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Terrence Brannon

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Sep 14, 2008, 4:54:57 AM9/14/08
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I was driving down the interstate. A car to the right of me had a
truck in front of me. Immediately I thought: she does not have a
liberty in front or to the left...

I imagine at the higher levels of Go, you start to see even more real-
life situations as Go concepts?

Chris Lawrence

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Sep 14, 2008, 11:50:10 AM9/14/08
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Terrence Brannon wrote:
> I imagine at the higher levels of Go, you start to see even more real-
> life situations as Go concepts?

I noticed this more and more as I played Go a lot. Work situations,
business decisions, personal problems, they all seemed to present
themselves like a game of Go. I had the fortune to meet Catalin Taranu
four years ago at a Go camp in Romania. I asked him if he also felt
that life started to appear like a game of Go. He said very much so,
and that he sees practically everything in that way and cannot help it!

Chris

Jeff Nowakowski

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Sep 14, 2008, 1:15:06 PM9/14/08
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Terrence Brannon wrote:
> I was driving down the interstate. A car to the right of me had a
> truck in front of me. Immediately I thought: she does not have a
> liberty in front or to the left...

Spending a lot of hours on something tends to do that, whether it's
Grand Theft Auto, chess, or Go.

> I imagine at the higher levels of Go, you start to see even more real-
> life situations as Go concepts?

Life is so much richer than a game of Go. In the other direction, Go is
full of details that have nothing to do with life in general.

-Jeff

Joachim Pimiskern

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Sep 15, 2008, 3:43:56 AM9/15/08
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"Terrence Brannon" <meta...@gmail.com> schrieb:

> I was driving down the interstate. A car to the right
> of me had a truck in front of me. Immediately I thought:
> she does not have a liberty in front or to the left...

That doesn't matter much as long as you're alive
and the car right of you has the same colour as your's.

> I imagine at the higher levels of Go, you start to see
> even more real-life situations as Go concepts?

Of course. For example, if I'm faced with charges,
I usually don't defend myself but instead launch a
counter-attack.

Regards,
Joachim


Aladdin & The Gangs

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Sep 15, 2008, 5:25:07 AM9/15/08
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"Terrence Brannon" <meta...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Go is a game of perfect information. Real life events are not perfect
information. And in any remote accuracy - with skepticism - that you could hope
for ours version of "perfect information" is from astrology. The reflection of
go into real life situations is just a metaphor. Any further manifestation than
that the person may needs psychiatry attention.

My best reflection of go into real-life would be a balanced ecological system -
you can definitely find examples for seki, ko, capturing races and L&D
situations. Go-Safari, anyone?

I play the "tree" in my safari. My seeds will dominate the field. I fear no
creature or element.


Terrence Brannon

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Sep 15, 2008, 3:25:51 PM9/15/08
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On Sep 15, 3:43 am, "Joachim Pimiskern" <JoachimPimisk...@web.de>
wrote:
> "Terrence Brannon" <metap...@gmail.com> schrieb:

>
> > I was driving down the interstate. A car to the right
> > of me had a truck in front of me. Immediately I thought:
> > she does not have a liberty in front or to the left...
>
> That doesn't matter much as long as you're alive
> and the car right of you has the same colour as your's.

You make a striking point: I saw her as an enemy - the opposite color!

Joel Olson

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Sep 15, 2008, 4:23:43 PM9/15/08
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"Joachim Pimiskern" <JoachimP...@web.de> wrote in message
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Hopefully, you did pass the truck?

KoKs

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Sep 17, 2008, 12:31:50 PM9/17/08
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On Sep 16, 6:23 am, "Joel Olson" <joel_ol...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Joachim Pimiskern" <JoachimPimisk...@web.de> wrote in message
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> > "Terrence Brannon" <metap...@gmail.com> schrieb:

> >> I was driving down the interstate. A car to the right
> >> of me had a truck in front of me. Immediately I thought:
> >> she does not have a liberty in front or to the left...
>
> > That doesn't matter much as long as you're alive
> > and the car right of you has the same colour as your's.
>
> >> I imagine at the higher levels of Go, you start to see
> >> even more real-life situations as Go concepts?
>
> > Of course. For example, if I'm faced with charges,
> > I usually don't defend myself but instead launch a
> > counter-attack.
>
> > Regards,
> > Joachim
>
> Hopefully, you did pass the truck?

Sure, he can "nobi" to the left! After all, if he did not pass the
truck then who'd had composed this thread?

ro...@telus.net

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Sep 17, 2008, 10:49:12 PM9/17/08
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I've sometimes thought about a life situation and unconsciously
thought of a parallel go situation involving similar strategic or
tactical issues. Common ones would be sente, aji, furikawari, miai,
oba, damezumari, korigatachi and sabaki. I've also sometimes been
unable to remember afterwards if I was thinking about the go situation
or the life situation.

-- Roy L

Aladdin & The Gangs

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Sep 18, 2008, 8:56:22 PM9/18/08
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<ro...@telus.net> wrote in message news:48d1975...@news.telus.net...

Be interesting to see tewari in those circumstances. They most probably do not
make sense in the life situation.


Denis Feldmann

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Sep 20, 2008, 12:49:26 PM9/20/08
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Aladdin & The Gangs a écrit :
Oh, but they do ; every time you think "if oonly I had phoned first",
say ... ;-)

Robby Goetschalckx

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Sep 22, 2008, 10:01:29 AM9/22/08
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Always hane at the head of two cars !

Aladdin & The Gangs

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Sep 22, 2008, 3:48:44 PM9/22/08
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"Robby Goetschalckx" <ro...@cs.kuleuven.ac.be> wrote in message
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Can a beetle match the strength of two trucks? Wait, but where are other
beetles???


Joel Olson

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Sep 24, 2008, 7:31:58 PM9/24/08
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"Robby Goetschalckx" <ro...@cs.kuleuven.ac.be> wrote in message
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otoh, hane at the head of two trucks may require different timing.


Francisco

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Sep 26, 2008, 1:55:05 PM9/26/08
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I once played a 7d and I felt like I had a heavy building above me.
Also a girlfriend once made me feel a big truck running me.

Go has the same basic instincts that life has: life, death and
territory. Go, however, can help you understand those concepts easily
(although some direct experience is always required).

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