Bartertown BS
Paul Perry
with all of these blanket ads in every category. I go in and am looking at
historicals, and behold what should pop up, hundreds of WHFB and 40K ads in
the historicals sections. Also hundreds of GW ads in the Big Robot and RPG
sections.
Is this site ever going to be fixed? I would ask the Bartertown sponsors out
there to use your priviledge to contact Bartertown and get this cleared up.
I for one won't be browsing it again anytime soon.
Paul
Blackheart
wrote:
but his discussion board is more on topic than RGMW....
Blackheart
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Opinions stated are mine.... deal with it
Bob Rodgers
: ><What the hell is up with Bartertown??? I can't believe it still isn't fixed...........<snip>
I don't think there was ever a real attempt to "fix" it.
If you look, you'll see that most of the violators are also sponsors
who get "special priveledges".
Its too bad that they can't understand that not everyone wants to read
their ads. IMAGINE THAT !!!!
Oh well, its a private site. And from what I hear, its likely to be
getting less and less business because of their policing decisions.
Bob R.
La Grief
Blackheart <twiligh...@qis.net> wrote in message
news:393f9842...@news.qis.net...
| On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:01:05 -0700, "Paul Perry" <mad...@uswest.net>
| wrote:
|
| >What the hell is up with Bartertown??? I can't believe it still isn't fixed
| >with all of these blanket ads in every category. I go in and am looking at
| >historicals, and behold what should pop up, hundreds of WHFB and 40K ads in
| >the historicals sections. Also hundreds of GW ads in the Big Robot and RPG
| >sections.
| >Is this site ever going to be fixed? I would ask the Bartertown sponsors out
| >there to use your priviledge to contact Bartertown and get this cleared up.
| >I for one won't be browsing it again anytime soon.
Ah, but you see they don't have half as many flame wars...
--
-Son of Poldark
(AKA Lee)
You're SOOO Cheesy, using super slick teflon trainers of terror...
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Adam Tobia
> >with all of these blanket ads in every category. I go in and am looking at
> >historicals, and behold what should pop up, hundreds of WHFB and 40K ads in
> >the historicals sections. Also hundreds of GW ads in the Big Robot and RPG
> >sections.
> >Is this site ever going to be fixed? I would ask the Bartertown sponsors out
> >there to use your priviledge to contact Bartertown and get this cleared up.
> >I for one won't be browsing it again anytime soon.
trade...@bartertown.org to contact the person in charge (me). My inbox is
empty, e-mail anytime.
If you look at those ads, all of them (99%) have a reference to historical
whether it is WHFB for trade for Historical or Historical for sale, 40k for sale
too.
I think I might split the sections in two and not allow this, what do you guys
think? Not many Historical people are interested in WHFB.
-Trademaster Adam
Hooked on lead crack
Adam Tobia wrote in message <393FC1D1...@bartertown.org>...
>If you look at those ads, all of them (99%) have a reference to historical
>whether it is WHFB for trade for Historical or Historical for sale, 40k for
sale
>too.
>
>I think I might split the sections in two and not allow this, what do you
guys
>think? Not many Historical people are interested in WHFB.
>
>-Trademaster Adam
Any time that We've offered GW stuff in exchange for Historicals (on the
relevant GW sections *and* the Historical section), I've managed to get a
trade. As long as they're posted appropriately, I think that the ads are
fine. Granted, I've been flamed/harassed by some uptight people about
offering GW stuff in exchange for Historicals but the ads were *perfectly*
legal and followed bartertown rules. Funny how the harassment stopped when
forwarded to Trademaster Adam & the sender's email server/ work account with
the subject line "Stop Harassing Me!"...I guess that the sender's boss
didn't like him using company time to trade on bartertown or bother people
using a company email account :-)
-Madeline & Allan
Jimi
> think? Not many Historical people are interested in WHFB.
If someone is selling WFB minis then his add goes into the WFB - For Sale
section, if he's after 40k minis then his ad goes into the 40k - Wanted section.
The problem you have is that too many cross-posts are ruining an excellent idea
of a central trading website. You should really sort these problems out before
embarking upon small projects like message boards.
Get rid of the cross-posts and people will be happy. Also, remove the ability to
post in HTML - the recent ad from BC Hobby was just bloody ridiculous!!
Jimi
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Adam Tobia
e-mailed me and asked me to take it down.
I am thinking about revising the sections to be:
Science Fiction (40k, etc.)
Fantasy (WHFB, RPG, etc.)
Historical (ancient)
Historical (musket)
Historical (twentieth)
Collectable Card Games
Comics
RC Car
Computer & Console Games
Paintball
Coins & Collectables
Retailers
Terrain
And as always, you can search by text so if you're looking for Eldar, you type in
"Eldar" and get all of the Eldar ads.
Let me know, I'm itching to revise...
I need to have a method to separate the trades and off topic posts...
Any suggestions? The code is fairly flexible, I can do most things.
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Paul Perry
Paul Perry <mad...@uswest.net> wrote in message
news:1dR%4.213$zK6....@news.uswest.net...
>
> Adam Tobia <barte...@bartertown.org> wrote in message
> news:393FC1D1...@bartertown.org...
> > > >What the hell is up with Bartertown??? I can't believe it still isn't
> fixed
> > > >with all of these blanket ads in every category. I go in and am
looking
> at
> > > >historicals, and behold what should pop up, hundreds of WHFB and 40K
> ads in
> > > >the historicals sections. Also hundreds of GW ads in the Big Robot
and
> RPG
> > > >sections.
> > > >Is this site ever going to be fixed? I would ask the Bartertown
> sponsors out
> > > >there to use your priviledge to contact Bartertown and get this
cleared
> up.
> > > >I for one won't be browsing it again anytime soon.
> >
> > trade...@bartertown.org to contact the person in charge (me). My
inbox
> is
> > empty, e-mail anytime.
> >
historical
> > whether it is WHFB for trade for Historical or Historical for sale, 40k
> for sale
> > too.
and
> Musket" for example had NOTHING to do with Historicals. I invite anyone
here
> to look as well. The site is a mess Adam, and everything is x-posted all
> over the place.
Follow up. I was wrong about H & M as an example. I was looking at a section
last night in historicals. The main problems that were up last night and
today are in the "Painters for Hire" section (A LOT of non-painting ads),
Big Robot, RPG etc.
> >
> > I think I might split the sections in two and not allow this, what do
you
> guys
> > think? Not many Historical people are interested in WHFB.
> >
> > -Trademaster Adam
> >
>
>
Adam M. Tobia
> before they go up. Can't be that hard?
60+ ads a day, every day, each day, without break. I do review the ad sections
twice a day or so and make changes/yell at people where appropriate.
-Adam
www.bartertown.org
BGHS
How come if I searched for Flintloque, I got a whole bunch of
ads that didn't have mention of Flintloque?
Lon Weiss
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ZippoNiner
<na...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>Funny how the harassment stopped when
>forwarded to Trademaster Adam & the sender's email server/ work account with
>the subject line "Stop Harassing Me!"...I guess that the sender's boss
>didn't like him using company time to trade on bartertown or bother people
>using a company email account :-)
So you deal with people getting upset about your crossposting by
ratting them out...
--
ZippoNiner
Adam Tobia
Lon,
Hit Edit then "find in page" it will point out all of the instances of
Flintloque in each of the ads.
Most of those ads are like: For Sale (then 3 pages of stuff for sale) then at
the end Wanted: Flintloque
But I assure you that all of the ads have "Flintloque" in them.
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Travis Price
I just typed in 'Warzone' and using the 'find' method you descibe went past
20+ messages before finding an instance of the word warzone.
On another note I must tell you that your sight has help me out alot.
Thanx!
Semper Sevus,
Travis Price
"Adam Tobia" <barte...@bartertown.org> wrote in message
news:394008DE...@bartertown.org...
BGHS
Flintloque somewhere on it. The problem is the page could
contain hundreds of other ads and one flintloque ad. You should
post a note that the search function finds the section
(categories) pages that match, not individual ads.
Specify someone use the find in page feature of the browser to
search ads on a page. (This is what I did after trying the
search and before posting my comments).
Lon
Hooked on lead crack
ZippoNiner wrote in message ...
>So you deal with people getting upset about your crossposting by
>ratting them out...
When they harass me for no good reason, YES! My ads were perfectly legit:
Want to get rid of GW/ Want to pick up Historicals. Posted in both sections.
Paul Perry
Bob Rodgers <brod...@ttlc.net> wrote in message
news:393fae78...@news.ttlc.net...
> "Paul Perry" <mad...@uswest.net> wrote:
>
> : ><What the hell is up with Bartertown??? I can't believe it still isn't
fixed...........<snip>
>
> I don't think there was ever a real attempt to "fix" it.
> If you look, you'll see that most of the violators are also sponsors
> who get "special priveledges".
>
> Its too bad that they can't understand that not everyone wants to read
> their ads. IMAGINE THAT !!!!
>
> Oh well, its a private site. And from what I hear, its likely to be
> getting less and less business because of their policing decisions.
Yeah, I also remember that whole BC Hobby thing. That guy is just completely
clueless. And a moron to boot. As for Bartertown, with sponsors like BC
Hobby and their completely OT blanket ads, and with Adam's seeming inability
to control the constant x-posting on the site, I won't even use it.
If I have an ad to place I'll put it on this NG as I always have with very
good success.
Paul
>
> Bob R.
Craig Lay
of late. I managed to aquire and get rid of a ton of stuff a couple of months ago,
but when I search nowadays I get alot of adds I have no interest in. I have a
couple of ideas that may help clean up the problems a bit.
1. Make the keyword search only match on complete words. For example, when I
searched on "vor" today, I got tons of posts with "biovore" in them but no Vor
stuff. Alternatively, have 2 different search options, one for partial match and
one for complete.
2. Change the data files and the posting form to recognize separate "wanted" and
"for trade" fields. This way you could have two different search types--one for
wanted and one for available. You would eliminate alot of unwanted hits this way.
For example, I want Chronopia figures. I just use the "search for available" with
chronopia and I get all adds that have Chronopia figures for sale/trade. As is now
I also get all the other people also looking for the figures.
-Craig Lay
Adam Tobia wrote:
> If you look at those ads, all of them (99%) have a reference to historical
> whether it is WHFB for trade for Historical or Historical for sale, 40k for sale
> too.
>
Chern Ann
before they go up. Can't be that hard?
Chern Ann
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"Adam Tobia" <barte...@bartertown.org> wrote in message
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> > > I think I might split the sections in two and not allow this, what do
you guys
> > > think? Not many Historical people are interested in WHFB.
> >
La Grief
Hooked on lead crack <na...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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I think it said somewhere about posting it to historical for trade, looking for GW
or something similar though...
--
-Lee
"Pappara funi-funi pappara hoe-hoe, Pappara funi-funi potatoes
Pappara funi-funi pappara hoe-hoe, I boiled them and they melted" (c) Mink
Jim Cowling
>That ad from BC Hobby was a big mistake. After they posted it, they
> immediately
>e-mailed me and asked me to take it down.
IMHO, you shouldn't allow BC Hobby to post to Bartertown at all. They're
untrustworthy, which is why EBay suspended their account (shill bidding).
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http://members.home.com/scowling -- scow...@home.com
Nobody reads Usenet to have their mind changed, and nobody should post to Usenet
hoping to change someone's mind.
-------
Bevan Marchand
> I am thinking about revising the sections to be:
>
> Science Fiction (40k, etc.)
> Fantasy (WHFB, RPG, etc.)
> Historical (ancient)
> Historical (musket)
> Historical (twentieth)
Hi Adam,
It might just be me, but I don't think there are enough historical ads to
be worth splitting the sections. I always look at the "All
Historical" section at the moment, and get maybe 10 ads a day at the
very most? Are most other historical wargamers interested in all periods?
regards, Bevan
Bevan Marchand
possible solution:
Only items to be sold in the for sale section.
Only items wanted in the wanted section.
Person may state "Will (only) Trade, see my add in the (X) section."
This leaves no excuse for cross posting. It would be better if it was
possible to directly link the adds, though, rather than having to search
for the relevant add in another section. People could label their adds
(asdfghjkl, for example) and then searching would only produce the
required one.
Kevin Marema
> untrustworthy, which is why EBay suspended their account (shill bidding).
That, and if you check out their website, they're charging US$59.00 for a fucking Land Raider.
BC Hobby sucks. Oh, and they limit you to only one! I think that's called price gouging. Then
again, they're in Battle Creek, Michigan so what do you expect?
The Colonel.
77th Cadian Infantry
Adam Tobia
It works just fine for me, sorry man. Maybe you've got "match case" on in your
web browser which is causing it to skip all of those ads with Warzone in them.
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Travis Price wrote:
> Actually I think you need to look at that search thing better.
>
> I just typed in 'Warzone' and using the 'find' method you descibe went past
> 20+ messages before finding an instance of the word warzone.
>
> On another note I must tell you that your sight has help me out alot.
> Thanx!
>
> Semper Sevus,
> Travis Price
>
> "Adam Tobia" <barte...@bartertown.org> wrote in message
> news:394008DE...@bartertown.org...
> >
> > Lon,
> >
> > Hit Edit then "find in page" it will point out all of the instances of
> > Flintloque in each of the ads.
> >
> > Most of those ads are like: For Sale (then 3 pages of stuff for sale) then
> at
> > the end Wanted: Flintloque
> >
> > But I assure you that all of the ads have "Flintloque" in them.
> >
> > -Trademaster Adam
> > www.bartertown.org
> >
> > BGHS wrote:
> >
> > > Adam,
> > > How come if I searched for Flintloque, I got a whole bunch of
> > > ads that didn't have mention of Flintloque?
> > >
> > > Lon Weiss
> > >
Adam Tobia
> > immediately
> >e-mailed me and asked me to take it down.
>
> untrustworthy, which is why EBay suspended their account (shill bidding).
From what I understand, they have 3 or so people who live in the same area and are kids who
consistently bid on their auctions (shipping is free, all they have to do is drop by). BC Hobby
uses AOL, some of those kids do too, the overseers at eBay saw all the IPs coming from the same
area, same ISP and kicked BC Hobby. BC Hobby tried to fix it, eBay won't respond.
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Adam Tobia
1. Whoops, I thought it did that, I will check the posting system again and see if I
can fix it.
2. I try to minimize the number of sections. Before I was going for one section of all
of the games, now I think I am going to consolidate some of the sections (throw all
non-core gw games into one section) but split them by for sale/wanted.
I check the ads daily, it's hard to find someone who cross-posted (without spending
hours and hours on it).
One feature I did add (with the help of the ITL) is that right below the person's ad,
it says "Check what...@me.com on the ITL" (bad trader list). Click on that and see if
they're a bad trader.
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Craig Lay wrote:
> I still think that the site is a great idea, but it does seem to be slipping a bit
> of late. I managed to aquire and get rid of a ton of stuff a couple of months ago,
> but when I search nowadays I get alot of adds I have no interest in. I have a
> couple of ideas that may help clean up the problems a bit.
>
> 1. Make the keyword search only match on complete words. For example, when I
> searched on "vor" today, I got tons of posts with "biovore" in them but no Vor
> stuff. Alternatively, have 2 different search options, one for partial match and
> one for complete.
>
> 2. Change the data files and the posting form to recognize separate "wanted" and
> "for trade" fields. This way you could have two different search types--one for
> wanted and one for available. You would eliminate alot of unwanted hits this way.
> For example, I want Chronopia figures. I just use the "search for available" with
> chronopia and I get all adds that have Chronopia figures for sale/trade. As is now
> I also get all the other people also looking for the figures.
>
> -Craig Lay
>
> Adam Tobia wrote:
>
> > If you look at those ads, all of them (99%) have a reference to historical
> > whether it is WHFB for trade for Historical or Historical for sale, 40k for sale
> > too.
> >
> > I think I might split the sections in two and not allow this, what do you guys
> > think? Not many Historical people are interested in WHFB.
> >
> > -Trademaster Adam
Paul Perry
Adam Tobia <barte...@bartertown.org> wrote in message
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Adam Tobia
Yeah, I think I'm going to go for more of a distinction between for
sale/wanted/ and trading. What I was origionally going for was a section
for each game, now I think I am going to consolidate that and have more of a
split between wanted and for sale.
-Trademaster Adam
Kevin Marema
> consistently bid on their auctions (shipping is free, all they have to do is drop by). BC Hobby
> uses AOL, some of those kids do too, the overseers at eBay saw all the IPs coming from the same
> area, same ISP and kicked BC Hobby. BC Hobby tried to fix it, eBay won't respond.
On their eBay webpage, they state that they had an employee who kept bidding on their auctions and
while he intended on buying many of them, he never planned on buying other ones. Kinda strange.
We've got two stories from them explaining why they were accused of shill bidding. Ponder that one.
Adam Tobia
Mine is wrong I bet, I might be just pulling that out of my ass, never can tell. They do have
similarities, kid in their area kept bidding (employee). I dunno, I might be just getting senile.
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Paul Perry
throws at people is one of his employees bid on his auctions and he was
suspended for 90 days. Now after that 90 days BCHobby was suspended again.
Then, during the first suspension, just after BC Hobby was kicked off Ebay,
Hobbiesplus, another shop (Or as many suspect the same one) started up a new
account. Both shops are in Battle Creek Mich, Both sell the SAME exact
things, down to the "Cheap" Warhammer army knock-offs, and the "About me"
section on both is very similiar. Coincidence?
Then this guy acts like a 2 year old when people on Bartertown got pissed
because he was x-posting the hell out of the site. When he runs an auction
he WAITS for you to leave feedback first, and he is the seller, that way if
you leave him a negative or neutral, even if he is totally at fault, he then
throws a tantrum and will leave you feedback in retaliation only.
Marcus Kings line with Bartertown is "I am a sponsor, so I can do whatever
the hell I want". Funny, I see a ton of other sponsors, The Mage included,
that don't feel the need to abuse their privilidges on the site.
Oh, and the funny thing, about 6 months ago I had a run in with Mr. King
over the Ebay feedback thing (I won an auction a day before he was
suspended, I then refused to pay for that auction, and then called him on
his feedback behavior), This guy acted like a child. Threats, even posting
on Bartertown to try and get my address and phone number.
Supposedly he is a millionare that has an army of lawyers that he will throw
down on you like the wrath of God if you call him on anything;) ( I strongly
stress supposedly;).
The guy is a joke as far as I am concerned, and a lot of others as well I am
sure.
The fact that he has abused Bartertown the way he has, and that Adam has
still let him keep sponsoring the site, made me lose all respect for
Bartertown a while ago. I know you need the cash to keep the site maintaned
Adam, but please show some integrity and listen to all of the people, not
just me, that have complained about BC Hobby's behavior.
Hell, like I said before, if you cleaned up the x-posting and threw off BC
Hobby for abuse, I would DOUBLE whatever BC Hobby is paying you.
The site is a good idea, but with sponsors like BC Hobby, and the fact you
seem unable or unwilling to take care of those kinds of abuses in a stern
and final manner, well let's just say I will keep taking my business
elsewhere.
Paul
Adam Tobia <barte...@bartertown.org> wrote in message
news:3940FA0D...@bartertown.org...
> > >That ad from BC Hobby was a big mistake. After they posted it, they
> > > immediately
> > >e-mailed me and asked me to take it down.
> >
> > IMHO, you shouldn't allow BC Hobby to post to Bartertown at all.
They're
> > untrustworthy, which is why EBay suspended their account (shill
bidding).
>
> From what I understand, they have 3 or so people who live in the same area
and are kids who
> consistently bid on their auctions (shipping is free, all they have to do
is drop by). BC Hobby
> uses AOL, some of those kids do too, the overseers at eBay saw all the IPs
coming from the same
> area, same ISP and kicked BC Hobby. BC Hobby tried to fix it, eBay won't
respond.
>
> -Trademaster Adam
> www.bartertown.org
>
Adam Tobia
that I'm not a BC Hobby employee (but I thought some people would like some
answers).
> Both shops are in Battle Creek Mich, Both sell the SAME exact
> things, down to the "Cheap" Warhammer army knock-offs, and the "About me"
> section on both is very similiar. Coincidence?
Hobbysplus is owned by Rita (forgot her last name). It is entirely possible for
Battle Creek Mich to have two hobby stores. But you might be right, who knows
(not me). The reason why I know what I do is that Rita wants to advertise on my
page (haven't gotten around to it yet).
> Then this guy acts like a 2 year old when people on Bartertown got pissed
> because he was x-posting the hell out of the site.
We had a big long chat about that between myself and other peoples and BC Hobby
has agreed to not cross-post the hell out of the site with big long ads. They
have been very very good for the past couple of months and separate their ads
out all nice and neat. Also please realize that there's 3 or 4 guys at the helm
when it comes to BC Hobby, you might not be talking to Marcus.
I say this but then I just posted an ad for them which blanketed the entire site
(sorry about that) it's a link to all of their auction pages which have several
auctions for every section to which they were posted. The reason for it was
they haven't had the time lately to post stuff. A group of 20-30 cocksmokes in
Indonesia bought Paintball stuff from him. If you've been checking the news
lately, you might have heard about that Credit Card scam going on. The
insurance/credit card company protects the person whose card gets stolen, it
does not protect the person who takes the bogus card number so he lost $30,000
(his cost, not the retail price). Several other stores have been caught in this
scam and a couple have gone under because of it.
It's just a page, it's even all yellow so it's easy to skip.
I'm sure once the dust settles and they get back on their feet, they will post
nicely again, as you can guess, they're a bit short on time and money.
> When he runs an auction
> he WAITS for you to leave feedback first, and he is the seller, that way if
> you leave him a negative or neutral, even if he is totally at fault, he then
> throws a tantrum and will leave you feedback in retaliation only.
I don't blame him, I'm sure that is the same way I'd do it. Some buttwipe on
Yahoo posted feedback the second he won the auction saying their customer
service is horrible, the minis were late and damaged... he won the friggin
auction like 5 minutes ago and he's posting bad feedback?? Do you think Yahoo
gives a shiznit? Helll no. They didn't do anything (didn't take it down,
didn't e-mail that person, notta).
(Plus there's people like you, read on, who have admitted to doing this. You
admit you're one of those people who he has to keep his guard up on and then you
wonder why he has to do it ...)
Read some of his feedback. Some of it is bad, some of it is good, he admits to
screwing up most of the time.
> Marcus Kings line with Bartertown is "I am a sponsor, so I can do whatever
> the hell I want".
He's changed that, see above (and my page he plays nice now).
> Oh, and the funny thing, about 6 months ago I had a run in with Mr. King
> over the Ebay feedback thing (I won an auction a day before he was
> suspended, I then refused to pay for that auction, and then called him on
> his feedback behavior), This guy acted like a child. Threats, even posting
> on Bartertown to try and get my address and phone number.
> Supposedly he is a millionare that has an army of lawyers that he will throw
> down on you like the wrath of God if you call him on anything;) ( I strongly
> stress supposedly;).
Ok, let me get this straight. You win one of his auctions then you refuse to
pay it, post negative and slanderous feedback about him and his business then
you wonder why he gets ticked..... hmmm.... and you wonder why he waits until
the other posts feedback first....
> The fact that he has abused Bartertown the way he has,
"abused" past tense, he doesn't do it anymore.
> and that Adam has still let him keep sponsoring the site, made me lose all
> respect for
> Bartertown a while ago.
He straightened up, he plays nice. Show me why I should get rid of him and I
will strongly consider it. I should have ads from his last wave of postings,
I'll give you the raw data files (easier to find out what sections they went to)
and you can check his last round of posting, it was very nice, neat, orderly.
> I know you need the cash to keep the site maintaned
> Adam, but please show some integrity and listen to all of the people, not
> just me, that have complained about BC Hobby's behavior.
Wait for it.... wait for it....
> Hell, like I said before, if you cleaned up the x-posting and threw off BC
> Hobby for abuse, I would DOUBLE whatever BC Hobby is paying you.
Ahhh... there we go. In the above paragraph you state that I'm strapped for
cash and I'm only keeping them because I'm money hungry then in the below
paragraph you tell me you'd pay me double and yet I won't let you,
contradiction?
For the record, I am up to 3 companies whom I've turned down. 1 is a well known
discount miniature dealer (no I won't tell you who it is, I turned them down
because they abused bartertown back in the day when that could have gotten me
into a helllova lot of trouble and because of their reputation on the net)
another is a guy who was willing to pay me a helllova lot of money to advertise
for those "get paid while surfing the net" scams and the third was a guy who had
a page like mine. [no, I won't tell you any names/web sites/ e-mails of the
guys I had to turn down].
I also have a limit as to the number of retailers on the page and a maximum of
retailers I add each month. Right now I have only one waiting, last month I had
three waiting.
This is a part-time deal for me. I am a student and I have another full-time
job so this is not my primary source of income (my parents are, heh). Whenever
I screw something up I give that retailer a half month free. If you guys will
remember that soon after I went commercial, I was thrown off of a server (those
people at Globalwhatever are cocksmokers) into limbo and I was down for 5 days.
So, being down for 5 days, I gave ALL of the retailers ONE ENTIRE month free.
(and even though the retailer part wasn't working, I did still run
posting/selling/buying from my university site so users noticed an
inconvenience, but only 2 or so days of downtime).
> The site is a good idea, but with sponsors like BC Hobby, and the fact you
> seem unable or unwilling to take care of those kinds of abuses in a stern
> and final manner, well let's just say I will keep taking my business
> elsewhere.
Show me what ad (besides their last one) is abusive and I will go into the data
file, change it so that it's not abusive and shake a stern finger at them.
Sorry that BC Hobby ticked you off so much Paul, I thought you wanted to
advertise on my site, I'm sad to hear that is not the case.
What comapany do you own? (can't find it on the net, I forgot the name, I think
it was Emperor something) Did that work out?
I don't get the rec.games.miniatures.misc newsgroup at this terminal. If
someone has something to chat about over there, please either sent it to RGMW or
trade...@bartertown.org. My inbox is empty.
-"Trademaster" Adam Tobia
www.bartertown.org
Bob Rodgers
I just did a quick look at the "ALL HISTORICAL ADS" section.
I only looked at the month of June.
These are the ads that "I" would consider as being in the wrong
section.
6/1/00 Josh <shla...@aol.com> This ad is completely F/SF
6/2/00 Brian Franzman <gla...@aol.com> This ad is F/SF
6/2/00 Jim <jmu...@msmisp.com> Three ads ! All F/SF
6/3/00 Ludwig S. <wigg...@aol.com> Sci-Fi ad
6/4/00 Perry Gelwasser <per...@aol.com> Two ads ! both have a
few lines of historic and over 50 lines of F/SF listings.
6/5/00 Scott Monsour <smon...@mindspring.com> 1 line of
historical wants and 37 lines of F/SF for sale or trade.
6/6/00 Ronin Craftworks <ron...@dnai.com> Ad for a painting
service.
6/6/00 Kim Brasington <kibr...@wyoming.com> All Fantasy
6/7/00 BC Hobbies Nothing listed at all. Just a big banner ad.
6/8/00 Kevin <zer...@mailops.com> All Fantasy.
6/8/00 Battledress Studios <in...@battledress.co.uk> Ad for a
painting service.
Since Adam indicated that he didn't currently have the time to look
through the ads for x-posters, I thought I'd spend about 5 minutes.
Also, I have to agree with the complaints about the search engine.
Actually finding what you're looking for is much easier without it.
I like Bartertown. I just stopped using it because of the F/SF
crossposts clogging up the Historical section.
Bob R.
Adam Tobia
> I only looked at the month of June.
> These are the ads that "I" would consider as being in the wrong
> section.
All of these ads mention "Historical." When it says ALL historical ads,
it gives you ALL of them. ANY ad mentioning the word "Historical".
Here's how I plan on fixing it: Having two Historical sections,
Historical For Sale, Historical Wanted. Any ad going into either of
these sections must be primarily Historical or it will be deleted.
Sound good? I don't think splitting up the historical sections by era
will be necessary.
Currently, even mentioning the word historical gets you into the
historical ad section.
> 6/1/00 Josh <shlack311> This ad is completely F/SF
His ad is for Clan Wars. It's kindof a bastard halfbreed between
Fantasy and Historical. I don't consider it either so it was dumped
there. You're right though, it's probably in the wrong place.
> 6/2/00 Brian Franzman <glaaki> This ad is F/SF
"Russian micro armor, modern unpainted (T55, T80, BTR 70, BRDM,
BMP-recon, 5-ton trucks)
Combined Arms rulebook". But yeah, he should have started another ad.
> 6/2/00 Jim <jmuncy@> Three ads ! All F/SF
1: would be willing to trade for a Huge 15mm or 1/72 scale WWII armies.
2: I have a large collection of 15mm brits all are mounted and primed,
most have the coats and hats painted. What im looking for is 15mm or
1/48 scale or 1/35 scale WWII troops and vehicles to play eazy eights
battleground game.
3: I would consider a trade for 15mm WW2 troops and veh but only if it
is REALLY good trade for me.
> 6/3/00 Ludwig S. <wigg...@aol.com> Sci-Fi ad
have 40K marines to trade , Historical minis multiple erras. LMK and
lets make a deal
> 6/4/00 Perry Gelwasser <per...@aol.com> Two ads ! both have a
> few lines of historic and over 50 lines of F/SF listings.
(His ad has historical)
> 6/5/00 Scott Monsour <smon...@mindspring.com> 1 line of
> historical wants and 37 lines of F/SF for sale or trade.
>
> 6/6/00 Ronin Craftworks <ron...@dnai.com> Ad for a painting
> service.
They specialize in Historical.
> 6/6/00 Kim Brasington <kibr...@wyoming.com> All Fantasy
Will pay in cash, or will trade, having 15mm Historicals unpainted and
painted.
> 6/7/00 BC Hobbies Nothing listed at all. Just a big banner ad.
I know, I posted that ad. BC Hobbies got ripped off for $30,000 from
Indonesia (in several different orders, big credit card scam). They
haven't had time to post pretty ads lately.
> 6/8/00 Kevin <zer...@mailops.com> All Fantasy.
Will also consider trades for historical stuff and possibly Vor stuff
> 6/8/00 Battledress Studios <in...@battledress.co.uk> Ad for a
> painting service.
These guys rock. Good painting service.
> Since Adam indicated that he didn't currently have the time to look
> through the ads for x-posters, I thought I'd spend about 5 minutes.
I give it a once over every day. I admit I miss a lot.
> Also, I have to agree with the complaints about the search engine.
> Actually finding what you're looking for is much easier without it.
>
> I like Bartertown. I just stopped using it because of the F/SF
> crossposts clogging up the Historical section.
Need suggestions on how to fix it, I'll try almost anything once. (I'm
going to get badgered for saying that but oh well).
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Travis Price
want to concider the fact that I just looked up Hobbysplus on ebay and found
that they had also been kicked from e-bay and there auctions removed
including 2 of the "Cheap Warhammer Army Knock-offs".
Don't know why but it is definatly food for thought.
Semper Servus,
Travis Price
Zeroman
your
> web browser which is causing it to skip all of those ads with Warzone in
them.
Doesn't work for me either... If I search for 'Vor' or 'handy wipes' the
result is the same...
Z
Adam Tobia
Actually, I just found (a little bird told me) that if you use the keywords box
in the search by section, you get different results than if you use the front
page one. That is probably what the problem is.... (my fault)
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Travis Price
auctions have!
I'm not sure how this works but I would assume that it isn't a good thing.
Semper Servus,
Travis Price
"Travis Price" <chiv...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:XD905.7151$Md1.4...@news.flash.net...
> I don't mean to play hardball here as I think your site is great but you
may
> want to concider the fact that I just looked up Hobbysplus on ebay and
found
> that they had also been kicked from e-bay and there auctions removed
> including 2 of the "Cheap Warhammer Army Knock-offs".
>
> Don't know why but it is definatly food for thought.
>
> Semper Servus,
> Travis Price
>
Paul M. M. Jacobus
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Adam Tobia wrote:
> From what I understand, they have 3 or so people who live in the same
> area and are kids who consistently bid on their auctions (shipping is
> free, all they have to do is drop by). BC Hobby uses AOL, some of
> those kids do too, the overseers at eBay saw all the IPs coming from
> the same area, same ISP and kicked BC Hobby. BC Hobby tried to fix
> it, eBay won't respond.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
JD
El Diablito
I won an item from each of them. In both cases, I was sorely disapointed
with their behavior and their products. I felt ripped off and foolish for
being in my situation. Before I put any feedback on their auction items, I
wrote to them and discussed my perspective. In both cases, they did not
want to discuss anything, saying that it was a "buyer beware" environment
and that I was completely at fault. In one case, I was able to get my money
back, but only because I had to calm them down enough to understand that I
wasn't out for blood.
I specifically went out of my way to avoid their auction items from that day
on... I hope they get their act together, because I'll never shop with them
again.
"Kevin Marema" <kma...@umich.edu> wrote in message
news:3940EE51...@umich.edu...
> > IMHO, you shouldn't allow BC Hobby to post to Bartertown at all.
They're
> > untrustworthy, which is why EBay suspended their account (shill
bidding).
>
> That, and if you check out their website, they're charging US$59.00 for a
fucking Land Raider.
> BC Hobby sucks. Oh, and they limit you to only one! I think that's
called price gouging. Then
> again, they're in Battle Creek, Michigan so what do you expect?
>
TYGHOCK
I've bought, sold and traded on Bartertown, and I've had nothing but good luck
on what I've sent and received. Haven't dealt with BC Hobbies, mostly with
individuals.
I don't currently have issues with the layout in Bartertown, and my main
interest is historicals.
Maybe I've just been lucky so far.....
- TYGHOCK
If you're not part of the Conspiracy, you're part of the problem.
Adam Tobia
El Diablito,
You're talking in generalities son, give us specifics. What went wrong
exactly? what happened?
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
El Diablito
about the same time (that is, the first item ended around the time that I
bid on the second item). In one case the retailer did not say that their
item was almost like warhammer; They said it was a Warhammer item. Nothing
in the description said anything other than a Warhammer foot-soldier. When
I recieved the item, it was hardly anything from Games Workshop. I wrote to
them, I told them I was dissatisfied with the item and that I would like my
money back in exchange of the merchandise. They were immediately accusing
me of welching on the deal and that they already cashed my money order and
couldn't return my money (although their wording was hardly civil). I
explained to them that they implied that they were auctioning off Warhammer
items and directed them to their own description. After explaining that
they were falsely advertising their product, they took back the item and
sent me back my money. It was not so much the events that bothered me as
their attitude; Their complete lack of respect and hostile words towards me,
the purchaser.
So, realizing that the other Battle Creek store probably was selling the
same item. I wrote to the other auctioner. I explained my frustration with
the quality and the mis-representation of the first auction item and said
that I wasn't interested in simmilar merchandise. This other store was the
one who said that ebay and yahoo auctions are a "buyer beware" situations.
Humph... I simply never sent the money for that particular item.
Was I foolish? Possibly. Were the auction item descriptions
misleading? Most certainly. Since then, I simply remember to only bid on
items that have an exact description of the item (ala a part number) or have
a photo attached of the item in particular. I'm sure some people are
satisfied with their merchandise, but seeing how they react to a less than
enthusiastic response, I'm simply never going to do business with them again
(even if they do decide to auction off quality merchandise).
I didn't really want to go into the details, being that the first store
gave me my money back and was very rapid in shipping. But I thought I
should offer the warning about these two in particular and let everyone else
make the decisions for themselves.
El Diablito
"Adam Tobia" <barte...@bartertown.org> wrote in message
news:39416050...@bartertown.org...
Shim
expounded:
>Err..Wait...Strike That! Hobbysplus has not been kicked but all of there
>auctions have!
>
>I'm not sure how this works but I would assume that it isn't a good thing.
Believe me, eBay are a little silly about pulling auctions. Whilst they
apparently have seven hundred people lurking over the music sections to leap
bandsaw-first on any auctions for, say, radio promo CDs or what I consider
"ethically proper" bootlegs...
You direct 'em, with itemised points from the description and their AUP, to
an arrogant arsewipe who is directly intending to screw them out of a
notable sum of money by dodging commision and they ignore you, claiming it's
perfectly legal. Sorry, pet hate. And it's so damn hard to find those CDs...
-Shim.
Ducalguard
on now, so I guess the suspension is over. If you click on the feedback of a
seller and it comes up with a not a registered user next to the feedback,
they've been suspended...maybe for 30 days, maybe forever.
Doug
Mark Reindl
ZippoNiner wrote:
>
>
> So you deal with people getting upset about your crossposting by
> ratting them out...
> --
Getting upset and sending a polite suggestion to someone is one thing.
Now I didn't see the original post, but to me "Stop Harrassing Me" means
that more than one message has been sent, in which case I would think
it's perfectly appropriate to "rat someone out". I had one instance in
which I was the high bidder on an auction on Ebay (I only bid on the
item once). I won the auction, but it turned out that the auction was a
reserve auction (which I didn't see when I bid). The seller contacted
me to ask if I wanted the item for the reserve price, and I (very)
politely thanked him and explained that I didn't want to pay the reserve
price and had only bid because I didn't realize it was a reserve bid
auction. After that, I was the recipient of a string of messages in
which I was continually insulted and which became more and more verbally
abusive, until I reached the point where I emailed both Ebay and the
postmaster in charge of his account, which ended the threats, etc.
*really* fast. So in a case like that, I don't consider it "ratting
someone out", I'd consider it some putz getting what he/she deserves,
and it's much more satisfying than engaging in a pissing contest via
email :)
Mark
> ZippoNiner
Timothy Craig
> Hobby for abuse, I would DOUBLE whatever BC Hobby is paying you.
Ahhh... there we go. In the above paragraph you state that I'm strapped for
cash and I'm only keeping them because I'm money hungry then in the below
paragraph you tell me you'd pay me double and yet I won't let you,
contradiction?
Adam, I'm one of your biggest supporters, in fact I was sherriff Divinous
for a while and helped patrol the site for ridiculous cross posters, double
posters, and chatting. Now Bartertown is ripe with this kind of abuse. If
you go right now to the WHFB wanted: the third add which is just under mine,
is selling a large empire army, the fourth one is selling a huge brettonian
army, the sixth one is mostly selling orks, the sevent his looking for
MUSCLE figures, hte eight is a double post of the fourth,the ninth is a
necromunda wanted,. I could go further, but it's hard to surf because it
takes it so long to load. This is just one section only. Bartertown is
hurting, it used to be my favorite site fro warhammer, now, it's pretty bad,
not by your lack of inginuity, but the abuse that goes on, that you don't
delete. BTW living in MI, I would never shop at BS hobbies. Stopped by
there a few times, the store plain stinks. The employees are arroagnt, the
prices are sky high, and they fast talk everything, you walk out of there
thinking you got robbed whether you paid for something or not.
Paul Hoerner
>
> There's a lot here to sort through, I'll try and address it all, please remember
> that I'm not a BC Hobby employee (but I thought some people would like some
> answers).
>
> > Both shops are in Battle Creek Mich, Both sell the SAME exact
> > things, down to the "Cheap" Warhammer army knock-offs, and the "About me"
> > section on both is very similiar. Coincidence?
>
> Hobbysplus is owned by Rita (forgot her last name). It is entirely possible for
> Battle Creek Mich to have two hobby stores. But you might be right, who knows
> (not me). The reason why I know what I do is that Rita wants to advertise on my
> page (haven't gotten around to it yet).
Battle Creek has TWO hobby stores: BC Hobby and Discount Hobby.
Hobbysplus is nothing but a name that Rita uses to auction stuff.
Whether it's out of her house/garage/pickup (her words from her eBay
"me" information) or as a front for BC Hobby is each person's own
opinion.
Discount Hobby is run by a nice guy, is on the web and mail order's at a
10% discount. I know 10% isn't much by current web standards, but the
guy is polite to his customers and his website carries a lot of small
gaming companies products. The fact that he carries stuff from the
smaller companies which is typically very difficult to get, makes him
the kind of store I want to support, because he is a GAMERS hobbyshop
instead of the typical Games Workshop hobbyshop that many mail order
stores are.
>
> > Then this guy acts like a 2 year old when people on Bartertown got pissed
> > because he was x-posting the hell out of the site.
>
> We had a big long chat about that between myself and other peoples and BC Hobby
> has agreed to not cross-post the hell out of the site with big long ads. They
> have been very very good for the past couple of months and separate their ads
> out all nice and neat. Also please realize that there's 3 or 4 guys at the helm
> when it comes to BC Hobby, you might not be talking to Marcus.
If the person is polite, then you're not talking to Marcus.
>
> I say this but then I just posted an ad for them which blanketed the entire site
> (sorry about that) it's a link to all of their auction pages which have several
> auctions for every section to which they were posted. The reason for it was
> they haven't had the time lately to post stuff. A group of 20-30 cocksmokes in
> Indonesia bought Paintball stuff from him. If you've been checking the news
> lately, you might have heard about that Credit Card scam going on. The
> insurance/credit card company protects the person whose card gets stolen, it
> does not protect the person who takes the bogus card number so he lost $30,000
> (his cost, not the retail price). Several other stores have been caught in this
> scam and a couple have gone under because of it.
>
> It's just a page, it's even all yellow so it's easy to skip.
>
> I'm sure once the dust settles and they get back on their feet, they will post
> nicely again, as you can guess, they're a bit short on time and money.
If he's doing $2,000,000 a year in sales (a statement that he's posted
on Bartertown) how much can a $30,000 loss set him back?
>
> > When he runs an auction
> > he WAITS for you to leave feedback first, and he is the seller, that way if
> > you leave him a negative or neutral, even if he is totally at fault, he then
> > throws a tantrum and will leave you feedback in retaliation only.
>
> I don't blame him, I'm sure that is the same way I'd do it. Some buttwipe on
> Yahoo posted feedback the second he won the auction saying their customer
> service is horrible, the minis were late and damaged... he won the friggin
> auction like 5 minutes ago and he's posting bad feedback?? Do you think Yahoo
> gives a shiznit? Helll no. They didn't do anything (didn't take it down,
> didn't e-mail that person, notta).
> (Plus there's people like you, read on, who have admitted to doing this. You
> admit you're one of those people who he has to keep his guard up on and then you
> wonder why he has to do it ...)
The yahoo incident you mention is unfortunate, however that doesn't
change the fact that as soon as the seller receives his payment the
transaction is finished on his end and feedback should be entered. This
is what I do when I sell. Ebay isn't any better than Yahoo either on
working with revenge feedback.
>
> Read some of his feedback. Some of it is bad, some of it is good, he admits to
> screwing up most of the time.
>
> > Marcus Kings line with Bartertown is "I am a sponsor, so I can do whatever
> > the hell I want".
>
> He's changed that, see above (and my page he plays nice now).
>
> > Oh, and the funny thing, about 6 months ago I had a run in with Mr. King
> > over the Ebay feedback thing (I won an auction a day before he was
> > suspended, I then refused to pay for that auction, and then called him on
> > his feedback behavior), This guy acted like a child. Threats, even posting
> > on Bartertown to try and get my address and phone number.
> > Supposedly he is a millionare that has an army of lawyers that he will throw
> > down on you like the wrath of God if you call him on anything;) ( I strongly
> > stress supposedly;).
>
> Ok, let me get this straight. You win one of his auctions then you refuse to
> pay it, post negative and slanderous feedback about him and his business then
> you wonder why he gets ticked..... hmmm.... and you wonder why he waits until
> the other posts feedback first....
Mr. Perry was going to decline finishing an auction with someone who's
eBay account had just been suspended. By the eBay user agreement that
was within his rights.
[big snip]
-Paul
Paul Hoerner
goes into, do you have any software redirecting it? Let the user choose
the categories and if it's wrong you blame the user. Too many screwup
and you ban them. Or just limit the number of categories an add can be
placed in.
Don't get me wrong with any negativities against BT Adam. I love and
appreciate the site, but it seems less useful, and less used, than under
the old format (a year or so ago).
-Paul
Adam Tobia
> goes into, do you have any software redirecting it? Let the user choose
> the categories and if it's wrong you blame the user. Too many screwup
> and you ban them. Or just limit the number of categories an add can be
> placed in.
Storing user profiles is the task for a very intelligent programmer,
unfortunately, you've got me. Limiting the number of categories I don't think
will help, I think what will do it if I limit the number of For Sale
categories. You should have one For Sale Section per ad (then tons of wanted
sections for stuff you'll take)
This will limit the number of cross-posters (damnit).
> Don't get me wrong with any negativities against BT Adam.
Please feel free to critisize. It helps me a lot, I'm trying to design the
page to whatever you guys would like to see (well, anything except porn).
> I love and
> appreciate the site, but it seems less useful, and less used, than under
> the old format (a year or so ago).
Not according to the hit counter. It's gone up by about 300-400 hits a day.
The discussion sections where people are ranting and raving about some
intellectually stimulating GW and non-GW stuff are very interesting. More
than once I've bust out laughing and had my office mates look at me funny.
It's a lot better than "nurgle is kewl, I kan krush all da oomiez, slanneshs
si phanzee"
I'm working on some stuff right now to do the stuff we discussed, should be
done in a day or two.
-Trademaster Adam
Paul Hoerner
>
> > If, when the user creates the post they have to choose the sections it
> > goes into, do you have any software redirecting it? Let the user choose
> > the categories and if it's wrong you blame the user. Too many screwup
> > and you ban them. Or just limit the number of categories an add can be
> > placed in.
>
> Storing user profiles is the task for a very intelligent programmer,
> unfortunately, you've got me. Limiting the number of categories I don't think
> will help, I think what will do it if I limit the number of For Sale
> categories. You should have one For Sale Section per ad (then tons of wanted
> sections for stuff you'll take)
>
> This will limit the number of cross-posters (damnit).
You misunderstand me here. When you go to post a new add it comes up
with the form, at the top of which is the list where the poster chooses
which areas to post in. Unless I'm really missing something here, it
sounds likes you also have a program search the add for keywords and
post it to additional categories. Kill the program so it only gets
posted where the user has assigned.
>
> > Don't get me wrong with any negativities against BT Adam.
>
> Please feel free to critisize. It helps me a lot, I'm trying to design the
> page to whatever you guys would like to see (well, anything except porn).
>
> > I love and
> > appreciate the site, but it seems less useful, and less used, than under
> > the old format (a year or so ago).
>
> Not according to the hit counter. It's gone up by about 300-400 hits a day.
> The discussion sections where people are ranting and raving about some
> intellectually stimulating GW and non-GW stuff are very interesting. More
> than once I've bust out laughing and had my office mates look at me funny.
> It's a lot better than "nurgle is kewl, I kan krush all da oomiez, slanneshs
> si phanzee"
>
> I'm working on some stuff right now to do the stuff we discussed, should be
> done in a day or two.
That's great, and I do intend to check out the discussion sessions soon,
but I was specifically referring to the buy/sell/trade areas. I guess I
can only speak from my own experience but since the change I get
significantly less responses to adds I place, and I've had several
friends make the same comments.
-Paul
Adam Tobia
> with the form, at the top of which is the list where the poster chooses
> which areas to post in. Unless I'm really missing something here, it
> sounds likes you also have a program search the add for keywords and
> post it to additional categories. Kill the program so it only gets
> posted where the user has assigned.
Origionally, I was worried that the ad wouldn't be picked up. WebTV has some
communist browser which doesn't work well with forms. I fixed all that, changed the
posting and section searching section, added and deleted sections AND I got the
program so it only posts where you specify.
HOWEVER, it will take 2-3 weeks for new ads to be posted with the new system and the
ads to filter down/expire.
ALSO, I put in anti cross-posting code. You cannot post to more than one for sale
section in a single ad. If you post two ads back to back, that's easy to catch.
We'll see how this works out.
> That's great, and I do intend to check out the discussion sessions soon,
> but I was specifically referring to the buy/sell/trade areas. I guess I
> can only speak from my own experience but since the change I get
> significantly less responses to adds I place, and I've had several
> friends make the same comments.
They're fun. I never realized how much trouble GW stores can be whereas I thought I
was underpriveledged since I have only been to two GW stores and there are only
independant stores around.
-Trademaster Adam
www.bartertown.org
Insane Ranter
> > If, when the user creates the post they have to choose the sections it
> > goes into, do you have any software redirecting it? Let the user choose
> > the categories and if it's wrong you blame the user. Too many screwup
> > and you ban them. Or just limit the number of categories an add can be
> > placed in.
>
> Storing user profiles is the task for a very intelligent programmer,
> unfortunately, you've got me. Limiting the number of categories I don't think
> will help, I think what will do it if I limit the number of For Sale
> categories. You should have one For Sale Section per ad (then tons of wanted
> sections for stuff you'll take)
>
> This will limit the number of cross-posters (damnit).
>
> > Don't get me wrong with any negativities against BT Adam.
>
> Please feel free to critisize. It helps me a lot, I'm trying to design the
> page to whatever you guys would like to see (well, anything except porn).
>
PORNO PORNO PORNO!!
Brother Grimm
not just put a set of radio buttons on the
submission form that allows a poster to
select ONE and ONLY ONE category in
which to place the ad. Then with your new
one per week ad limit, that forces folks
to consider the category more carefully.
And a trades only category would help.
Then the section searches would get closer
to the desired, or expected result, while one
could always do a keyword search to find
all the occurances of "eldar".
Adam Tobia wrote in message <393FC1D1...@bartertown.org>...
>> >What the hell is up with Bartertown??? I can't believe it still isn't
fixed
>> >with all of these blanket ads in every category. I go in and am looking
at
>> >historicals, and behold what should pop up, hundreds of WHFB and 40K ads
in
>> >the historicals sections. Also hundreds of GW ads in the Big Robot and
RPG
>> >sections.
>> >Is this site ever going to be fixed? I would ask the Bartertown sponsors
out
>> >there to use your priviledge to contact Bartertown and get this cleared
up.
>> >I for one won't be browsing it again anytime soon.
>
>trade...@bartertown.org to contact the person in charge (me). My inbox
is
>empty, e-mail anytime.
>
>If you look at those ads, all of them (99%) have a reference to historical
>whether it is WHFB for trade for Historical or Historical for sale, 40k for
sale
>too.
>
>I think I might split the sections in two and not allow this, what do you
guys
>think? Not many Historical people are interested in WHFB.
>
>-Trademaster Adam
>
useles...@my-deja.com
annoyed me. I guess that the owners can not afford the time to scan for
offending ads (they don't seem to be making money on this...)
Until they DO start to do this though, I don't think I will ever use
the site (which is a shame). I guess it's kind of hard to enforce a ban
on blanket ads (seeing as most of the posters seem to not understand
the concept of "sections"). When I have used the site myself I have
always just posted "XXXXX for sale" (or WTB), "email for full list and
prices if interested". Two lines, easy to scan, and does the job. Maybe
Bartertown should use a similar format to lessen the "bumf" appearing
on screen.
Just a thought
Gonzo
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sorry guys
ChaosOrc
where every item has a header and then you click on that to read the post.
Trademaster Adam
Still working on that, the only problem with it is it's slow as butt.
-Trademaster Adam