Everywhere Man
Steven Jones
make it into an RPG anytime soon. There's nothing to disrupt game balance
like unlimited extra lives.
Rob Kelk
I didn't see the episode... Isn't "unlimited extra lives" just
Unkillable 2 in GURPS terms, maybe with some level of Regeneration to
speed the return process?
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Steven Jones
allows him to make clones of himself, instantly. These clones can also be
vanished at will, provided you're wearing the device. He made a clone to
serve as a lab partner but the clone rebelled and locked up the original and
the clone became an art thief, also making lots more clones of himself.
Each clone is a bit more evil than its parent. This cloning process also
works on objects touched by someone wearing the device. A character could
theoreticaly make a whole party of adventurers from clones of himself.
Bent C Dalager
> What happens in the episode is that a friend of Bruce's built a device that
> allows him to make clones of himself, instantly. These clones can also be
> vanished at will, provided you're wearing the device.
So far it sounds like Duplication at some sufficiently excessive
level.
> He made a clone to
> serve as a lab partner but the clone rebelled and locked up the original and
> the clone became an art thief, also making lots more clones of himself.
> Each clone is a bit more evil than its parent.
The dupes not necessarily being loyal sounds like a serious nuisance
limitation on Duplication. Some other limitation may be a better fit,
depending on the details. Temporary Disadvantage: Split Personality
perhaps.
> This cloning process also
> works on objects touched by someone wearing the device.
Same as above, only built as an Affliction.
This is probably going to get incredibly expensive, but then that's
what super villains are for.
> A character could
> theoreticaly make a whole party of adventurers from clones of himself.
This is exactly what Duplication does.
Since it's a device working the miracle it can be modelled as tech or
magic, sidestepping the point cost issue entirely of course (unless
you want it as Signature Gear).
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Bent D
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Steven Jones
techno-nerd. With it, he's the Everywhere Man.
Bent C Dalager
> techno-nerd. With it, he's the Everywhere Man.
In that case, it's either Duplication with Gadget and other
limitations, or else you just have to come up with a $ price for the
thing and calculate its Signature Gear cost.
Charlton Wilbur
RK> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:41:09 +1000, "Steven Jones"
RK> <stev...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> Anyone seen this 'The Batman' episode? There's one superpower
>> that won't make it into an RPG anytime soon. There's nothing to
>> disrupt game balance like unlimited extra lives.
RK> I didn't see the episode... Isn't "unlimited extra lives" just
RK> Unkillable 2 in GURPS terms, maybe with some level of
RK> Regeneration to speed the return process?
I've played such a character before, in fact. It winds up not being a
game balance problem because that's 150 points[1] you're not spending on
super-move or shooting laser beams from your eyes.
So yeah, you can't be killed, but you're giving up a lot of potential
cool powers in order to definitively prevent something that might happen
twice or three times in a campaign. It might be unbalanced in terms of
some abstract concept of "effectiveness," but as far as screen time
goes, it's a major sacrifice.
Charlton
[1] Unkillable 2, 100 points; Regeneration (Fast), 1 hp/minute, 50
points.
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David Johnston
That's a Gadget, not Signature Gear.
David Lamb
> So yeah, you can't be killed, but you're giving up a lot of potential
> cool powers in order to definitively prevent something that might happen
> twice or three times in a campaign. It might be unbalanced in terms of
> some abstract concept of "effectiveness," but as far as screen time
> goes, it's a major sacrifice.
If somebody has a power like that, wouldn't the player tend to push
things to make death for that character more frequent? Taking big risks
to do relatively mundane things? E.g. enter the containment chamber to
heroically fix the radioactive steam leak?
WDS
In my experience, yeah. At a convention I once played in an event where
we were a group of goofy wizard associates and one guy was a skeleton.
He was quite destructible but the wizard just reanimated him when he got
smashed. Several of my friends also played the same event and sometimes
the player would get into the whole "smash me and I'll just get up"
thing and had a lot of fun and were very active. Others just didn't
seem to get it and played him as the otherwise wimpy character he was.
David Johnston
<stev...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>It IS signature gear for this guy.
No, it's a Gadget.