Accidental PK :=( + Murder Count Question
Gorky
Today, my main character was wandering around outside Moonglow watching
the elemental fights when a guy in newbie clothes walks up to me. I
have a serious paranoia problems and so I immediatley tried to pull up
his paper doll to check his notoriety but as i did, the game hung.
after what seemed like ages I decided to log off and log back on,
hitting random keys and clicking the mouse button in disgust first. All
of a sudden, the game sprung to life. I saw a brief glimpse of a noto
warning then a message telling me I was attacking this guy! Not a great
place to go grey
I immediatley ran away before I could hit the guy and got about 10
steps before I froze again. (I had about 50% packet loss at the
time)about five seconds later half of the people outside moonglow where
surrounding me. I screamed that it was an accident and most of them
stood back. However, the person I attacked ran up and attacked me.
Acouple of swings of my katana and he was dead. I lagged again for
about 10 seconds and when I regained connection he had died again. He
insta rezzed and attacked again and I auto responded and killed him
again. Another guy decided to join in and started to attack so I
recalled away (after another lag) off my rune to the bank (probably not
a good idea but it was my only rune).
I ran into the councellors guild hall where I lost connection again. I
logged on in time to see a message saying I had just lost a good amount
of karma. After becoming blue I wandered back outside the town and saw
another corpse of the guy who I killed on the floor (I assume this was
the kill that gave me the last loss of karma). I check my title and it
is now disreputable (from respectable). I ask the guy who I killed if
he had reportred me and he said "yes, many times", smiled and ran off.
I was pretty pissed off because I liked my title and many hours
had gone into getting it to respectable (I don't harvest monsters like
some fame whores) but what I am more worried about is how many murder
counts I will have gotten from this. Is there anyway to check how many
counts I have gotten? I considered my sins and was told I had slain the
innocents...blah...blah...blah but that doesn't help much. I would have
thought I would have got only one for the original kill but what the guy
said afterwards leads me to believe that I have more. Is he lying?
Please help
The Respect...erm...Disreputable Gorky, Moonglow, Europa
P.S. if you see me wandering around Europa(You can't miss me, I'm
bright aqua/green colour) you CAN trust me :)
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Phillip Weiss
other players who have karma higher than you as well as kill more monsters.
Getting back to neutral karma is pretty easy, but you have a haul for yourself
if you don't do alot of monster fighting in regards to getting back up to
Respectable.
Oh, and the count will disappear in 40 hours, and it will be as if you never got
it. That is, if you don't kill someone and get reported again before that time
period is up.
John McGuigan
I think we've met around Moonglow on Europa. If you're still low on karma
you can heal my 'fair' character after I've hit myself with lightning and
ebolts.
Guig
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Faerlyt
> thought I would have got only one for the original kill but what the guy
> said afterwards leads me to believe that I have more. Is he lying?
When I was in the SBR, I'd do "lemming runs" against a Pk group -- that is
strip down to cheap stuff and go get murdered by 'em. The whole point was to
confirm that they were an genuinely pking, as well as to help shove them
deeper into statloss territory. Plus it was a kinda fun way to pass the time
while waiting for a assault group to form up.
On the first run, they would attack and I would hand out counts. If I didn't
wait long enough between the first and second run (something like 2-5
minutes) then I wouldn't be able to hand out any counts on the second try -
I was still grey to them. And when I did wait long enough, they would have
to re-attack me - autodefend was off by then.
He shouldn't have been able to hand out more than one count. If you're
telling the truth, he was lying.
Opium
> > thought I would have got only one for the original kill but what the guy
> > said afterwards leads me to believe that I have more. Is he lying?
>
> When I was in the SBR, I'd do "lemming runs" against a Pk group -- that is
> strip down to cheap stuff and go get murdered by 'em. The whole point was to
> confirm that they were an genuinely pking, as well as to help shove them
> deeper into statloss territory. Plus it was a kinda fun way to pass the time
> while waiting for a assault group to form up.
>
> On the first run, they would attack and I would hand out counts. If I didn't
> wait long enough between the first and second run (something like 2-5
> minutes) then I wouldn't be able to hand out any counts on the second try -
> I was still grey to them. And when I did wait long enough, they would have
> to re-attack me - autodefend was off by then.
Doing this just to give murder counts is almost as lame as killing newbies
and miners.
Quaestor
> Doing this just to give murder counts is almost as lame as killing newbies and
> miners.
Complaining about taking murder counts from people who did nothing to you is as
lame as pking.
Otara
>> On the first run, they would attack and I would hand out counts. If I didn't
>> wait long enough between the first and second run (something like 2-5
>> minutes) then I wouldn't be able to hand out any counts on the second try -
>> I was still grey to them. And when I did wait long enough, they would have
>> to re-attack me - autodefend was off by then.
>
>and miners.
Err - no. Not by a long shot. All they have to do is stop killing
him and the problem goes away. The other groups dont have that
option.
Otara
Corwin of Amber (WE/LS)
>> When I was in the SBR, I'd do "lemming runs" against a Pk group -- that is
>> strip down to cheap stuff and go get murdered by 'em. The whole point was to
>> confirm that they were an genuinely pking, as well as to help shove them
>> deeper into statloss territory. Plus it was a kinda fun way to pass the time
>> while waiting for a assault group to form up.
>>
>> On the first run, they would attack and I would hand out counts. If I didn't
>> wait long enough between the first and second run (something like 2-5
>> minutes) then I wouldn't be able to hand out any counts on the second try -
>> I was still grey to them. And when I did wait long enough, they would have
>> to re-attack me - autodefend was off by then.
>Doing this just to give murder counts is almost as lame as killing newbies
>and miners.
Actually, it's pretty damn good at changing the way the PKs and blue
PKs operate. Blue PKs especially love to cherry pick. Many of them
find someone who looks like they have good loot, and looks easy to
kill and then they attack. If the victim runs away or recalls, they
just try it again on the next victim. But if you suicide, and throw
them in to stat-loss ... then and only then does the game allow some
kind of justice to be served.
Or as gil would say ... first make 'em red ... then make 'em dead.
Corwin
Opium
> > miners.
>
> lame as pking.
If the same d00d kills you over and over he seems not to care for murder counts
anyway. His character is probably one of the one-day-sparred-dexmonkeys.
Opium
> >> strip down to cheap stuff and go get murdered by 'em. The whole point was to
> >> confirm that they were an genuinely pking, as well as to help shove them
> >> deeper into statloss territory. Plus it was a kinda fun way to pass the time
> >> while waiting for a assault group to form up.
> >>
> >> On the first run, they would attack and I would hand out counts. If I didn't
> >> wait long enough between the first and second run (something like 2-5
> >> minutes) then I wouldn't be able to hand out any counts on the second try -
> >> I was still grey to them. And when I did wait long enough, they would have
> >> to re-attack me - autodefend was off by then.
>
> >and miners.
>
> PKs operate. Blue PKs especially love to cherry pick. Many of them
> find someone who looks like they have good loot, and looks easy to
> kill and then they attack. If the victim runs away or recalls, they
> just try it again on the next victim. But if you suicide, and throw
> them in to stat-loss ... then and only then does the game allow some
> kind of justice to be served.
>
> Or as gil would say ... first make 'em red ... then make 'em dead.
The reds with the big number of kills don't care for their murder count
anyway. Stat loss is capped at 20%...
Uwe Fischer
3839BA70...@cares.com...
> Doing this just to give murder counts is almost as lame as
killing newbies
> and miners.
I don´t think so. The murderer has the options to kill him
or to leave him alone. If he decides to kill him, he knows
about the consequences. He could leave him and getting no
count. It is his decision. The newbie or the miner have only
the option to fight or to recall. If recall fails, they have
only the option to die. That is a difference.
Regards
Grizwood, Seneschall (MTB), Drachenfels
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For Baphomet with fire and sword!
Corwin of Amber (WE/LS)
>anyway. Stat loss is capped at 20%...
Exactly. If we knew they were already stat capped we would not report
them, because after they hit 20% their just racking up the score for
the bounty board.
But back in the day, most PKs were blue who just kept on attacking and
attacking until they went red ... and then they would logout for the
night and wakeup blue.
Corwin