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Katherine

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Can thieves steal from NPCs in Trammel? (IIRC they can't steal from
players).

Katherine, Grandmaster Healer
Ciaran, Lia Fail Empire (Atlantic)

Richard Cortese

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Katherine <ka...@mhn.org> wrote in message
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> Can thieves steal from NPCs in Trammel? (IIRC they can't steal from
> players).
Tried it with a throw away character and got the message ~"Blocks your
attempt to steal" and wasn't guard whacked.

Almost looks like the only ones that will be guard whacked in Trammel are
bards and tamers.

greywolf

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As far as I know and have tested. No.

I would think they would change this at sometime but who knows?

Katherine <ka...@mhn.org> wrote in message
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> Can thieves steal from NPCs in Trammel? (IIRC they can't steal from
> players).
>

Duncan

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This is something that i should bring up to you newsgroup people. I don't
know how to do this, and it is being reported to the CoB board for dev, but
here goes. Right now, there is a bug for stealing items in trammel. Ready
for this one??? It isn't from bags or anything, it's from friggin trade
windows. I don't know how to do this, nor do I wish to experiment in it's
finding. Thus far, cross-shards, a skull candle, a piece of marble table,
many vanquishing, power, and force weps, sos bottles, and many other items
have been stolen exploiting this bug. Protect yourself....watch what you
trade and whom you trade it with. If it is someone who wants to buy your
rare playing cards, and is fully naked, stop. On a similar note, do not buy
any purple, burgandy, red or any other color plate helms, chain tunics, or
dyed metal anything. There was a server side bug involving a particular
vendor in a particular city on each shard selling these very desirable
pieces of armor. These are not rare, and will be very swiftly deleted on
site by GMs. Getting back to the bug, I believe it may have something to do
when sonoma, gl and pac coming up and thieves being able to steal from their
own packs as well as other peoples packs on their paper doll. Please be
very careful. Thank you.


Polychromic

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On Tue, 02 May 2000 18:54:04 -0500, With Held <NO...@NOTVALID.FIG>
wrote:

>On Tue, 02 May 2000 21:30:11 GMT, "Duncan" wrote:
>
>>On a similar note, do not buy
>>any purple, burgandy, red or any other color plate helms, chain tunics, or
>>dyed metal anything. There was a server side bug involving a particular
>>vendor in a particular city on each shard selling these very desirable
>>pieces of armor. These are not rare, and will be very swiftly deleted on
>>site by GMs.
>

>Someone wanted to sell me a set of Full Plate "Charcoal" Armor.
>Blackest plate I've ever seen with a nice shine to it. Guy said he got
>it and five other sets of different types back 1997. He only wanted
>120K.

Before the days of player made colored armor, there were many color
armor vendors run by players who collected it from NPC blacksmiths.
Very dark black was one of the possible colors. However, since it
isn't as good protection wise as player made GM shadow armor, there
isn't much call for it these days. (I had a colored armor vendor once
upon a time.)
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Duncan

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First off, charcoal armor is ok. This other armor i am speaking of is
burgandy, or red, or has a strange hue, not colored as in dull copper,
shadow, copper, bronze, gold, apagite, verite or valorite. all of these are
grey, dark orange, yellowish/green, strange purple, or blue. The armor that
I speak of has a strange hue around it. This is going to be cleared up
during the next shard server-down. The charcoal armor is ok, but the other,
hue-visible is not good to buy. Thank you


Wolf Kestris Rowanwood

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No, a friend tried last night. no dice. he's taking that charector back to
Felucca.}:)

-Wolf
baja

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Wolf Kestris Rowanwood

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I had someone try to sell me a leather gorget made of red-orange leather.
SAid awhile back they were majking red-orange leather then they stopped and
this was all he had left.
anyone know if this is true or not?

-Wolf
baja

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Katherine

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On Wed, 3 May 2000 10:58:19 -0400, "Wolf Kestris Rowanwood"
<wol...@onslowonline.net> wrote:

>I had someone try to sell me a leather gorget made of red-orange leather.
>SAid awhile back they were majking red-orange leather then they stopped and
>this was all he had left.
> anyone know if this is true or not?

Depends just how orange the leather is--studded leather has a more mahogany
tone than regular leather. (Or did you already check that possibility?)

Wolf Kestris Rowanwood

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nope, I just turned him down, told him to try the newbies in Brit.*G*
It was a rather burnt orange color. not as dark as studded.

-Wolf
baja

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gil

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Wolf Kestris Rowanwood wrote:
>
> nope, I just turned him down, told him to try the newbies in Brit.*G*
> It was a rather burnt orange color. not as dark as studded.

One npc type wears these items (don't remember offhand, sorry), and
folks kill them for it. They're not really rare, just that most folks
don't know about this.

If you're interested, you should be able to find mention of this at
http://www.markeedragon.com/ go to "forums/rares" and search back a
bit.

Folks chop up the green ranger armor to get green cut leather (they're
making their own "rares", since most won't sacrifice a piece of ranger
armor that sells for upwards of 10k). If you tailor green leather, you
don't get green leather armor, you get regular colored armor, so beware.

I don't know what you'd get if you cut up the orange gorget you refer
to, but I assume that if you got orange cut leather, and if you tailored
that orange cut up leather, you'd get regular colored armor, just like
with the green ranger armor.

I suppose folks could cut up the orange phoenix armor to get orange cut
leather, but since that sells for at least 10x that of ranger armor, few
are that foolish... errr, I mean, few are that wealthy ;)

gil

Taras Bulba

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Polychromic wrote in message ...

>On Tue, 02 May 2000 18:54:04 -0500, With Held <NO...@NOTVALID.FIG>
>wrote:
>

>Before the days of player made colored armor, there were many color


>armor vendors run by players who collected it from NPC blacksmiths.
>Very dark black was one of the possible colors. However, since it
>isn't as good protection wise as player made GM shadow armor, there
>isn't much call for it these days. (I had a colored armor vendor once
>upon a time.)


I have a set of Darkest Rose full plate from a long time ago, I heard it was
possible to re-smelt the armor into ingots and then make an exceptional set
in this new colour.
I bought from a Vendor just East of Britain, near the river, was that
yours?......

Atlantic shard

Otara

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On Thu, 04 May 2000 03:45:14 GMT, "Taras Bulba" <no-...@nowhere.com>
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>I have a set of Darkest Rose full plate from a long time ago, I heard it was
>possible to re-smelt the armor into ingots and then make an exceptional set
>in this new colour.

I doubt it. When I smelt store bought items, the message returned is
something along the lines of 'nice try matey' and you get only 1 ingot
for it.

It might work for something really old, but I wouldnt want to gamble
on it with something irreplaceable.

Otara

Polychromic

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May 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/5/00
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On Thu, 04 May 2000 03:45:14 GMT, "Taras Bulba" <no-...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I have a set of Darkest Rose full plate from a long time ago, I heard it was
>possible to re-smelt the armor into ingots and then make an exceptional set
>in this new colour.

>I bought from a Vendor just East of Britain, near the river, was that
>yours?......
>
>Atlantic shard
>

No, my vendors have all been on Verity Isle along the south edge.
Anyhow, unless a bug was involved, when you smelt NPC colored armor,
it just become plain iron ingots. Hmmm...my vendor predated the
ability to smelt metal too. I'm an oldbie. :)

Some of those NPC colors (which are still available from the NPCs) are
nicer IMHO than the newer player armor colors.

Little WhiteDove

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In article <3910...@news.iprimus.com.au>, Taras Bulba
<no-...@nowhere.com> wrote:

|Polychromic wrote in message ...
|>On Tue, 02 May 2000 18:54:04 -0500, With Held <NO...@NOTVALID.FIG>
|>wrote:
|>
|
|>Before the days of player made colored armor, there were many color
|>armor vendors run by players who collected it from NPC blacksmiths.
|>Very dark black was one of the possible colors. However, since it
|>isn't as good protection wise as player made GM shadow armor, there
|>isn't much call for it these days. (I had a colored armor vendor once
|>upon a time.)
|
|

|I have a set of Darkest Rose full plate from a long time ago, I heard it was
|possible to re-smelt the armor into ingots and then make an exceptional set
|in this new colour.
|I bought from a Vendor just East of Britain, near the river, was that
|yours?......
|
|Atlantic shard

That might be Helga's vendor shop? I can't for the life of me think of
her sister's name, but she has a GM smith in the area you describe.

-Little WhiteDove
Badb Catha, Lia Fail Empire
Atlantic

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