KGS Announcement: Free Pro Lecture
William M. Shubert
Guo Juan (5 dan pro) will be giving a free English-language lecture on
KGS. Topics covered will include basics, shapes, and a review of a
game between amateur dan players. Players of all strengths are welcome
to attend!
This will use the KGS live audio system, so students will be able to
hear Guo Juan speak as she uses the KGS board to show the game and
other topics. Students will be able to answer Guo and ask questions by
typing in response.
This lecture is partly to show the possibilities of the KGS live audio
system, and also an attempt to test its limits! We hope to find out
how many audio streams KGS can support simultaneously. If we succeed
in reaching the limit that we can support for audio, we will turn off
the live audio system and switch to all text.
So please, come and get a free lecture from one of the best English
language go instructors, and help KGS find out the limits of its audio
system!
11AM US West Coast
2PM US East Coast
7PM England
8PM Western Europe
3AM (Monday Morning) Japan
dajava
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> This will use the KGS live audio system,
What is audio system?
Too difficult English for me.
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> So please, come and get a free lecture from one of the best English
> language go instructors, and help KGS find out the limits of its audio
> system!
>
I will ask a Korean friend of mine
to show up there to know of its quality
> 11AM US West Coast
> 2PM US East Coast
> 7PM England
> 8PM Western Europe
> 3AM (Monday Morning) Japan
Then it must be 3AM (Monday Morning) in Korea too
Both Japan and Korea use GMT + 9 time zone
And it must be 2AM (Monday Morning)in China
which uses GMT + 8
dajava,
Warp
> On Sunday, September 12, at 18:00 GMT (other time zones given below),
> 2PM US East Coast
> 7PM England
> 8PM Western Europe
> 3AM (Monday Morning) Japan
If IGS announcements did exactly this...
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> William M. Shubert <w...@igoweb.org> wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 12, at 18:00 GMT (other time zones given below),
>> 11AM US West Coast
>> 2PM US East Coast
>> 7PM England
>> 8PM Western Europe
>> 3AM (Monday Morning) Japan
Warp <wa...@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> If IGS announcements did exactly this...
Warp's remark is not topical to this Subject: line. I spoke with
Guo Juan on 21st August. I can assure you that Guo Juan can
calculate differences in time-zones. Perhaps KGS players cannot.
- regards
- jb
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Hans-Georg Michna
>What is audio system?
>Too difficult English for me.
http://www.helsinki.fi/~hkantola/dict.html
Hans-Georg
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No mail, please.
dajava
> > William M. Shubert <w...@igoweb.org> wrote:
> >> On Sunday, September 12, at 18:00 GMT (other time zones given below),
> >> 11AM US West Coast
> >> 2PM US East Coast
> >> 7PM England
> >> 8PM Western Europe
> >> 3AM (Monday Morning) Japan
>
> Warp <wa...@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> > If IGS announcements did exactly this...
>
>
> Warp's remark is not topical to this Subject: line. I spoke with
> Guo Juan on 21st August. I can assure you that Guo Juan can
> calculate differences in time-zones. Perhaps KGS players cannot.
>
>
She is in Holland as far as I know.
Do you live in Holland, not in New Mexico?
dajava,
Warp
> Warp's remark is not topical to this Subject: line. I spoke with
> Guo Juan on 21st August. I can assure you that Guo Juan can
> calculate differences in time-zones. Perhaps KGS players cannot.
What are you talking about? Have you lost your marbles, or something?
I was praising wms's announcement because it had a GMT time plus a clear
list of times at different timezones which help getting a clearer picture
of when the announced event will happen.
This is very unlike IGS announcements which only mention one time,
Korean time and does not give any idea of how much that is off in other
places.
Your response makes absolutely no sense.
-
> jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
>> ... with Guo Juan on 21st August.
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> How did you speak with her?
Look at the date and then research the name of Kipyo Hong
who is a very famous person in Korea these days.
"Warp" <wa...@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> What are you talking about? Have you lost your marbles, or something?
Sorry, I play using flattened Go Stones, not with marbles.
> I was praising wms's announcement because it had a GMT time plus
> a clear list of times at different timezones which help getting a clearer
> picture of when the announced event will happen.
Actually you uttered NO WORDS OF PRAISE, so you are lying.
> This is very unlike IGS announcements which only mention one time,
> Korean time and does not give any idea of how much that is off in
> other places.
IGS players are able to calculate time conversions, unlike KGS players.
> Your response makes absolutely no sense.
Perhaps you can tell me what is the next entry in Sloane's A052187 ...
http://www.research.att.com/cgi-bin/access.cgi/as/njas/sequences/eisA.cgi?Anum=A052187
- regards
- jb
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Warp
> Actually you uttered NO WORDS OF PRAISE, so you are lying.
If I say "if only everyone did like you..." am I not praising what
you are doing?
And calling people liars is not very polite.
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Warp <wa...@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> If I say "if only everyone did like you..." am I not praising what
> you are doing?
Not necessarily.
> And calling people liars is not very polite.
I did not call you a liar. I said that you were lying.
- regards
- jb
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dajava
> > jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
> >> ... with Guo Juan on 21st August.
>
> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> > How did you speak with her?
>
>
> Look at the date and then research the name of Kipyo Hong
> who is a very famous person in Korea these days.
>
>
Let me rephrase your sentence.
I mean, he maybe be 'a famous Korean player to Westerners.'
I did research the name of Kipyo Hong
and I 'd like to argue that I am a native Korean speaker
born and raised - living - in South Korea.
I have much more resources for the game of go
than Westerners do even when I am not a go player.
No comparisons at all! Seriously.
It is the same logic I was totally different from primitives in New Mexico.
Seoul was one of the largest cities in the world at the time
An opinion or a fact?
dajava,
tweet
> Let me rephrase your sentence.
> I mean, he maybe be 'a famous Korean player to Westerners.'
>
> I did research the name of Kipyo Hong
What was the result of the research you did?
> and I 'd like to argue that I am a native Korean speaker
> born and raised - living - in South Korea.
> I have much more resources for the game of go
> than Westerners do even when I am not a go player.
> No comparisons at all! Seriously.
>
> It is the same logic I was totally different from primitives in New Mexico.
Why did you study amongst the primitives in New Mexico?
Michael Alford
>>
>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>> > How did you speak with her?
>>
>>
>> Look at the date and then research the name of Kipyo Hong
>> who is a very famous person in Korea these days.
>>
>>
>
>Let me rephrase your sentence.
>I mean, he maybe be 'a famous Korean player to Westerners.'
>
>I did research the name of Kipyo Hong
>and I 'd like to argue that I am a native Korean speaker
>born and raised - living - in South Korea.
>I have much more resources for the game of go
>than Westerners do even when I am not a go player.
>No comparisons at all! Seriously.
Well... how about using these "resources"? Seriously. If you don't use
them, arguing that you have access to them is specious, especially in
the age of the Internet. So, what did your "research" turn up about
Kipyo Hong?
>
>It is the same logic I was totally different from primitives in New Mexico.
>Seoul was one of the largest cities in the world at the time
>An opinion or a fact?
Logic... you know, IGS hasn't been located in New Mexico for at least
a dozen or more years, and, to my knowledge, jb never lived there. I
am willing to grant that you are different from the natives in New
Mexico, but as an outsider I reserve the right to apply the term
"primitive" according to my own education. The fact that you could not
fit in due to your own preconceived racist opinions is seemingly not
open to debate. And you don't have fucking clue #1 as to what logic
really is, see http://intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/toc.php and get
back to us when your education has risen to a sufficient level as to
provide the rest of us a reason for listening to you.
>
>dajava,
Have a nice day,
Michael
dajava
> dajava wrote:
>
> > Let me rephrase your sentence.
> > I mean, he maybe be 'a famous Korean player to Westerners.'
> >
> > I did research the name of Kipyo Hong
>
> What was the result of the research you did?
>
>
> > and I 'd like to argue that I am a native Korean speaker
> > born and raised - living - in South Korea.
> > I have much more resources for the game of go
> > than Westerners do even when I am not a go player.
> > No comparisons at all! Seriously.
> >
> > It is the same logic I was totally different from primitives in New Mexico.
>
> Why did you study amongst the primitives in New Mexico?
>
From :
http://groups.google.co.kr/groups?
q=dajava+new+mexico&hl=ko&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&selm=3e0e78c2.0312181909.3ce4456%40posting.goo
gle.com&rnum=5
>
> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> > How come you got to have the idea of teaching at the 'junkyard in a desert?'
>
>
> Had you said that you were a -student- at the "junkyard in the desert"?
>
>
>
>
> - regards
> - jb
>
Yes, I was a graduate at the University of New Mexico. I was an
international student with F-1 visa (student visa) there. I had no
choice but to stay there for a while for some reasons in order to
maintain my visa status . And funny enough, people there were totally
misconceived that I was a poor, miserable guy from a primitive
society and living in Albuquerque was much better than living in
Seoul.
===========================================================
I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
For example, I needed transripts for my bachelor's degree from Korea
But, my family did not send me them.
I finally packed my stuffs with an airline ticket back to Korea
I was a registered student in New Mexico
But I always thougt I taught people - especially professors- there.
Academics were very poor there
And, professors did not even know what they said.
My friends - American and foreign- complained
"What kind of lecture was it today? Terrible!
Universities are just useless.
Forget it. professors need money and we need degrees. That is all"
Newspapers in Albuquerque featured several articles about poor quality
of education in New Mexico
especially as compared to those of Texas.
One of my American friends from University of California, Berkerly
stayed in New Mexico for one semester
and transferred to University of Texas, Austin
And a Chinese friend of my Chinese friends transferred to Texas A&M.
I heard that both liked their new universities
A funny thing about it was that I had known two professors from
Texas, Austin
and both were terrible. The worst kinds of professors I had met in the
States. hahaha!
The younger one laughted at the older one arguing that Texas, Austin
was not a good one when the former got his Ph.D
degree at Texas, Austin and it was a good evidence that he was no
good. But, in my understanding, both are more
less tha same.
Anderon school of management had only one Korean professor
He stayed there to get a green card (residential right in the USA)
He and I criticised among Korean community in New Mexico for some
reasons
but we had one thing in common : Academics were very poor there in New
Mexico
He complained, 'What kind of university is this? University like
this!"
He finally got a green card and got a teaching position in California
-probabably Santa Calara.
I met him right before he moved and he was very happy about his new
teaching position there :-)
dajava,
dajava
Official homepage of the city of Seoul
For New Mexico
A seperate homepage for the city of Albuquerque
I was not intereseted in New Mexico until late 1990's
One day, I got home when very old parents of mine were watching a TV
program about a Baloon Festival
I joined them and soon realized that it was about New Mexico including
the city of Albuquerque, the University of New Mexico, etc
I suddenly shouted, 'Wow, it is New Mexico where I lived. Didn't I
tell you that I lived in New Mexico?"
. And they yelled at me, 'Why don't you shout up? I simply can't
believe this
My son actually lived there? Look at those dirty houses. Look at those
primitives'
It was the evening since when my parents got to understand whever I
ignore primitives in New Mexico
dajava,
P.S.
racist? I had never used the vocabulary until I posted a message of
New Mexico.
Before that, I always argued that I was discrimited by primitives in
New Mexico.
What I got in New Mexico was a racism or a discrimination ?
I do not know.
-
>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>>> How come you got to have the idea of teaching at the 'junkyard in a desert?'
>> Had you said that you were a -student- at the "junkyard in the desert"?
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> Yes, I was a graduate at the University of New Mexico. I was an
> international student with F-1 visa (student visa) there. I had no
> choice but to stay there for a while for some reasons in order to
> maintain my visa status . And funny enough, people there were
> totally misconceived that I was a poor, miserable guy from a
> primitive society and living in Albuquerque was much better
> than living in Seoul.
>
> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
> For example, I needed transripts for my bachelor's degree from
> Korea But, my family did not send me them.
I do not understand this. Why was your family uncooperative?
Why not fly back to Korea on round-trip and get them yourself?
> I finally packed my stuffs with an airline ticket back to Korea
>
> I was a registered student in New Mexico
> But I always thougt I taught people - especially professors - there.
> Academics were very poor there
> And, professors did not even know what they said.
> My friends - American and foreign - complained
> "What kind of lecture was it today? Terrible!
> Universities are just useless.
> Forget it. professors need money and we need degrees. That is all"
Perhaps you were taking the wrong courses. What were they?
> Newspapers in Albuquerque featured several articles
> about poor quality of education in New Mexico
> especially as compared to those of Texas.
Why would newspapers of Albuquerque, NM encourage
students to move to Texas and move out of New Mexico?
> One of my American friends from University of California,
> Berkerly stayed in New Mexico for one semester
> and transferred to University of Texas, Austin
> And a Chinese friend of my Chinese friends transferred to
> Texas A&M. I heard that both liked their new universities
What were their areas of study, i.e. college "majors" ?
> A funny thing about it was that I had known two professors
> from Texas, Austin and both were terrible. The worst kinds
> of professors I had met in the States. hahaha! The younger
> one laughted at the older one arguing that Texas, Austin was
> not a good one when the former got his Ph.D degree at Texas,
> Austin and it was a good evidence that he was no good.
> But, in my understanding, both are more less tha same.
Seems to contradict your assertion that Texas has better academics.
> Anderon school of management had only one Korean professor
> He stayed there to get a green card (residential right in the USA)
> He and I criticised among Korean community in New Mexico for
> some reasons but we had one thing in common : Academics
> were very poor there in New Mexico
Maybe you neglected to visit Roswell, NM & Alamagordo, NM ?
> He complained, 'What kind of university is this? University like this!"
> He finally got a green card and got a teaching position in California
> -probabably Santa Calara. I met him right before he moved and he
> was very happy about his new teaching position there :-)
Was your idea to be happy about teaching or to evaluate teachers
according to the student progress, performance & achievement?
- regards
- jb
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daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> I was not intereseted in New Mexico until late 1990's
> One day, I got home when very old parents of mine were
> I joined them and soon realized that it was about New Mexico
> including the city of Albuquerque, the University of New Mexico, etc
>
> I suddenly shouted, 'Wow, it is New Mexico where I lived. Didn't I
> tell you that I lived in New Mexico?" . And they yelled at me, 'Why
> don't you shout up? I simply can't believe this My son actually lived
> there? Look at those dirty houses. Look at those primitives'
They live that way because they don't want to be invaded
by Koreans. Your parents want you to stay in Korea, as well ...
> It was the evening since when my parents got to understand
> whever I ignore primitives in New Mexico
They're sufficiently advanced to know what Koreans don't like.
> P.S.
> racist? I had never used the vocabulary until I posted a message
> of New Mexico. Before that, I always argued that I was discrimited
> by primitives in New Mexico. What I got in New Mexico was a
> racism or a discrimination ? I do not know.
You said that your family would not send you the transcripts
so that you could "make your way" within the USA. Evidently,
your family is very suspicious about breaking up Korean tribalism.
- regards
- jb
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dajava
> >> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> >>> How come you got to have the idea of teaching at the 'junkyard in a desert?'
>
> >> Had you said that you were a -student- at the "junkyard in the desert"?
>
> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> > Yes, I was a graduate at the University of New Mexico. I was an
> > international student with F-1 visa (student visa) there. I had no
> > choice but to stay there for a while for some reasons in order to
> > maintain my visa status . And funny enough, people there were
> > totally misconceived that I was a poor, miserable guy from a
> > primitive society and living in Albuquerque was much better
> > than living in Seoul.
> >
> > ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
> > For example, I needed transripts for my bachelor's degree from
> > Korea But, my family did not send me them.
>
>
> I do not understand this. Why was your family uncooperative?
> Why not fly back to Korea on round-trip and get them yourself?
>
>
jb, I do not know of your background
But let me tell you that this is a nonsence conversation
if you not know of Business Administration
All the cources, friends of mine and professors I mentioned were
Business people.
I previously wrote that I was a business major both in South Korea
and in the USA.
As for William the chief administrator of KGS, I just guess that he
majored Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University. I previously
wrote that professors from the university I met in the USA were awful.
Again, none of them were science/engineering people.
dajava,
dajava
> >> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> >>> How come you got to have the idea of teaching at the 'junkyard in a desert?'
>
>
>
>
> > A funny thing about it was that I had known two professors
> > from Texas, Austin and both were terrible. The worst kinds
> > of professors I had met in the States. hahaha! The younger
> > one laughted at the older one arguing that Texas, Austin was
> > not a good one when the former got his Ph.D degree at Texas,
> > Austin and it was a good evidence that he was no good.
> > But, in my understanding, both are more less tha same.
>
>
> Seems to contradict your assertion that Texas has better academics.
>
>
Why?
5 k is stronger than 7 k
But 1 k is stronger that 5k
Why is it contradictory to you?
Texas, Austin maybe be better than the University of New Mexico
But, I am Korean not American
By the way, what is the definition of American?
He was from India as a graduage student to Texas, Austin
About half the professors with whom I disputed were not what people
call Americans - White people born and raised in the USA-
though I do not tell you of thier ethnic orgins
Let me just tell you that two of them were from middle east as
internationl students. They had to learn that who the boss was. As a
Korean from Seoul,
I was not a person who wanted to stand when they mistreated me.
dajava,
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>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>>> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
>>> For example, I needed transripts for my bachelor's degree
>>> from Korea But, my family did not send me them.
> jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
>> I do not understand this. Why was your family uncooperative?
>> Why not fly back to Korea on round-trip and get them yourself?
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> jb, I do not know of your background
> But let me tell you that this is a nonsence conversation
> if you not know of Business Administration
It could be a nonsense conversation even for people who
do know about Business Administration. Your usage of "know"
seems to be a core difficulty. Philosophically, what is "known"
is that which can be established by a Court of Law. Among the
people, we have cases only of "experience" & "expert opinion."
Yet, once she is pregnant, then she cannot be half-pregnant.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> All the cources, friends of mine and professors I mentioned
> were Business people. I previously wrote that I was a business
> major both in South Korea and in the USA.
You did not previously mention that all of your courses were
those of Business. For example, you are also a Go Player and
that does not seem to be very much related to Business, unless
you can manage to make the Playing of Go into some Business.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> As for William the chief administrator of KGS, I just guess that
> he majored Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University.
I do not recall that the degree program for `wms' was a topic under
discussion on the table of issues for -recommended- controversy.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> I previously wrote that professors from the university I met in the USA
> were awful. Again, none of them were science/engineering people.
Could this be -due- to your focus on the Business Major, and
that you say you did not take any courses in science or engineering?
>> "dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote in message
>>> A funny thing about it was that I had known two professors
>>> from Texas, Austin and both were terrible. The worst kinds
>>> of professors I had met in the States. hahaha! The younger
>>> one laughted at the older one arguing that Texas, Austin was
>>> not a good one when the former got his Ph.D degree at Texas,
>>> Austin and it was a good evidence that he was no good.
>>> But, in my understanding, both are more less tha same.
> jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
>> Seems to contradict your assertion that Texas has better academics.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> Why?
> 5 k is stronger than 7 k
> But 1 k is stronger that 5k
>
> Why is it contradictory to you?
Can you find some citations in the literature of American
Education that rates "academics" by usage of kyu or dan rating?
It is not fair to judge "academics" in the USA by standards that
they do not themselves abide by, nor devote energy to strive at.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> Texas, Austin maybe be better than the University of New Mexico
> But, I am Korean not American
>
> By the way, what is the definition of American?
Americans are disagreeing about the "definition of American" as
we speak, e.g. election season in progress with massive polarization.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> He was from India as a graduage student to Texas, Austin
>
> About half the professors with whom I disputed were not what
> people call Americans - White people born and raised in the USA-
> though I do not tell you of thier ethnic orgins
>
> Let me just tell you that two of them were from middle east as
> internationl students. They had to learn that who the boss was.
> As a Korean from Seoul,
> I was not a person who wanted to stand when they mistreated me.
If you ask somebody what they can recall about Thomas Jefferson,
Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Samuel Adams, John Adams,
Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Edison, Mark Twain, Theodore Roosevelt,
etc., then you can gain a better idea of whether they are "American."
On the other hand, ask them what they know about "Native Americans"
such as the people whom you call primitives but now operate casinos.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> My translation from very limited Korean information on him :
>
> For World Youth Goe Tournament 2004,
> Kipyo Hong (15 years old, insei working toward Pro baduk player
> and the 3rd grade of Chuna-am middle shcool) got
> the second place for World Juvenile Baduk championship,
> Senior section. Ku, Ring-in from China got the championship
Well, the point being that Kipyo Hong would have won the last
game in finals if they used Japanese scoring rather than Ing Scoring.
- regards
- jb
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dajava
> >> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> >>> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
>
>
>
>
> > He was from India as a graduage student to Texas, Austin
> >
> > About half the professors with whom I disputed were not what
> > people call Americans - White people born and raised in the USA-
> > though I do not tell you of thier ethnic orgins
> >
> > Let me just tell you that two of them were from middle east as
> > internationl students. They had to learn that who the boss was.
> > As a Korean from Seoul,
> > I was not a person who wanted to stand when they mistreated me.
>
>
> If you ask somebody what they can recall about Thomas Jefferson,
> Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Samuel Adams, John Adams,
> Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Edison, Mark Twain, Theodore Roosevelt,
> etc., then you can gain a better idea of whether they are "American."
> On the other hand, ask them what they know about "Native Americans"
> such as the people whom you call primitives but now operate casinos.
>
>
jb, let me get this straight.
As a Mongoloid myself, I never spoke bad of Native Americans
(=American Indians) and the group I described as "primitives' are
White people like Angol-XXon,
I usually got along with Asian people in New Mexico I assure you
Are yopu a French-descendant, by the way?
No, then Spanish?
Help me with vocabulary.
Does 'Cocasian' mean White people like British, German, French, etc.
Then Cocasian in New Mexico are promitives in New Mexico. OK?
How about Russian?
Its Dean laughted at me loudly when I visit his office to file
compalints that I am discrimated by primitives in New Mexico.
Well, he was from Carnegie Mellon University.
Could you all the university to know its Business Schoo has a formal
course where it teachs how to insult an international students as a
favor to me?
Or William Shulrt must have some idea of it Business School circuliam-
fomal , informan, or secret for the matter. Do its faculty and
students are KKK members?
dajava,
-
> jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
>> If you ask somebody what they can recall about Thomas Jefferson,
>> Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Samuel Adams, John Adams,
>> Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Edison, Mark Twain, Theodore Roosevelt,
>> etc., then you can gain a better idea of whether they are "American."
>> On the other hand, ask them what they know about "Native Americans"
>> such as the people whom you call primitives but now operate casinos.
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> jb, let me get this straight.
> As a Mongoloid myself, I never spoke bad of Native Americans
> (=American Indians) and the group I described as "primitives' are
> White people like Angol-XXon,
The "founding fathers" I have identified are `primitives' to the
present nation of the United States of America.
> I usually got along with Asian people in New Mexico I assure you
Native Americans are rather amused when Asians call them Asian.
> Are yopu a French-descendant, by the way? No, then Spanish?
> ... Help me with vocabulary.
> Does 'Cocasian' mean White people like British, German, French, etc.
> Then Cocasian in New Mexico are promitives in New Mexico. OK?
> How about Russian?
Are there any correct answers to your questions?
> Its Dean laughted at me loudly when I visit his office to file
> compalints that I am discrimated by primitives in New Mexico.
If you were to claim discrimination by "primitives" I'd say you
have already started off on the wrong foot by calling them that.
> Well, he was from Carnegie Mellon University.
> Could you all the university to know its Business Schoo has a
> formal course where it teachs how to insult an international
> students as a favor to me?
What do you mean by using the term "primitives" ? You
have already stated that your family does not think highly of
the way some "primitives" live. Yet does Korea offer invitation
to those "primitives" to come and live in Korea? Where?
> Or William Shulrt must have some idea of it Business School
> circuliam-fomal , informan, or secret for the matter. Do its faculty
> and students are KKK members?
Every 25 seconds an illegal immigrant crosses the USA
border. This on top of the fact that the USA accepts more
immigrants, and rate of immigration, than any other country.
- regards
- jb
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dajava
> >> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> >>> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
From http://www.cabq.gov/planning/statistics/census.html:
1970 1980 1990 2000
White* 96% 81% 78% 75%
Black* 2% 3% 3% 4%
American Indian* 1% 2% 3% 5%
Asian* N/A 1% 2% 3%
Other* N/A 13% 14% 18%
See, its major population were White people
when I dispised them as primitives.
dajava,
-
>>>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>>>>> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
You're saying that you -cannot- return, to attend schools
in Texas or California? Or that you do not -wish- to return?
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> From http://www.cabq.gov/planning/statistics/census.html:
>
> 1970 1980 1990 2000
> White* 96% 81% 78% 75%
> Black* 2% 3% 3% 4%
> American Indian* 1% 2% 3% 5%
> Asian* N/A 1% 2% 3%
> Other* N/A 13% 14% 18%
>
> See, its major population were White people
> when I dispised them as primitives.
Perhaps you might have been more comfortable in the "New
Mexico" of 1750, or the "New Mexico" of 1565 ? I have been to
South Korea: at Taegu, Suwon, Camp Casey, Camp Redcloud,
Seoul, Pusan, Inchon, etc., yet -nowhere- did I find people with
clipboards keeping track of those "ethnic stratification" statistics.
Having become disgusted with racism at a very early age in life,
I became -persuaded- that human beings were heading for the
Armageddon Hell of Biblical Proportions and that sterilization of
this species would be the only answer (at least for the interim).
- regards
- jb
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ADL COMMENTS ON DEATH OF BUTLER
ADL GLOATS OVER DEATH OF OTHER WN LEADERS
"But Butler left no heir apparent and Potok expects the group
will eventually fade away. Butler's death and the 2002 death of
William Pierce of the neo-Nazi National Alliance likely signal the
end of the large, centrally organized and at least partially
disciplined white supremacist groups, Potok said."
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Patrick G. Bridges
> jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote in message news:<4145121f...@news.individual.net>...
> > >> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> > >>> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
>
>
> From http://www.cabq.gov/planning/statistics/census.html:
>
> 1970 1980 1990 2000
> White* 96% 81% 78% 75%
> Black* 2% 3% 3% 4%
> American Indian* 1% 2% 3% 5%
> Asian* N/A 1% 2% 3%
> Other* N/A 13% 14% 18%
For the record, "white" here includes a large number of hispanics who
are generally ethnically classified as caucasian.
-Patrick, from New Mexico
--
-Patrick Bridges bri...@cs.unm.edu GPG Key ID = CB074C71
GPG Key fingerprint = FEEA ECFF 1E23 148C 2804 FDD9 DB63 6993 CB07 4C71
dajava
> >>>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> >>>>> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
>
>
> You're saying that you -cannot- return, to attend schools
> in Texas or California? Or that you do not -wish- to return?
>
>
Didn't I write that I went to State University of New York?
I was not interested in schools in Texas or California
NYU (New York University) was my favorate number one.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Perhaps you might have been more comfortable in the "New
> Mexico" of 1750, or the "New Mexico" of 1565 ? I have been to
> South Korea: at Taegu, Suwon, Camp Casey, Camp Redcloud,
> Seoul, Pusan, Inchon, etc.,
I did not know that you have been to Seoul
Please, visit Albuquerque in New Mexico wasting your own money
to post a message whether a Seolite like me is more than qualified to
despise White primitives in New Mexico.
dajava,
-
>>>>>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>>>>>>> ... I deseperately tried to get out of New Mexico in vain
> jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
>> You're saying that you -cannot- return, to attend schools
>> in Texas or California? Or that you do not -wish- to return?
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> I once wrote that I was semi-New Yorker who lived in New York
> Didn't I write that I went to State University of New York?
> I was not interested in schools in Texas or California
> ... NYU (New York University) was my favorate number one.
After your comparing of New Mexico and Texas, I got confused
about your preferances. Since you now went to State University
of New York, it was not necessary to be trapped in New Mexico.
>> Perhaps you might have been more comfortable in the "New
>> Mexico" of 1750, or the "New Mexico" of 1565 ? I have been to
>> South Korea: at Taegu, Suwon, Camp Casey, Camp Redcloud,
>> Seoul, Pusan, Inchon, etc.,
> I did not know that you have been to Seoul
> Please, visit Albuquerque in New Mexico wasting your own
> money to post a message whether a Seolite like me is more
> than qualified to despise White primitives in New Mexico.
I'm not very knowledgeable about what distinguishes "whites"
from "White primitives" generally. However I can speak toward
issues of despising, since I believe that "contempt" is an unhealthy
emotion. I wonder if _Aesthetic_Realism_ by Eli Siegal has been
translated into Korean, or if you can find an English copy in Seoul.
- regards
- jb
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dajava
Are you trying to joke with me or what?
White primitives should have learned how to respect a civilized yellow
monkey like me. OK?
What is your background, by the way?
I thought that you were one of techinicians called Computer
Science/Engineering majors.
Business majors including me tend to ignore those kinds of idiots.
I mean, we had diffrent classes in the end.
dajava,
-
Just trying to obtain the facts.
> White primitives should have learned how to respect
> a civilized yellow monkey like me. OK?
I don't respect civilized yellow monkeys, however I do
respect the people of Korea, and all peoples generally.
> What is your background, by the way?
My internet background is available via "google" search,
apprently, and has been the object of much obsession by the
highly esteemed -Doctor- Charles Matthews, Mathematics.
> I thought that you were one of techinicians called Computer
> Science/Engineering majors.
Nope, I attended the College of Life, majoring in freedom.
> Business majors including me tend to ignore those kinds
> of idiots. I mean, we had diffrent classes in the end.
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education."
- Mark Twain
- regards
- jb
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dajava
> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> > Are you trying to joke with me or what?
>
>
> Just trying to obtain the facts.
>
>
>
>
> > White primitives should have learned how to respect
> > a civilized yellow monkey like me. OK?
>
>
> I don't respect civilized yellow monkeys, however I do
> respect the people of Korea, and all peoples generally.
>
>
>
>
> > What is your background, by the way?
>
>
> My internet background is available via "google" search,
> apprently, and has been the object of much obsession by the
> highly esteemed -Doctor- Charles Matthews, Mathematics.
>
>
Do you mean that Charles Matthews is a Doctor of Mathematics.
I thought that he was a bum.
>
>
> > I thought that you were one of techinicians called Computer
> > Science/Engineering majors.
>
>
> Nope, I attended the College of Life, majoring in freedom.
>
Do you mean that you are a typical White primitive in the USA?
By the way, tell me the reason why you were thingk of American Indians
when I laughted at primitives in New Mexico?
I was talking about White primitives like Patrick G. Bridges.
>
>
>
> > Business majors including me tend to ignore those kinds
> > of idiots. I mean, we had diffrent classes in the end.
>
>
> "I never let my schooling interfere with my education."
> - Mark Twain
>
>
>
>
> - regards
> - jb
>
dajava,
-
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> ... Do you mean that Charles Matthews is a Doctor of Mathematics.
> I thought that he was a bum.
Well ... he could be both, however he has studied number theory.
> Do you mean that you are a typical White primitive in the USA?
You have not been defining the phrase "White primitive", nor
offering examples, so I don't yet know how to answer your question.
> By the way, tell me the reason why you were thingk of American
> Indians when I laughted at primitives in New Mexico?
Native Americans had -priority- on these continents before
the European Colonizers arrived. They are "primitive" to what
later became "subsequent developments." They suffered from
"cultural impairments" (as well as military inferiority) in the sense
that European Colonizers had overwhelmed them. You might
romanticize the Native American all you wish, however over time
even as they can choose their destiny, assimilation is occurring.
Many years ago I posted to the USENET some articles about the
plight of Native Americans, which were later picked up and placed
onto webpages as an archival formality. A Native American museum
has opened recently in Washington, D.C., though with ambivalence:
liked because it has some of their stuff but also hated because it
has some of their stuff.
> I was talking about White primitives like Patrick G. Bridges.
Mr. Bridges has been fairminded, once he got over himself.
Perhaps he will manage to improve the quality of education in NM.
- regards
- jb
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Radio Problems Ground Many Flights in California
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/281833|top|09-14-2004::23:46|reuters.html
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Denis Feldmann
> jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote in message
> news:<41475d44....@news.individual.net>...
>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>>> Are you trying to joke with me or what?
>>
>>
>> Just trying to obtain the facts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> White primitives should have learned how to respect
>>> a civilized yellow monkey like me. OK?
>>
>>
>> I don't respect civilized yellow monkeys, however I do
>> respect the people of Korea, and all peoples generally.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> What is your background, by the way?
>>
>>
>> My internet background is available via "google" search,
>> apprently, and has been the object of much obsession by the
>> highly esteemed -Doctor- Charles Matthews, Mathematics.
>>
>>
>
> Do you mean that Charles Matthews is a Doctor of Mathematics.
> I thought that he was a bum.
It is pure joy watching you exchanging learned and civilized opinions with
jb. Please do not stop.
dajava
> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> > ... Do you mean that Charles Matthews is a Doctor of Mathematics.
> > I thought that he was a bum.
>
>
> Well ... he could be both, however he has studied number theory.
>
>
>
>
> > Do you mean that you are a typical White primitive in the USA?
>
>
> You have not been defining the phrase "White primitive", nor
> offering examples, so I don't yet know how to answer your question.
>
>
>
Do you want an example or emamples?
visit
White babarians like Hellen Muller were totally misconceived that they
are superior to Asians like me
simple because they are White and I am Yellow
and argued that they wanted to help miserable people like me
They had to learn who the boss was.
I was much more civilized than they were
>
> > By the way, tell me the reason why you were thingk of American
> > Indians when I laughted at primitives in New Mexico?
>
>
> Native Americans had -priority- on these continents before
> the European Colonizers arrived. They are "primitive" to what
> later became "subsequent developments." They suffered from
> "cultural impairments" (as well as military inferiority) in the sense
> that European Colonizers had overwhelmed them. You might
> romanticize the Native American all you wish, however over time
> even as they can choose their destiny, assimilation is occurring.
> Many years ago I posted to the USENET some articles about the
> plight of Native Americans, which were later picked up and placed
> onto webpages as an archival formality. A Native American museum
> has opened recently in Washington, D.C., though with ambivalence:
> liked because it has some of their stuff but also hated because it
> has some of their stuff.
>
>
I want to change all the 'primitives' to 'babarians' in my previous
messages
to reduce some confusions.
Therefore, I 'd like to write, "A civilized yellow monkey is more than
qulaified to look down upon White babarian"
>
>
> > I was talking about White primitives like Patrick G. Bridges.
>
>
> Mr. Bridges has been fairminded, once he got over himself.
> Perhaps he will manage to improve the quality of education in NM.
>
>
I don't buy that.
His credentials are just ignorable
I visited his homepage before
to order to know of his educational backgrounds
He is just a White babarian from a Korean's point of view.
Be sure to remember that I am a Seoulite and a former semi New Yorker
dajava
> dajava wrote:
> > jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote in message
> > news:<41475d44....@news.individual.net>...
> >> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> >>> Are you trying to joke with me or what?
> >>
> >>
> >> Just trying to obtain the facts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> White primitives should have learned how to respect
> >>> a civilized yellow monkey like me. OK?
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't respect civilized yellow monkeys, however I do
> >> respect the people of Korea, and all peoples generally.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> What is your background, by the way?
> >>
> >>
> >> My internet background is available via "google" search,
> >> apprently, and has been the object of much obsession by the
> >> highly esteemed -Doctor- Charles Matthews, Mathematics.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Do you mean that Charles Matthews is a Doctor of Mathematics.
> > I thought that he was a bum.
>
> It is pure joy watching you exchanging learned and civilized opinions with
> jb. Please do not stop.
>
> >
Thanks!
By the way, do you understand this lousy English of mine?
Charles's friend once told me that Charles does not have a job
but his wife, as a patent lawyer, supports him with good incomes.
dajava,
ian
> > jazze...@hotmail.com (-) wrote in message
> > news:<41475d44....@news.individual.net>...
> >> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> >>> Are you trying to joke with me or what?
> >>
> >>
> >> Just trying to obtain the facts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> White primitives should have learned how to respect
> >>> a civilized yellow monkey like me. OK?
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't respect civilized yellow monkeys, however I do
> >> respect the people of Korea, and all peoples generally.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> What is your background, by the way?
> >>
> >>
> >> My internet background is available via "google" search,
> >> apprently, and has been the object of much obsession by the
> >> highly esteemed -Doctor- Charles Matthews, Mathematics.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Do you mean that Charles Matthews is a Doctor of Mathematics.
> > I thought that he was a bum.
>
> It is pure joy watching you exchanging learned and civilized opinions with
> jb. Please do not stop.
Denis,
I have written a program that will simulate these conversations. It is
available as shareware for just $5, please email me if you are
interested.
-
>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>>> Do you mean that you are a typical White primitive in the USA?
> "-" wrote:
>> You have not been defining the phrase "White primitive", nor
>> offering examples, so I don't yet know how to answer your question.
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> Do you want an example or emamples? ... White babarians like
> Hellen Muller were totally misconceived that they are superior to Asians
> like me simple because they are White and I am Yellow and argued
> that they wanted to help miserable people like me
> They had to learn who the boss was.
The website you suggest is objectionable appears at:
http://www.unm.edu/~hmuller/ . The core of this difficulty seems
to be "feminism" vs. "anti-feminism." I'm guessing that you have
misread what is actually an issue of sexism as one of racism.
Perhaps certain cultural differences of East and West, on matters
of sex equality, are at the forefront. Bear in mind also, that the
Asian women we meet, who have "escaped" Asian countries
for life in America, also tend to be "feminists" who speak with
negative undertones, concerning behavior of some Asian men.
And I suppose that you can find American women who have
"escaped" America, to find what they are seeking for in Asia.
It's a very good question who is the boss, among that "battle
of the sexes." I am rather persuaded, however, that more than
95% of the time she must win the arguments, to keep a marriage.
As for answering your question, posed earlier, I am not a
"feminist" nor have I ever been one (really now, how could I be?)
nor do I agree with much of what passes for liberal "feminist"
politics. Nevertheless, she should still be awarded 95% or more
of any arguments that occur within the household. QED.
Otherwise they could easily waste an entire life in misery.
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> I was much more civilized than they were
And, by "civilized" you mean how well that society treats its
unfortunates, i.e. the prisoners, the infirm, elderly, weaker sex,
handicapped, children, future generations, etc. etc. etc. ?
> I want to change all the 'primitives' to 'babarians' in my previous
> messages to reduce some confusions.
> Therefore, I 'd like to write, "A civilized yellow monkey is more
> than qulaified to look down upon White babarian"
In history, however, "barbarians" were simply those invaders
who came from a certain region of the planet. Being also that they
were conquerers it's a conundrum to assume they were uncivilized.
>> Mr. Bridges has been fairminded, once he got over himself.
>> Perhaps he will manage to improve the quality of education in NM.
> I don't buy that.
> His credentials are just ignorable
> I visited his homepage before
> to order to know of his educational backgrounds
> He is just a White babarian from a Korean's point of view.
Yet "the map is not the territory" so I'm uncertain whether you
can judge a book by its cover, nor whether you can evaluate an
individual by visiting their webpage.
> Be sure to remember that I am a Seoulite and a former semi New Yorker
This indicated to me your preferance for large metropolitan centers.
- regards
- jb
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http://www.bushwatch.com/
Bush Talks, Journalists Snicker
It didn't sound like a hard question. After George W. Bush delivered a
tepidly received address to a convention of minority journalists, a
Native-American editor from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer asked,
"What do you think tribal sovereignty means in the 21st century?" As
president and a former governor, the journalist said, Bush had a
"unique experience, looking at [the issue] from two perspectives." The
president fumbled. "Tribal sovereignty means that-it's sovereignty,"
he stammered. "I mean, you're a-you're a-you've been given sovereignty
and you're viewed as a sovereign entity." As Bush rambled, looking
like a schoolboy unprepared at the front of the class, many of the
hundreds of Asian, black, Native American and Hispanic journalists
gathered before him...well, snickered.
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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5633644/site/newsweek/
Disunity: Bush rambled where Kerry played to his base
A Tale of Two Candidates
Both Bush and Kerry addressed minority journalists this week.
Guess who did better?
WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Marcus Mabry
Newsweek
Updated: 12:31 p.m. ET Aug. 7, 2004Aug. 7 - It didn't sound like a
hard question. After George W. Bush delivered a tepidly received
address to a convention of minority journalists, a Native-American
editor from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer asked, "What do you think
tribal sovereignty means in the 21st century?" As president and a
former governor, the journalist said, Bush had a "unique experience,
looking at [the issue] from two perspectives." The president fumbled.
"Tribal sovereignty means that-it's sovereignty," he stammered. "I
mean, you're a-you're a-you've been given sovereignty and you're
viewed as a sovereign entity." As Bush rambled, looking like a
schoolboy unprepared at the front of the class, many of the hundreds
of Asian, black, Native American and Hispanic journalists gathered
before him.well, snickered.
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Denis Feldmann
No, no, a part of the joy is that they are free (and natural)
dajava
I do not want to make a long Academic argument for Business Administration here
>
> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> > I was much more civilized than they were
>
>
> And, by "civilized" you mean how well that society treats its
> unfortunates, i.e. the prisoners, the infirm, elderly, weaker sex,
> handicapped, children, future generations, etc. etc. etc. ?
>
I was talking about academics.
I did not belong to American universities
according to professors in the USA.
>
>
> > I want to change all the 'primitives' to 'babarians' in my previous
> > messages to reduce some confusions.
> > Therefore, I 'd like to write, "A civilized yellow monkey is more
> > than qulaified to look down upon White babarian"
>
>
> In history, however, "barbarians" were simply those invaders
> who came from a certain region of the planet. Being also that they
> were conquerers it's a conundrum to assume they were uncivilized.
>
>
Then choose a better vocavulary to describe Whites in New Mexico
>
>
> >> Mr. Bridges has been fairminded, once he got over himself.
> >> Perhaps he will manage to improve the quality of education in NM.
>
> > I don't buy that.
> > His credentials are just ignorable
> > I visited his homepage before
> > to order to know of his educational backgrounds
> > He is just a White babarian from a Korean's point of view.
>
>
> Yet "the map is not the territory" so I'm uncertain whether you
> can judge a book by its cover, nor whether you can evaluate an
> individual by visiting their webpage.
>
>
From Missipi,
went to an obscure unisersity in a less developed place like Arizona
teachs at an unknown third rated university in a desert
By the way, be sure to remember I myself was a student in New Mexico
I already wrote that its academics were very poor
>
>
> > Be sure to remember that I am a Seoulite and a former semi New Yorker
>
>
> This indicated to me your preferance for large metropolitan centers.
>
>
>
>
> - regards
> - jb
>
>
A very important facor for Business Administration
dajava,
Orne Batmagoo
dajava wrote:
> From Missipi,
> went to an obscure unisersity in a less developed place like Arizona
> teachs at an unknown third rated university in a desert
Allow me to correct a few of your mistakes in spelling, punctuation, and
grammar. That is, I'm going to correct them whether you allow me to or not.
From Mississippi, [he] went to an obscure university in a less-developed
place like Arizona; [he] teaches at an unknown, third-rate university in
a desert.
"Mississipi" is misspelled. You left out the subject "he" in both clauses.
I have no idea what you mean by "less-developed place like Arizona".
Less developed than what? This is unclear writing. In any case, there
must be a hyphen when you use "less-developed" attributively, to modify
the noun "place".
And it wasn't "like" Arizona, it _was_ Arizona where Patrick attended college.
"Third-rate" must have a hyphen when used attributively to modify
"university". As you can obviously spell that word correctly, one
has to wonder why you misspelled it the first time you used it.
Finally, you need a period (British "full stop") at the end of the sentence.
And that is just _one_ of your typical sentences.
> By the way, be sure to remember I myself was a student in New Mexico
> I already wrote that its academics were very poor
Were they as poor at it as you are? Obviously, _you_ didn't learn
anything there. Your sloppy writing is absolutely terrible.
Primitive, one might say.
Now, really! If you expect people to take you and your ideas seriously,
you're going to have to do a better job with spelling, composition,
punctuation, and grammar!
D+.
Try a little harder, otherwise no one will want to read what you write.
You are losing your audience. The only reason I haven't killfiled you yet
is that you are entertaining, in a clown-like sort of way.
And by the way, what's wrong with the desert? It's lovely this time of year.
--
Orne Batmagoo
(Rich Brown)
Patrick G. Bridges
> From Missipi,
> went to an obscure unisersity in a less developed place like Arizona
> teachs at an unknown third rated university in a desert
Let me get this straight. You're calling me a barbarian based solely
on where I'm from and where I went to school without ever having even
met me? And here I was thinking that you thought judging people based
on superficial issues like their skin color was barbarous...
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daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> Charles's friend once told me that Charles does not have a job
> but his wife, as a patent lawyer, supports him with good incomes.
Some people marry up, while others marry down. I think you
were making a mere "circumstantial" _ad_hominem_ fallacy there.
Furthermore, you have resorted to rumor mongering and hearsay.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> says:
> I do not want to make a long Academic argument for
> Business Administration here
but then --
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> says:
> I was talking about academics.
A bit confusing, and seems to be a self-contradiction.
> I did not belong to American universities
> according to professors in the USA.
Well, were you nevertheless a protected minority class?
> Then choose a better vocavulary to describe Whites in New Mexico
Why not ask the Apache, Arapaho, Sioux, Navaho, or Hopi?
> From Missipi,
> went to an obscure unisersity in a less developed place like Arizona
> teachs at an unknown third rated university in a desert
> By the way, be sure to remember I myself was a student in New Mexico
> I already wrote that its academics were very poor
If you don't wish to discuss what academics are, with regards to topics
of Business Administration, then I can well understand your position.
> A very important facor for Business Administration
What, then, is being "administered" ?
"Patrick G. Bridges" <bri...@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU> wrote:
> Let me get this straight. You're calling me a barbarian based solely
> on where I'm from and where I went to school without ever having
> even met me? And here I was thinking that you thought judging people
> based on superficial issues like their skin color was barbarous...
It seems that if one has a photo on their webpage, then that's all
to be required when evaluating a minority status of dwindling whites.
- regards
- jb
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YOUNG SWEDISH BOY KILLED FOR ADMITTING HE WAS A "NAZI"
14-YEAR-OLD WHITE BOY KILLED BY IMMIGRANTS
"The night between Saturday and Sunday the 14-year-old white boy
James Waite was stabbed to death by a gang of immigrants north of
Swedish capital Stockholm. Waite had participated in a barbecue with
his friends when he on the way home met his assassins, a group of
five to seven immigrant youths. "Are you a Nazi", one of them asked
young James. "Yes", he replied, whereupon he was assaulted,
stabbed several times in the chest, one blow piercing his heart.
He later bled to death on the way to a children零 hospital."
http://www.nnnforum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12410
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Orne Batmagoo <batm...@NOSPAM.thinkhost.com> wrote:
> Allow me to correct a few of your mistakes in spelling, punctuation, and
> grammar. That is, I'm going to correct them whether you allow me to or not.
Why do you need to request an allowance if you're going ahead anyway ?
> "Mississipi" is misspelled. You left out the subject "he" in both clauses.
You mispelled, as well. The correct name is "_M_i_s_s_i_s_s_i_p_p_i_"
Not a mistake to leave off subject. Simply called subjectless sentence.
> I have no idea what you mean by "less-developed place like Arizona".
> Less developed than what? This is unclear writing.
Then take it to mean: "less developed than the norm."
> In any case, there must be a hyphen when you use "less-developed"
> attributively, to modify the noun "place".
Use of hyphen can usually be optional for most circumstances.
> And it wasn't "like" Arizona, it _was_ Arizona where Patrick attended college.
If it was actually Arizona, then it was also "like" being the actual.
His assertion was also -generalizing- to include any other "less
developed" place (according to the author, that is), as well...
> "Third-rate" must have a hyphen when used attributively to modify
> "university". As you can obviously spell that word correctly, one
> has to wonder why you misspelled it the first time you used it.
If he had demonstrated proper spelling than other variants may be
construed as a typo. Arugement by typo exemplifies a cliche fallacy.
> Finally, you need a period (British "full stop") at the end of the sentence.
The period is not part of a sentence but part of its punctuation.
> Were they as poor at it as you are? Obviously, _you_ didn't learn
> anything there. Your sloppy writing is absolutely terrible.
He said he was studying Business Administration, not English.
> Now, really! If you expect people to take you and your ideas seriously,
> you're going to have to do a better job with spelling, composition,
> punctuation, and grammar! ...
I don't suppose that he expects to be taking seriously. One could
take it to be a given that this was a given from the outset.
> Try a little harder, otherwise no one will want to read what you write.
Mr. Batmagoo did, however.
> You are losing your audience. The only reason I haven't killfiled you
> yet is that you are entertaining, in a clown-like sort of way.
"Orne Batmagoo" provides one example of a "White Primitive." To
render proper criticism, Mr. Batmagoo needs to correspond in Korean.
- regards
- jb
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PRO-ISRAELI/ZIONIST TELEVANGELIST PAID HUSH MONEY IN ALLEGED 'GAY' SCANDAL
A FRIEND OF HAL LINDSEY AS WELL
This story really is a shame. I use to watch TBN in place of church
(before I was converted to CI). The Network now promotes race-mixing
and has a VERY pro-Israeli/Zionist stance. Crouch is from the same town
as fellow rapture-bunny John Ashcroft, who Crouch regards as a CLOSE
friend. Crouch dedicated tons of airtime to the now Attorney General while
he was up before congressional hearings, and Crouch uses his tax-free
on-air pulpit to push a number of neo-conservative issues. What a waste.
The Network had potential and now (like so many others) has become
a shill for ITZALIE. I wonder how suckpoop expert Hal Lindsey will spin the
the issue? I guess R.W. Shambach is going to be called upon again to host
a 'special' fundraising event to help finance TBN's latest legal troubles.
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040912-034827-5480r.htm
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dajava
>
> Now, really! If you expect people to take you and your ideas seriously,
> you're going to have to do a better job with spelling, composition,
> punctuation, and grammar!
>
It is because I did no take English 101 and 102
which teaches "spelling, composition, punctuation, and grammar!"
> D+.
>
> Try a little harder, otherwise no one will want to read what you write.
> You are losing your audience.
I did not know there are audiences other than jb :)
> The only reason I haven't killfiled you yet
> is that you are entertaining, in a clown-like sort of way.
>
> And by the way, what's wrong with the desert? It's lovely this time of year.
Relly? What a taste.
dajava,
dajava
> daj...@naver.com (dajava) writes:
>
> > From Missipi,
> > went to an obscure unisersity in a less developed place like Arizona
> > teachs at an unknown third rated university in a desert
>
> Let me get this straight. You're calling me a barbarian based solely
> on where I'm from and where I went to school without ever having even
> met me? And here I was thinking that you thought judging people based
> on superficial issues like their skin color was barbarous...
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Orne Batmagoo (batm...@NOSPAM.thinkhost.com)
Poor Academics [Was: Re: KGS Announcement: Free Pro Lecture]
View this article only
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2004-09-15
"Mississipi" is misspelled. You left out the subject "he" in both clauses.
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Patrick, may I ask you a favor?
Try to re-born in Texas or in New jersey.
I do not want to be criticized for mispelling 'Mississipi'
at two o'clock in the morning after having some booze.
dajava,
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>> And by the way, what's wrong with the desert?
>> It's lovely this time of year.
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> Relly? What a taste.
Robert James Fischer was from Arizona and the desert did not harm him.
"dajava" <daj...@naver.com> wrote:
> I do not want to be criticized for mispelling 'Mississipi'
> at two o'clock in the morning after having some booze.
I'm in agreement that ordinary spelling errors can be overlooked,
however you can still be cited for drinking and driving onto USENET.
- regards
- jb
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Rabbi 'dismembered by rent boy'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,2763,1304841,00.html
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dajava
> Orne Batmagoo <batm...@NOSPAM.thinkhost.com> wrote:
> > Allow me to correct a few of your mistakes in spelling, punctuation, and
> > grammar. That is, I'm going to correct them whether you allow me to or not.
>
You are allowed to correct my English sentecnes.
Your message reminds me of some problems Korean studnets had - still
have- in the USA
I gave up improving my English somewhat 20 years ago, by the way.
My TOEFL (Test Of English as a Foreign Language) scores were 640
points
,which indicated that my English was the best of the best as a
non-native English speaker.
I got perfect scores for its grammer section and I missed only 2
problems for its vocabulary section.
By the way, I got perfect scores for Michigan test offered by the
UNiversity of Michigan.
But, so what? there was no comparisons between my English and that of
Americans students even in that case.
I can write better than this with Longman English Dictionary with good
sample sentences
and I can check my sentences with a spelling checking software
the way, as a "mature' graduate studnet', I did when I wrote
serious papers.
But I will not help me very much.
The fundamental problems were that my English sentences were
Korean-accented.
My American friends commented, "You grammer is perfect. You use
gradurate student level vocabularies.
But, this is not the way we Americans express, though I still can
understand what you are trying to say."
English 101 and 102 teaching English compositions are required courses
for undergraduate students
and even American students considered them as very tough ones.
I arrived at the USA as a graduate student, therefore, I needed not
take English 101 and 102.
But I seriously considered to take them after many hard times with
English compositons.
But their lecturers would not let me get in the courses, arguing that
they are very difficult even for native English
speakers. English language schools of American universities offered
seperate English 101 and 102 courses for
international students,
but they are for students with very poor English skills.
Furthermore, I had to concentrate on graduate cources than English.
As compared with Korean students, Chinese students used much better
English.
There was a simple secret : The Chinese language was much more
similiar to English than the Korean one did.
>
>
>
> > Finally, you need a period (British "full stop") at the end of the sentence.
>
>
> The period is not part of a sentence but part of its punctuation.
>
>
>
>
> > Were they as poor at it as you are? Obviously, _you_ didn't learn
> > anything there. Your sloppy writing is absolutely terrible.
>
>
> He said he was studying Business Administration, not English.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Try a little harder, otherwise no one will want to read what you write.
>
>
> Mr. Batmagoo did, however.
>
Patrick G. Bridges
> Patrick, may I ask you a favor?
> Try to re-born in Texas or in New jersey.
Actually, I *was* born in Texas. I grew up in Mississippi, however, so
that's where I generally say I'm from.
dajava
> >
It has nothing to do with feminism. It is an Academic dispute.
Hellen and her two friends -Robert and James-were the worst professors
I had ever met in the USA.
If you read their papers and have some chats with them,
you will get an impression that they are nice people with beautiful
thoughts
the way I did myself.
But, you can tell that they are phonies if you take their courses for
a month.
They taught cross-cultural organization theories where they teach how
Japanese management systems can be applied to American companies to
raise performances. I soon realized that their knowledge of Japan were
very limited and inaccurate. My friends in Cultural Anthropology
department in New Mexico who know them even got impressions that they
lied on purpose to publish papers.
I told them to help them if they want, but they rejects my offer.
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This is a seperate issue.
Asia for Educators hosted by Columbia University with funds by
Panasonic in Japan.
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/
It has very limited and inaccurate resources for Korea.
By the way, you may be interested in this official homepage of
National Musium of Korea.
http://www.museum.go.kr/eng/index.html (in English)
http://www.museum.go.kr/jap/index.html (in Japanese)
http://www.museum.go.kr/chi_s/index.html (in simplified Chinese)
http://www.museum.go.kr/chi_t/index.html (in Traditional Chinese)
>
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>
> dajava,
dajava,
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>>> daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
>>>> Do you want an example or emamples? ... White babarians like
>>>> Hellen Muller were totally misconceived that they are superior to
>>>> Asians like me simple because they are White and I am Yellow
>>>> and argued that they wanted to help miserable people like me
daj...@naver.com (dajava) wrote:
> It has nothing to do with feminism. It is an Academic dispute.
Ordinarily, an "academic dispute" might indicate -lack- of significance.
> Hellen and her two friends -Robert and James-were the worst professors
> I had ever met in the USA.
> If you read their papers and have some chats with them,
> you will get an impression that they are nice people with beautiful
> thoughts
> the way I did myself.
> But, you can tell that they are phonies if you take their courses for
> a month.
>
> They taught cross-cultural organization theories where they teach how
> Japanese management systems can be applied to American companies
> to raise performances. I soon realized that their knowledge of Japan were
> very limited and inaccurate. My friends in Cultural Anthropology
> department in New Mexico who know them even got impressions that
> they lied on purpose to publish papers.
Were you preferring that they teach Korean management systems?
If, as you had said much earlier,
>>>> "... White babarians like Hellen Muller were totally
>>>> misconceived that they are superior to Asians ..."
then why were they -promoting- management systems from Asia?
I think your argument seems to be that of a Japan/Korea dispute,
not a dispute between `dajava' and some American University profs.
> I told them to help them if they want, but they rejects my offer.
A rule against using pronouns when we wish to communicate precisely.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> This is a seperate issue.
> Asia for Educators hosted by Columbia University with funds by
> Panasonic in Japan.
>
> http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/
>
> It has very limited and inaccurate resources for Korea.
Is there a counterpart (like "panasonic") from Korea which
can do the same?
> By the way, you may be interested in this official homepage
> of National Musium of Korea.
> http://www.museum.go.kr/
> http://www.museum.go.kr/eng/index.html (in English)
> ...
Very good. Thanks for the tips ...
- regards
- jb
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Elwyn Berlekamp's Home Page
http://math.berkeley.edu/~berlek/index.html
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dajava
You are wrong again. ha ha ha!
Let me tell you one more story.
Rober Rehder was founding Dean of Anderson School of Management in New
Mexico.
I asked him to assume all the responsibilities for disputes between me
and professors he hired. But he rejected.
>
dajava,