skilled artisans kept
every piece they liked - they'd sell very little, and have no room for
more. Besides, as a buyer - would you only want to buy the stuff the
artist didn't like, or thought was 2nd best? I always think it's funny
how people look at paintings by 'masters' in art meuseums and fail to
realize that those 'masters' made a LOT of CRAP paintings too (they all
started out as beginners at some point - and not every painting is a
success.) The smart 'masters' simply recognized their 2nd rate and
inferior works and simply painted over them or destroyed them. It wasn't
that they didn't make mistakes - they simply didn't let them get out into
general circulation if they could avoid it.
Myrmidon
Anton Svärd
"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> In article <Fw8na.242$dP1...@newsc.telia.net>, anton...@telia.com,
> Anton Svärd shouted out the following words of wit...
> >
> > "T. Kohlmetz" <xsla...@alias.golden.net> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:150420031258067438%xsla...@alias.golden.net...
>
> > > I suppose so.. they'd probably try an take around 35-40% considering
> > > the tax bracket I'm in..
> >
> > I don't know your tax system, but doesn't that mean that you have a
pretty
> > good income? If you do, why the **** do you sell your miniatures at all?
I
> > would never sell my favourite conversions.
>
> I can answer this one
<cruel snippage>
Ok, maybe I don't count as an artist but I want to OWN all the models I
paint. To be honest I don't want to sell ANY conversions, or indeed anything
at all. I want to keep them, my own, my preciousss.
After all, life is about getting more stuff, not less.
T. Kohlmetz
Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:
Well, sorry there Myrmidon...
I have to disagree with you here - especially since we're discussing me
and why I sell my stuff...
Simply put, I sell my stuff 'cause I'm done with it...
As I stated earlier on in this thread, I paint as hobby... it's a good
stress reliever, and if I'm really bored, I can pick up a brush and
entertain myself for a few hours.
The fact that I can sell something which in it's own way it therapeutic
to me (i.e. aforementioned stress relief or simply relaxing) is great.
Most people have to pay for something which accomplishes the same
thing! (i.e. gym memberships, councillors, expensive equipment for
other hobbies like fishing etc).
The fact that I sold a Golden Demon winner pretty much shoots down your
first arguement that I'm not selling my favourites... the fact that it
won a demon alone makes me very proud of that piece.. and if someone
else can enjoy it more than I can now that it's done it's "thing" for
me, so be it!
Later!
Tim.
p.s. yes, I still produce crap sometimes - and yes it does get thrown
in the brake fluid bath for a new paint job somewhere down the
lines....
Qrab
M_St...@hotmail.com (Maka) wrote:
If I could just madel and paint minis for a living, I'd do it. I just
don't see that it's possible to support oneself.
As for my question, I just wanted to find out how often Mr. Foehammer
was able to fleece some unsuspecting eBayer.
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Qrab