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Myrmidon

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Sep 21, 2006, 12:57:37 PM9/21/06
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Hello,

I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...

1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
skillful painter?

2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
etc.)

3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
area and lighting.

4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
level, or spend more time on certain minis?)


Thanks in advance for everyone's time,

Myrmidon


--
[Paint] [Rant] Do NOT lick your paint brush...

I've been licking my paintbrushes for years, and it hasn't
jklse jhlka hnbjktr jskl jnkl;sg.

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Or...

http://www.sheppard.demon.co.uk/rgmw_faq/rgmw_faq.htm

Ryan Elkins

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Sep 21, 2006, 1:29:13 PM9/21/06
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> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?

Solid knowledge of and ability to use the basic techniques, some
understanding of color theory, >patience<, knowing when to stop painting
before frustration takes over.

> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

For batch/troop painting, whatever works (GW/craftstore paints and brushes).
For centerpiece/detailed painting, I use VMC, VGC and GW paints. I use W/N
Series 7 Mini brushes exclusivley for this type of painting.

> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

A table in the garage. Its about 2ft wide and 7ft long. I use two adjustable
full-spectrum desk lamps along with ambient lighting. Nice comfy chair to
sit in.

> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

I mostly use the "Inside out" technique and layering, followed up by
drybrushing and/or washing/inking and then the touching-up.

> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

I paint R&F minis in batches of 5 - 10, painting them to my own tabletop/3
foot standard.
Sergeants and the like get a bit more attention, just to make them stand
out.
And I can easily spend hours on a special mini, such as a SM commander or
special character.

> Thanks in advance for everyone's time,

Most welcome!

drgrbek


Tentacle Pr0n

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Sep 21, 2006, 2:21:46 PM9/21/06
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I have ADD. By the time I set up to paint have to go do something else.


smithdoerr

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Sep 21, 2006, 3:02:23 PM9/21/06
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"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...

I feel hungry.

> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?

On the mechanics side, eye hand coordination. On the knowledge side, a bit
of color theory and some experience with paint, a willingness to try to
learn new methods and improve your techniques, and being observant of the
world around you. All the above can be learned and improved with practice
practice practice.

> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

Long long ago I started by painting ww2 and dinosaur models with Testor's
enamels. Then when I started painting minis I used craft paints and
artist's paints I inherited. Then during the 90s I switched to miniature
paint brands like Ral Partha and then GW. Over the last year, after nursing
some of my GW paints for 6+ years, I've been slowly switching over to
Vallejo Game Color paints. Still have a few craft paints around I use for
drybrushing bases. For brushes, I have a big pile of various quality but
lately I mostly use higher quality Winsor and Newton brushes.

> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

A picture is worth a thousand words:
http://smithdoerr.home.comcast.net/ebaypics/desk001.jpg
This is one of the desks in my office. It's usually not so cluttered but I
haven't done any real work on it recently so the mini painting stuff has
accumulated. Gets plenty of natural light but I do most of my painting at
night. I have a halogen desk lamp and 3 industrial clamp lights (though I
usually only use 1 when painting) with either Sylvania Daylight bulbs or GE
Reveal bulbs. Both brands cost about the same and produce close to natural
light.

> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

For rank and file: Base color. Darker wash for shadows. Paint back up to
base color. Highlight color. Sometimes a second highlight.

For display pieces and special characters: Same sort of thing but with
*lots* more layers. Thin the paints, thin the paints, thin the paints.
Each layer is semi-transparent and I try to feather each into the previous
layer so the transition from shadow to highlight is smoother. I'll also use
glazes and other techniques.

> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

See above. I mostly paint rank and file guys in batches of about 5.


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-smithdoerr


MJB

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Sep 21, 2006, 4:17:26 PM9/21/06
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"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?
>

Don't really know how to approach that question. I can't draw and I can't
paint on canvas - so I am completely lacking in any sort of convential
artistic ability. Yet I paint figures quite adequately, can free-hand a
mean flag on a sheet of paper and can actually sculpt a little. Everything
I know about art theory I learned in gradeschool - red and yellow make
orange, blue and yellow make green, etc. Most of the fancy poofta book
learning I aquired by reading the fine print on my three dollar color wheel.
I guess, if pushed, I'd have to say the most important skill is a
willingness to keep learning and the ability to take satisfaction in the
process of painting, if not the actual results.

>
>
> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

Ceramcoat by Delta and Loew-Cornell series 7 synthetic brushes.


>
>
>
> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

A drafting table and chair. A swing-arm lamp with a 75 watt Incandescent
bulb.


>
>
>
> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

To paraphrase John's description of my technique "I'm almost exclusively a
stain-painter". I go into some detail of my methods on my painting website.

Mr. Tin's Miniature Painting Workshop:
http://web.newsguy.com/Mrtinsworkshop/

>
>
>
> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

The quantity of miniatures I paint makes time per figure irrelevant. A
painting board will contain between ten to fifty miniatures, depending upon
period and scale. And I will typically finish four or five boards per week.
I try to apply the same amount of detail on each miniature, regardless of
rank. But sometimes the amount of dangling-janglies or encrusted do-dads
requires additional time - then I do whatever is necessary.

--
MJB

Mr. Tin's Miniature Painting Workshop:
http://web.newsguy.com/Mrtinsworkshop/

Desert Lurker

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Sep 21, 2006, 6:40:45 PM9/21/06
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Myrmidon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?
>
same as any artist: practice, practice, practice, practice, talent in
that order

>
> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

My current favorite is Vallejo Model Color. I'm pleased with my
kollinsky sable brushes. The tip does not seem to curl as fast as the GW
brushes.

> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.
>

Garage with soplight with daylight tubes for general lighting and a
swing arm lamp with GE Reveal 40watt bulb over a computer desk. MaryKay
styrofaom make-up trays for palltes and a large(18x24") cutting board.


>
> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)
>

Prime, spray basecoat, add seondary colors, Highlight (wash, drybrush,
etc), detail colors. seal.


>
> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

i can only paint to one level. becuase I need more of step one.

Jim M

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Sep 21, 2006, 6:43:43 PM9/21/06
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In article <MPG.1f7c8df06...@news-server.woh.rr.com>,
Im...@home.com says...

> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?
>

Patience

>
>
> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)
>

Haven't I ranted on this enough? I'll go off the wall and mention a few
things people not might include,

Toothpicks, a magnifying lamp, mixing pots, mixing trays, graphite,
chalk, windex (or the equivelent), & brush soap.

>
>
> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.
>

2'x6'7" table on one end is my computer and on the other is my modeling
stuff. For light I have my ceiling light and the above mentioned
magnifying lamp.

>
>
> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)
>

It very's depending on the size of the figures that I am painting. But
pretty much it's base coat, wash, dry bush, pick out highlights and pick
out details.

>
>
> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)
>
>

I spend a little more time on individual figures, because there is
usually only one of them. Though I will often paint them all the same,
and then add a few extra details to the special figures.


>
>

--
Jim M

In the grim darkness of the present, there is only September...

Tait the Converter

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Sep 22, 2006, 11:55:20 AM9/22/06
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"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?

Tough Question straight off. A steady hand, paitence, a good eye for
detail, a love for what your painting, I'm probably just re-iterating
everything everyone else has said. I think the most important skill, is
love though.

> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

I'm a Tamiya man, never tried any others, never had a need to, they seem to
favour the climate of my area, neer seeming to go dry unless I want them
too, and I'f I'm doing extend painting with thaht colour the thinner keeps
the paint fine until the very end. craft brushes, never spent more then ten
dollars on one, and they do me fine for my mid range to awesome paint jobs.
the coolest item I have in my array of tools, its a letheworking tool, it
gives me the oppotunity to get a tiny bit of paint anywhere.


> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

The Sacred grounds are the most important. I have a wing of my house
dedicated to warhammer, for it is my shrine. I have all my paints easily
accessible, as well as my conversion and sculpting tools behind me in a
cupboard. the desk is set up with dual clamps so I can have mini's
positioned in 360 degrees. the magnifying lamp I have is my most loved
gadget, I paid 60 bucks australian for it, and damn is it awesome.


> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

Base of black for all my orcs. white dry brush for the highlighted muscle,
inkwash, inkwash, inkwash, detail, extra detail, base.


> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

Rank and file I do in sevens, it's my optimum number, I can spend a full day
on each and do 7 a week easily, any more and I get depressed by how much
work I have to do. and Tamiya will last seven detailed paints, roughly an
hour.

Special minis, well that's a different matter. I recently acquired a one of
a kind, made in 1991 catapult by a little known australian company, and it
is beautiful. I spent two days alone planning my colours trialing and
changing thoughts, another two days thinking about converting bits and
pieces. so far, I've spent two weeks painting it and it alone at three
hours a day. Letting the maximum ammount of dry time for the paint set. I
see myself spending another week on it easily, so that is fine by me. the
finished product will be my gift to my orc army.

God, I'm an addict.

> Thanks in advance for everyone's time,
>
> Myrmidon
>
>
> --
> [Paint] [Rant] Do NOT lick your paint brush...
>
> I've been licking my paintbrushes for years, and it hasn't
> jklse jhlka hnbjktr jskl jnkl;sg.


So have I, and I've never noticed any differnces in my person, and neither
has Cleavland, the head growing out of my shoulder.

Rob Singers

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Sep 21, 2006, 7:13:42 PM9/21/06
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Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Myrmidon said

> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?

Patience.

> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

For miniatures, old Pal Partha and Vallejo. Apple barrel and other
similiar craft paints for bases and scenery. No matter what some people
want to claim the quality of the paint does matter if you're attempting
fine work.

W&N for fine. Vallejo, Plebo, and Hayden. Tamiya for dry brushing. Cheap
arse brushed for basing and scenery.

> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

Where every I can - halogin desk lamps

> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

Clean up, assemble, wash, dry, spray prime, spot brush prime, base coat,
defining washes, highlighting etc.

> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

fairly similair which is why I'm going to live forever.

--
Rob Singers
RGMW FAQ Maintainer. See it @ http://www.rgmw.org
Foemina Erit Ruina Tua

Lief

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Sep 21, 2006, 8:35:19 PM9/21/06
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"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?
>

Patience, colour co-ordination and having a vision of the final product in
mind before you start.


>
> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)
>

I use citadel paints, and humbrol brushes (not the best quality I guess, but
work fine for me).


>
> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

At a desk, preferebly with natural light (I have big windows), failing that,
a standard bulb desk lamp, I'll only do details in 'real' light though.

>
>
> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

Prime, base, ink, re-base, highlight, detail.


>
>
> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

Rank and file tend to have less detail, so require less time, I try and
paint them all to the same quality, you only have to do it once, I don't see
the point in not doing something to the best of your ability.


>
>
> Thanks in advance for everyone's time,

No probs, just wish I had the time to paint :/


donovan...@yahoo.com

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Sep 21, 2006, 10:09:11 PM9/21/06
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Myrmidon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?

...just a little patience..yeah, yeah..practive, practice, practice,
technique, and practice. Seriously, nothing works so well as to improve
a skill as to do it to the best of your ability, and then do it again,
again, and again, never giving up and always trying to do better. Look
at some of these old-hat painters like Jim and MJB. They've been
painting long enough that they've developed skills, techniques, and
speed that you only get from that. I'm warming back up to it (still,
damn work and classes) and it just keeps getting easier and faster.
Those minis I posted recently (kewl, boobies) only took me about 4-6
hours to do all of them, and that's taking plenty of smoke/coffee/video
game breaks (I keep star wars battlfront 2 running 24 hours a day to
take quick homocidal breaks from my daily woes...highly therapeutic!!!)

The patience to experiment with new techniques and tools. Patience to
do a good job the first time around...i.e. if the primer isn't on
perfect, to the pickle jar (of CSC)! Make a mistake, go back and fix it
proper, don't cut corners that will show and ruin an otherwise good job
(mold lines that magically appear AFTER you prime, etc.)

> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

I learned to master the GW stuff years ago...of course simply going to
the warehouse and pulling new brushes and paints out almost daily made
the quality and price moot. Now, I've fallen in love with vallejo
paints...mmmmmmmmmmm-minty. Craft paints are good for what they are too
(I think of them as the beloved retarded brother, capable of doing LOTS
of hard and heavy work, and passable in a pinch but not my first pick
fror brain surgery).

Brushes...I use the same GW standard brush from 1999 for 80% of my work
(hey, if a million monkeys banging on keyboards can write shakespear, a
GW brush can be good once in a while!) I do also like the GW tank brush
for mega-drybrushing (also ancient). Otherwise, I'm an oppurtunist. I
do shop for quality for the detail work and fancy stuff, but basically
so long as the bristles don't fall out or self-destruct on first touch
of paint I can make it work for me.

I also have a cheap airbrush and compressor which I haven't used for
wargaming miniatures, but has worked wonders for my scale modelling
priming and painting (and painting nekkid ladies for other kinds of
games).

> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

Just set it up a few months ago, only actually used it 4-5 times :o(

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/borscope/IM000301.jpg

Now, my workshop on the other hand...(for soldering, enginering, and
modelling) There's more in the bathroom, kitchen, and back porch.
(Note: This apartment is where I go to get away from people like a big
den, not where I live)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/borscope/workshop.jpg

> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

Primer a bunch of stuff black, layers of drybrushing, paint details,
ink, highlight (usually wetbrush for "clean" stuff, drybrush for
weathered stuff).=game ready
Add super detail as appropriate (eyes, tattoos, etc.)
I like to paint in batches, even if they're different minis. Keeps me
from getting bored.

> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

These days I try to produce every mini to "above average" standard
unless it's a "for fun" mash-up mini or a prototype to figure out a
paint scheme. I usually put paint on in thin enough layers I can just
paint over my old paintjobs without losing detail. Besides. it doesn't
really take me much longer than "Blah" painting as my biggest time sink
is figuring out what I'm going to do, and taking breaks.

John Hwang

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Sep 22, 2006, 1:25:46 AM9/22/06
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Myrmidon wrote:
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?

Skills? Painting skills, of course.

Much more important is having a goal, a work plan, and the perseverance
to follow-through work the plan.

Having some knowledge of color theory and design is also helpful.

> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

Citadel Colour & Polly Scale acrylic paint. Da Vinci & Atlas sable
brushes.

BSI Adhesive CA. Testors liquid & gel cement.

Brass rod for pinning.

> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

Desk or kitchen table. Halogen lighting.

> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

0. Remove all mold lines and completely assemble, pinning all metal.
1. Prime "completely" (98%)
2. Basecoat
3. Shadow wash & blackline
4. Topcoat
5. Highlight & shade

I work from large to small.

> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

I generally paint until "done.

I try to spend under half an hour per mini en masse, with total work
time targeted something like 1 hour per 28mm mini. Time is squishy, as
I used to paint in front of the TV.

Large models get much more time. Including build time, along with the
heavy weathering on my Land Raider, I probably spent at least 3 hours on it.


--
--- John Hwang "JohnHwang...@cs.com.no.com"
\-|-/
| A.K.D. F.E.M.C.
| Horned Blood Cross Terror LED Speed Jagd Destiny

Qrab

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Sep 22, 2006, 10:06:47 AM9/22/06
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In article <MPG.1f7c8df06...@news-server.woh.rr.com>,
Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
> skillful painter?

Patience and a steady hand.



> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
> etc.)

Vallejo Model Colors, Tamiya Clear Colors, and Winsor & Newton Series 7
brushes.


> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
> area and lighting.

Elevated drafting table with three lamps. True light bulbs. Comfortable
office chair (mine's circa 1950).



> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
> when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

Write down all paint mixtures and steps used.



> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

All minis painted to the same level.

John Hwang

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Sep 22, 2006, 11:16:39 AM9/22/06
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Qrab wrote:
> Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:

>> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
>> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
>> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)
>
> All minis painted to the same level.

I suspect that, for WFB, one can get away with basecoating rear rankers,
and only detailing heads, shoulders, and weapons... ;)

Hardrock Llewynyth

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Sep 23, 2006, 12:08:01 AM9/23/06
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Thus saith Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> the Unworthy, in the year of Our
Lord, Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:57:37 GMT:

>1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a
>skillful painter?

Patience, above and beyond anything else.
Persistance.
Creativity.
High alcohol tolerance.

>2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes,
>etc.)

So far I tend to prefer Tamiya paints and especially primer. But I
haven't tried the Vallejo yet. No particular liking or hatred for GW
in general, aside from the fact that their paint pots suck ass; but I
do like their inks. And I have heard that a company whose name i
forget is bringing back some of their discontinued colours (yay,
amethyst!)

As for brushes, I generally use Daniel Smith synthetic acrylic and
kolinsky sable watercolour brushes.

>3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work
>area and lighting.

I live in a large shoebox, so I'm usually sitting in bed with a box or
tray with my stuff on it, a case with my paints beside me, and a
moving playing on the tv.

>4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often
>when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)

Usually a base coat, followed by either a ink or paintwash,
drybrushing highlights if necessary, then picking out details.

>5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
>vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
>level, or spend more time on certain minis?)

I haven't really paid that much attention. I haven't really done any
"special" minis, and i'm not really a good enough painter to do them
justice anyway.

Hardrock, who likes painting, despite his complete lack of talent
--
Many desire to kill me, and many wish to spend an hour chatting with me.
The law protects me from the former. --Karl Kraus

donovan...@yahoo.com

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John Hwang wrote:
> Qrab wrote:
> > Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> >> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> >> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)
> >
> > All minis painted to the same level.
>
> I suspect that, for WFB, one can get away with basecoating rear rankers,
> and only detailing heads, shoulders, and weapons... ;)

Considering how often my guys run away, I can't take that shortcut ;oP

Rob Singers

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Sep 23, 2006, 5:04:27 AM9/23/06
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Between saving the world and having a spot of tea said

>> I suspect that, for WFB, one can get away with basecoating rear rankers,
>> and only detailing heads, shoulders, and weapons... ;)
>
> Considering how often my guys run away, I can't take that shortcut ;oP

You need a Dwarf army. One of the things I've heard from oppents most is
basically "right he cause fear you'll need to roll ... ah bollocks"

donovan...@yahoo.com

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Sep 23, 2006, 10:32:47 AM9/23/06
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Rob Singers wrote:
> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea said
>
> >> I suspect that, for WFB, one can get away with basecoating rear rankers,
> >> and only detailing heads, shoulders, and weapons... ;)
> >
> > Considering how often my guys run away, I can't take that shortcut ;oP
>
> You need a Dwarf army. One of the things I've heard from oppents most is
> basically "right he cause fear you'll need to roll ... ah bollocks"

I'll play dwarves when someone can put out a full line of dwarves like
this:
http://www.reapermini.com/products/14191_G.jpg
and not ones like a bunch of armored, bearded squigs.

Rob Singers

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Sep 23, 2006, 7:00:37 PM9/23/06
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Between saving the world and having a spot of tea said

> I'll play dwarves when someone can put out a full line of dwarves like


> this:
> http://www.reapermini.com/products/14191_G.jpg
> and not ones like a bunch of armored, bearded squigs.

I'm not so keen on the 'slim' dwarf minis you get, same way I'm not so keen
on some of the angular faced orc ranges.

Qrab

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Sep 24, 2006, 2:22:47 PM9/24/06
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In article <r7TQg.209$fl2.78@trnddc02>,
John Hwang <JohnHw...@cs.com.no.com> wrote:

> Qrab wrote:
> > Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> >> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> >> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)
> >
> > All minis painted to the same level.
>
> I suspect that, for WFB, one can get away with basecoating rear rankers,
> and only detailing heads, shoulders, and weapons... ;)

One could do that if one had lower standards than mine.

John Hwang

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Sep 24, 2006, 2:50:53 PM9/24/06
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Qrab wrote:
> John Hwang <JohnHw...@cs.com.no.com> wrote:

>> I suspect that, for WFB, one can get away with basecoating rear
>> rankers, and only detailing heads, shoulders, and weapons... ;)
>
> One could do that if one had lower standards than mine.

That is only because you play tiny Nurgle armies.

If you ever try to paint an army with massed blocks of cheap T3 models
-cough-Empire!-cough- you might change your tune to play as you go.

;)

You get great results on your Nurgle models, but I have a hard time
seeing how it would scale to an army with 3x or 4x the model count.

Frankus Macimus

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Sep 26, 2006, 2:04:00 AM9/26/06
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Myrmidon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm curious as to how folks here feel about the following...
>
> 1. What skill or skills do you think are most important to being a skillful painter?
>
Skills or attributes? As mentioned before, Patience, a steady hand
(lay off the caffeine or brace your arms on the table), a plan before
you paint, and don't let yourself get overwhelmed, pick a set number of
figs and work on those first.

>
> 2. What painting tools do you favor? (I.e. paint brands, brushes, etc.)
>
I'm trying to expand my tools as I try to catch my painted figs to figs
bought. I use primarily GW paints transferred to dropper bottles.
Brushes I use a combination of W&N, Armoury, Loew-Cornell, and GW, it
depends on what I needed and what was in stock.

I primarily use distilled water to thin paints although I'm beginning
to use Delta Ceramcoat Acrylic Thinner and looking to use DC Gel
Blending Medium and Color Float. I also need to get some
soap/conditioner to get some of my brushes in better shape.

I work off of an off-white ceramic tile although I want to transition
to a wet pallete and have set aside a bit here and a bit there to
create one, I just haven't put it to practice


>
> 3. Where do you usually do your minis painting - describe your work area and lighting.
>

My girlfriend and I share an apartment so I don't have a dedicated
workspace. My favorite is the dining room table with a nice sliding
glass door providing natural light. I also use a halogen desk lamp
although I'm intrigued by Ott Lights and day light bulbs.

Normally, I use an old microwave tray (has a lip to keep paint in plus
I can cut/glue/file and not worry about damaging the table or having
bits roll off). Under the tray I have a white cover or white paper to
add a little brightness to the work area.


>
> 4. Do you have a favorite process or set of steps you tend to use often when painting minis? (If so, please a quick description.)
>

Just a bad habit, "I'm painting 'black' what other models need black"
and then I end up with too many figs on the table and not enough done.
So I have a lot of figs on an assembly line and I don't finish much.

I need to focus on a squad at a time and it stays a lot less daunting.


>
> 5. How much time do you tend to spend on painting 'rank & file' minis
> vs. painting 'special' minis? (Do you paint them all to the same
> level, or spend more time on certain minis?)
>

I'm spending too much time on rank and file because I get easily
distracted and probably a little overwhelmed. I start with say 10
models and end up with 20, 30, or even 40 on the table in front of me.

I'll let you know more once I finally get to special minis. ;-)


>
>
> Thanks in advance for everyone's time,
>
> Myrmidon
>

it's been a pleasure going over some of my bad habits.

--Frank

estarriol

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Sep 28, 2006, 6:23:10 AM9/28/06
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<donovan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159021967.6...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

thats easy, the LOTR Dwarves fall into this catergory nicely, except a few
of the character poses, and then there are the Vendel Dwarves.

--
estarriol


Jim M

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Oct 4, 2006, 11:30:35 PM10/4/06
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In article <1159021967.6...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
donovan...@yahoo.com says...
and what's wrong with armored, bearded squigs? They make for easy
roasting you know...

donovan...@yahoo.com

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> > I'll play dwarves when someone can put out a full line of dwarves like
> > this:
> > http://www.reapermini.com/products/14191_G.jpg
> > and not ones like a bunch of armored, bearded squigs.
> >
> >
> and what's wrong with armored, bearded squigs? They make for easy
> roasting you know...

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