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Jun 12, 2007, 1:57:17 PM6/12/07
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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/PEK134452.htm

China hospitals using "fake plasma" drip
11 Jun 2007 03:45:16 GMT
Source: Reuters
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BEIJING, June 11 (Reuters) - Eighteen big hospitals in northeastern
China have been using fake human albumin, or plasma protein, to treat
patients, state television reported in the latest food and medicine
scandal to hit the country.

In regular checks made by the food and drug administration in Jilin
province, seven of 36 batches of the albumin, fed into the bloodstream
by drip, contained zero protein.

"There was no protein component," Xu Fei, deputy chief of Jilin food
and drug inspection department, told China Central Television. "It
will not have the benefit it should have. We can say it is an
out-and-out fake product."

Experts said that use of the fake drip could put lives at risk for
those already seriously ill.

Eighteen hospitals and 39 drug trading companies were found to be
using the fake human albumin, which led to huge profits because of its
low production cost.

Some of the hospitals called by Reuters were not immediately available
for comment.

Billions of dollars worth of counterfeit and substandard goods, from
fake liquor and medicines to luxury handbags, are produced every year
in China.

In the most recent scandal, U.S. consumers were alarmed by a spate of
pet deaths blamed on tainted wheat gluten and rice protein exported
from China, as well as reports of toxins and disease in other Chinese
exports.

A Chinese-made medicine ingredient also killed at least 100 people in
Panama, according to a report in the New York Times.

In one of the most highly publicised scandals, China revealed in 2004
that at least 13 babies had died from malnutrition in the eastern
province of Anhui after being fed fake baby formula.

Nearly 200,000 people die each year in China from improper use of
legitimate drugs, according to Jin Shiming, a committee member of the
Guangdong Provincial Science and Technological Association.

Ezra

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Jun 12, 2007, 8:26:05 PM6/12/07
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> China hospitals using "fake plasma" drip
> 11 Jun 2007 03:45:16 GMT
> Source: Reuters


I don't think rec.games.go was setup to be a platform for your regular
China-bashing trolling.

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Jun 12, 2007, 9:23:53 PM6/12/07
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> "-" wrote:
>> for Apric-OTs only ...

Ezra <e...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> I don't think


" Never try to discourage thinking, for you are sure to succeed ! "
Bertrand Russell 1872 - 1970

> .. rec.games.go was setup ..


Unmoderated newsgroup, say many thankful readers.

> ...to be a platform for your regular China-bashing trolling.


Source of that -NEWS- article was Reuters. You'll need to
take up your case with Brits (who formerly -owned- Australia).
I don't suppose you have any compassion for people dying in
the Chinese Hospitals as a consequence of faked plasma drip.
I receive most spam email from China so they know all about it.


- regards
- jb

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Ezra

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Jun 13, 2007, 6:14:35 AM6/13/07
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> Source of that -NEWS- article was Reuters. You'll need to
> take up your case with Brits (who formerly -owned- Australia).
> I don't suppose you have any compassion for people dying in
> the Chinese Hospitals as a consequence of faked plasma drip.
> I receive most spam email from China so they know all about it.
>
>

you are making too many assumptions about me in your reply.
this NG is about Go and not plasma.
so who is your audience?
and by trolling like you are, who are you trying to convert?

and I'm quite sure that we have similar medical indiscretions practiced
in the West as well.
so why are you so China-phobic?


T Mark Hall

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Jun 13, 2007, 8:28:57 AM6/13/07
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In message <466fc389$0$32516$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>, Ezra
<e...@127.0.0.1> writes
The best way to deal with a troll is to put him in the kill-file
provided by most newsreaders and never try to argue, debate or discuss
with it. I use the term "it" because it has opted out of the human race
voluntarily, by its activities here and elsewhere.

Similarly, imitating the troll inflates its ego and does not deter it
from continuing to infest a newsgroup. However, if it knows that nobody
takes any notice of it, that is the best thing for deflating that ego.
Please don't feed the troll.

Best wishes.
--
T Mark Hall
Honorary Vice-president, British Go Association
http://www.gogod.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.gogod.co.uk/NewInGo/NewInGo.htm

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Jun 13, 2007, 3:18:45 PM6/13/07
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> Ezra <e...@127.0.0.1> writes

>> this NG is about Go and not plasma.


And this article to this NG was clearly marked with this OT.

>> so who is your audience?
>> and by trolling like you are, who are you trying to convert?


Sir, by replying to an OT posting, you are yourself the troll.

>> and I'm quite sure that we have similar medical indiscretions
>> practiced in the West as well.


Then document them. I cannot imagine a more crucial topic.

T Mark Hall <tm...@gogod.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> The best way to deal with a troll is to put him in the kill-file
> provided by most newsreaders and never try to argue, debate or
> discuss with it. I use the term "it" because it has opted out of the
> human race voluntarily, by its activities here and elsewhere.


Hilarious. British Reuters publishes a news article and then
it comes full circle back to "T Mark Hall" (also British last I checked)
who arrogates his high moral ground concerning origins of trolldom.
The article was clearly posted "OT" and "for Apric-OTs only" which
suffices for the requisite anti-troll leverage here.

Quite fortunate for them that Brits swagger around without a Second
Amendment, dishing out castrations and hysterectomies willy-nilly.


> Similarly, imitating the troll inflates its ego and does not deter it
> from continuing to infest a newsgroup. However, if it knows that
> nobody takes any notice of it, that is the best thing for deflating
> that ego. Please don't feed the troll.


Not about ego or anti-ago. It's about this truth, from _Reuters_.
Secondarily, it's about conscious & unconscious suppression of truth.

- regards
- jb

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Frank de Groot

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Jun 13, 2007, 4:19:28 PM6/13/07
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"T Mark Hall" <tm...@gogod.demon.co.uk> wrote

> Similarly, imitating the troll inflates its ego and does not deter it from

> continuing to infest a newsgroup. However, if it knows that nobody takes
> any notice of it, that is the best thing for deflating that ego.

> T Mark Hall


> Honorary Vice-president, British Go Association

There's only one with an overinflated ego here, and that's Mr. "I am the
Honorary Vice-President of the BGA" - sack-o-shit Hall.

Shamefull outfit, the BGA, by the way. Censorship is their middle name. No
wonder, with scum like yourself boasting to be their "Honorary
Vice-President".


Denis Feldmann

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Jun 13, 2007, 4:31:23 PM6/13/07
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Frank de Groot a écrit :

> "T Mark Hall" <tm...@gogod.demon.co.uk> wrote
>
>> Similarly, imitating the troll inflates its ego and does not deter it from
>> continuing to infest a newsgroup. However, if it knows that nobody takes
>> any notice of it, that is the best thing for deflating that ego.
>
>> T Mark Hall
>> Honorary Vice-president, British Go Association
>
> There's only one with an overinflated ego here,

Really? You underestimate yourself, Frank...

[rest of spam and slander cut]

Michael Alford

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Jun 13, 2007, 6:57:37 PM6/13/07
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5 and counting...

Chris Lawrence

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Jun 13, 2007, 8:26:36 PM6/13/07
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Ah, Mark's absolutely spot-on. Where attention goes, energy flows.

--
Chris

Denis Feldmann

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Jun 14, 2007, 1:12:25 AM6/14/07
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Chris Lawrence a écrit :
Well, I stopped paying attention to jb long ago. But I must admit Frank
has still some life in it...
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