Scan of TSRs Dragon Image???
Colin Marr
TSR catalog? Its the dragon in a circle where the body forms the S in TSR.
I'd appreciate it if someone could e-mail it to me...
Thanks.
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Veggie Boy
: Does anyone out there have a scan of the Dragon Image thats on the current
: TSR catalog? Its the dragon in a circle where the body forms the S in TSR.
: I'd appreciate it if someone could e-mail it to me...
Colin -
That artwork is owned by TSR. Copying it in such a manner is a violation
of TSR's copyright, and could get you in some legal trouble. Please
don't do it.
- Sean Reynolds
TSR Online Coordinator
TSR...@aol.com
"'Come to the edge,' he said. They said, 'We are afraid.'
'Come to the edge,' he said. They came. He pushed them...
And they flew." - Peter McWilliams
Terry Austin
>If you get it from anyone but TSR themselves, or pass around a copy
>yourself, it's copyright infringement.
Course, if it's done by private email, TSR has no way of every
knowing, and won't spend the money to prosecute if they do (since
we're talking private use here). But they'll never admit that.
Terry "I finally made it into Larry Smith's killfile" Austin
What does USG stand for anyway, Larry? Unusually Stupid Guy?
What proof do we have that Larry Smith and Slacker01 are not,
in fact, the same person. Has anyone ever seen the two of
them together?
Aardy R. DeVarque
>Does anyone out there have a scan of the Dragon Image thats on the current
>TSR catalog? Its the dragon in a circle where the body forms the S in TSR.
>I'd appreciate it if someone could e-mail it to me...
If you get it from anyone but TSR themselves, or pass around a copy
yourself, it's copyright infringement.
To my knowledge, TSR hasn't made any of it's logo's available on the
Internet itself, though it's possible that some of them may be
available for download and private use from AOL. Still means you
can't legally have anyone but TSR send it to you...
Aardy R. DeVarque
Feudalism: Serf & Turf
Berg
: Colin Marr (cm...@gold.interlog.com) wrote:
: : Does anyone out there have a scan of the Dragon Image thats on the current
: : TSR catalog? Its the dragon in a circle where the body forms the S in TSR.
: : I'd appreciate it if someone could e-mail it to me...
: Colin -
: That artwork is owned by TSR. Copying it in such a manner is a violation
: of TSR's copyright, and could get you in some legal trouble. Please
: don't do it.
Actually, the proper thing to do is to ask for permission to use
the image. And as the netrep, you're the one to ask about it (or at the
very least, you could direct him to the proper department). Don't just
tell him it's illegal to do it one way, tell him about the legal way to
do it as well.
Veggie Boy
> Actually, the proper thing to do is to ask for permission to use
> the image. And as the netrep, you're the one to ask about it (or
> at the very least, you could direct him to the proper department).
> Don't just tell him it's illegal to do it one way, tell him about
> the legal way to do it as well.
copy of the logo. I explained the legality of such a request. At that
point, it is up to Colin to 1) decide if he really wants this logo, and if
so 2) find out how to get it. One path he could take is to ask "How can I
get permission to use it?"
Veggie Boy
: Well, I really opened a can of worms there didn't I? Let me further open
: the can and spread them worms around real good by asking: what permission is
: required if one is considering getting the dragon from the TSR logo as a
: tattoo? (not the circle and letters T and R, just the dragon)...
(chuckle)
We get this sort of request a lot, actually. Connie says this falls
under "personal use," so go ahead, use it for the tattoo ... and
thanks for the unspoken complement on the artwork. :)
- Sean Reynolds
TSR Online Coordinator
TSR...@aol.com
"We hug and we kiss, We sit and make lists
We drink and I bandage your wrists."
'Everything Old Is New Again'
- BareNaked Ladies
Colin Marr
the can and spread them worms around real good by asking: what permission is
required if one is considering getting the dragon from the TSR logo as a
tattoo? (not the circle and letters T and R, just the dragon)...
Thanks in advance for the reply..
Veggie Boy (skr...@netcom.com) wrote:
: - Sean Reynolds
: TSR Online Coordinator
: TSR...@aol.com
ed taychert
>Colin Marr (cm...@gold.interlog.com) wrote:
>: Does anyone out there have a scan of the Dragon Image thats on the current
>: TSR catalog? Its the dragon in a circle where the body forms the S in TSR.
>: I'd appreciate it if someone could e-mail it to me...
>
>Colin -
>
>That artwork is owned by TSR. Copying it in such a manner is a violation
>of TSR's copyright, and could get you in some legal trouble. Please
>don't do it.
>
Gosh, Sean, I just don't see how you can tell that this is a copyright
violation. It's this kind of chest thumping that goads me into telling
folks to ignore you. You should actually read the copyright law yourself
if you think it's impossible to copy your pictures without breaking
that law ... I'll give you a head start, check USC17, p113(c). I can't
tell is 113(c) applies here or not; how can you?
- Ed.
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Deanna Hatter
: Gosh, Sean, I just don't see how you can tell that this is a copyright
: violation. It's this kind of chest thumping that goads me into telling
: folks to ignore you. You should actually read the copyright law yourself
: if you think it's impossible to copy your pictures without breaking
: that law ... I'll give you a head start, check USC17, p113(c). I can't
: tell is 113(c) applies here or not; how can you?
It's real simple, Ed. Do you own the original picture, or have it
commisisoned for you? Then you don't own the rights to the picture.
That's it, in the short form...
Jason
Sean K Reynolds
: Gosh, Sean, I just don't see how you can tell that this is a copyright
: violation.
Actually, it's not that hard to tell, Ed - it's where he says:
"I'd appreciate it if someone could e-mail it to me...."
That, coupled with (on the TSR logo) "TM designates trademarks owned
by TSR, Inc. (C) 1994 TSR, Inc. All rights reserved."
However, this post was cleared up long ago once it was found that
he only wanted the logo for a tattoo, which falls under "personal use."
- Sean Reynolds
TSR Online Coordinator
TSR...@aol.com
"Well, I fell down, with no one there to catch me from falling
Then she came 'round
Only her tenderness stopped me from bawlin' my eys out - I'm O.K."
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Larry Smith
In article <456jb2$7...@spectator.cris.com>, Towo...@cris.com (Deanna Hatter) writes:
>ed taychert (tayc...@cyber2.servtech.com) wrote:
>: Gosh, Sean, I just don't see how you can tell that this is a copyright
>: violation.
>It's real simple, Ed. Do you own the original picture, or have it
>commisisoned for you? Then you don't own the rights to the picture.
>
>That's it, in the short form...
Here it is even shorter and even simpler: fair use. Now go read the
law and knock off this mind-reading routine. You have no clue a crime
is being committed just because he doesn't have "rights" to a picture.
USC Title 17 specifically and in no uncertain terms reserves certain
rights. Maybe all he wants to do is print the damn thing out and put
it on his AD&D notebook. That is 100% legal.
God, this junk gets worse every day. And over in the rec.arts.
disney newsgroup the Disney reps, the proverbial 600 pound gorilla
of the intellectual property world, are setting up libraries of
images and issuing blanket permissions for personal non-profit
use. What a role-reversal!
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than the evil deed itself. The justification of a past crime is the planting
and cultivation of future crimes. - Eric Hoffer Digital Unix: 64 bit _now_.