Carnifex -- Acid Blood
Erik Sebellin
Just recently, not 3 hours ago actually, I was playing in a WH40k game. I
was using a Chaos Predator with the Demonic Possession as well as the Khorne
Destroyer Vehicle Wargear card.
I chose to try to run over my opponents Carnifex, that had been in HTH with
it the previous turn. The Carnifex had Toughened Exoskeleton and Acid
Blood. It failed the initiative roll to avoid being hit, and was killed,
suffering 15 Wounds.
Logically, the Acid Blood splashes onto my Predator and deals 10, Strength 9
hits. From what I've found in the rules, I believe that since the hit took
place during the movement phase (a ram) and Acid Blood states "If a model is
wounded or killed in HTH all models in base-to-base with it will suffer an
automatic hit."
So logically the Acid Blood would splash my tank, but the rules indicate
otherwise. Can anyone clarify for me??
Thanks
Mark Schwartz
effects
of the acid splatter.
Mark Schwartz
m...@in.net
PattonUSN
>the
>effects
>of the acid splatter.
Ditto. Running over someone is tantamount to killing it in HtH. Heck, check out
"Aliens", they run over an Alien with their APC and its acid blood ruins the
driveshaft.
-Keith
Brian Schenck
> Alright.
> Just recently, not 3 hours ago actually, I was playing in a WH40k game. I
> was using a Chaos Predator with the Demonic Possession as well as the Khorne
> Destroyer Vehicle Wargear card.
>
> I chose to try to run over my opponents Carnifex, that had been in HTH with
> it the previous turn. The Carnifex had Toughened Exoskeleton and Acid
> Blood. It failed the initiative roll to avoid being hit, and was killed,
> suffering 15 Wounds.
>
> Logically, the Acid Blood splashes onto my Predator and deals 10, Strength 9
> hits. From what I've found in the rules, I believe that since the hit took
> place during the movement phase (a ram) and Acid Blood states "If a model is
> wounded or killed in HTH all models in base-to-base with it will suffer an
> automatic hit."
>
> So logically the Acid Blood would splash my tank, but the rules indicate
> otherwise. Can anyone clarify for me??
>
A really good example of how interrelated the rules are not...
Anyhow, at one point the Carni was in contact with the Predator. In fact,
after being splattered across the windshield, it is still in contact.
However, in a sense this is a drive-by and not HtH, so by the rules, the
Acid Blood would not work. But, since you did actually have to physically
hit the Carni, then the Acid Blood should still splash on the Pred.
A good case for a house rule I think.
Brian D. Schenck
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>wounded or killed in HTH all models in base-to-base with it will suffer an
>automatic hit."
>
>So logically the Acid Blood would splash my tank, but the rules indicate
>otherwise. Can anyone clarify for me??
>
Are you asking if your tank doesn't get splashed since your tank didn't kill it
in the HTH _phase_? If that is the question, the answer is that it _does_ get
splashed. The rules state "in HTH", _NOT_ "in the HTH phase".
What the rules are trying to say (IMHO) is that the model that gets splashed
has to be close enough for the blood splash to reach it. In any case, wereI a
"Nid player, and you had just run over my Carni and then tried to argue that it
doesn't get splashed because it didn't run over it in the HTH _phase_ I would
whip out a gun and shoot you on the spot. :)
We're all here 'cause we ain't all there!
Galin
>Just recently, not 3 hours ago actually, I was playing in a WH40k game. I
>was using a Chaos Predator with the Demonic Possession as well as the
Khorne
>Destroyer Vehicle Wargear card.
>
>I chose to try to run over my opponents Carnifex, that had been in HTH with
>it the previous turn. The Carnifex had Toughened Exoskeleton and Acid
>Blood. It failed the initiative roll to avoid being hit, and was killed,
>suffering 15 Wounds.
>
>Logically, the Acid Blood splashes onto my Predator and deals 10, Strength
9
>hits. From what I've found in the rules, I believe that since the hit took
is
>wounded or killed in HTH all models in base-to-base with it will suffer an
>automatic hit."
>
>So logically the Acid Blood would splash my tank, but the rules indicate
>otherwise. Can anyone clarify for me??
Let logic reign supreme. The rules cannot cover every situation, so when
they don't, let the spirit of the rules prevail and be logical. Splash that
tank!
Galin
Farseer
is gettting cooked. Don't pull a Clinton here and try to twist the "legal"
wording.
Hey, think the phrase will catch on?
Mark Schwartz wrote:
> C'mon dude! Your tank caused the Carnifex to die, therefor the tank suffers the
> effects
> of the acid splatter.
>
Farseer
attacks the target with assault weapons. When you ram something, you are making
contact with it. Head on contact. Like was pointed out, when Ripley squished
the bug in Aliens, it ate throught the transaxle and killed the APC.
MaDBoy
>C'mon dude! Your tank caused the Carnifex to die, therefor the tank suffers
the
>effects
>of the acid splatter.
Do you want to rephrase that. Tanks cause lots of people to die and
it's usually from a kilometer away. (Just joking)
Yeah, you hit the bug now you got to except that it's going to sprayed
across the windshield.
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WireHedd
to point out an ongoing and repeated error by a lot of people in the NG who
are talking about the scene in Aliens where the assault vehicle creams one
of the aliens underwheel.
The acidic blood from the alien did NOT ruin, burn or in any other way
effect the transaxle as so many have said. in the movie screenplay as well
as in the teleoplay (book of the book with staging and such included) the
problem they have with the vehicle's transaxle is caused by a break from an
exceptionally hard impact with the ground after the tank get's all but
airborn during the wild ride they take in it.
Not taking sides in this argument but just pointing out a correction.
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PattonUSN wrote in message
<199808200321...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>>C'mon dude! Your tank caused the Carnifex to die, therefor the tank
suffers
>>the
>>effects
>>of the acid splatter.
>
Richard Orthuber
damage from the acid blood. I know I have cats parts stuck in my radiator still.
If cats were made of acid blood I'd be dead right now.
Odin Thorson
tread, the transaxle prob was a result of ripley's spinning tires and airborne
antics as wirehead stated... sorry
Joe Schulte
: Uhh, while the vehicle prob had some acid holes in it too, not to mention low tire
: tread, the transaxle prob was a result of ripley's spinning tires and airborne
: antics as wirehead stated... sorry
Okay, so the acid blood weakened the transaxle and then, due to its new
weakness, the axle snapped due to Ripley's Airbone Antics.
-Mer "The Great Compromiser" idian
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Jonas Whitespore
<XUmG1.68$K41.1...@newsread.com>, "WireHedd"
<spamsuck...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>While I do not play 'Nids nor have I ever read their Codex I feel obligated
>to point out an ongoing and repeated error by a lot of people in the NG who
>are talking about the scene in Aliens where the assault vehicle creams one
>of the aliens underwheel.
>
>The acidic blood from the alien did NOT ruin, burn or in any other way
>effect the transaxle as so many have said. in the movie screenplay as well
>as in the teleoplay (book of the book with staging and such included) the
>problem they have with the vehicle's transaxle is caused by a break from an
>exceptionally hard impact with the ground after the tank get's all but
>airborn during the wild ride they take in it.
>
>Not taking sides in this argument but just pointing out a correction.
OK, let's see hands.
Who gives a (*)?
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: At precisely Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:26:29 -0400, in
: >While I do not play 'Nids nor have I ever read their Codex I feel obligated
: >to point out an ongoing and repeated error by a lot of people in the NG who
: >are talking about the scene in Aliens where the assault vehicle creams one
: >of the aliens underwheel.
: >
: >The acidic blood from the alien did NOT ruin, burn or in any other way
: >effect the transaxle as so many have said. in the movie screenplay as well
: >as in the teleoplay (book of the book with staging and such included) the
: >problem they have with the vehicle's transaxle is caused by a break from an
: >exceptionally hard impact with the ground after the tank get's all but
: >airborn during the wild ride they take in it.
: >
: >Not taking sides in this argument but just pointing out a correction.
: OK, let's see hands.
: Who gives a (*)?
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> : OK, let's see hands.
>
> : Who gives a (*)?
>
> Wahaahahahaha! My legacy continues!
>
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