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Shaky

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May 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/29/99
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OK..never having tried one before, and with UOSS hopelessly out of
date, whats the best starting set up for a theif, and the best ways to
get the skills up?

I'm thinking of starting one just to see IF I can role play it a bit,
and to see the reactions of the general player base when I do.


- Jacko -

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May 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/29/99
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Start with,44 str,11 int,10 dex.Skills=50 stealing,50 hiding.Just keep
snooping to get dex up,You can steal from npc's and players with bad
karma.It seems to take forever to get into the Thieves guild but in a
week or two of snooping and stealing you should be able to get in.You
need 60 stealing to get in to the guild in order to steal from other
players,but remember you can steal from players with bad karma lower
than yours.It helps to practice stealing from another payer it goes up
much quicker so try and find someone to practice with and goodluck. :-)

((BrotherHood))Pac


Austin

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May 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/29/99
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Jacko is wrong. You CAN NOT steal from players with low karma. You CAN
steal from grey red orange green and permaflagged players. Dont bother
with 50 hiding take either 50 magery or 50 healing depending on
whether you wish to fight with melee or with magery.

Austin of Napa
Treasure Hunter for hire. If there are hunters on other shard
that use UOAM ill share my map files with you.

mur

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May 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/29/99
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On Sat, 29 May 1999 11:55:07 -0400 (EDT), Rain...@webtv.net (- Jacko
-) wrote:

>Start with,44 str,11 int,10 dex.Skills=50 stealing,50 hiding.Just keep
>snooping to get dex up,You can steal from npc's and players with bad
>karma.It seems to take forever to get into the Thieves guild but in a
>week or two of snooping and stealing you should be able to get in.You
>need 60 stealing to get in to the guild in order to steal from other
>players,but remember you can steal from players with bad karma lower
>than yours.It helps to practice stealing from another payer it goes up
>much quicker so try and find someone to practice with and goodluck. :-)
>
>((BrotherHood))Pac


Actually, hiding goes up quite quickly so I really think that it's not
worth it to waste 50 starting points on it. I'd start with 50 magery
- enough to recall. Also, you can't steal from players with low karma
if you're not in the thief's guild. Only greys, and reds, (and greens
and oranges if you're in a PC guild).

mur

Paul

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Having recently developed a thief......

I find that the best start is to go with 40 str, 15 int, 10 dex.
Stealing 50, magery 49, whatever you want 1.
I have discovered that the simplest way to gain stealing is to find a friend
who is also making a thief. Join a guild in common with him, so that you can
steal from each other, without being in the thieves guild. Then each take
about 8 bags with 5 individual gold coins in them. The bags weigh in at 6
stones each including the bag. You can macro random stealing on each other in
a house, or in an isolated area if you think that is safe. Seems to gain
fairly quick, about 1 point per hour of doing this. I have not gotten past 70
yet, so I don't know how much it slows down. Oh, also while you are macroing
stealing, dbl click your friends backpack, and then hold down last object
button with something while the steal macro runs, this will gain you tons of
snooping... like gm in about 10 hours. Karma will be at a really low level
after just a few hours of this though, so don't expect people to talk to you
outside of town much. You will get to 100 dex very quickly doing those
skills. I also recomend hiding and stealth for the budding thief, both skills
are very fun to use while being chased for something. You should get both up
above 90. Next, of course you will need str, cuz no good UO character has
less than 90 hp. Recomend, using animal taming, or fishing. Fishing is
really good, cuz it is a dex skill as well, and if you get it really high, you
can get treasure maps while you are not out swiping stuff : )

email me if you have any other questions, or macro needs, I am the macro
master.

Paul

Barry Smith

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Paul wrote:

You should get both up
> above 90. Next, of course you will need str, cuz no good UO character has
> less than 90 hp.

I resent that remark! ;) My Inscriber has only 20 hps and does really
well making Recalls, Marks, and Magic Reflects.... 8p

Richard Cortese

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Shaky <jayf...@home.com> wrote in message
news:WTT33.8514$zB3....@news.rdc1.pa.home.com...

> OK..never having tried one before, and with UOSS hopelessly out of
> date, whats the best starting set up for a theif, and the best ways to
> get the skills up?
>
> I'm thinking of starting one just to see IF I can role play it a bit,
> and to see the reactions of the general player base when I do.
I will disagree with everyone else.

20 str, 35 int, 10 dex, 50 magery, 50 stealing. Do an escort. While you are
doing the escort, just walk vs run while snooping their pack. Rob them in
the wilderness 1/2 way to their destination.

You will end up with 150-800 gold depending on the type of escort and 15-20
snooping, plus a dex or two. Buy a hat for 40 int, recall scroll for spell
book, about 3 mark scrolls, and every gate scroll you can get your hands on.

Always carry an unmarked rune on you and a mark scroll at this stage. Since
you are hanging out in escort areas, everytime mage type cast a gate, JUMP
IN! Eventually you will get to Ocllo, Serpent's Hold, and NuJelm. Cove and
Minoc are two other hard ones to get escorts to, but you can walk to those.

You don't really want to gate the escorts directly to their destinations.
You want to mostly get them off the isles i.e. gate them off Ocllo to the
Yew or Jehlom Moongate, and walk them so you can rob them. If you are in a
hurry after you rob them, then gate them to their destination after you have
picked them clean.

I have tried this on several shards, never had any trouble making enough for
a small house after a single marathon weekend doing it this way.

By the time the weekend is over, you no longer need to buy mark scrolls
since magery is about 60ish, stealing is the same. Int will be high enough
from all the spells so you don't need a hat. Snooping should be pretty high
too, it is a time saver since you will have to start using targetted
stealing after 60ish skill at stealing for it to move it up.

Try to only bank in out of the way places as people around the major cities
will check your perma flagging. Never go to the main Brit bank unless you
have died just before that.

Shaky

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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Hmm..lotsa tips...thanks everyone :)

Money's no object, since I'm rich with my other characters <was a GM
smith before the mass skill gain>. This is mainly a "fun" character
that I'm going to try to roleplay a bit.

Good example, was playing a bit and tried to steal from a NPC in
Vesper...of course I got caught and whacked....so, after I went back
blue and ressed, I ran back to the guards "pouting" and claiming "it
was only a few arrow..I didn't deserve that". Went on in this vein for
a few minutes, with some people actually telling me the guard wouldn't
answer <g>. Finally, with a "Lets see how YOU like it!" I drew my
newbie dagger and attacked the guard <g>.

Ryan T. Kane

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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hehe... I've started a thief character as well primarily to role play
(and hopefully make a few bucks). Last night I snooped someone and he
caught me doing it. When I saw his name was Father Albert, I
proceeded to give him the old "Forgive me father I have sinned" deal.
I think he was a bit confused at first, but then played a long for a
few minutes, while my rantings only got more and more insane--how I
was beaten as a child and how society has turned on me, etc., etc.,.
People would walk in and I'd tell him that I want nothing more than to
go rob him or her. Finally, he just said "I will pray for you my
son. Now I must go mediate". It was really a riot.

Shaky

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Jun 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/1/99
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rtk...@home.com (Ryan T. Kane) wrote:
> Finally, he just said "I will pray for you my
>son. Now I must go mediate". It was really a riot.

hehe..a prime example of how roleplaying can make anything fun, even
being snooped. That guy probably thought you was another jerk thief,
but when you went into the spiel, he played along and actually had
fun, AND I bet he remembers it for awhile...more than he would just
whacking you and walking away <g>.


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