Rules question

[Denis]

Here is a little case:

Russia: SWE and STP
Germany: DEN and BAL
England: SKA and NGE and GRO

Orders:

Russia:
SWE-NGE
STP S SWE - NGE

Germany:
BAL - SWE
DEN S BAL - SWE

England:
NGE - SWE
SKA S NGE - SWE
GRO - NGE (maybe useless)

What happens?

First answer: Russian and English attacks are cancelled, because of rule
on exchanging places. Thus, German attack succeed.

Second answer: There is a general stand-off. Two attacks of the same
strength against SWE, hence stand-off

Third answer: Don't understand the question....

Thanks for your help, pals

[Mikhail Kuperblum]

In article <3F28C42C...@adelaide.edu.au>,
Denis <denis.c...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:

> Russia: SWE and STP
> Germany: DEN and BAL
> England: SKA and NGE and GRO

^^^ ^^^
These abbreviations are non-standard in the US, but from context I
understand NGE to be the abbreviation for Norway, and GRO the abbreviation
for the Norwegian Sea.

> SWE-NGE
> STP S SWE - NGE

> BAL - SWE
> DEN S BAL - SWE

> NGE - SWE
> SKA S NGE - SWE
> GRO - NGE

> First answer: Russian and English attacks are cancelled, because of rule

> on exchanging places. Thus, German attack succeed.

Attacks don't cancel. They may fail, but they don't cancel.

> Second answer: There is a general stand-off. Two attacks of the same
> strength against SWE, hence stand-off

Three attacks of strength 2, two into Sweden and one out. All bounce. Even
if any one support is cut, they all will bounce as the other two stand off
and the attack whose support is cut also bounces.

Just to be sure I'm clear, the only correct adjudication of the above
orders, assuming no effect by other forces, is that all units bounce.

--
Randy Hudson <i...@panix.com>

[Steve]

> Russia: SWE and STP
> Germany: DEN and BAL
> England: SKA and NGE and GRO
>

> Russia:
> SWE-NGE
> STP S SWE - NGE
>
> Germany:
> BAL - SWE
> DEN S BAL - SWE
>
> England:
> NGE - SWE
> SKA S NGE - SWE
> GRO - NGE (maybe useless)

Forget all about this "canceling" idea that you suggest. The concept is not
operative in standard diplomacy rules. All moves fail. Nobody has a superior
attack needed to dislodge its target.

Swe-nge is opposed by nge-swe in an equal attack.
Bal-swe is opposed by nge-swe in an equal attack.
Nge-swe is opposed by BOTH swe-nge & bal-swe in equal attacks.

If someone cuts either stp or den, the result is unchanged... all bounces
because nge-swe is still opposed by the remaining attack.

If someone cuts BOTH stp and den, then nge-swe (& gro-nge) would succeed.

If someone cuts ska, then swe-nge & bal-swe BOTH succeed.