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Myrmidon

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Dec 7, 2009, 10:35:15 PM12/7/09
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Howdy,

I'm sure they're up in more than one place, but here's a link to
the BoLS article with better pics of the new Nid minis...

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/12/40k-news-tyranids-advanced-
orders-up.html

While it's nice to know they're coming out with some 'big kits'
for the Nids, I'm unimpressed with the plastic Trygon. The head doesn't
do much for me, and combined with the 'stubby' arms I find it pretty
"Meh" overall. The Mawloc better come with some pretty interesting
rules, because model wise - it's down right ugly. And not in a 'cool'
way. If you've ever wondered what it would look like if an upside down
christmas tree exploded - this is pretty much it.

The new pyro-vore on the otherhand is much improved. Gone is the
look of constipation. This thing looks like it wants to do some damage,
and not like it just realized it shouldn't have eaten that third block
of cheese.

The new tyrant guard is just as disappointing to me as the 4th
edition tyrant guards. It's new weapon looks like nothing more than a
remodeled venom cannon. The red and pink color scheme isn't exactly
helping it out either...

And last but not least - the venomthorpe. Which comes off as "I
ran out of ideas so I simply rummaged through my bits box." kind of bad.
And if the top of that thing isn't plastic, it's going to earn itself
the 'worst metal mini design of the year' award too. Who honestly
though a huge metal top heavy mini on a dinky metal post was a good
idea?!? Seriously? It was a crap design on the 4th Edition Zoanthrope,
and it's even worse here. It's going to take A LOT of scenic basing to
support this thing. Otherwise, buy glue. Lots of glue...

Myr -one out of four ain't bad?- midon

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Playa

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Dec 8, 2009, 12:38:02 AM12/8/09
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Hey,

On Dec 7, 10:35 pm, Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:
> I'm unimpressed with the plastic Trygon

My rule of thumb is 'it has to look good at arm's length'.
Otherwise, it's almost always too busy/ overdone.
That's the case here - it doesn't look special.

> The Mawloc better come with some pretty interesting rules

It's the new Red Terror.

> model wise - it's down right ugly

Ref: the films _Blade_ and _Predator_.

>         The new pyro-vore on the otherhand is much improved

That's not saying much, imo. Still a silly name, too.
I note that its vital "gun" looks completely unarmored.

>         The new tyrant guard is just as disappointing to me as the 4th
> edition tyrant guards.

A slight improvement. Their v4 rules were stupid, though.
This new one's that >< close to being a v5 Zoat.

> the venomthorpe.  Which comes off as "I
> ran out of ideas so I simply rummaged through my bits box."

I'm not sold on the whole Eric Halfasnake form.
It seems as lame as the Floating Brain idea.
And how old is Carpenter's _The Thing_?

Imo, Nids should ALL seem chitinous - no squishy ones in there.
It's not as though there aren't enough insects to serve as
inspiration!

> It was a crap design on the 4th Edition Zoanthrope

See the DE Talos model re: identical ignorance of basic physics.

Are the preview Codexes are in stores, yet?
I'd heard there was a problem with the print run.


Playa

Matt C

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:54:53 AM12/8/09
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>total snip<

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?
catId=cat1490603&rootCatGameStyle=

Myrmidon

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:04:27 AM12/8/09
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In article <Xns9CDB6F01E30...@69.16.176.253>,
no...@noway.jose says...
> >total snip<
>
> http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?
> catId=cat1490603&rootCatGameStyle=
>
>
Thanks for the link. It's nice to see some of the sprues.
Interestingly enough, the Trygon comes with both the 'regular' (Carnifex
like) Scything talons and the 'thick & stubby' type scything talons too.
Which is a nice compromise since I for one find the stubby ones goofy
looking when compaired the talons on 80% of the rest of the Nid model
range.

I'm actually liking the looks of the plastic Gargoyles - though it'll
cost a fair bit if one wants to make a decent sized unit or two of them,
but still far FAR better than buying the craptacular metal ones.

Like the pyro-vore, but looking at it along side the current biovore
makes the current vore look even worse - "My Doctor says I have to take
a laxative!!!"

Still not sold on the 'Hive Guard' - ranged indirect cannon or not - and
the fact that it has no more detail than the warriors, carnifex, or
raveners, but only comes in metal is definitely a turn off for me.

Venomthrope - top heavy & all metal - enough said.

Myr

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and I'm too knackered for riotous living..."

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Myrmidon

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:16:02 AM12/8/09
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In article <fd465c2f-d65f-43da-bfb0-02c980a15b60
@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, johnpau...@gmail.com says...

>
> Hey,
>
> On Dec 7, 10:35 pm, Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:
> > I'm unimpressed with the plastic Trygon
>
> My rule of thumb is 'it has to look good at arm's length'.
> Otherwise, it's almost always too busy/ overdone.
> That's the case here - it doesn't look special.
>
It's a little big to ride the short bus...

> > The Mawloc better come with some pretty interesting rules
>
> It's the new Red Terror.

Scale wise, it would fit the fluff...


>
> > model wise - it's down right ugly

Butt-ugly. And seriously, who looked at that model and said "You
know what? Some goofy 'Walt Disney bug antenna' would look great!"


>
> Ref: the films _Blade_ and _Predator_.
>

True, but they didn't make it suck like this.


> >         The new pyro-vore on the otherhand is much improved
>
> That's not saying much, imo. Still a silly name, too.
> I note that its vital "gun" looks completely unarmored.
>

The unarmored gun doesn't bother me over all. It still looks like
it wants to kill something. The Bio-vore 4th Ed model looks like it
wants a laxative and a joint so it can get stoned and crap its pants.

> >         The new tyrant guard is just as disappointing to me as the 4th
> > edition tyrant guards.
>
> A slight improvement. Their v4 rules were stupid, though.
> This new one's that >< close to being a v5 Zoat.

Technically it sounds like they're 'Hive Guard' and thus some sort
of addition rather than a replacement for the Tyrant Guard. Which means
we're still stuck with 'Guards in the Mist' co-starring Jane Goodall.


>
> > the venomthorpe.  Which comes off as "I
> > ran out of ideas so I simply rummaged through my bits box."
>
> I'm not sold on the whole Eric Halfasnake form.
> It seems as lame as the Floating Brain idea.
> And how old is Carpenter's _The Thing_?
>
> Imo, Nids should ALL seem chitinous - no squishy ones in there.
> It's not as though there aren't enough insects to serve as
> inspiration!

Nothing says 'Species that survives space travel without metal
spaceships' like a squishy unarmored body.


>
> > It was a crap design on the 4th Edition Zoanthrope
>
> See the DE Talos model re: identical ignorance of basic physics.
>

GW Employee: Cha-Ching$$$ - Thanks for the money. Oh, and by the way,
your mini will self-destruct. It's only a matter of time. Want me to
reserve another copy for you?

> Are the preview Codexes are in stores, yet?
> I'd heard there was a problem with the print run.
>

Not a clue. Haven't been by the FLGS in a while.

Matt C

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Dec 8, 2009, 11:39:01 AM12/8/09
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>snip<

> Venomthrope - top heavy & all metal - enough said.
>
> Myr
>

I'm baffled as to why they make any of these big beasties in metal, let
alone one that's so complicated, top and front heavy and balanced on such a
tiny point.

Madness.

Doctor Rock

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Dec 8, 2009, 1:46:51 PM12/8/09
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"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25880ad73...@news.eternal-september.org...

> In article <Xns9CDB6F01E30...@69.16.176.253>,
> no...@noway.jose says...
>> >total snip<
>>
>> http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?
>> catId=cat1490603&rootCatGameStyle=
>>
>>
> Thanks for the link. It's nice to see some of the sprues.
> Interestingly enough, the Trygon comes with both the 'regular' (Carnifex
> like) Scything talons and the 'thick & stubby' type scything talons too.
> Which is a nice compromise since I for one find the stubby ones goofy
> looking when compaired the talons on 80% of the rest of the Nid model
> range.

the visual effect is somewhat undermined (hee-haw) by the fact that it
couldn't, physiologically speaking, actually dig a tunnel with EITHER set of
talons... but then, asking for models consistent with the background text
would just be unreasonable.

> Venomthrope - top heavy & all metal - enough said.

wait, that thing is metal?? what the everfucking shit are they putting in
the coffee machines at GWHQ?

Richard Busby

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Dec 8, 2009, 1:52:40 PM12/8/09
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Doctor Rock wrote:
>
> wait, that thing is metal?? what the everfucking shit are they putting
> in the coffee machines at GWHQ?

They are drunk with the blood of their victims, er customers.

Blackheart

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Dec 8, 2009, 9:30:46 PM12/8/09
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On Dec 8, 1:46 pm, "Doctor Rock" <mala...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> wait, that thing is metal??  what the everfucking shit are they putting in
> the coffee machines at GWHQ?

remember when they stopped using lead for the models back in the day
and had to pull everything?

Myrmidon

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Dec 8, 2009, 9:57:41 PM12/8/09
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In article <b0ef0c41-968a-4f40-8060-
1efc68...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, blackhear...@yahoo.com
says...
Well, that would explain the shiny rings along their gumlines...

Myr

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Doctor Rock

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Dec 9, 2009, 2:29:38 AM12/9/09
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"Blackheart" <blackhear...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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=====

yeah, i thought that right after i'd posted

Playa

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:56:59 AM12/12/09
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Hey,

On Dec 8, 1:46 pm, "Doctor Rock" <mala...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> models consistent with the background

Consistent dioramas from the Dwarf:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3370/56450925.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5776/78921396.jpg


Playa

Insane Ranter

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Dec 12, 2009, 9:52:30 AM12/12/09
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Ughhh now I wanna make Nids but I think eveyrone and their kiddie bro
would have them too....

Myrmidon

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:03:32 AM12/12/09
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In article <d62b8359-e341-40db-be88-
21031e...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, log...@gmail.com says...
Exactly how much do you like painting 10,000 minis for your first
500 point game?

Myr :P
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After this thread, I might just go back to dating!!!!!

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Myrmidon

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:11:42 AM12/12/09
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In article <40d47f52-fb8f-478b-87f6-091cb411a5e2
@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnpau...@gmail.com says...
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the 'side fangs' on either the Raveners
OR the Trygon's head. What, are they genetic descendents of Elvis?
The Raveners are nothing more than a plastic base section with a warrior
body and limbs and a bad head swap. And they want an extra $10 for
this?

And the Mawloc. Blargh!

Myr

I'm already guessing that there'll be some sort of 'deep strike jammer'
coming out for standard 40K before to long. At a nominal price for the
'upgrade sprue'.


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Craig Little

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:05:48 AM12/13/09
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Myrmidon wrote:
> In article <d62b8359-e341-40db-be88-
> 21031e...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, log...@gmail.com says...
>> On Dec 12, 1:56 am, Playa
>>
> Exactly how much do you like painting 10,000 minis for your first
> 500 point game?

I've played Skaven Undead & pure-Goblin in WFB, so 40k 'hordes' are nothing
--
Craig (If my job and family situation was rectified, I might even play 40K5)


Myrmidon

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:13:14 AM12/13/09
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In article <4b24...@news.x-privat.org>, c_li...@bmx.bom says...

> Myrmidon wrote:
> > In article <d62b8359-e341-40db-be88-
> > 21031e...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, log...@gmail.com says...
> >> On Dec 12, 1:56 am, Playa
> >>
> > Exactly how much do you like painting 10,000 minis for your first
> > 500 point game?
>
> I've played Skaven Undead & pure-Goblin in WFB, so 40k 'hordes' are nothing

Nids, Orks, & IG are all rapidly approaching WFB levels in terms
of numbers of meat-shields one ends up with on the table top if not
playing a Mech / Nidzilla style army.

>
> --
> Craig (If my job and family situation was rectified, I might even play 40K5)

Sorry to hear things are working out great on that front. It's
hard enough figuring yourself out most days - guaging others can be even
tougher. Are you still working on the AB Tau BFG files? I noticed an
update for AB's BFG files came out a while back and was thinking of you.


Myrmidon

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Craig Little

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Dec 14, 2009, 12:34:01 AM12/14/09
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Myrmidon wrote:
> In article <4b24...@news.x-privat.org>, c_li...@bmx.bom says...
Are you still working on the AB Tau BFG files? I
> noticed an update for AB's BFG files came out a while back and was
> thinking of you.
>
I've never upgraded to AB3 so don't have the new construction kit, so I've
not done anything to it for a while. Once I do upgrade I'll be making Tau
BFG and Epic files, if only to please myself.
--
Craig (Curses, spoiled again)


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